58 percent of voters says anthem protesters aren’t unpatriotic

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The NFL has chosen to listen only to those fans who believe protesting during the national anthem isn’t patriotic. Plenty of fans, inexplicably ignored by the NFL, disagree.

According to a new Quinnipiac poll, 58 percent of American voters believe NFL players who protest during the anthem are not unpatriotic. Another 35 percent of American voters believe that they are.

On a separate question, American voters also believe by a 53-43 margin that professional athletes have to right to protest while at work.

That said, deep divisions exist based on party and racial lines.

For example, Democrats support the right to protest via an 82-16 margin. Republicans say there is no right to protest, by a nearly identical split of 81-16.

African-American voters support the right to protest, 85-11. Hispanic voters agree, with a 67-28 margin. White voters believe players don’t have the right to protest, via a narrower gap of 53-43.

And while all American voters support the NFL’s new anthem policy (51-42), all American voters oppose fining teams if players on the field fail to stand for the anthem, by a 51-44 margin.

None of this is surprising, but it underscores the fact that the NFL, for whatever reason, has opted to listen to only one side, with Steelers owner Art Rooney recently claiming that the “vast majority of our fans” oppose players protesting during the anthem.

The NFL’s own secret research contradicted this, and the new Quinnipiac poll does, too. And if the NFL plans to continue to heed only one segment of the fan base while ignoring those who feel differently, those fans eventually may vote with their eyes, ears, and wallets.

164 responses to “58 percent of voters says anthem protesters aren’t unpatriotic

  1. Fake news and 100% BS poll. They are the most unpatriotic people in the USofA. Who was polled? Only the large city inhabitants? Who voted for Hilary? Who hate cops? Not 1 single person I know was polled in this. Non-scentific poll.

  2. Glad I know what “American voters” think. Now show me a poll of what the football fans that essentially have skin in the game in regards to their decision to watch or not. Otherwise, it’s like asking me for my opinion on major league baseball – completely irrelevant.

    (You actually don’t need to, the NFL obviously has this data and reacted accordingly).

  3. It says 58% of American Voters. Not 58% of American NFL Fans. Believe it or not, not all voters are NFL fans. The poll is skewed.

  4. On a separate question, American voters also believe by a 53-43 margin that professional athletes have to right to protest while at work.

    A lot of dumb voters out there apparently. When you are on the company clock you’re supposed to work. Anybody wanting to protest can expect a shovel upside the head as a wake up call to get back to work.

  5. Stop already!! No more polls – to each their own, both ways. Players want to kneel, let them kneel. Owners who don’t want to hire players that kneel shouldn’t have to. It’ll all even itself out… Things have a way of doing that.

  6. cabosan1978 says:
    June 7, 2018 at 2:27 pm
    Fake news and 100% BS poll. They are the most unpatriotic people in the USofA. Who was polled? Only the large city inhabitants? Who voted for Hilary? Who hate cops? Not 1 single person I know was polled in this. Non-scentific poll.

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    Did you ask everyone you know? 😀 😀 😀

  7. Why do all the supporters of the “Draft Dodger-in-Chief” have so much time during the workday to post comments on this website?

  8. Only the sheeple that follow “dear leader” blindly, are bothered by the protest. Most people believe in freedom of speech and expression.

  9. Let us all remember….this all started when Kapernick was benched; he sat. The second game of his benching he knelt and his benching became a social justice movement.

  10. marcsasharc says:

    Did you ask everyone you know? 😀 😀 😀
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    I did – nobody was polled except this one guy who voted for Hillary and doesnt watch football and hates cops.

  11. How about some articles about why the athletes are protesting/kneeling? And articles about what these athletes are doing in addition to kneeling because kneeling and all of the anthem rules are obfuscating the real issues. What tangible things are these athletes doing that will lead to change?

  12. I don’t protest at work, then again my employer doesn’t require me to show my patriotism.

  13. waynefontesismyfather says:
    June 7, 2018 at 2:29 pm

    On a separate question, American voters also believe by a 53-43 margin that professional athletes have to right to protest while at work.

    A lot of dumb voters out there apparently. When you are on the company clock you’re supposed to work. Anybody wanting to protest can expect a shovel upside the head as a wake up call to get back to work.

    ——————

    Stop confusing our work place with theirs. This whole thing is the result of 32 stubborn billionaires that don’t want to give up pennies to save millions by avoiding this horrible PR.

  14. This is from the same polling company that had Hillary Clinton winning the presidency.

    The drop in viewership is the only poll you need to know.

  15. cabosan1978 says:
    June 7, 2018 at 2:27 pm
    Fake news and 100% BS poll. They are the most unpatriotic people in the USofA. Who was polled? Only the large city inhabitants? Who voted for Hilary? Who hate cops? Not 1 single person I know was polled in this. Non-scentific poll.
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    Someone has been programmed pretty good by their daddy Trump. It’s a free country, love it or leave it whiny pants. Why dont you swim back to Europe with an angry white man under each arm??? signed–a normal white male American who is not frightened of other people speaking up about police brutality and using a kneel down to drive the conversation.

    It really does make me wonder if these folks realize who dumb they are using the same tired talking points they (and we) heard from a tiny few sources.

  16. American voters? What does that even mean? Are these ‘Americans’ legal and are they actually registered to vote?

    A more credible poll is of of actual registered voters. But you got upset for being called out on your last post citing polls of non-voters so you felt compelled to post this using ‘American voters’.

  17. Silly polls.

    The first one is subjective, and not really to the point. I don’t consider those who protest to be “unpatriotic,” I just think its the wrong time and place for a protest.

