Jerry Jones: President made it clear that he wasn’t letting anthem issue go

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The first snippets of testimony have emerged from the depositions taken in the Colin Kaepernick collusion grievance. And it’s becoming even more obvious that the NFL changed its anthem policy at the direct behest of the President.

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, while testifying in the Kaepernick collusion grievance, shared the details of a phone call with the President.

This is a very winning, strong issue for me,” the President told Jones, according to Andrew Beaton of the Wall Street Journal. “Tell everybody, you can’t win this one. This one lifts me.”

The President was right. There was no way to win. Even by giving in.

Per Beaton, the NFL declined comment on the matter, citing the confidentiality that applies to the grievance proceedings. A White House official did not dispute the testimony.

“The majority of the American people agree with the president, love our country, love our flag and believe it should be respected,” the White House official told Beaton. (This ignores the results of the NFL’s secret poll from last year, which showed that people both opposed and supported the protests that have been happening during the anthem. The NFL has chosen, however, to heed only the opinions of those who oppose the protests, possibly because that side reflects the President’s stated viewpoint.)

Beaton also reports that Jones, along with Texans owner Bob McNair and Dolphins owner Stephen Ross, testified that they believed the protests were hurting the NFL financially. Which of course conflicts with recent statements from Falcons owner Arthur Blank, who justified the new contract given to Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan by claiming that league and club revenues are up.

Regardless of whether it’s rooted in fact, owners have chosen to believe that the protests are bad for business, in large part because the President had chosen to continue to stir up his base by chastising the NFL for allowing the protests. Which not only suggests that collusion arising from a mutual desire to placate the President may be influencing the ongoing unemployment of Kaepernick and Eric Reid, but also potentially bolsters the opinion of attorney Mark Geragos that the President may have run afoul of federal law by interfering with private employment decisions for political reasons.

109 responses to “Jerry Jones: President made it clear that he wasn’t letting anthem issue go

  1. The NFL should take a page out of ABC’s playbook ,,don’t tow the company line ,behave or begone !

  2. Jerry Jones could have been a man and told him to mind his own business. For everyone who claims the players kneeling brings politics into sports, well the owners kept politics into sports. End of the day, you have a right to not stand for the anthem because this is a free country. Hence the word free. Up until now there was no rule saying players had to stand. Now that there is a rule, enforce and move the heck on.

  3. Kneeling was a just a symptom of Kaep’s hate for America. You know the Che t-shirts and the pig socks?

  4. (This ignores the results of the NFL’s secret poll from last year, which showed that people both opposed and supported the protests that have been happening during the anthem. The NFL has chosen, however, to heed only the opinions of those who oppose the protests, possibly because that side reflects the President’s stated viewpoint.)
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    That’s because those who oppose the protests represent the majority. There’s no way to make everybody happy, so you go with what’s popular. That’s why people take polls.

  5. Jerry Jones and Donald Trump were both able to dodge the Vietnam draft because of their millionaire daddies. They both need to shut their mouths about what constitutes “loving our country.”

  6. The thing that you have to figure out is what 50% of your customer base are strong enough to stay away from the game. It seems to be the people who are pissed off about the protesting is a higher percentage then those on the protesting side. There is no solution to this problem you just have to figure out where you are going to lose the most money. IT’S A BUSINESS FOLKS not a feel good story. I wonder how many players that make big money are willing to sit out and lose game checks over this issue. I would imagine not many.IT’S A BUSINESS on both sides owners and players.

  7. I am hoping for a reality tv event where Kaepernick has to throw a football twenty yards through a moving tire swing to prove he deserves to be in the NFL. “I am taking my talents to … *clunk* … Canada.”

  8. In my opinion the NFL kowtows to the politicians in order to maintain their antitrust exemption… I think that’s what this boils down to. Keep the target off their back and they can continue to do business as a monopoly.

