Three days before draft, Patriots were making calls about a possible Gronkowski trade

AP

It’s indeed “hogwash” that the Patriots had a trade for tight end Rob Gronkowski on the table, that they were ready to proceed, that quarterback Tom Brady threatened to retire, and that owner Robert Kraft vetoed the deal. That doesn’t mean the Patriots didn’t explore the possibility of doing a deal.

Per a league source, the Patriots were calling other teams about a possible Gronkowski trade as recently as three days before the draft. Coincidentally (or not), Gronkowski ended nearly three months of uncertainty regarding his future by declaring publicly that he would play in 2018 only two days before the draft.

It’s not known what the Patriots wanted, or whether a deal was actually close. If it was, it never got to the point where Brady made a power play and Kraft made a boss move, literally.

Some think that the Patriots were hoping to add the assets needed to make a move for quarterback Baker Mayfield, who didn’t emerge as a serious candidate for the No. 1 overall pick until the week of the draft. It likely would have taken much more than the Patriots would have or could have surrendered to get all the way to top of the draft order.

95 responses to “Three days before draft, Patriots were making calls about a possible Gronkowski trade

  1. Of course they would and probably did, this is called doing their due diligence and assessing the market value of what Gronk is worth on the open market…

    Leave no stone unturned and explore every possibility to make your team better..

    Bottom line that was not mentioned, is they chose to do nothing… that is what is important.

  2. Yikes – that isnt going to help the team chemistry. Much respect to the Pats organization for setting the bar as high as they do, if you bag on them you are just jealous. But man – this has got to be a sign of the turbulence within.

  3. crush22 says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:20 am
    It’s over.
    #Decline

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    So say #TheHaters every year at this time since 2002….

  4. Clearly trying to get value for a player that was sending signs he might leave them with none. Once he declared his intentions, they trusted him and talks ceased. Good business.

  5. I honestly don’t know what Gronks value would be. Tremendous player, but you never know how much he is going to play.

    That corner catch in the end zone in the SB was a play only Gronk could have made. Plus, he is a pretty darn good blocker. A true 3 down TE, and there aren’t many of those. One of the few TEs you really have to game plan for, because of his combo of size and athleticism. Amazing guy to watch.

  6. 1st…gronk intiated this by indicating he might retire….BB is going to try and get SOMETHING for him, draft picks, players, whatever. As far as Brady threatning to retir, I don’t believe that at ALL. Lastly, Kraft will give Gronk a nice raise becuase he’s one of the CORE players in the Patriots dynasty.

  7. The Pats would never get Mayfield. Brady would never allow it. He would never put up with real competition to his job. Ask Jimmy Garoppolo what would happen if you are a threat to #Tommy.

  8. AS any comment section, and Jerry Colangelo’s twitter accounts, prove, people make lots of claims anonymously they wouldn’t make with their name attached.

    Gronk shopped? Until someone “in the game” puts his name to it color me skeptical. #anotherdaymorefakenews

  9. I would have done the same thing. I love Gronk, but if you have a guy jerking you around, you explore all options, especially when the jerk-around involves possible retirement and you’d need a new TE anyway. A big name like his could get a team to give up more than he’s ultimately worth for the Pats in the long term, and if they do, cash in and say “thanks for the memories.”

  10. “Per a league source”
    ======================

    Funny how anonymous sources get either praised of ripped here depending on which narrative you’re pushing…

  11. .500 in SB’s is nothing special, average at its finest

  12. Brady will not be a top 10 QB this season.

    The reason will be a nagging injury that is a byproduct of being 41 and he refuses to have his little buddy Guerrero treat it.

    And I think most objective fans know why.

    Brady’s legacy is on the precipice. We saw what happened to athletes legacies once the federal government started poking around at Balco and with the Edelman news I bet TB12 is now on their radar. Bad news for #Tommy.