    The second poll asks a question that is not a matter of perspective. There is actually a correct answer: they don’t have a legal right to protest during the anthem.

  18. So funny seeing people say they dont believe the poll. Because they were wrong about Hillary? Pundits were wrong about Hillary. The polls said Hillary would win the popular vote by a margin of 2% to 5%, and she won the popular vote by 3%. She still lost which has nothing to do with the science of polling. The gap in this info is whether the people polled were nfl fans.

  19. Oh joy… tons of comments from butthurt folks who promised to leave the game months ago.

  20. If you can’t find a poll to support your argument / position you’re not looking very hard and if you can’t massage the numbers in your favor I have a bridge to sell you…

    The polling industry is a joke!

  21. richndc says:
    June 7, 2018 at 2:41 pm

    cabosan1978 says:
    June 7, 2018 at 2:27 pm
    Fake news and 100% BS poll. They are the most unpatriotic people in the USofA. Who was polled? Only the large city inhabitants? Who voted for Hilary? Who hate cops? Not 1 single person I know was polled in this. Non-scentific poll.
    —————
    Someone has been programmed pretty good by their daddy Trump. It’s a free country, love it or leave it whiny pants. Why dont you swim back to Europe with an angry white man under each arm??? signed–a normal white male American who is not frightened of other people speaking up about police brutality and using a kneel down to drive the conversation.

    It really does make me wonder if these folks realize who dumb they are using the same tired talking points they (and we) heard from a tiny few sources.
    ______________________________________________________________________

    You do understand that Republicans AND Democrats push the same talking points, right? I love how people from both sides of this fail to realize that EACH side is doing the same thing. The only difference is the opinion. The same low, shady tactics are used by both sides. BOTH Democrats and Republicans are just as much a cancer to our society as the other.

    It makes me wonder how dumb people like you really are in your ignorance about what is really going on right in front of your eyes but fail to actually see the real problem simply because you agree with one side over the other.

    Wake up everybody!

  22. Kneeling for the anthem does absolutely nothing for the causes these so called protestors claim to be championing. Maybe they should get out into their respective community it is and make a genuine effort to impact people’s lives.

  23. metalup666 says:
    June 7, 2018 at 2:41 pm

    “These must be the same polls that had Hillary winning the election”

    Didn’t she win the popular vote? Asking for a friend.
    ***************************************************************************
    A little civics lessson: We elect our President and Vice-President in this Republic by a system called the electorial college. We aren’t a democracy.
    There, fixed that for you.

  24. richndc says:

    Someone has been programmed pretty good by their daddy Trump.
    _____________________________
    I actually voted for Obama on the first go round but when i saw all of the looting and rioting that Obama couldnt reel in – i thought the guy couldnt handle the job and switched over to Republican. Democrats are a scary bunch. They dont really like illegal immigrants – they just like illegal immigrants money.

  25. Forced patriotism is called fascism. If you’re against protest you’re basically the most unpatriotic that an American can be.

  26. The 58% (of voters) quotient doesn’t bode well for chances that Trump will serve out a full term. BS like this anthem game he’s playing is his entire strategy. His base isn’t big enough to support this level of stupidity forever.

  27. And the anthem zealots still have not articulated any reason for being personally offended by the protest. They’ve certainly never said that they are offended by people milling around stadium concourses during the anthem.

    Most of these closet bigots have adopted the “no workplace protest” mantra. Why do they care what someone else does at that person’s workplace? What possible business is it of theirs what goes on in any workplace other than their own?

  28. metalup666 says:
    June 7, 2018 at 2:41 pm

    “These must be the same polls that had Hillary winning the election”

    Didn’t she win the popular vote? Asking for a friend.
    ——————

    That’s what they say. She still lost the election, though. Welcome to the Republic.

  29. If you are disrespectful enough to kneel during our national anthem to protest ANY subject… you are unpatriotic! Period!!!

    Next dumb statement anyone?

  30. “Fake news and 100% BS poll. They are the most unpatriotic people in the USofA. Who was polled? Only the large city inhabitants? Who voted for Hilary? Who hate cops? Not 1 single person I know was polled in this. Non-scentific poll.”
    __________

    Bahahahahahaaaaa!!! You sound like a CHILD throwing a tantrum. Not a single person that Joe Blow knows was interviewed…INVALID POLL!!! SMDH…mf’er is your legal name “Census Bureau”?? FOH…you know like 6 ppl total and they are all your relatives frm the trailer farm.

  31. @wartface:

    The president handled your request for “dumb” statements when he called POW McCain a loser and disrespected gold star families.

    These are not the actions/statements of a patriot, let alone President of the United States.

    PERIOD.

  32. This entire article is flawed, as the NFL owners care only about the segment of the population that are football fans. Florio uses irrelevant data to dispute Rooney’s comments and then lamely references the NFL’s internal data that isn’t out for public consumption. Rooney states that the majority of the NFL fan’s are against the protests, he is an owner and has access to their internal data. Florio does a false equation of the general population to dispute this because his result aligns with his opinion. Point out one objective and unbiased article published by Florio on this subject, wherein he isn’t manipulating the information to support his opinion. But for the sake of argument you take the general population polling results – 58% of American voters are against the protests (more than half) and 35% support them (about a third); presumably 7% don’t care, have an opinion or are swayed by this subject. By default those 7 percent go into the basket of not hurting the NFL for taking action against the protests, so now that is 65% of voters who won’t potentially walk away from your business versus 35% that MIGHT. Well any business person is going to have a pretty easy decision based on those number.

