Chris Long calls “clumsy” anthem policy “a dumb move”

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Chris Long and Malcolm Jenkins spoke publicly Tuesday for the first time since the NFL implemented its anthem policy. The Eagles players, among the NFL’s most vocal and socially aware, backed up their statements they posted on social media last week.

“I think it’s a still a bad idea and something that was unnecessary,” Jenkins said Tuesday, via Dave Zangaro of NBC Sports Philadelphia. “But now there’s a media storm the league has kind of brought on itself.”

Long said the move to force players who are on the field to stand during the national anthem was reactionary and has made things “messier.”

“It’s their right, but I think it was a dumb move and I think it was clumsy,” Long said. “I don’t think it was rooted in patriotism. I love this country; I love our vets. The guys protesting love our country and love our vets. I think it was driven by fear of a diminished bottom line, which I already wrote on Twitter. You can see that on Twitter. The underlying factor is they’re afraid of the President. I don’t really need to expound much on that. It’s their right, again, but it’s a clumsy rule.”

Jenkins stopped raising a fist during the anthem after the NFL struck a deal with a coalition of players for the league to pledge $89 million for projects dealing with racial inequality. Jenkins, who heads the Players Coalition, said the progress made from that was lost in the league’s new national anthem policy.

“It’s definitely discouraging because I definitely thought we were moving to a place where players obviously wanted a platform and we could create something that was maybe more effective and bigger,” Jenkins said. “I think there’s been a ton of effort and time put into creating that, but then there’s decision that kind of undermines that. I thought the league genuinely was building that, but then when you start trying to mandate things, it’s less likely to help.”

112 responses to “Chris Long calls “clumsy” anthem policy “a dumb move”

  1. Your employer is free to set policies that do not need to be negotiated through the NFLPA due to the CBA. If you don’t like the policies of your employer, you are free to seek other employment. At the end of the day, you are using their business as a platform for your protest.

  2. The league certainly handled this clumsily because they had made the progress with the $89 million and people weren’t really talking about kneeling anymore. I can’t help but think, however, that the players who are upset now want to kneel over spite, just because they’ve been told they can’t.

  3. “I think it was driven by fear of a diminished bottom line, which I already wrote on Twitter. You can see that on Twitter. The underlying factor is they’re afraid of the President. ”

    It was bottom line not president. If the owners had thought they better protected their bottom line by encouraging kneeling they would have done so. They are far more worried about money than they are about Trump.

  4. Dear Chris Long – Why don’t you set up a meeting with my sisters kids. Their father was killed in the line of duty, protecting this country from the evil scum that exists so you could grow up with a silver spoon in your mouth, then disrespect the flag to make a social justice point for an issue that is largely fabricated by the media. Please explain yourself to these kids that what you’re doing is more important than honoring their father who they did not have the luxury to grow up with, while your daddy was on tv and spent countless hours and money helping you make it to the NFL.

  5. These “protest” do ZERO good for anyone and just create more division.

    If these players said “we will all stand to respect the country that gave us this opportunity and ask the NFL to match the NFLPA $X million donation to police and community training to lessen the chance of violence in encounters between police and young men” this issue goes away and everyone and Society will be better for it.

    Try that because your kneeling protest is a joke that does nothing good for anyone … and, worse still, everyone doing it knows it.

  6. I’m a football fan, that’s all I want to see is the game. Don’t show these idiots. Protest on your own time. Not the owners. If want to do it before the game than bye your own team.

  7. How’s this. If Chris Long or any other player doesn’t like the anthem policy he can quit/resign/retire effective immediately…

    The NFL is his employer. They make the rules. Its just like any other rule stupid (like the new kick-off) or not. He’s free to leave if he doesn’t like any of them. No one is forcing Chris Long to be in the NFL…

    It would be funny though to see Chris Long threaten to hold his breadth until the NFL changes it’s Anthem policy to one he approves of….

  8. Chris long was drafted cause he was Howies son he’s never worked a day in his life dude is mediocre and only still in the league cause he’s “woke”

  9. Malcom wanted something ongoing but either he doesn’t realize or doesn’t care that the majority or at the very least, a substantial amount of paying customers were offended/weren’t down with the action of the protests. There was no way this could continue without the NFL being forced into action to protect their bottom line. The NFL tried to tow the line with the 89 million dollar donation (which was pretty generous) but did not want to take it any further than that due to the fear of alienating a sizeable portion of the fanbase. In the end, the league was forced to decide to either take up the crusade with the protestors or appease the fanbase, which in that case, there is no decision to be made. No fans, no money. I can understand and agree with Long’s comments but disagree with Malcom’s on the progress that was made was all for not. The message did get out there and the league made a substantial contribution to the cause. Now it’s on Jenkins and others to find creative ways and further/continue the message without using the league as a platform.