  13. We all knew the rumors of Gronk getting traded were legit when Vegas sport books began removing the Patriots win totals from the board. They would’ve let it be if they were 100% sure Gronk would be a Patriot entering the season…

  14. As a Pats fan from Grogan days, I have absolutely no issue with shopping ANY PLAYER not named Tom Brady…..
    If the value is there & it will be best for the TEAM in the eyes & opinion of BB, I’m on board…..
    Hated to see Jimmy go, but it was a wise business decision to get a high pick & MOST IMPORTANTLY, CONTROL as to where he went…..the Salary cap made it impossible to keep both him & Brady & he (Jimmy G) apparently didn’t want to take a team friendly contract extension for 3-4 more years so HE GAVE BB NO CHOICE than to do what he had to do….& I can’t blame Jimmy for that as he is now rich & a starter!!!

  15. Braz says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:45 am
    The Pats would never get Mayfield. Brady would never allow it. He would never put up with real competition to his job. Ask Jimmy Garoppolo what would happen if you are a threat to #Tommy.

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    Well let’s look at the Garoppolo situation. Brady trained him and turned him into one of the top paid QBs in the NFL. Yeah….sounds horrible.

    You should worry more about what will happen when Nick Foles outplays Wentz in training camp and pre-season.

  16. Gene Jolie says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:18 am
    Of course they would and probably did, this is called doing their due diligence and assessing the market value of what Gronk is worth on the open market…

    Leave no stone unturned and explore every possibility to make your team better..

    Bottom line that was not mentioned, is they chose to do nothing… that is what is important.

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    Exactly. No one is really untouchable and all options should be open. This really isn’t news.

    And, I have no issue if BB wanted to call Gronk’s bluff. Tom and Gronk’s immature and passive aggressive behavior this offseason has not been a good look.

    But, I see this as water under the bridge at this point.

  17. yourbassist says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:36 am
    I find the idea of them testing Gronk’s market far more believable than them having an actual interest in Mayfield.

    7 0 Rate This
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    The Mayfield rumor was a bluff to mess with the Jets. The Jets wanted Mayfield. No way the Pats would ever trade up for Manziel II.

  18. u4iadman says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:33 am
    As a fan, way too much drama and lies and proven cheating.

    2 11 Rate This

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    Agreed. And, the ratings drops are proof. No NFL commissioner before (Rozelle and Tagliabue), ever saw a ratings drop before.

    Only since Goodell has been caught lying and cheating in federal courts since 2006, has the NFL seen an over-saturation of its prior ROI, where Goodell’s presence has led to a slow, but consistent downturn due to him being exposed and fans reacting negatively to his leadership.

  19. Why don’t you guys give it a rest? It was always bad now it’s a sickness. I got it along time ago, you and Curran hate NE. Curran is like, MKC of Clev, Grossi of Clev, Grant Cohn of SF. Grant Cohn took after his father Lowell Cohn.

  20. my_old_name_was_offensive says:
    June 13, 2018 at 11:00 am

    We all knew the rumors of Gronk getting traded were legit when Vegas sport books began removing the Patriots win totals from the board. They would’ve let it be if they were 100% sure Gronk would be a Patriot entering the season…

    That’s not true. You’re the reason the media gets away with these phony stories. You eat them up.

  21. I like girls that wear Abercrombie and Fitch says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:56 am
    .500 in SB’s is nothing special, average at its finest

  22. I like girls that wear Abercrombie and Fitch says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:56 am
    .500 in SB’s is nothing special, average at its finest

    It’s very special considering your team never gets to the SB.

  23. Braz says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:57 am
    Brady will not be a top 10 QB this season.

    Every should remember this comment so I’m November we can all have a good laugh

  24. nhpats says:
    June 13, 2018 at 11:08 am
    Braz says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:45 am
    The Pats would never get Mayfield. Brady would never allow it. He would never put up with real competition to his job. Ask Jimmy Garoppolo what would happen if you are a threat to #Tommy.

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    Well let’s look at the Garoppolo situation. Brady trained him and turned him into one of the top paid QBs in the NFL. Yeah….sounds horrible.

    You should worry more about what will happen when Nick Foles outplays Wentz in training camp and pre-season.

    0 0 Rate This

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    False. BB trained JimmyG. He is the only QB not named Brady that BB spent EVERY DAY WITH since he was drafted.

    Brady felt threatened, it lit a fire under Brady, and voila, here comes 3 SB appearances and 2 rings.

    BB trained JimmyG.