  33. metalup666 says:
    June 7, 2018 at 2:41 pm

    “These must be the same polls that had Hillary winning the election”

    Didn’t she win the popular vote? Asking for a friend.

    ———

    Yeah and the Pats rolled up more yards in last season’s SB. So what?

  34. Funny how you quote this poll as legitimate, but went off the rails at the poll the Washington Times did of 500 Native Americans who 92% said “REDSKINS” wasn’t offensive to them.

    Nice level playing field here…..

  35. MSN poll disagrees and wasn’t even close with a lot people responding. So, keep furthering a false narrative.

  36. Meanwhile, 42% of the population believe that a forced show of “patriotism” is meaningful, that all cops are great and treat everyone equally, and that a dictatorship would really be better than a democracy. Really, these people would be much better off in Russia.

  37. briang123 says:
    June 7, 2018 at 2:38 pm
    Polls are always accurate. Just ask President Hillary Clinton

    ***

    Well, she did win the popular vote by about 3.5%…

  38. What a surprise that progressive “citizens of the world” think it is fine to protest one’s own flag. This is why you lost.

  39. Considering the source of the poll, I’m not surprised. Quinnipiac is laughably inaccurate. Perfect example of a poll made to generate news.

  40. moltensteelgumbo7 says:
    FOH…you know like 6 ppl total and they are all your relatives frm the trailer farm.
    ————————————–
    A response doesnt get more liberal than this. Do you realize most of your illegal immigrants from Mexico work on a farm and many live in trailers? I know from experieince. Or do you just like to pick on people who dont share your opinion?

  41. can the nfl survive on 58% revenue? yes. but those owners are so greedy theyre gonna mess the whole thing up tryna have they cake and EAT it TOO

  42. Considering POTUS doesn’t even know the words to America the Beautiful, his complaints about the Star Spangled Banner are pretty hilarious. But I’m guessing he and Jeff Sessions love verse three:

    No refuge could save the hireling and slave
    From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
    And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
    O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave

    Hooray for Francis Scott Key’s support of slavery!

  43. What “people” think is completely irrelevant! what matters is what NFL game attendees who spend their $ at NFL stadiums think (empty seats = lost revenue) and what NFL viewers think (lower ratings = lower commercial revenue).

    If both sides were smart (and that’s highly questionable on both sides), they’d find a way to work together to increase the NFL brand popularity so that both sides have more dollars to share.

  44. So, some that post on this site believe only football fans are allowed to have an opinion about the player protest (it’s not an ANTHEM protest!). Last I checked we are all allowed to voice our opinion…I think the point here is that the owners got played by the president. Too, I think that this recent poll likely represents a potential change of thinking for some after the Eagles were uninvited to the White House. Me thinks Trump overplayed his hand on this one…by the way, the polls never said Trump had no chance to win the election.

  45. So you’re telling me 1/3 of your fan base is upset at this?? Surprised ratings are down ONLY 20% over the last 2 years.

  46. whodatalien says:
    June 7, 2018 at 3:10 pm
    can the nfl survive on 58% revenue? yes. but those owners are so greedy theyre gonna mess the whole thing up tryna have they cake and EAT it TOO

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    They already changed the rule.

  47. wartface says:
    June 7, 2018 at 2:53 pm
    If you are disrespectful enough to kneel during our national anthem to protest ANY subject… you are unpatriotic! Period!!!
    Next dumb statement anyone?

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    If most of the people disagree with you are you still right?

  48. 100% of the people who no longer to make time to watch the National Protest League have a different opinion and that’s the vote that matters.

  49. hobiecat1 says:
    June 7, 2018 at 2:27 pm
    It says 58% of American Voters. Not 58% of American NFL Fans. Believe it or not, not all voters are NFL fans. The poll is skewed.

    ————-

    I don’t think it’s too skewed… Most of the fans have stayed with the NFL.

  50. Let them protest anyway they want, I am wore out with spoiled millionaires. They win take it to the next level and burn the flag after the game before getting on the team buses!…..

  51. This is why the NFL is going to see another year of declining viewership. These athletes have more than half a year to be as social-political as they want. When it is time for football, we want to watch football, not some divisive side show.

  52. Whoever thought that one day America would be run by an idiot and people would blindly follow. Amazing.

    And for those of you who in post after post keep saying these athletes do nothing in their communities, are just a bunch of whiny rich men and are too dumb to know what they’re protesting about look up “nfl player charity” on Google and see the pages of player started charities and hospital work and kids help and yes veterans groups supported by these guys. Before you say it , yes most were started before this entire mess we’re in. I’d bet a month’s income that they do far more percentage wise then any of you big mouth haters.

  53. Despite your day to day actions, does going to Church on Sunday make you a better human being than those who choose to not to?

  54. @waynefontesismyfather says – “When you are on the company clock you’re supposed to work. Anybody wanting to protest can expect a shovel upside the head as a wake up call to get back to work”.

    Wow wayne, are you the universal boss? Stick to worrying about your own workplace. Stay out of other people’s workplaces and business affairs.

  55. I’m not sure whether or not you believe these kneelers are “patriotic” really says anything. I don’t question their patriotism, I’m just flat-out annoyed by the act, period. Frankly, I’m more annoyed by how much effort the media spends to defend it. I’m annoyed that it is largely an act of defiance against the President at this point and the original purpose has lost all meaning.

    How about you poll people who are actual customers of the NFL with the question: Does the anthem kneeling issue (regardless of your stance on it) degrade your enjoyment of the NFL?

    The answer almost unanimously is yes, whether you support them or not. The vast majority of people are tired of reading about it.