  9. At this point, it’s really time to revisit anthems at sporting events. I’ve said before, we don’t do it at other paid, large gathering leisure activities. Why is it JUST for sports? Some people don’t even like sports, they might like movies, or plays, or music. When I go to the movies, no anthem. If I go to to the theater, no anthem. I went to some concerts this past weekend, at a festival with multiple stages, not a single anthem was played. Paramore, The Killers, Mike D from the Beastie Boys, Eminem….do we boycott all these acts now because they didn’t “respect the flag” before their performances? Why is it that only sports fans and athletes are subject to this? It makes literally no sense. What is the difference between attending a game or attending a concert? Both are large arena events with tens of thousands of paying customers. Somebody please convince me why this is different, and why it has any place at JUST sporting events? It just seems like a very inappropriate venue. Not everything that happens within America is related to America. You want to play the anthem at government or military events, Memorial and Veteran’s Day ceremonies, etc, knock yourself out, that feels like a much more appropriate venue.

  10. The statement about revenues increasing is correct. The current tv contract was “back loaded” to increase revenues at the end of the contract. Remember the slow cap growth in the beginning of the contract, which was a subject of many posts on this very blog, and well explained?
    Viewership is down approximately 20% over the last two years, for whatever reason. The next tv contract will reflect this in the $$$$ the networks will pay the NFL. That is the fear the owners have in their future bottom line. Successful businessmen try to predict their company’s income five and ten years in advance to govern their long term expenditures. People who have never ran a business often fail to understand this.

  11. Pretty simple stuff – many fans hated the anthem protests and stayed away. Far fewer supported the protests so this represents a net loss.

    This isn’t racism or politics or social awareness and it is certainly not collusion.

    This is arithmetic.

  12. Goodell deserves this mess—if he were truly a great commissioner he would have ended the protesting right at the beginning. Unfortunately for the league the liberal bias of the commissioner led him to believe it was a good thing before it was evident that it was a bad thing for the league.

  13. Would have much more respect for the players had they actually been on the frontlines fighting any injustice they believe has been going on in th country instead of kneeling. Where were the players during the Ferguson riots or Freddie Gray riots in Baltimore? At home watching on TV.

  14. elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
    May 30, 2018 at 10:35 am

    The NFL should take a page out of ABC’s playbook ,,don’t tow the company line ,behave or begone !
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    It’s their company…

  15. Beaton also reports that Jones, along with Texans owner Bob McNair and Dolphins owner Stephen Ross, testified that they believed the protests were hurting the NFL financially. Which of course conflicts with recent statements from Falcons owner Arthur Blank, who justified the new contract given to Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan by claiming that league and club revenues are up.
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    You guys miss the fact that financials CAN be hurt while still increasing. Revenue increased, but not as much as was expected.

  16. Just my opinions:
    The players should have found a better, more constructive way to protest.
    The owners should have addressed this immediately.
    Trump should have kept his opinion to himself.
    The owners should NOT have made a decision because of outside pressure.
    I’m sick of the inter-mingling of sports, politics, and social issues.

  17. So, the POTUS has no idea what the words to the anthem are but this is a strong issue for him? I’ll buy that for a dollar.

  18. It doesn’t get any more American than Football…and that is why its appropriate to play the National Anthem before a game!

  19. Trump and Jones are sadly right that they will appease more people by making a stand against anthem protests. The fact that the majority of football fans choose to remain ignorant to issues that impact African-Americans and other minorities is sad. Please put aside your hair-trigger response that the protests are disrespecting the military, because that is NOT what they are doing. The best thing to do is to do some reading into the discrimination that every person of color faces that you (or I for that matter) cannot even imagine. What the flag means to you is not what it has to mean to everyone. It is not only a symbol of the military, it is a symbol of our country and everything that happens in it. You can choose to continue to honor the flag and the military before each game but please consider that the flag means different things to different people.

  20. These guys have shot themselves in the foot so often on this issue they’ve run out of toes. But instead of stopping they’re having new toes transplanted so they can shoot those off, too.

