Belichick gives players a history lesson, with props

AP

Before Patriots coach Bill Belichick canceled the final two days of Organized Team Activities, he used what ended up being the final day not to push the needle forward, but to look backward.

Yes, the coach notorious for always putting last year behind him took his team on a trip to yesteryear.

Via Mike Reiss of ESPN.com, Belichick gave his players on Tuesday “a wide-ranging history lesson on the roots of football.” In doing so, Belichick tried to create a throwback environment, with leather helmets dusted off and digital clocks covered up.

Also, the players saw black-and-white video of old-school football, and they ate a lunch that would have resembled the lunch that football players ate in the old days (basically, the kind of crap the rest of us still eat now for lunch, like hamburgers and hot dogs).

“It was a lot of fun. We walked in and you could tell something different was going on than the normal practice day,” an unnamed player told Reiss. (The fact that the player wouldn’t give his name for something that innocuous underscores the reality that, even on a play day, Belichick is still the most secretive coach in all of football.)

Said another unnamed player (again, innocuous): “The thing I’ve learned about Coach Belichick is that he loves history, loves the military, and any time he can incorporate teaching us about that, he loves to do it.”

The move also suggests that Belichick loves where his team currently is, given that three full days of OTAs ultimately were scrapped. Or maybe he simply realized that, without quarterback Tom Brady there, nothing significant was going to be accomplished.

50 responses to “Belichick gives players a history lesson, with props

  1. “Or maybe he simply realized that, without quarterback Tom Brady there, nothing significant was going to be accomplished.”
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    Never miss an opportunity for a jab.

  2. When Brady’s gone he goes into full blown substitute teacher mode. lol

    I will say I do like the nod to the old school approach though.

  3. Did he give the newcomers a history lesson in the advancements in his cheating methods since 2001? This is always key knowledge for the patriot rookie class

  4. Football is a contact sport so there is only so much a team can do during the portion of the season when contact is banned.

  5. “It was a lot of fun. We walked in and you could tell something different was going on than the normal practice day,” an unnamed player told Reiss

    Wait…..I thought some guy named Lane Johnson said that Pats don’t have any fun??

  6. You would think he would want to work on defense, seeing that his defense got torched by a backup qb in the last game. Tom not being around doesn’t impact that…

  7. ” he used what ended up being the final day not to push the needle forward, but to look backward.”

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    paying homage to patriots legend The Deflator and his tool of choice. Nice

  8. Is he teaching the newcomers about the advancements in his high tech cheating methods since 2001?

  9. He should have had 3 hours of practice with NO water. NO tapping out. Let’s not forget ‘head ons’ or whatever others called lining up and lowering your helmet at full speed one on one. We got money if we cracked the other guys helmet.

    Anyone who wants the good old days back never played or forgot. The no water thing got me to play college baseball instead of football. Maybe it was just me but about 1/2 way through football practice all I could think about was being thirsty, in between pain. The fastest we all ran was to the various water fountains or sinks for the competition to get water first, when practice ended.

    Pain, cold, rain has nothing on being dehydrated.

  10. thermanmerman99 says:
    June 14, 2018 at 10:19 am
    Is he teaching the newcomers about the advancements in his high tech cheating methods since 2001?

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    Absolutely. And he threatens them with penalty of death if they tell anyone. That’s why many hundreds of ex-players have never spilled the beans on his methods.

  11. What is it with the Patriot obsessed trolls and the “hang a banner” comments… The Patriots only hand SuperBowl Banners…. geeze, who do you think they are…the Colts??

  12. I have to agree with the fans of other teams….. they have ALL BEEN CHEATED….. just not by whom they’d like to think…..
    It’s SO MUCH EASIER to blame the Patriots for all their teams failures than hold THEIR TEAMS PLAYERS COACHES & OWNERS ACCOUNTABLE……it HAS to be the Patriots fault…..,
    Kind of reminds me of Jan on the Brady Bunch….. MARSHA, MARSHA, MARSHAAAAAHHH……
    It’s a RIOT to see them on here moaning like Jan…… Puts a HUGE SMILE on my face every time I read the poor souls frustrations!!!!
    GO PATS……keep being MARSH to all the JANS out there!!!!!

  13. >Is he teaching the newcomers about the advancements in his high tech cheating methods since 2001?

    Belichick, “Before the 2002 Super Bowl, we used to use these… they’re called binoculars and we positioned staff in various parts of the stadium to try to figure out the other team’s signals. Today, we use these… they’re called micro-transmitters, when we’re on defense, all we need to do is pat one of the other team’s players on the back and it’ll stick to their uniform. Then, we can hear everything in their huddle and on the sidelines throughout the game… all playcalls, audibles, game planning, adjustments, strategy changes, discussions with the coaches… it’s like we’re right there with them. We’ve got guys in the audio room listening to everything they’re saying and we’ve got nerds in the computer lab breaking it all down in real time… it’s a game changer!… It’s the Patriot way!”