  56. weepingjebus says:
    June 7, 2018 at 3:04 pm
    What a surprise that progressive “citizens of the world” think it is fine to protest one’s own flag. This is why you lost.

    ————
    In the Phillipines they had proposed a law where people had to sing the anthem with emotion and stand with the appropriate salute facing the flag or it would be considered a crime.

    Would you consider that going too far?

    Part of what makes the US great is the freedom that people have. If you start taking it away it’s a slippery slope as there will always be a line that can be crossed that will affect everyone, meaning both the left and right leaning folks.

  57. In a way I wish they wouldn’t have made the rule. That way the Media would keep pushing the false narrative. The NFL would keep losing fans, they would keep losing revenue, the salary cap would start to go down and then the players would have to start accepting smaller contracts. I’m positive the players would all of a sudden stop caring about social justice nonsense and get back to playing football!

  58. cheetasnevaprospa says
    Only ignorant snowflakes think that expressing your First Amendment freedoms is unnpatriotic.
    ——————————————————
    Protesting at work isn’t a First Amendment right.

  59. bannedfromchoirpractice says:
    June 7, 2018 at 2:52 pm
    The 58% (of voters) quotient doesn’t bode well for chances that Trump will serve out a full term. BS like this anthem game he’s playing is his entire strategy. His base isn’t big enough to support this level of stupidity forever.

    ———-

    Finish his term? The guy has 6 1/2 more years. Hunker down and get used to it.

  60. miamitrish says:
    June 7, 2018 at 3:22 pm
    Let them protest anyway they want, I am wore out with spoiled millionaires. They win take it to the next level and burn the flag after the game before getting on the team buses!…..

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    bigbaldpapahawk says:
    June 7, 2018 at 3:22 pm
    This is why the NFL is going to see another year of declining viewership. These athletes have more than half a year to be as social-political as they want. When it is time for football, we want to watch football, not some divisive side show.

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    hawkforlife says:
    June 7, 2018 at 3:22 pm
    Whoever thought that one day America would be run by an idiot and people would blindly follow. Amazing.

    And for those of you who in post after post keep saying these athletes do nothing in their communities, are just a bunch of whiny rich men and are too dumb to know what they’re protesting about look up “nfl player charity” on Google and see the pages of player started charities and hospital work and kids help and yes veterans groups supported by these guys. Before you say it , yes most were started before this entire mess we’re in. I’d bet a month’s income that they do far more percentage wise then any of you big mouth haters._——————————the charity you speak of has nothing to do with these so called protests. If you are worried about police brutality them get out in the streets and be proactive with the police in your community. Do ride alongs….practice unity and healing….not division and hate.

  61. I think football fans populate the demographic supporting the minority opinion in the poll. I don’t have a well set up poll like the Quinnipiac study but I think (from purely anecdotal experience) that a slight majority of football fans feel the protests are unpatriotic. I think a greater percentage of football fans misidentify the reason for the protests (again just anecdotal experience) and that they are less sympathetic to the cause of the protests. I personally think social injustice is the legitimate reason for the protests and I also think there should be protests to try to fix it. I am convinced that there are less controversial ways to protest and that greater sympathy could be generated for social injustice if different methods are chosen. Social change is difficult to implement and takes time. There is no blueprint for how to do it and past solutions and methods don’t always work in current situations. I wish that kneeling for the anthem didn’t occur, I wish even more that it didn’t have to. I hold no ill will toward folks that don’t agree.

  62. this is like asking people who don’t watch the NBA, if they think its boring, HELL YEAH IT IS

  63. Does ANYONE believe that if a white NFL player were to “protest” Obama not standing behind law enforcement officers by kneeling for the National Anthem it would have garnered 1/1,000,000th the attention of this ill-advised, wrong venued, protest?

  64. kcflake says:
    June 7, 2018 at 2:28 pm
    These must be the same polls that had Hillary winning the election.
    ———————————————–

    Many, many polls weren’t very far off the final results. RPC had Clinton winning the popular vote by 3%. Bloomberg had her by 3%. IBD/TIPP 1%. ABC 3%. Fox News 4%. She ended up with 2.1% more votes than Trump. So the polls really were quite accurate.

  65. metalup666 says:
    June 7, 2018 at 2:41 pm
    “These must be the same polls that had Hillary winning the election”

    Didn’t she win the popular vote? Asking for a friend.
    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – — – – – – – – –

    My friend want’s to know….do we elect people by popular vote for president? Or do we have an electoral college to insure cities alone don’t decide the outcome. He said the map sure looks mostly red if you look at a map of the U.S. by county. My other friend would like to know if polls have been wrong before, cause it seems like lately according to him that the weather people are more accurate.

  66. NFL players are paid per game. The game doesn’t start until kickoff, so technically, the players are still on their own time during the pseudo-patriotic pregame ceremonies.

    Something tells me that the people who are offended by the kneeling are probably the same ones who yell and cheer over the final two lines of the song. Those people really should shut up.

    The kneeling was never about the flag. Trump made it about the flag as a way to feed his childish ego and ignore the real problem, which is racial injustice.

    I’m a white woman who didn’t vote for either Trump or Hillary, if you’re curious.

  67. Maybe if you boys just kneel and drop the gun when the cops show up, we wouldn’t have this problem and everybody could stand up for the Anthem…

  68. Do you know how many people were polled? The poll surveyed 1,223 self-identified registered voters over the phone from May 31-June 5. It has a margin of error of 3.4 percentage points.

    The MSN poll had hundreds of thousands of people respond.

  69. The ONLY poll that’s not propaganda is the one held in a secure election. EVERY other “Poll” involves targeted demographics, with pre-known political leanings. In other words, they ALWAYS get the results they are seeking. It’s just a question of who is paying for the Poll…and in this case, it’s progressive liberal political activists who promote Anti-Americanism.