  21. Sports and politics been hand in hand for a long time. The NFL was a safe place in comparison to a lot of other sports because the average fan doesn’t have the capacity to comprehend the sensitive nature of politics.

  22. @elmerbrownelmerbrown says:

    The NFL should take a page out of ABC’s playbook ,,don’t tow the company line ,behave or begone !
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    Let the Giants go first!

  23. Again, the people claiming to be so personally offended by kneeling cannot articulate a legitimate reason for feeling so offended. That is because none of them can point to how kneeling effects their personal lives in any way.

  24. “Jones, along with Texans owner Bob McNair and Dolphins owner Stephen Ross, testified that they believed the protests were hurting the NFL financially. Which of course conflicts with recent statements from Falcons owner Arthur Blank, who justified the new contract given to Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan by claiming that league and club revenues are up.”

    The author acts as if the two were mutually exclusive – they are not. The league can both be “hurt financially” and have a situation where “revenues are up”. Both can absolutely be true at the same time.

  25. So, here’s the bottom line.

    I support the fight against racial inequality and bigotry.
    I oppose using the national anthem at NFL games as the venue to “address” those issues.

    I’m going to go out on a limb and assert that my views represent the majority of NFL fans.

    As a result, the new policy is consistent with the NFL’s business plan – i.e. seeking a favorable response from its fan base.

    The rest is just jibber-jabber.

  26. Of course he’s not letting it go–the sheep keep buying it! I man it’s not like he has more important issues to deal with (4,600 Puerto Ricans dead) or things he doesn’t want the people to pay attention to (Russia/Manafort/Cohen).

  27. In China and Hong Kong, people who disrespect the flag and/or the national anthem can be prosecuted. I doubt that the Congress would ever pass any similar law nor will the Supreme Court rule that it is constitutional.

  28. That’s because those who oppose the protests represent the majority.
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    I disagree. I think it’s more of a case of: those who oppose the protest spend literally all day every day posting in protest of the protest while the rest of us go on with our lives and work our jobs. That gives the counter protesters the incorrect appearance that the “majority” is opposed to the protest.

    The rest of us have better things to do with out time than sit online all day and night arguing with strangers that will never change their minds.

  29. All this talk about staying away is just that, talk. Remember the Veterans Day boycott last year? No, cuz it was all talk.
    You can see the Trumpsters haven’t gotten the word out that this post is up.
    Once they do, they’ll show up in force. But not right off, because they don’t represent the average fan.

  30. It’s almost been a day since some Eagle player made a comment on how they hate the anthem resolution. I guess it makes sense…they come from a city that’s only real achievements were the first continental Congress took place, signing of Declaration of Independence, and Rocky. But the fact Tony Danza is from there, completely negates the other three.

  31. The President of the free world had to involve himself in something so trivial to finally feel like he succeeded in something during his presidency. Jerry let it happen

  32. my thoughts:

    – I would never kneel during the anthem
    – I don’t automatically interpret others’ kneeling as disrespect. there’s more to it than that.
    – the kneeling did in fact result in the league putting up a lot of money in order for players to help their communities
    – the players should exhaust those funds and look at the results before any more kneeling occurs
    – any players kneeling before those funds are exhausted and results summarized I will view as complaining for the sake of complaining.
    – POTUS and his administration should start working to help solve problems for a change, instead of exacerbating them

  33. If you only read the comments on here, you would think that a majority of people are against the protests. When respectable research, we see that the fans are about evenly split, and the non-fans have a strong majority in favor of the protests.

  34. correctingerrors says:
    “..If you only read the comments on here, you would think that a majority of people are against the protests…”

    What’s even worse, is that many of those who are against the protests are also in favor of tearing up the US Constitution.