    And JimmyG looks darn good after BB’s efforts. Why more teams were not in on the bidding for him, no one will ever have any earthly idea.

    Welcome to the morons era of the NFL.

  25. Why would anyone have traded for him when he wasn’t even sure he wanted to play. Plus I’m sure the Patriots were asking for a lot. I’m not sure what his new contract will be like but that will make it very hard for them to trade him. Their philosophy of trading stars when they still have some value left may not work with Gronk. I doubt he’ll play much longer anyway.

  26. The Greatest Tight End in NFL History, Tony Gonzalez was traded at one point, so it isn’t crazy to think about. Of course it was 2 morons (Todd Haley / Scott Pioli) that traded Tony G.

  27. tylawspick6 says: “Agreed. And, the ratings drops are proof. No NFL commissioner before (Rozelle and Tagliabue), ever saw a ratings drop before.”
    =========================

    WRONG. Some of us are old enough to remember the angst when NFL ratings dropped by 24% over three years from 1982-84. Rozelle had to deal with 2 month strike, players constantly busted for drugs, USFL, antitrust lawsuit from the Raiders, etc.

    Goodell took a $4 billion business and grew it to over $14 billion in just 10 years. Previous commissioners were never able to capitalize on the NFL popularity as well as Goodell.

  28. cadreamer1969 says:
    June 13, 2018 at 11:24 am
    I like girls that wear Abercrombie and Fitch says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:56 am
    .500 in SB’s is nothing special, average at its finest

    It’s very special considering your team never gets to the SB.

    3-2 in SB’s is a .600 winning %..much better than your Patsies

  29. Braz says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:45 am
    The Pats would never get Mayfield. Brady would never allow it. He would never put up with real competition to his job. Ask Jimmy Garoppolo what would happen if you are a threat to #Tommy.

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    Utter nonsense borne of petty hate and a lack of understanding (or lack of willingness to understand) the picture there.

    If you devide to figure it out look at when the trade deadline for the season was, how free an agent JG was going to be after the season, and what it was going to cost to retain him (you can use what SF paid as a reference). No team in the NFL would pay that much for a backup. And make no mistake, with Brady showing zero signs if decline up to this point JG would be a backup.

    Those saying to trade Brady instead didn’t realize there is no team that is as dumb as they are. For all Brady’s past greatness he is still 40 and nothing can ever be counted on, everything from this point on is gravy. For the Pats to keep enjoying that gravy is one thing, they have Brady and might as well keep taking it while they get it. But for anyone else to give up anything significant (and it would have to be) to get Brady would be sheer stupidity. That decline will come at some point, maybe it starts showing in camp, maybe next year, maybe not for 3-4, the point is no one knows and he is already on freak of nature status so all guesses are off. The Pats do have to time the emergence of a successor and a good candidate starting with the team this year would be ok, but better yet would be to atart that clock next year. They do have their bets hedged if Brady drops off sooner but the way they are doing it is the most likely estimate that can be asked for.

  30. Every player can be traded. If you want to see if you could move up in the draft to get a top QB you have to assess your parts. I don’t see why it would be controversial. The Patriots traded away Milloy, Seymour, Mankins, etc. and let many other great players go like Assante Samuel and Chandler Jones.

    It’s not controversial that they would think about trading any player other than Brady, who I think Kraft would like to remain a Patriot for his career and become part of the teams future plans.

  31. unclebluck says:
    June 13, 2018 at 11:34 am
    Patriots = #Cheaters & #drama queens…

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    Unclebluck = VP of #CryBabyNation

  32. tylawspick6 says:
    June 13, 2018 at 11:09 am

    Gene Jolie says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:18 am
    Of course they would and probably did, this is called doing their due diligence and assessing the market value of what Gronk is worth on the open market…

    Leave no stone unturned and explore every possibility to make your team better..

    Bottom line that was not mentioned, is they chose to do nothing… that is what is important.
    ————————————-
    I posted virtually the same thing day before yesterday and was “roasted” by the Pats fans. Today, they are all agreeing with it. LMAO!!!

  33. Well let’s look at the Garoppolo situation. Brady trained him and turned him into one of the top paid QBs in the NFL. Yeah….sounds horrible.