  70. Wonder how long it will take before those who support kneeling start calling the ones who don’t support kneeling as ‘racists.’ You know, because it always helps to resolve conflicts when you label others.

  71. bbb82 says:
    June 7, 2018 at 3:40 pm

    kcflake says:
    June 7, 2018 at 2:28 pm
    These must be the same polls that had Hillary winning the election.
    ———————————————–

    Many, many polls weren’t very far off the final results. RPC had Clinton winning the popular vote by 3%. Bloomberg had her by 3%. IBD/TIPP 1%. ABC 3%. Fox News 4%. She ended up with 2.1% more votes than Trump. So the polls really were quite accurate.

    ———————————————
    The polls were dead wrong. The Electoral College decides the President because our forefathers could predict that states would become Commiefornia and New York and didn’t want their hard work thrown away by the most populated areas. No poll had Trump winning. Not a single one. Polls are not representative of any majority in the United States.

  72. dkcjb says:
    June 7, 2018 at 3:47 pm
    Maybe if you boys just kneel and drop the gun when the cops show up, we wouldn’t have this problem and everybody could stand up for the Anthem…
    ——————–

    What about when they don’t have a gun to drop?

  73. Spoken like a lawyer and not a journalist.
    You are inserting words into many peoples mouths in multiple locations of this blog.

  74. This whole patriotic garbage was exactly what our forefathers didn’t want our country to become. It makes you a slave to the government and limits free thinking. If you love freedom and liberty the first thing you need to do is dump the country worshiping.

  75. Forced patriotism? Fascism? Get a grip.. Just because you’re butthurt about who’s president doesn’t mean it’s 1930’s Germany or Russia or any other Socialist utopia. Perhaps try North Korea or Somalia. Anthem zealots? Krap made the issue, no one choose it, now it’s interesting to unmask the ingrates. And for the uninitiated, workplace mantra is Biz 101.. Simply said when your employees (kneelers) drive your customers (nfl fans) away, you either fire or change employee behavior or you have no business. There ya go, understand now?

  76. About as unpatriotic as skipping out on Vietnam 5X’s for none Spurs! When your country calls, sorry Uncle Sam I’m on light duty for Bone Spurs!

  77. bluefalcon70 says:
    June 7, 2018 at 3:53 pm

    Wonder how long it will take before those who support kneeling start calling the ones who don’t support kneeling as ‘racists.’ You know, because it always helps to resolve conflicts when you label others.
    ===============

    About 6 months ago… lol

  78. Australia has this really cool holiday, called Australia Day. They celebrate Australia Day by spending the day doing whatever they want, whatever they love doing.

    Why do I bring this up? Because they don’t prescribe any one way to be Australian. They have no traditions to adhere to. Basically it is a celebration of pure freedom, which is wholly based in an understanding that how you show love for your country is a purely individual choice, if you believe in true freedom.

    So please, everyone, stop trying to define patriotism or what it means to be American. I support the protesters 100%, but I also understand the feelings of the people who find it offensive. For myself, I don’t want any of you telling me what I MUST think about this issue.

    I celebrate my love for America by living in a place (China) where simply being American gets me more work/opportunity/pay than someone from any other country with equal credentials/education gets.
    And in my free time, I go out to bars and events and, upon hearing anything bad about America or even about the President I loathe, I tell them they can thank America for just about every thing they use in their daily lives. When people ask me where I’m from, I just say “Seattle,” which greatly irks most other Westerners (they hate the arrogance of assuming everyone knows all the names of American cities, and expect to hear nation of origin first).
    I own 5 USA or flag-themed shirts, and FOUR different t-shirts from New Hampshire, because they bear their motto of Live Free or Die, and I wear all of them on regular rotation here in Shanghai.
    I absolutely love my country, and though we are in trying times, I believe our American Greatness and the political system which upholds it will prevail over any men or women who would try to bend our laws or our principles to their own nefarious purposes. ALL THE GODS BLESSED AMERICA, AND CONTINUE TO DO SO EVERY DAY 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  79. poll Nov 2016. refusing to stand different than unpatriotic

    Despite a 4-1 approval among black adults, all American adults disapprove 54 – 38 percent of athletes refusing to stand during the National Anthem in protest of perceived police violence against the black community, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today.

  80. “What about when they don’t have a gun to drop?”

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    ….. and out of the hundreds of thousands of time the Police have encounters with suspects every year in the United States, what percentage is estimated as not “have(ing) a gun to drop”? Propaganda is the most powerful weapon in the world, just the fact that people have been steered to believing that this is a rampant problem. prove how easy it is to manipulate people.

  81. “What about when they don’t have a gun to drop?”

    Statistics say shoot those boys anyway.

  82. You B. Crazy says:

    The polls were dead wrong. The Electoral College decides the President because our forefathers could predict that states would become Commiefornia and New York and didn’t want their hard work thrown away by the most populated areas. No poll had Trump winning. Not a single one. Polls are not representative of any majority in the United States.
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    We all understand this, but the point (that you missed) is that the polls didn’t predict the electoral college. They predicted popular vote. And on that, they were pretty much spot on.

  83. So Americans are in favor of the protest. A much smaller pool of population, NFL fans, are not in favor. This helps restores my faith in Americans

  84. They should simply cease playing/singing the National Anthem. If they don’t show respect, then discontinue it.

  85. give me a break
    who the hell cares
    lets get on with football, great games, good refereeing
    personally, I leave it to the individual
    I understand why they feel they need to but I wish they could find another venue
    I will not condemn them for it, racism must be confronted at all times and never be allowed to rear its ugly head.
    this is what equality is all about

  86. The left has, for years, been using polls to influence opinion rather than reflect it. This poll is from a skewed sample undoubtedly.