  35. Reading the comments on this story and the countless others…..I now realize why I’ve always liked baseball and basketball more than football…..those sports don’t have nearly as many neanderthal fans

  36. So Donny Bone Spurs acknowledged it was not about the flag or the country. It was about him getting a win . This is a pretty good summation of his whole career. The problem is that everybody else-and this includes the fools that support him-has to lose. Every Trump win is a defeat for America

  37. FoozieGrooler says:
    May 30, 2018 at 12:20 pm
    correctingerrors says:
    “..If you only read the comments on here, you would think that a majority of people are against the protests…”

    What’s even worse, is that many of those who are against the protests are also in favor of tearing up the US Constitution.

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    Considering that those in favor of the protesters are trying to assume rights that dont exist (the right to have everyone agree with you and that you would be entitled to be rewarded) while at the same time arguing against the rights of people to have opposing views and the rights of an employer to decide what he is willing to pay for, it does become a valid question exactly who wants to tear up what.

  38. I do Home Healthcare and visits dozens of salt-of-the-earth Americans each week and am frankly surprised at how many feel so strongly about the Anthem protests being wrong and how it turns them completely off from watching NFL football.

  39. FoozieGrooler says:
    May 30, 2018 at 12:20 pm
    correctingerrors says:
    “..If you only read the comments on here, you would think that a majority of people are against the protests…”

    What’s even worse, is that many of those who are against the protests are also in favor of tearing up the US Constitution.

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    Why do you guys keep bringing the Constitution into this discussion? This is not a Constitutional issue. It is an employer/employee issue. Last season the employer allowed these “protests”. This year they have decided to no longer allow such “protests”. The employees have two options. Abide by their employers’ guidelines or seek alternative employment. Why is this hard to understand?

  40. The president has very publicly stated that Kaepernick should not be in the league. Since the owners caved on the anthem policy because of the president, it is not a very big leap to say that there is at least an informal agreement amongst owners not to hire him again.

  41. If you allow players to continue to disrespect our National Anthem and tell me “I don’t understand” on NFL time. Then you are condoning this disrespectful behavior for allowing the players to do it while they are at work and you are paying them. I 100% side with the owners. ABC didn’t break off Rosanne because of some kind of moral stand. They did it because if they hadn’t, sponsors would have pulled their commercials off of the show first, and then been pressured to pull ALL of their advertising off of ALL ABC / Disney programming until they shut her down. The NFL is a business first, a sport second. GET IT ?

  42. elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
    May 30, 2018 at 10:35 am
    The NFL should take a page out of ABC’s playbook ,,don’t tow the company line ,behave or begone !
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Hasn’t ABCs sport division merged with ESPN who just hired Olbermann who sends out childish tweets on the POTUS on a regular basis?

  43. Trump only cares about this issue because the NFL and him have a past. One that the NFL got the better of him. So he is doing everything he can to get a win against them. This has nothing to do with the flag or the protests or whatever else people want to represent it being.

    Trump only cares about himself.

  44. geofferypeterson says:
    May 30, 2018 at 12:38 pm
    The president has very publicly stated that Kaepernick should not be in the league. Since the owners caved on the anthem policy because of the president, it is not a very big leap to say that there is at least an informal agreement amongst owners not to hire him again.

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    Kaepernick was out of a job long before Trump came along. The entire protest issue had grown, people had become divided long before Trump. The question whether Kaepernick was not being picked up by a team because he was being blackballed or just because he stinks started long before Trump. He actually didnt arrive shooting his mouth off until late in the game. Frankly he has made no difference, everything that was after he weighed in was there begore he weighed in. Regardless of how much Trump gets into certain people’s heads he has had little to no bearing on this, just additional noise.

  45. “This is a very winning, strong issue for me,” the President told Jones, according to Andrew Beaton of the Wall Street Journal. “Tell everybody, you can’t win this one. This one lifts me.”
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    That’s the POTUS I know. He could care less about the players or the military. To him, it’s just winning his base…

    The NFL did it for money…

  46. How can any American not want to stand for their flag… move to Mexico then see how that works out.

  47. I’m not a Trump apologist, just a fan of football. Let’s get rid of these asinine ancillary things and get back to football. It was the right call what the NFL did to set the stipulations as they did. Happy 1-week anniversary of the announcement in question.