  10. Some of you all should be ashamed. It’s embarrassing how hateful you anonymous keyboard warriors get in the name of faux-patriotism.

    Long gave his entire salary to charity–which is more than the president ever gave with his own money (do the research before refuting). You’re the same people who want to bash Kaep, but refuse to acknowledge the millions he has given to underprivileged youth and low income communities.

    How much have you all done? Next time you want to spout outward, perhaps grab a mirror and look within instead. It’s sad how gross some of you all have become.

  11. nole53 says:
    May 29, 2018 at 6:33 pm
    Some of you all should be ashamed. It’s embarrassing how hateful you anonymous keyboard warriors get in the name of faux-patriotism.

    Long gave his entire salary to charity–which is more than the president ever gave with his own money (do the research before refuting). You’re the same people who want to bash Kaep, but refuse to acknowledge the millions he has given to underprivileged youth and low income communities.

    How much have you all done? Next time you want to spout outward, perhaps grab a mirror and look within instead. It’s sad how gross some of you all have become.

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    I think its great those players did those things. They don’t need to protest during the national anthem to continue doing them.

  12. They just can’t figure out they’re insulting over half their fan base, and millions more that don’t watch, not to mention making the country look like a bunch of stooges internationally. There are reporters dying to interview them 24/7 but insist on causing a stir. Stupid is as stupid does. They does.

  13. mcconne77:

    So let me ask you this–the fist raised in the air in protest by two African Americans during the olympic ceremony in 1968 has always been hailed as one of the most proud moments in American sports. So what has changed? That was ok—but this is not? And who (other than Fox) decreed that kneeling was unpatriotic? Kneeling is in almost every other way imaginable considered a means of showing respect–in fact, that’s why Kaep initially chose to do it. And why didn’t it bother you that players routinely sat or kneeled during the anthem before this (M. Lynch talked about doing it all the time)? And what is the difference between kneeling and not putting your hand over your heart like Trump often does?

    The hypocrisy is dizzying and impossible to ignore. The only real difference is that a “news” network made propaganda out of it, stirred up the sheep, and suckers bought it. I have talked to countless servicemen and not one (NOT ONE) has had an issue with the players kneeling.

    And while we’re on it–where is the massive outcry of fans over players like Tyreke Hill for beating his pregnant girlfriend? That’s ok–but kneeling is not.

    People have lost all perspective on this.

  14. You really see how bad Trump has turned people into die-hard ideologues. I mean here I am reading a bunch of hate posts directed at Long. The guy gave up his salary to try and do his part to make America great again. Far more than internet critics and those in control in politics are willing to do. This truly is an all-time low.

  15. Let’s go interview every well-known anti-Trumper and print all their comments in countless articles.

  16. nole53 says:
    May 29, 2018 at 6:33 pm

    Some of you all should be ashamed. It’s embarrassing how hateful you anonymous keyboard warriors get in the name of faux-patriotism.

    Long gave his entire salary to charity–which is more than the president ever gave with his own money (do the research before refuting). You’re the same people who want to bash Kaep, but refuse to acknowledge the millions he has given to underprivileged youth and low income communities.

    How much have you all done? Next time you want to spout outward, perhaps grab a mirror and look within instead. It’s sad how gross some of you all have become.

    “In keeping with his campaign pledge, the president donates his salary on a quarterly basis to further important projects. Today, the president is proud to donate his 2018 first-quarter salary to the Department of Veterans Affairs to support their caregiver programs,”
    Acting Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert Wilkie said that the money will go toward “caregiver support in the form of mental health and peer support programs, financial aid, education training, and research.”
    Trump has donated his quarterly salary to various federal departments and projects including to the National Parks Service to restore battlefields, the Department of Education for children’s camps and the Department of Health and Human Services for a public awareness campaign about the dangers of opioid addiction and the Department of Transportation for infrastructure projects.

    During the campaign, Trump repeatedly promised to forgo the $400,000 paycheck.

  17. Long said the move to force players who are on the field to stand during the national anthem was reactionary and has made things “messier.”
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    No, it’s easy. If you don’t want to stand for the symbols of our country stay in the locker room. That’s your work rules and nobody is forcing you to be employed by the NFL.

  18. I think the NFL should simply state “because of the continued disrespect by some players, the National Anthem will NOT be sung or played before games anymore”. OR, as an alternate answer, the singer of the National Anthem should immediately STOP singing if any players don’t remain standing or showing respect. The H*** with them!

  19. Dear NFL,

    I say call the bluff on the racist players who support squatting for the national anthem playing.

    Agree that there is a need for social justice and equality and then fire all black players until you are down to the percentage of blacks in the overall population. And to make it fair, fire the most expensive players first so that you get rid of the 1% and keep those who the most needy.