    And for all you leftists who keep calling people who are offended by the kneeling – You do realize that the whole safe space /microaggression / snowflake stuff is a product of American liberalism right? If you don’t you’re blind.

  87. The polls also said Trump would lose in a landslide. You believe what you want to believe. I’m just grateful Hillary isn’t the president.

  88. “Popular Vote”? Is that defined in the same section of the US Constitution as the “Unicorn Vote”? Please try reading the document once a year, and maybe even the Federalist Papers, and you won’t get caught basing your arguments on fictional terms. Just a friendly suggestion…

  89. OK, even if the polls were right, Thats 42% that agree. If my business lost 42% of revenue i would be broke in a month. Until the pockets of the players and the teams become dry no one will learn

  90. I get why the Government would be upset with players protesting during a ceremony they bought and paid for. If the league receives millions from tax payers in return for promotion of the military I think the US should get it. If the NFL can’t deliver the product they sold they should go back to pre 2009 policy and have players hit the field after the ditty. Obviously protests bother a portion of the population (no matter what the percentage may be) and these folks pay taxes. Keep the players inside and allow those who wish to watch the flag raise and sing for 40 seconds have at it.

    I also think the flag should be raised on a pole while the anthem plays, not just sit on top of the pole or be held like a gigantic beach blanket on the field which is crass.

  91. Anyone who buys into the jive that these players are “not patriotic” must necessarily also buy into George Carlin’s observation that the used car dealer who flies the gigantic American flag must be the most patriotic guy in town.

  92. @cabosan1978

    So the poll isn’t scientific because you asked people you know what they thought? Okay, bud. You’re like the people who go on 538 and scream that Silver knows nothing because he gave a 30% chance of a Trump win. Ask the Falcons about their 99% chance of winning the Super Bowl.

    You’re commenting on a topic about which you don’t even understand the basics. And you’re upset that people in the media call you ignorant because you voted for Trump? Maybe you should stop blaming the media and fix your ignorance.

    Oh, and you didn’t vote for Obama in 2012 because of looting?

    To everyone else:

    1.) to all those screaming electoral college! The polls referred to are polls of the national electorate. The electoral college argument would only apply to polls of individual states.

    The national polls were accurate, especially in the aggregate.

    Stop reveling in your ignorance.

    2.) to those who say no one has the right to protest at work. Please stop comparing a 9-5 job with a professional sports job. It’s not even apples to oranges. It’s more like radishes to potato chips.

    3.) if you support police who behave as if they are above the law or treat citizens like an occupied population, you are not a conservative. Conservatives are for less government authority, not power exercised according to the whims of individual cops and their bosses.

    4.) if you voted for Trump because you felt he spoke for the blue collar voter, I can’t put this delicately, so… You’re an absolute moron to think a trust fund baby who used his daddy’s wealth to skip the draft and buy his way into b school at Penn has your best interests at heart.

  93. I DONT BELIEVE THEYRE UNPATRIOTIC THEYRE JUST SELFISH CRYBABIES. THEY DONT CARE THAT THE ANTHEM IS A TRIBUTE TO SODIERS THAT SACRIFIED THEIR LIVES AND MANY LOST THEIR KIVES DEFENDING OLD GLORY. IF A MOMENT IS TOO MUCH TO PAY TRIBUTE MAYBE THEY SHOULD FIND ANOTHER LIVELYHOOD THAT CONDONES THEIR ISSUES !!!

  94. Seems to me that this should be a business decision as in not trying to tick off any of your fans and/or potential fans. There was a time when discussing politics and religion at work was a definite No NO for just this reason and employers would gladly show you the door if you started costing them one customer.

    As to me, well I used to attend a couple of games per year but not so much now. Between the all of the expense in addition to the cost of the tickets, games that take longer and longer so they can have TV breaks and now having politics invade my free time I have just walked away for the most part. Maybe if they speed up the game, make concession stand prices not akin to financial rape and leave the politics out of the game, maybe I will come back.

    On the other hand with two new leagues arriving in the next couple of years, perhaps they will be more fan centric and less greed and player centric.

  95. “For example, Democrats support the right to protest via an 82-16 margin. Republicans say there is no right to protest, by a nearly identical split of 81-16.“

    To me that simply says the members of one party have actually read and understood the first amendment and the members of one party have not.

    Apparently the polling company (and an 82-16 margin of people) thought that what the constitution says is just an opinion one forms and not something you actually go look up and read to find out. In other news 82-16 people feel stronly that 2+2=5. Another 16 wishes 2+2=5 but they realize it actually equals 4.

  96. This polls means nothing. The poll should only include football fans, not feminists and others who oppose the NFL. Protest at work sounds like unions. Ask if athletes should be able to have political protests during sports events, and people will say no. These questions were deceptively worded.

  97. Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels – men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion.”

    Eisenhower

  98. If you think that African Americans don’t have the same rights under the constitution or refuse to accept that the protest is about police brutality…..stop watching the NFL.

    It is full of African American coaches, players and staff. If you don’t respect them, why are you watching them?

    Or better yet, stop taking the bait and letting the powers that be (media & POTUS) to divide us over something trivial.