  48. How come the NBA isn’t getting dumped on? They’ve had an anthem rule for 20 years and the league office even warned teams before the season to make sure all the players stand. Don’t really recall any kind of issue on this scale or article after article about it on PBT. Bottom line is the league(s) are the employer, the players are the employees and have to adhere to the rules. It’s pretty cut and dry, it’s like that with every job.

  49. WOW so now the sports media is creating their own Collusion case against Trump. It is sad to see how a President who stands up for respecting the country’s Flag and National Anthem gets so demonized for it. This just shows how far the Left has negatively impacted the American culture and society as a whole.

  50. The majority of the people opposed to the protesters regularly disrespect the flag by violating the United States flag code, so they have no business pointing any fingers about respecting the flag.

  51. What blows me away is how anyone anywhere could for even a second think that Trump cares about this country, the flag, honor. Everything he has done throughout his life shows the opposite. All you who love him–perhaps need to be reminded he was a NY liberal-as-it-gets guy who never did a single thing in his life that was not self serving.

  52. One verse of America the Beautiful – it’s easier to sing, and (most importantly) shorter.
    The Star Spangled Banner is battered by poor singing and over-singing almost every time it’s played. Maybe it deserves fewer beatings.

  53. So the owners are afraid of the guy who doesn’t know the words to the national anthem and has been photographed alternately placing his left hand or no hand over his heart during it’s recital?
    Does it REALLY take that much courage to point out the hypocrisy of someone making a big deal over something they’ve shown antipathy towards previously? It seems that when it comes to money, some people’s spines become HIGHLY flexible…

  54. Pretty simple stuff – many fans hated the anthem protests and stayed away. Far fewer supported the protests so this represents a net loss.

    This isn’t racism or politics or social awareness and it is certainly not collusion.

    This is arithmetic.
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    This is actually not accurate. It’s not that “far fewer people supported the protests.” It’s that some of those who opposed left, while the protests themselves didn’t bring in or create any new consumers to replace those that were lost.

  55. “but also potentially bolsters the opinion of attorney Mark Geragos that the President may have run afoul of federal law by interfering with private employment decisions for political reasons.”

    Actually the law specifies “partisan” rather than “political”

  56. uncommon1 says:
    May 30, 2018 at 11:13 am
    Just my opinions:
    The players should have found a better, more constructive way to protest.
    The owners should have addressed this immediately.
    Trump should have kept his opinion to himself.
    The owners should NOT have made a decision because of outside pressure.
    I’m sick of the inter-mingling of sports, politics, and social issues.
    ________________________________________________________________________
    Adding one…

    Jerry seems to be a big fan of the NFL’s secret poll.

  57. Jones is just making excuses. Its easier to say Trump pushed them than it is to admit that they could care less about social issues and they only cared about money when they decided how to come down on this. If they thought their bottom line looked better by supporting the protests they would have done that in a heartbeat and not cared one whit what Trump thought about it. Usually they hide behind Goodell for their actions but in this case Trump served that role better.

  58. All you who love him–perhaps need to be reminded he was a NY liberal
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    Trump was a NY liberal when it served him to be a NY liberal. Now what serves him is to be a loud mouthed blow hard. In a couple more years he’ll be something else. I don’t know what that will be (probably a NY liberal) but it’ll be something that serves him at the time.

    He’s a man of fake standards. A con man chameleon who wraps himself in a flag because right now that serves him. The one thing he won’t “serve” is military time when his country called him for service. Then his feet hurt when they served him to hurt.

  59. One note to all the people who say that the NFL is losing money because of it. Sorry, I do not believe your facts are correct. The Carolina Panthers just sold for $2.25B by far the highest price ever. I really don’t believe that Jerry Richardson lost much money in the situation. And clearly, the new owner must believe there is still money to be made. 103.4 million people watched the super bowl – down 7% so I guess only 7% were so offended by Trump’s anthem fiasco that they stayed away. This doesn’t sound like a majority. One last note: forced patriotism is the foundation of Communism and a dictatorship – why do you think Trump wants to make this issue.