    You should worry more about what will happen when Nick Foles outplays Wentz in training camp and pre-season.
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    If you knew anything about Nick Foles is that he’s a notoriously bad performer during practice..so the nonsense about him outplaying Wentz in OTA’s or camp is ridiculous. Further, Wentz has already looked better than Foles in OTA’s. Wentz is head and shoulders the better talent than Foles..and Foles is good.

  34. steelcurtainn says:
    June 13, 2018 at 11:49 am
    Does it matter? New England won’t be in no superbowl this season then dumkowski will be itching to get out of cheatersville.

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    Well that may be, but if true it will certainly not be the Steelers that have anything to do with it.

  35. Flash1287 says:
    June 13, 2018 at 11:24 am
    Braz says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:57 am
    Brady will not be a top 10 QB this season.

    Every should remember this comment so I’m November we can all have a good laugh

    —————-
    I actually started laughing at him last year.

  36. Brady is the NFL’s most successful player in the Super Bowl era and the reigning MVP and we have nitwits typing that he’d somehow be worried about competing with Baker Mayfield, who very well may turn out to be a name we’ll use as trivia someday. Others hope for or predict injury for him – fingers crossed – year after year after year….

    It’s laughable to read some of these comments from people who’s objectivity has been destroyed by losing to Brady and the Pats In what seems like forever. It’s turned their empty arguments and excuses into mush—and really, they can do only one thing: simply wait until it’s eventually over.

    So, conjure up your silly predictions and contort yourselves into pretzels whining about gifted wins by division foes (love that one) or puffs of air in footballs if you want to, but you know you only have one actual recourse—wait until the greatest player the league has decided he is done torturing you.

  37. realdealsteel says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:19 am
    As they should; You should always test the waters for a sucker.

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    Im not sure they even did that. But you are right. It would be madness for any team to risk giving up any significant assets to get Gronk or Brady. In both cases you might wind up with a ton of past greatness on your team, but any future greatness is a dice roll. It just might be there is a lot still to come and great if it is, but with both there is no guarantee of anything so the risk is very real that team is trading for little to nothing in return. And no matter what they get they would still have to live every minute not knowing if the minute after will come. If these guys were not already on the Patriots the Patriots would not trade for them either. For the rest of their careers whether long or short it will only make sense to have them in Patriot uniforms.

  38. Man – the pats fan are sensitive and in major denial after reading these comments. AS a Packer fan – i saw the tough call the team had to make when we traded Brett. It suckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkked. As much as the Pats fans want to deny it – they dropped the ball by not letting Brady go for Jimmy G.

  39. It’s a proven fact the media is ignorant of the Pats draft board. The media made so many incorrect guesses. It started with Jackson in the 1st, then changed almost by the minute. Last year they only had 50 – 75 players on it.

  40. steelcurtainn says:
    June 13, 2018 at 11:49 am
    Does it matter? New England won’t be in no superbowl this season then dumkowski will be itching to get out of cheatersville.

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    Well that may be, but if true it will certainly not be the Steelers that have anything to do with it.
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    Steelers still think it was the Patriots that eliminated them in the playoffs.

  41. akira554 says:
    June 13, 2018 at 11:34 am
    tylawspick6 says: “Agreed. And, the ratings drops are proof. No NFL commissioner before (Rozelle and Tagliabue), ever saw a ratings drop before.”
    =========================

    WRONG. Some of us are old enough to remember the angst when NFL ratings dropped by 24% over three years from 1982-84. Rozelle had to deal with 2 month strike, players constantly busted for drugs, USFL, antitrust lawsuit from the Raiders, etc.

    Goodell took a $4 billion business and grew it to over $14 billion in just 10 years. Previous commissioners were never able to capitalize on the NFL popularity as well as Goodell.

    3 3 Rate This

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    LOL

    I am not talking about during a Lockout or Strike like in ’82 or ’87. I remember it well and certainly know more than you.

    I am talking about in non strike or Lockout related periods like…….NOW. They have a WINDFALL CBA deal that has the union over the sink and one owner waas quoted as saying “We should be making more money than we are!”

    Never in NFL history have they LOST TV money until the last 2 seasons. This is a simple fact.