    Then remind the players that their jobs will be replaced by people with disabilities.

  20. What does it mean to be “socially aware” these days? Does that mean that you refuse to address the real issue of crime in this country? Does it mean that you refuse to address the fact that one group has a MUCH HIGHER incidence of being in contact with Law Enforcement because that group statistically commits FAR MORE crime? Or does being “socially aware” mean that you bury your head in the sand and cry about police brutality every chance you get while ignoring the real issue of crime in the inner cities?

  21. ocdn says:

    Good for you, Chris. The people who haven’t read the constitution won’t agree.
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    “A employee may have a constitutional right to talk politics, but he has no constitutional right to be employed.”

    -Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.
    Former Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States

  22. I would venture to guess that the 80,0000 fans in the stadium and the million of people watching ,tried pulling this stuff on OUR companies time…we would ALL be unemployed. That’s what the players just don’t get.

  23. Does that mean that you refuse to address the real issue of crime in this country?

    Yep

  24. afraid of the president? lol no, they are afraid of losing money, just like all the players are afraid of losing money. kinda funny when uber privileged football players act like they are the poor little guy fighting the system.

  25. I will say this again, protest on your own time, you are employed by a NFL football team owner. If he requires you to stand then you stand. You can also resign from your employment if you so choose.
    Use your own time during the off-season to carry on with your agenda, NOT during the 16 weeks you are employed to participate in a football game that you are paid millions to play.
    Whether you agree with it or not, your employer requires that you stand so you stand. There surely is other jobs you can get if you so choose to quit the one you have now. Only thing is I’m sure your income will not come close to what it is now. Once again… your choice.. make a decision and for the love of god..move past this entire issue once and for all!!!

  26. jam11163 says:
    May 29, 2018 at 6:16 pm
    I’m a football fan, that’s all I want to see is the game. Don’t show these idiots. Protest on your own time. Not the owners. If want to do it before the game than bye your own team.

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    I’m a football fan too. I don’t understand why they even play the national anthem before games. What’s the point? It’s called Nationalism. Funny, it was the same nationalism at the core of Nazi (National Socialism) back then.

    The anthem is purely political, so everyone talking about keeping politics out of football but insisting that everyone respect the anthem are talking out of their sphincters and mouth at the same time.

    Most people are too dense, ignorant, or entrenched in establishment propaganda to even have a clue though.

  27. “It’s their right, but I think it was a dumb move and I think it was clumsy,” Long said.

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    Maybe it was a dumb and clumsy move to kneel in the first place. Do something in the off-season to bring awareness.

    Or

    Retire from football and run for office!Be a man like Pat Tillman and give it all up if you feel that strongly about the cause.

    How many of you players have met with local law enforcement to try and work together?

    Money talks suckas walk

    Remember this every time you kneel you’re disrespecting the legacy and dis-honoring Pat Tillman. Remember!!

  28. So let me ask you this–the fist raised in the air in protest by two African Americans during the olympic ceremony in 1968 has always been hailed as one of the most proud moments in American sports. So what has changed?

    ————-

    In 1968 black people had to use separate bathrooms and got sprayed with fire hoses and had dogs sicked on them when they tried to non violently protest about it.

    Those athletes also were amateurs not being paid by a private organization when they did that.

    I am in no way shape or form saying that racism isn’t a serious issue in this country still , and I am all for people protesting for what they feel is right. But with that said comparing a multimillionaire professional athlete Kneeling in 2018 before driving his Ferrari back to his mansion , and an amateur runner raising his fist in Mexico City in 1968 and heading back to a county where he wasn’t allowed to use the same urinal as a white person are not even comparable .

  29. You are a hero mr long. sorry roseanne, your type is not what most people want america to emulate. couldn’t shut your mouth and now BYE BYE big payday.

  30. The Analytical Kid says:

    I’m a football fan too. I don’t understand why they even play the national anthem before games. What’s the point? It’s called Nationalism. Funny, it was the same nationalism at the core of Nazi (National Socialism) back then.
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    It’s the same nationalism Americans had when we defeated the Nazi’s.

  31. When will Howie’s son and all the other players realize that they are employees not owners. Sad that these millionaire who play a kids game doesn’t had enough sense to understand that.

  32. I think it was clumsy and classless for NFL players to take a knee during the playing of our National Anthem.

  33. I find it maddening l that everyone thinks it’s all about money. If the networks fear that this whole thing is causing people not to buy advertising, which is what drives the television market, then the networks should stop televising the national anthem. If they don’t want people to turn it off don’t show it! It’s really pretty simple. It is aggravating though, to sit here and listen to everyone say “oh it’s all about money” because it isn’t. The league is just using this as an excuse for their ffalling ratings. They might want to try not over officiating the games and not over saturating with Monday night Sunday night and Thursday night football.