  60. This statement:
    “The majority of the American people agree with the president, love our country, love our flag and believe it should be respected,”
    does not ignore a poll that says there are people who support both sides of the issue. It’s a matter of degree.

    Let the pro-kneeling SJW crowd show their dissatisfaction with the NFL’s new stance on this issue by voting with their eyeballs, dollars, and feet, as the silent majority did last year.

    I’m pretty darn sure the NFL has weighed the impact of SJW dissatisfaction vs. silent majority’s dissatisfaction with last year’s kneeling, and decided to do what is in the best interest of their own profit maximization.

  61. “Which of course conflicts with recent statements from Falcons owner Arthur Blank, who justified the new contract given to Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan by claiming that league and club revenues are up.”
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    Didn’t he also drastically drop the prices of food and beverages at the new stadium? These guys aren’t losing money, they just aren’t making as much as they want. Come on, none of these guys are hurting.

  62. There seems to be a disconnect. Yes, if you polled the country evenly, there would be a significant portion of the country that believes that the players have a right to protest our National Anthem – however, they would still be the distinct minority. However, if you polled just ardent NFL fans, I think you would find that the vast majority oppose the players protesting the anthem while in their NFL uniform and “working”. They have other platforms that they could utilize that would make their point, they refused to use those because the anthem protest created such major controversy. But, to me, its the wrong kind of controversy and has done just what I knew it would – cause strife without solution – witch is stupid. If you want most of the country to listen to what you have to say, try not alienating the very people that you want to hear you!

  63. ronrivers says:
    May 30, 2018 at 10:41 am
    Jerry Jones and Donald Trump were both able to dodge the Vietnam draft because of their millionaire daddies. They both need to shut their mouths about what constitutes “loving our country.”

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    +1000

  64. dsmall2013 says:
    May 30, 2018 at 1:51 pm
    One note to all the people who say that the NFL is losing money because of it. Sorry, I do not believe your facts are correct. The Carolina Panthers just sold for $2.25B by far the highest price ever. I really don’t believe that Jerry Richardson lost much money in the situation. And clearly, the new owner must believe there is still money to be made. 103.4 million people watched the super bowl – down 7% so I guess only 7% were so offended by Trump’s anthem fiasco that they stayed away. This doesn’t sound like a majority. One last note: forced patriotism is the foundation of Communism and a dictatorship – why do you think Trump wants to make this issue.

    ——————
    I dont think anyone thinks the NFL is losing money. But they were losing profits which is an entirely different thing. They make tons of money we all know that. But there was still more to be made and to not be getting that is unacceptable to the owners.

  65. So, the NFL owners are just like the rest of the Republican party. They may not agree with Trump, but they know he will just keep flapping him gums, so they do what he wants to appease him and shut him up.

    If that is truly the reason (or a large part of the reason), that is lame. It is just like giving in to the whiny toddler, which is Bad Parenting 101.

  66. I am retired Military and this in no way is a protest about the flag. That is what we fight for; for your right to peacefully protest. This has to do with the treatment of minorities by a small minority of police. Most of the police are fine individuals, but the few that aren’t, tarnish the profession. Protesting is as American as apple pie. Some people just choose to believe something else to make themselves feel like they are more patriotic when they probably wouldn’t answer the call when the time comes.

  67. Great comment tnspectre – and thank you for your sacrifice.

    I happen to love and respect the police and always stand for the anthem with pride.

    But I respect what the players and I have nothing against what they are doing.

    The NFL showed their great jellyfish spine and kowtowed.

    And many ‘chicken hawks’ are lecturing America about Patriotism? Go Figure

  68. Trump is right on this issue. Stand for the flag to show respect to our country. If people think America is so terrible, then why don’t they leave and move somewhere else? It is because we all know this is still the GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!