  42. You know Tom Curran is bad when Mike Reiss ignores his stories. Good to see BB is with his beautiful girlfriend enjoying life and the media is using their energy to hate.

  43. cabosan1978 says:
    June 13, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    Man – the pats fan are sensitive and in major denial after reading these comments. AS a Packer fan – i saw the tough call the team had to make when we traded Brett. It suckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkked. As much as the Pats fans want to deny it – they dropped the ball by not letting Brady go for Jimmy G.

    Too bad you know nothing about the salary cap or Brady’s extension or all NE could do is franchise Jimmy G. Getting rid of the MVP and starting a player who started a couple games in 4 years isn’t very bright is a side note.

  44. “League Source”. Don’t believe it. Even if that is an actual person which I don’t believe, even if that actual person actually works for the league which I don’t believe, that person is probably lying.

    There are no consequences for lying in media.

  45. gauchosporlife says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:34 am
    Patriots will regret that Garappolo trade for a good while.
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    Truer words have never been spoken.

  46. I posted virtually the same thing day before yesterday and was “roasted” by the Pats fans. Today, they are all agreeing with it. LMAO!!!

    Yeah, no you didn’t

  47. cadreamer1969 says:
    June 13, 2018 at 12:30 pm
    Getting rid of the MVP and starting a player who started a couple games in 4 years isn’t very bright is a side note.
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    Just speaking from experience. Favre was a 3 time league MVP and Rodgers never started a game. It was a sad day in Green Bay as Favre was an icon but moving on from Favre to Rodgers was the best move the Packers could have made when looking at the future of the franchise.

  48. gauchosporlife says:

    June 13, 2018 at 10:34 am

    Patriots will regret that Garappolo trade for a good while

    =================

    Because… Gronk almost got traded? Brady is a much better value than Jimmy G who is the second highest paid QB in the NFL. Brady is cheaper, more durable and obviously has a longer track record.

  49. cabosan1978 says:
    June 13, 2018 at 12:46 pm
    cadreamer1969 says:
    June 13, 2018 at 12:30 pm
    Getting rid of the MVP and starting a player who started a couple games in 4 years isn’t very bright is a side note.
    ——————————————
    Just speaking from experience. Favre was a 3 time league MVP and Rodgers never started a game. It was a sad day in Green Bay as Favre was an icon but moving on from Favre to Rodgers was the best move the Packers could have made when looking at the future of the franchise.

    ————–

    Really? They did win one SB (same as Trent Dilfer) but have hamstrung the team in order to pay Aaron. The Packers are currently going nowhere.

  50. 3-2 in SB’s is a .600 winning %..much better than your Patsies
    ____________________________________________________________________________________________________

    In what universe is only making it to 5 SBs and winning 3, better than making it to 10 and winning 5? Your team was not good enough to make it to the SB more than 5 times…….it means your team is more average then the Pats. By that logic, the NY Jets are the best team ever being 1-0 (1.00 winning %) in the SB

  51. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:

    June 13, 2018 at 12:45 pm

    gauchosporlife says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:34 am
    Patriots will regret that Garappolo trade for a good while.
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    Truer words have never been spoken.

    =========================

    A high school QB or Jimmy G? made up your mind yet?

  52. Steelers still think it was the Patriots that eliminated them in the playoffs.
    _____________________________________________________________________________________________________

    They are just acting out instinctively. Its usually the Pats that cut the Steelers season short. In 2017, it was the Jags…..a team that had one just 3 games the year before. Steelers are a sinking ship and will go nowhere as long as they continue to be in the same conference as the Pats.

  53. I like girls that wear Abercrombie and Fitch says:
    June 13, 2018 at 11:35 am
    cadreamer1969 says:
    June 13, 2018 at 11:24 am
    I like girls that wear Abercrombie and Fitch says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:56 am
    .500 in SB’s is nothing special, average at its finest

    It’s very special considering your team never gets to the SB.

    3-2 in SB’s is a .600 winning %..much better than your Patsies

    ____

    Raiders or Redskins. Either way, they haven’t sniffed a SB in forever. The Pats have gone to 9 SB’s since the last time either of those teams won a SB.