  34. nole53 says:
    “The hypocrisy is dizzying and impossible to ignore…I have talked to countless servicemen and not one (NOT ONE) has had an issue with the players..”

    Ummm. Federal Law (Titles 10, 2, and 18, United States Code), Department of Defense (DOD) Directives, and specific military regulations strictly specify a military active duty person’s participation in partisan political activities.

    Soooo, stick with the whole fisting an Olympian thing.

  35. mybigthirdleg says:
    May 29, 2018 at 6:14 pm
    Dear Chris Long – Why don’t you set up a meeting with my sisters kids. Their father was killed in the line of duty, protecting this country from the evil scum that exists so you could grow up with a silver spoon in your mouth, then disrespect the flag to make a social justice point for an issue that is largely fabricated by the media. Please explain yourself to these kids that what you’re doing is more important than honoring their father who they did not have the luxury to grow up with, while your daddy was on tv and spent countless hours and money helping you make it to the NFL.
    —————————
    Condolences for your loss, but, your sister’s husband knew what he signed up for when he took the high-risk position. You trying to make a martyr our of him does not change that fact. I don’t know the circumstances in which he ended up losing his life in the line of duty but it has nothing to do with Chris Long and the way we police people in this country.

    It is an issue and that’s a fact.

  36. Create all the platforms you want as long it doesn’t infringe on my time.
    My time is described as the time between my family and I entering the stadium before the game and leaving the stadium after the game.

  37. This is just such a mind boggling solution to what should be a non story. Firstly, let me say I believe wholeheartedly that all Americans should respect our flag and service people, especially those who have given the supreme sacrifice for our country. Then I will say this…..I have been to many stadiums, pro and non pro, where I have witnessed people buying beer, hot doqs, etc, while our National Anthem is being proudly played. Should we not expect concession stands etc. to respect those few minutes when our glorious anthem is being played? Let us not point fingers if we are in line to grab a beer before kickoff and during the Anthem.

  38. topcide says:
    May 29, 2018 at 7:17 pm
    So let me ask you this–the fist raised in the air in protest by two African Americans during the olympic ceremony in 1968 has always been hailed as one of the most proud moments in American sports. So what has changed?

    ————-

    In 1968 black people had to use separate bathrooms and got sprayed with fire hoses and had dogs sicked on them when they tried to non violently protest about it.

    Those athletes also were amateurs not being paid by a private organization when they did that.

    I am in no way shape or form saying that racism isn’t a serious issue in this country still , and I am all for people protesting for what they feel is right. But with that said comparing a multimillionaire professional athlete Kneeling in 2018 before driving his Ferrari back to his mansion , and an amateur runner raising his fist in Mexico City in 1968 and heading back to a county where he wasn’t allowed to use the same urinal as a white person are not even
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    But you are making a fundamental error in your assessment. Your equating that wealth puts people of color out of the crosshairs of racism. Thats just not the case. You won’t have to go far to find proof. You can ask 4 Star General Colin Powell and untold hundreds of other wealthy Blacks. makes what Colin has done more special IMO.

    #nosettling

  39. So what is the message of kneeling during the anthem? Hatred towards President Trump, Players hatred towards America, Players upset because they lost their starting position, Players being defiant towards authority, etc…..
    Kaepernick’s ridiculous message has been lost and he created a monster from many players who don’t care about their communities. It has become a photo op and a societal challenge for most.

  40. Michael E says:

    May 29, 2018 at 7:03 pm

    ocdn says:

    Good for you, Chris. The people who haven’t read the constitution won’t agree.
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    “A employee may have a constitutional right to talk politics, but he has no constitutional right to be employed.”

    -Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.
    Former Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States
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    West Virginia state board of education VS. Barnette. Justice Robert Jackson (1942) stated a person or persons, do not have to salute,let alone face the flag or stand during the pledge of alligiance or national anthem to protect freedom of expression and religion, as well as the freedom of speech. No were does it say you can’t kneel at anytime or at any public location.

  41. mediasloppy says:
    May 29, 2018 at 6:49 pm
    You really see how bad Trump has turned people into die-hard ideologues. I mean here I am reading a bunch of hate posts directed at Long. The guy gave up his salary to try and do his part to make America great again. Far more than internet critics and those in control in politics are willing to do. This truly is an all-time low.

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    Trump did nothing of the sort, he is a late comer to this issue. This whole thing started during the Obama administration and was boiling long before Donald Trump came along.

  42. Last year Chris Long donated his entire base salary to educational charities. People on this board hailed him as a hero and held him up as a direct contrast to Kaepernik.
    Now he’s pointed out just how foolishly the NFL is behaving, which is contrary to the preferred narrative of the Trump supporting right wingers that populate PFT.
    There is a quote comes to mind:

    “YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH”

    That is all.