  99. Basic Math shows this poll has flaws. If it is 58 saying it is not unpatriotic and 35 saying it is unpatriotic. Then the breakdown between race and party lines don’t add up to this holistic result. As republican and democrat is about 50-50 of population. As African American and Hispanic population is primarily democratic. And the white polling here shows a slight favor to being unpatriotic. As whites are about 80% of the population. That alone leaves about 42+% of the overall population (representing just white people who are republican and not counting the smaller portions of Hispanic and African Americans who also find it unpatriotic) so the overall population finding it unpatriotic at the very least should be 45-46% not 36%. This is based off of the breakdown percentages so also likely not accurate. Overall this poll is clearly garbage.

  100. neatpete1 says:
    June 7, 2018 at 5:56 pm
    “For example, Democrats support the right to protest via an 82-16 margin. Republicans say there is no right to protest, by a nearly identical split of 81-16.“

    To me that simply says the members of one party have actually read and understood the first amendment and the members of one party have not.”

    And yet most of your democrat friends are trying everyday to completely do away with the 2nd amendment or at least re-write it to fit their agenda! This is all part of the democrat hypocrisy. You try so hard to defend the 1st amendment(as long as it’s something you agree with) but on the other hand try to destroy another amendment just because you don’t like it. This in itself completely makes everything democrats say totally disingenuous and irrelevant!

  101. So if 42 percent of the audience you’re trying to reach with your message finds the approach unpatriotic (and is likely distracted from the message due to this approach) it’s probably not a good way to make your point – sounds like Malcom Jenkins is on to something….

  102. Well maybe they should poll football fans instead of just voters. These polls can change greatly depending on how the questions are asked or the options they give the person. All I know is if they continue this kind of ‘in your face’ political BS I will not be watching. Maybe it will take some empty stadiums to wake these idiots up.

  103. balzer41 says:
    June 7, 2018 at 6:52 pm

    neatpete1 says:
    June 7, 2018 at 5:56 pm

    “For example, Democrats support the right to protest via an 82-16 margin. Republicans say there is no right to protest, by a nearly identical split of 81-16.“

    To me that simply says the members of one party have actually read and understood the first amendment and the members of one party have not.”

    And yet most of your democrat friends are trying everyday to completely do away with the 2nd amendment or at least re-write it to fit their agenda! This is all part of the democrat hypocrisy. You try so hard to defend the 1st amendment(as long as it’s something you agree with) but on the other hand try to destroy another amendment just because you don’t like it. This in itself completely makes everything democrats say totally disingenuous and irrelevant!

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Balzer41 — have you actually ever read the Second Amendment? Do you know what it says? Or have you had the NRA and Fox News tell you. Which well regulated militia are you in?

  104. cabosan1978 says:
    June 7, 2018 at 2:37 pm
    marcsasharc says:

    Did you ask everyone you know? 😀 😀 😀
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    I did – nobody was polled except this one guy who voted for Hillary and doesnt watch football and hates cops.

    ***

    You must have a pretty small sphere of influence if you’ve already asked everyone you know about this poll.

    The world is bigger than you think man.

  105. rfahey22 says:
    June 7, 2018 at 3:03 pm

    Well, she did win the popular vote by about 3.5%…
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    So what. That’s why the United States is a Republic and not a Democracy. The founders did that so big cities couldn’t alone elect our Presidents. Look it up, it will be a good civics lesson for low information voters.

  106. It is all wordplay. The people may not be completely classified as unpatriotic but the act of kneeling during the anthem can certainly be classified as disrespectful and unpatriotic. Showing contempt towards the national flag and national anthem cannot be deemed as patriotic acts no matter how badly you want them to be. The particular people asked the questions as well as when they were asked can easily skew the results. It is fairly easy to formulate a two very similar questions on precisely the same topic and generate different answers from the same individual. Context matters as well. If you notice the preceding questions it is easy to see how some people could have been placed in a negative mindset before the questions you cited. The preceding questions were about Trump and race relations. Odds are that will put some people in a negative mindset. It automatically forces the narrative of the act of kneeling during the anthem to racial issues rather than if it is a disrespectful act. The two issues are separate but presented as one issue.

  107. It’s funny how 42% of you are so righteous, you wouldn’t know patriotism if it landed on your head. Protesting is THE MOST patriotic thing you can do. How many Americans have died fighting for the right to free speech? Thats the thing about free speech, it either is or it isn’t, you can’t pick & choose what can be done freely and what can’t be but you trumpers seem to think you can. You don’t have to agree with the protest but if you’re as american & patriotic as you claim you are, you agree with the right to free speech regardless of what it’s over

  108. jimmysee says:
    June 7, 2018 at 7:25 pm

    have you actually ever read the Second Amendment? Do you know what it says? Or have you had the NRA and Fox News tell you. Which well regulated militia are you in?
    _________________________________________________________

    Maybe you should familiarize yourself with what that actually meant when it was actually written. At that time it meant ordinary citizens that were deemed trustworthy and we’re willing to protect themselves and others who didn’t like our freedoms. Much like today how ordinary citizens must pass background checks(well regulated) to protect themselves against those who want to take away others freedoms. There will always be those who break the laws, thus the need for protecting 2nd amendment rights.

  109. This is a VERY easy issue for the NFL. Go ahead and “allow” some of your players to “protest” (It’s a fake protest, but whatever.) and then let’s see how much revenue you will lose. Then, when the next CBA is negotiated, the players will get a percentage of a smaller overall pie. How do I know the pie will be smaller, because you will lose MILLIONS of your most loyal fans, that’s how.

  110. Didn’t the NFL give the NFLPA $90 million to promote their social justice crusade? Instead of complaining about the anthem policy, why don’t the players get busy with their $90 million and report back to us on how they are changing the world.