  54. It never ceases to amaze me that people don’t realize the Pats HAD to trade Garopollo. Anyone that doesn’t get that is either a troll or a moron. Probably the same people that said JG was the next Cassell.

  55. bighairbingopro says:
    June 13, 2018 at 2:44 pm
    Yah, due diligence. That’s it! Always be prepared to trade your best players. How did that work with Jimmy G?
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    Want to get back to us in say, maybe a season or two? 6 games does NOT make a HOF career. He broke after his first game and a half as a starter, is small, possibly fragile and hasn’t had an offseason or two for defenses to catch up to him. I get the 9ers fanbase excitement as they had nothing to look forward to until JG came on the scene. I’d take a 41 year old Brady over an up and comer in this day and age of win now. Brady is money in the bank, JG is still a question mark and only time will tell how it really did workout.

  56. I like girls that wear Abercrombie and Fitch says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:56 am
    .500 in SB’s is nothing special, average at its finest
    It’s very special considering your team never gets to the SB.
    3-2 in SB’s is a .600 winning %..much better than your Patsies
    —————————————————————————
    Games played….10, twice as many as five.
    SB’s won…………….5, two and change greater than two
    If you think your team is more successful than the Patriots you sure set the bar low.

  57. Simple. Pats knew the other teams would reach out to Rosenhaus to gauge how serious Gronk was about retiring. If indicates he isn’t and the Pats trade him, Gronk has little leverage to negotiate a better contract. So Gronk is now on thin ice and is better served to at least get a contract from the Pats close to what he’s looking for or risk ending up on another team and becoming a free agent next year.

  58. Say what you want about Robert Kraft but I believe he will never allow TB12 to retire in anything but a Patriot jersey. No one has been more responsible for turning the Pats into the model NFL franchise, a team in the mix every year for close to 20 years than Brady. Kraft knows this and has a true loyalty to him. I find that refreshing in this day of disposable players and meaningless contracts. The Pats are known as cold blooded when dealing with players but in this one instance I believe Brady stays as long as he wants and never gets released or traded. Gronk? Sorry, great but unpredictable and sadly, unreliable.

  59. Belichick called Gronkowski’s bluff. Put it out that you want to trade him and guess who shows up to work. He knows if he gets sent elsewhere and plays with a bad QB or a team that doesn’t utilize him, there’s no more Gronk being Gronk.

  60. Remember this quote.. when Gronk was asked about his status and if he was planning on playing for the 2018 Patriots…

    “Status is: Doing really great. I’ve been riding dirt bikes, training really hard. I can VROOM VROOM really good. I can ride that bike like no other, and my speed is up there.”

    These incredibly brilliant words were uttered the week before the draft… one thing is certain the Pats do not play these type of games, and they shouldn’t…

  61. gauchosporlife says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:34 am

    Patriots will regret that Garappolo trade for a good while.

    ************************

    The Patriots made it to the SB last year without Jimmy G. on the roster. Where did the 49ers end up?

    Furthermore, would Garoppolo (if you’re going to speak so highly of him, at least spell his name correctly) had outperformed Brady’s 500 yd game and made the difference? Doubtful.

    As a Patriots fan, I wish him the best and will follow his career closely, but given the financial restraints which forced the Patriots to choose one versus the other, I have no problems with them betting on the known quantity that is Tom Brady, even if it’s only for a couple of years compared to the length of Garoppolo’s future.

  62. Chill_Donahue says:

    June 13, 2018 at 1:25 pm

    Because… Gronk almost got traded? Brady is a much better value than Jimmy G who is the second highest paid QB in the NFL. Brady is cheaper, more durable and obviously has a longer track record.
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    Kraft pays Brady under the table through his TB12 business.

  63. silvernblacksabbath says:

    Kraft pays Brady under the table through his TB12 business.

    ======================================================

    If only there was proof….then you’d be on to something. TB12 actually pays Kraft, there is proof of that. Kraft owns Patriot Place and TB12 rents there offices there.

  64. “blink-182 says:
    June 13, 2018 at 12:42 pm
    Crumbling franchise”

    yup… been hearing that line for about 15 years now…. one og these years it has to be true right??… too bad for you, not this year or anytime soon!!!

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