  43. The Analytical Kid says:
    May 29, 2018 at 7:14 pm

    I’m a football fan too. I don’t understand why they even play the national anthem before games. What’s the point? It’s called Nationalism. Funny, it was the same nationalism at the core of Nazi (National Socialism) back then.

    The anthem is purely political, so everyone talking about keeping politics out of football but insisting that everyone respect the anthem are talking out of their sphincters and mouth at the same time.

    Most people are too dense, ignorant, or entrenched in establishment propaganda to even have a clue though.
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    Fascists believe in a big centralized government. They are all crony capitalists that are openly hostile to religion. That does sound like a political party in this country but it’s not the one you’re thinking of. Do you know who the person was who called Hitler a National Socialist? Joseph Stalin. Only a communist would think our flag and anthem are political comrade.

  44. Super bowl champion eagles fan here .malcom chris raise that fist this is America just be sure its the with that big old ring on it..FLY EAGLES FLY

  45. ocdn says:
    May 29, 2018 at 8:02 pm
    Michael E says:

    May 29, 2018 at 7:03 pm

    ocdn says:

    Good for you, Chris. The people who haven’t read the constitution won’t agree.
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    “A employee may have a constitutional right to talk politics, but he has no constitutional right to be employed.”

    -Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.
    Former Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States
    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
    West Virginia state board of education VS. Barnette. Justice Robert Jackson (1942) stated a person or persons, do not have to salute,let alone face the flag or stand during the pledge of alligiance or national anthem to protect freedom of expression and religion, as well as the freedom of speech. No were does it say you can’t kneel at anytime or at any public location.

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    It’s not a public location. It is private property or at worst public property being rented by a private enterprise. The public is allowed by the private entity onto the property. The fact that the public is there doesn’t make it a public event.

    Your argument would make more sense for municipal or state sporting events.

  46. Trump did nothing of the sort, he is a late comer to this issue. This whole thing started during the Obama administration and was boiling long before Donald Trump came along.

    Let’s at least be honest hear the issues of say police brutality or unfairness not only against people of color, but the community as a whole has been boiling long before those presidents ever thought of running for president. Police a lot of the time think they are above the law with behavior, no race is untouched by this, instead of getting mad at the politicians why don’t you implement something in law enforcement training to better be able to determine when hostile force should be used. Nobody wants to talk about that, everybody wants to make race, but that’s just like the USA, though the simplest answer is always the furthest from everybody’s mind.

  47. Chris long wrote off last years pay. I think if you look into that “donation” situation you would see that Chris wasn’t as generous as he wants everyone to think…as for the anthem….just stand up for it, stop offending the great men and women in the armed forces… find another way to peacefully get your point across, and stop alienating all cops as racist….this whole protest has created a bigger divide than a solution…don’t become the problem while trying to solve the problem.

  48. “I’m a football fan too. I don’t understand why they even play the national anthem before games. What’s the point? It’s called Nationalism. Funny, it was the same nationalism at the core of Nazi (National Socialism) back then.”
    If we all were like you we’d be singing the German or Japanese National Anthem. If you don’t like this country and our National Anthem the southern border is porous both ways.

  49. mybigthirdleg says:
    May 29, 2018 at 6:14 pm
    Dear Chris Long – Why don’t you set up a meeting with my sisters kids. Their father was killed in the line of duty, protecting this country from the evil scum that exists so you could grow up with a silver spoon in your mouth, then disrespect the flag to make a social justice point for an issue that is largely fabricated by the media. Please explain yourself to these kids that what you’re doing is more important than honoring their father who they did not have the luxury to grow up with, while your daddy was on tv and spent countless hours and money helping you make it to the NFL.
    ————

    Bottom line is most people who served or serve now say they would rather die than take a knee during the national anthem, but would risk their lives to protect others right to do so…stop with the phony patriotism and fake outrage…the very people you say are being “disrespected” don’t share your view…

  50. Youknowimright says:
    May 29, 2018 at 8:56 pm
    Chris long wrote off last years pay. I think if you look into that “donation” situation you would see that Chris wasn’t as generous as he wants everyone to think…

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    The guy donated his entire income to charity. Writing it off only saves him the taxes he would have paid on the income…. So let’s say he would have earned $2M…..he would have had to pay roughly $800k in Federal taxes and take home $1.2M. Instead he donated $2M and took home nothing and payed no taxes.

    Give credit where credit is due

  51. A little more to it than that nhpats…that benefited long quite a bit in the long run…don’t let him fool ya..

  52. Chris donating an entire year’s salary just shows NFL players make too much. I’d have to stay at my job 60 years to bring home as much as he will in 2018 alone.