  111. The poll question is far more generic than the article is trying to make it seem. The NFL is still listening to the vast majority of fans.

    Just because 58% believe the protesters aren’t unpatriotic doesn’t mean that 58% supports the protesting.
    Being neither patriotic or unpatriotic wasn’t a choice, that would certainly cut into the percent.
    You can both believe the protestors aren’t unpatriotic AND also not support the protest and means (during the anthem) of doing so.

  112. Thats the thing about free speech, it either is or it isn’t, you can’t pick & choose what can be done freely and what can’t be but you trumpers seem to think you can.

    ————————–

    Actually, that’s 100% wrong.

    To begin with, there are limitations on free speech by the government:

    You can’t slander people (civil penalty but still a law), you can’t yell fire in a crowded theater, and you can’t disclose classified information in a conversation — the list goes on.

    Second, the first amendment protects against retaliation from the government, not employers (at least not in all cases). Moreover, no where does it say I have to like your chosen message or method of protest — whatever it may be, and I am free to voice and act in dissent (as long as my approach is legal) in response.

    I haven’t heard one person say they are against an individuals right to protest against whatever they want to — but many people (percentage varies on what poll you believe) don’t think kneeling during the national anthem is appropriate as a form of protest.

  113. False equivalence – the poll is asking the wrong question … the proper question is whether or not kneeling is disrespectful – not whether or not it’s unpatriotic.

  114. Soooo. Many of you think that people have the right to be subversive on their company’s time, ehh? Well, sorry to inform you that U.S. labor Laws DO NOT AFFORD ANYONE THE RIGHT TO PROTEST PERSONAL VIEWS ON COMPANY TIME, PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I appreciate and respect the right to free speech, but it is done on one’s own time and is expressly written into the constitution. You all have the right to free speech, but you are not guaranteed protection from consesquences of said speech.

  115. Donald has done his job, completely polarizing this country based on hyperbole, altered facts and half truths…

    The protests have nothing to do with disrespect for the Military, even though many leaders want to make it seem that way.. many will follow along.

  116. They are selfish and disrespect a great many fans who don’t tune in for politics. Ya dig?

  117. Doesn’t matter what the general public thinks if the general public isn’t 100% consuming the NFL product. Those who watch and attend are those who matter. I don’t care what the players do. Eventually I will get tired of the issue and stop watching. And poll all you want. The way the question is asked determines the result. I was called by a polling outfit a few years ago. Was political opinion and when I didn’t answer the questions the way they liked, they hung up on me. Polls are garbage.

  118. iltibido says:
    June 7, 2018 at 2:35 pm
    Let us all remember….this all started when Kapernick was benched; he sat. The second game of his benching he knelt and his benching became a social justice movement.
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    I agree with you on Kaepernick. A loser making crybaby excuses to cover for the fact he had declined to where he lost his job.

    But basically every player that picked it up after him was sincere. I know of zero cases (not even Reid with his ill advised lawsuit) who was not acting out of caring and concern for social issues. So putting Kaepernick aside, there is still a valid movement afoot. My concern is that their obsession with the anthem as being their one and only means for raising awareness has severly undermined what they are trying to accomplish. I think these folks need to step back and decide that those few minutes before a football game is not the hill for their movement to die on and to instead start looking for better places to get their message accross. I recently saw an article about one of the protesters who used one of his press conferences (where he was being asked to speak so fair enough) held up signs that spoke of racism and also Trumps failure to hear him. It does not matter what I thought of his message, but because he did it in that manner I did absorb his message. I was not bothered in the slightest by how he presented it so that did not cloud the isdue at all, there was only his message to behold. I think more of these guys need to learn from that one players example.

  119. isithockeyseasonyet says:
    June 7, 2018 at 9:01 pm
    It’s funny how 42% of you are so righteous, you wouldn’t know patriotism if it landed on your head. Protesting is THE MOST patriotic thing you can do. How many Americans have died fighting for the right to free speech? Thats the thing about free speech, it either is or it isn’t, you can’t pick & choose what can be done freely and what can’t be but you trumpers seem to think you can. You don’t have to agree with the protest but if you’re as american & patriotic as you claim you are, you agree with the right to free speech regardless of what it’s over
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    What if a group of white players decided to kneel during the anthem to protest the unfair practice of affirmative action that the government has codified into law or the preferential treatment colleges give some minorities over others when it comes to admission? Would you still feel the same way? I can still say the players should protest on their own time and not while directly representing their employers. It is NOT a freedom of speech issue and NEVER has been. It is not about the message they are trying to send. It is about whether or not employers can establish and enforce behavior standards at work. Remember when “beastmode” grabbed his junk while jumping in the end zone, or when some players went overboard on celebrations and the league said they couldn’t do that and fined them? Where were all the free speech defenders then? As for your rant about speech either being free or not, several instances of speech have been limited/made illegal for various reasons. It has nothing to do with “Trumpers”. Try talking about a bomb while in an airport, yell “fire” in a movie theater, communicate a threat while using racial slurs and then get back to me on that free speech thing.

  120. Enjoying seeing the Millennials trying to tell the adults about about how life is. Used to call that speaking out of school..

  121. Would players like Kap and Malcolm Jenkins agree that it’s also “patriotic” or an expression of freedom of speech if four white players stood together and used their arms to form the letters M-A-G-A?

    Just wondering.

  122. A lot of people need to read the US Constitution. Plenty seem to be confused. The 1st Amendment protects you from government. It doesn’t give you the right to use your employers platform as a soap box.

  123. All of Trump’s moaning about players taking a knee as being unpatriotic is pretty funny coming from a guy who took a “foot” five times to dodge the draft.

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