  69. Trump is right on this issue. Stand for the flag to show respect to our country. If people think America is so terrible, then why don’t they leave and move somewhere else? It is because we all know this is still the GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!

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    But why can’t we make it even better? Did you ever stop to think about that?

  70. Jerry is Trump’s Boy now. It usually works so well for the reputation of people who align with the President. Just ask Sean Spicer, Kellyanne Conway, Rex Tillerson, etc, etc…..

  71. Linda McMahon is on Trump’s team as the head of the Small Business Administration. Last name sound familiar? That’s right, she’s the wife of Vince McMahon. He is rebooting the XFL when the NFL’s CBA runs out in 2020. But I’m sure this is all just a coincidence.

  72. I know it’s a big change for a lot of folks that the President of the United States is sticking up for our flag and anthem. Just think, the person that could have been president has been running around the world bad mouthing the country and it’s citizens. Let that sink in.

  73. There are many social injustices and other serious issues. The effort and desire to address these issues is extremely commendable! However the players are picking the wrong venue. They are hurting themselves in a significant way.
    The players have everyone’s attention and have had it. What they need to correct is where, when & how they focus on these issues.
    It could be a winning effort for everyone involved if the players take their efforts off the field and create a positive plan to address each one. I.E. Players on short commercials (supported by the players union and owners) that speak to every issue. They could do them locally and nationally throughout the season. There is a big win!

  74. elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
    May 30, 2018 at 10:35 am
    The NFL should take a page out of ABC’s playbook ,,don’t tow the company line ,behave or begone !
    ________________________
    Take a gander at late night TV sometime.

  75. “charger383 says:
    May 30, 2018 at 11:25 am
    Football League no longer deserves to have National as part of it’s name”

    Or perhaps Nationalist Football League?

  76. tnspectre says:
    May 30, 2018 at 2:30 pm

    I am retired Military and this in no way is a protest about the flag. That is what we fight for; for your right to peacefully protest. This has to do with the treatment of minorities by a small minority of police. Most of the police are fine individuals, but the few that aren’t, tarnish the profession. Protesting is as American as apple pie. Some people just choose to believe something else to make themselves feel like they are more patriotic when they probably wouldn’t answer the call when the time comes.
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    Thank you for service first off. The rest though and issues with this you fail to state. They are protesting on company time and at work(strike one). They could protest in MANY other ways that didn’t include our flag(strike 2). Have you read/seen most of the examples of those so called police brutalities against minorities? Gun in their hand, running from cops, shooting at cops, etc???(strike 3). I have yet to see or read a single person knock them for protesting. You fail address the real issues here….

  77. It isn’t Roger Goodell who necessarily has a liberal bias. It is the television networks that have the liberal agenda and who control the money that the NFL needs. The television people control the response on this issue and most of the other social issues get itself mucked up into like the Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson matters and the Michael Sam matter.

  78. This may be a short-term win for the owners in that the (present generation of) fans like it. But the sport is already hurting with younger folks, and this just solidifies its reputation as the game of bigots and blowhards. In twenty years, when Madrid-Barcelona exhibition games are the only thing keeping the lights on in Cowboys Stadium, the owners will have nobody to blame but themselves.

  79. swagjag says:
    “..The “I hate big government” crowd doesn’t see the irony in any of this…”

    They’re also the ones saying ‘keep the 1st amendment out of the workplace’, while at the same time saying “let’s 2nd Amendment the schools and arm teachers.”

  80. swagjag says:
    May 30, 2018 at 7:58 pm
    The “I hate big government” crowd doesn’t see the irony in any of this.
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    Did Trump make a law and I missed it? People just aren’t used to getting called out. Better get used to it.

  81. The “I hate big government” crowd doesn’t see the irony in any of this.
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    Exactly. Hey, as long as big government is intruding in private businesses while wearing the cloak of “patriotism”, they are all in for Big Government.

  82. The President’s involvement makes the opposition to Kaep’s protest unconstitutional.

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