    Sorry I can’t donate as much as he can.

    I still give when I can, and my contributions along with the millions of others from ordinary Americans are just as significant as Chris Long’s.

  53. Chris Long gave up his entire salary for a year to charity. He deserves the benefit of the doubt. Nothing he said is inaccurate. He didn’t make a big political statement. Even if you oppose the protesting, the NFL has handled this poorly from the start. Long is not wrong about that.

    Have we sunk so low that we can’t even stomach reasonable disagreement without trashing a decent guy with a history of charitable giving? Those of you who disagree with Long are free to express that opinion without debasing yourselves. Seems like none of you have figured that out.

  54. You people who keep saying an employer is free to do with whatever they want , need to pick up a book or two.

    Employers are NOT allowed to do with whatever they want. Kneeling was a very much “allowed” by the NFL until now and some half baked nonsense drawn up in the 11th hour may not hold water if the courts find the NFL acted unilaterally as CBAs are protected by federal law. NFL could very well be found guilty of discrimination and I suspect they’ll settle with Kap and the anthem rule may not hold up if the nflpa had any semblance of a backbone.

  55. dcpatfan says:
    May 29, 2018 at 7:45 pm
    topcide says:
    May 29, 2018 at 7:17 pm
    So let me ask you this–the fist raised in the air in protest by two African Americans during the olympic ceremony in 1968 has always been hailed as one of the most proud moments in American sports. So what has changed?

    ————-

    In 1968 black people had to use separate bathrooms and got sprayed with fire hoses and had dogs sicked on them when they tried to non violently protest about it.

    Those athletes also were amateurs not being paid by a private organization when they did that.

    I am in no way shape or form saying that racism isn’t a serious issue in this country still , and I am all for people protesting for what they feel is right. But with that said comparing a multimillionaire professional athlete Kneeling in 2018 before driving his Ferrari back to his mansion , and an amateur runner raising his fist in Mexico City in 1968 and heading back to a county where he wasn’t allowed to use the same urinal as a white person are not even
    ——————————————————–

    But you are making a fundamental error in your assessment. Your equating that wealth puts people of color out of the crosshairs of racism.

    Interesting juxtaposition with those who would ask how much one makes as compared to an NFL star as if net worth somehow equates to ones position being more or less valid.

    Evidently wealth does not remove whites from the crosshairs of prejudice. In fact it adds fuel to the fire.

  56. Yet here we are, STILL with this notion that people are being FORCED to do something against their will.

    Not so. In ANY WAY, shape or form. Period. Not debatable. End of discussion. So SHUT UP!

  57. Gordon Andrews says:
    May 29, 2018 at 8:55 pm
    Trump did nothing of the sort, he is a late comer to this issue. This whole thing started during the Obama administration and was boiling long before Donald Trump came along.

    Let’s at least be honest hear the issues of say police brutality or unfairness not only against people of color, but the community as a whole has been boiling long before those presidents ever thought of running for president. Police a lot of the time think they are above the law with behavior, no race is untouched by this, instead of getting mad at the politicians why don’t you implement something in law enforcement training to better be able to determine when hostile force should be used. Nobody wants to talk about that, everybody wants to make race, but that’s just like the USA, though the simplest answer is always the furthest from everybody’s mind.
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    You must be kidding me, bub. Do you actually think nobody here has “heard the issues”‘ of police brutality and racism? Do you actually think a couple hundred NFL players taking a knee during the Anthem has done a single thing to fight against either of those things? Or do you perhaps think it has hurt those causes, as the majority of people have found it to be insulting to them on a personal level?

    See, “social justice” is a VERY tricky thing, bub. If you’re going to be a “warrior” in the “cause,” you’d better check that chip on your shoulder, because the MEANS will wind up sacrificing the ENDS every time you cross that fine line between passion and hatred.

    But you don’t care, because ALL should be acceptable in your fight for “the cause.” And yet here WE are, telling you NO. And you can’t handle it.

  58. strummer174 says:
    May 30, 2018 at 1:36 am
    Chris Long gave up his entire salary for a year to charity. He deserves the benefit of the doubt. Nothing he said is inaccurate. He didn’t make a big political statement. Even if you oppose the protesting, the NFL has handled this poorly from the start. Long is not wrong about that.

    Have we sunk so low that we can’t even stomach reasonable disagreement without trashing a decent guy with a history of charitable giving? Those of you who disagree with Long are free to express that opinion without debasing yourselves. Seems like none of you have figured that out.
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    We haven’t sunk nearly that low. We can thrive on reasonable disagreement.

    Saying someone is forcing you to do something when it’s patently and obviously not true isn’t reasonable disagreement. It’s a lie.

    So as soon as someone brings some reasonable disagreement up, we’ll start having a real dialog.

  59. This is the offseason Mr. Long. You are your protesting brethren have ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD to protest yet you aren’t protesting.
    Why?
    Is it because it’s your personal time and you don’t want to use it “protesting”?
    Instead you choose to waste your employers time and distract your team from the game itself that you are paid to play?

    I have yet to see a single NFL player protest using their own time, money, and resources. Same goes for their union.
    So you want to “protest” but not on YOUR time, not on YOUR dime, and not using YOUR resources.
    The message is clear…you want to be paid to “protest”.
    If that truly is the case, well then just join George Soros’ liberal democrat party and you will be paid to “protest” since THAT is your goal.

  60. Chris long was able to have his voice heard… And managed to do so without kneeling during the national anthem and infuriating half of the country. See how darn simple that is. Same goes with any other NFL player. You have something to say, go ahead and say it. Your voices will be heard and you don’t need to infuriate half the country by doing it during the national anthem. The NFL may have been clumsy in their handling of the anthem controversy but that is, in large part, because the players made a mockery of it. Both owners and players deserve blame here. The players , of left to their own free will, would literally cut off their noses to spite their face. The message was completely lost yet they continued to kneel when half the country was up in arms over it. Serious Mr. long, get a clue , you and your fellow players shoulder half of the blame here.

  61. Youknowimright says:
    May 29, 2018 at 10:13 pm
    A little more to it than that nhpats…that benefited long quite a bit in the long run…don’t let him fool ya..

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    Why don’t you take a crack and explain specifically were I am wrong. I presented you the math of how the taxation would work. You have presented…..well nothing….

  62. It’s more than dumb, it’s illegal.
    The Supreme Court says so.

    In 1943, the United State Supreme Court ruled in ‘West Virginia Board of Education v. Barnette’ that government officials cannot force anyone to participate in patriotic rituals, including the Pledge of Allegiance. No public school employee – no teacher, vice principal, coach or superintendent – can legally force you to say the Pledge or stand for the Pledge. They also cannot punish you for refusing to participate.

    “If there is any fixed star in our Constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein.”
    – The Supreme Court of the United States, 1943

    It never ceases to amaze me how many people can stand by and watch our Constitution being shredded, and then cheer as it’s happening. And why? Because it’s punishing somebody they hate. To those people, who’s gonna stand up when it’s happening to you?

  63. Here’s a point to consider: why do you need to have the National Anthem played before football games? Introduce the players and play ball.
    1)It doesn’t affect anyone’s patriotism.
    2)This particular problem goes away.

    Like sheep, we simply accept this portion of a game because, well, it’s tradition. Tradition allows the NFL to also blindly allow one franchise to keep a mascot name that is a horrid slur against Native Americans.

    If the tradition no longer works, out it goes. I’m a proud American and this gesture before a game won’t change that one iota.

  64. harryhodag says:
    May 30, 2018 at 10:15 am
    Here’s a point to consider: why do you need to have the National Anthem played before football games? Introduce the players and play ball.
    1)It doesn’t affect anyone’s patriotism.
    2)This particular problem goes away.

    Like sheep, we simply accept this portion of a game because, well, it’s tradition. Tradition allows the NFL to also blindly allow one franchise to keep a mascot name that is a horrid slur against Native Americans.

    If the tradition no longer works, out it goes. I’m a proud American and this gesture before a game won’t change that one iota.

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    Yes….let’s get rid of everything in society that offends anyone. In fact, let’s take the founding fathers off our paper currency. Maybe we can replace them with let’s say: Oprah, Madonna, Beyonce and Dr. Phil. While we are at it, let’s change the names of any of the States/Lakes/Rivers/Mountains/Streets with the names Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Madison, Adams, Clay, etc. to more contemporary names as well. How about Snoop-Dog, JayZ, Eminem, etc. Would that make you feel better?

  65. mybigthirdleg says:
    May 29, 2018 at 6:14 pm
    Dear Chris Long – Why don’t you set up a meeting with my sisters kids. Their father was killed in the line of duty, protecting this country from the evil scum that exists so you could grow up with a silver spoon in your mouth, then disrespect the flag to make a social justice point for an issue that is largely fabricated by the media. Please explain yourself to these kids that what you’re doing is more important than honoring their father who they did not have the luxury to grow up with, while your daddy was on tv and spent countless hours and money helping you make it to the NFL.

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    “then disrespect the flag to make a social justice point for an issue that is largely fabricated by the media.”

    that is the basis of your stance, regardless of its accuracy. then you used your sisters’ kids as a tool of persuasion. shame on you.

    my father died from complications of injuries he received while in the Army defending our country. I was 8 years old at the time, that was 50 years ago. I have a vivid memory of a huge American flag draped over his casket in church.

    But I also have a few memories of the kind of man he was, not the least of which was his compassion and dedication to help others less fortunate than himself.

    As for myself, I could never kneel during the anthem or in front of the flag, it is just not something that I could do. However I feel pretty confident that my father would have recognized the core problems and his focus would have been on a resolution, that’s just the kind of upstanding guy he was.

  66. FoozieGrooler says:
    May 30, 2018 at 10:02 am
    It’s more than dumb, it’s illegal.
    The Supreme Court says so.

    In 1943, the United State Supreme Court ruled in ‘West Virginia Board of Education v. Barnette’ that government officials cannot force anyone to participate in patriotic rituals, including the Pledge of Allegiance. No public school employee – no teacher, vice principal, coach or superintendent – can legally force you to say the Pledge or stand for the Pledge. They also cannot punish you for refusing to participate.

    “If there is any fixed star in our Constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein.”
    – The Supreme Court of the United States, 1943

    It never ceases to amaze me how many people can stand by and watch our Constitution being shredded, and then cheer as it’s happening. And why? Because it’s punishing somebody they hate. To those people, who’s gonna stand up when it’s happening to you?
    =
    That’s all very nice but when did the NFL become a government entity? Kneelers are on the job. That’s not protected anywhere in the Constitution. It’s not punishing anyone. It’s requiring an employee to comply with job requirements. I have the right to drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes and procreate. Pretty sure I can’t do any of them while on the job and there’s no constitutional protection.

  67. I can understand if the anthem was a PRIVATE anthem of which all employees were required to stand. But…, explain to me how a [PRIVATE] employer has [LEGAL] right to mandate employee behavior concerning a [NATIONAL] anthem?

  68. donth8mecauseimwhite says:

    “..That’s all very nice but when did the NFL become a government entity? Kneelers are on the job. That’s not protected anywhere in the Constitution. It’s not punishing anyone. It’s requiring an employee to comply with job requirements. I have the right to drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes and procreate. Pretty sure I can’t do any of them while on the job and there’s no constitutional protection…”

    I keep hearing that ‘protesting at work’ argument.
    Kentucky clerk Kim Davis not only “protested at work’, but she also denied people their Constitutional rights while she did it – and many of the same people who expressed contempt at Kaepernick for doing so actually cheered when Kim Davis did it.
    Can’t have it both ways.

  69. My guess is that exactly none of the posters citing SCOTUS decisions or the US Constitution is a lawyer or played one on TV. Let’s get this straight immediately. The first amendment of the US Constitution protects free speech from being abridged by the government. And even at that it’s not unfettered….i.e., the old you can’t scream “fire” in a crowded theatre exception. Now employees of private concerns, which is what the NFL is, DO NOT have first amendment protection. Employees cannot verbally denigrate customers, call them names and claim first amendment protection. Secondly employers, which is what the owners are, can set rules of employee conduct, even if those rules may curtail certain constitutional rights. That’s what the anthem policy does…the rule is stand or be fined or stay in the locker room. Players who don’t like the rule can quit. If I own a very high end restaurant, I can require employees among the wait staff to wear tuxes. If employees feel their right to dress as they please is abridged, they can quit. See how easy this is SJWs.

  70. Clumsy or not, the NFL relies on fans for tv viewership and to buy tickets and merchandise. We are the league’s customers and without us there is no league. It seems as though the owners have come to the, in my opinion, correct conclusion that the majority of their customers do not appreciate the players disrespecting the flag in order to ‘raise awareness’ around so called social injustices. The conclusion was therefore to try to rectify this to stop losing customers. It doesn’t take a Stanford MBA to figure this out.

  71. Dear Chris Long.Thanks from a four year Marine.Dear President Trump.Why did you dodge the draft?

  72. silvernblacksabbath says:
    May 30, 2018 at 9:01 am
    Howie, please shut your son up!

    -Raider fan
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    Why, cause you don’t like what he has to say? My guess is if he said something you would agree with you’d be praising him and saying this man get it.

    The fact of the matter is that owners forced players to participate in a political act and when some of the players did the same a wave of faux outrage began.

  73. Just stay in the dressing room. America is not worthy of your respect or your protest.

  74. variant703 says:
    May 30, 2018 at 12:47 pm
    silvernblacksabbath says:
    May 30, 2018 at 9:01 am
    Howie, please shut your son up!

    -Raider fan
    ————
    Why, cause you don’t like what he has to say? My guess is if he said something you would agree with you’d be praising him and saying this man get it.

    The fact of the matter is that owners forced players to participate in a political act and when some of the players did the same a wave of faux outrage began.

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    1. The National Anthem isn’t political.

    2. The outrage is real. There are some things you just can’t touch.

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