  14. Slow Joe (Bucs fan) says:
    June 14, 2018 at 10:10 am
    Even when Brady retires, I just can’t see Belichick failing. He’s just so damn good.

    But I still can’t figure out the Malcolm Butler thing.

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    1. Poor postseason.
    2. 103 passer rating against during the season.
    3. Faked the flu once realizing he was not in the gameplan as much as he’d hoped.
    4. Cleaned out locker, saying “I am going to get paid” after rejecting Chris Harris money last spring.
    5. Mouthed off at coaches during SB week and coaches lost trust, as did teammates.
    6. Cried like Spaulding Smales after being told he would not start.

    I would imagine all of these things, including how “difficult it was to get Butler ready” all season (either Patricia said that, or possibly Boyer or Flores), had A LOT TO DO with how Butler went off the rails after being delusional with his market value and Gilmore eventually playing better as a #1CB.

    People need to ask Butler why he did all these things. Blaming BB for this is insanity. It’s like blaming BB for Hernandez channeling Tony MOntana or Chandler Jones channeling Hunter S. Thompson at the police station.

    He can’t always rein in Millennial adults.

  15. History shows if you cheat you only get caught once a decade or so – a cheap price to get some rings. A historical timeline:In 2007 Belichick was officially fined $500,000 — the largest fine ever imposed on a coach in the league’s then-87-year history, and the maximum permitted under league rules. The Patriots were also fined $250,000, and stripped of their first-round selection in the 2008 NFL Draft. Then the Patriots organization was fined $1 million and lost their first round pick in the 2016 NFL draft and their fourth round pick in the 2017 NFL draft. Tom Brady was suspended four games.

  16. “A historical timeline:In 2007 Belichick was officially fined $500,000 — the largest fine ever imposed on a coach in the league’s then-87-year history, and the maximum permitted under league rules. The Patriots were also fined $250,000, and stripped of their first-round selection in the 2008 NFL Draft. Then the Patriots organization was fined $1 million and lost their first round pick in the 2016 NFL draft and their fourth round pick in the 2017 NFL draft. Tom Brady was suspended four games.”
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    How else would the NFL big wigs be able to enforce the parity if they don’t fabricate the “…gates” to justify stripping the draft picks from Patriots?

  17. Wonder how many coaches will now waste time watching/rewatching old NFL videos in the hopes of seeing what BB sees in them, only to find nothing but lost time they can’t have back for actual preparation.

  18. tylawspick6 says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:45 am

    He can’t always rein in Millennial adults.

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    If everything you wrote was true, the benching made sense… Only until the team that Bill did field got utterly torched. Then, no matter what, you have to adjust and try something different, because Butler’s replacements were not getting it done. Worst case scenario, Butler doesn’t improve the situation. But not doing anything to adjust, and with a guy who’s stepped up in the past even if he’s had a down year, that’s inexcusable.

  19. Bill Belichick, with all his surliness and arrogance, may very well be greatest coach of all time. Or at least he is in the conversation.

  20. Belichick may be GOAT coach.

    Brady on the other hand is not GOAT QB. To be honest I have a very difficult time ranking him in my top 15 of the greatest of all time. Pat fan will mumble something about wins and rings but as any intelligent football fan knows, those things are a team accomplishment, not an accomplishment of the quarterback. Wins are a microscopically small factor into greatness. There’s a lot more to being great than winning. Put Brady on the Detroit Lions and how great would he be and how much would he win? How great would he be away from Belichick? Nobody knows. It’s not likely he will win a lot. Would he even still be in pro football? 6th round draft picks tend to not last very long in the league and there’s a good reason for that. Now put Peyton Manning in his prime on the Patriots with Belichick. There is no doubt they’d win multiple titles. They might even have an undefeated season in there. Or two.

    That’s the problem with putting Brady at the top. Nobody outside of NE will remember how great he was on the field. Nobody will ever attest to how he changed the game, his cerebralness, his arm, his ability to improvise, his ability to lead, his ability to be calm and cool under pressure, his ability make his whole team better. But they will remember his wins and titles. And the controversies – but that’s another topic.

    Brady is the indisputable MSOAT (Most Successful of All Time). And yes will be remembered as a great QB (assuming of course he is playing without PEDs). But he will never be GOAT. Not even close. He isn’t even the greatest QB of all time in his era, nor in his own division – so how is it possible he is GOAT?

  21. bystanderhere says:
    June 14, 2018 at 12:24 pm
    “A historical timeline:In 2007 Belichick was officially fined $500,000 — the largest fine ever imposed on a coach in the league’s then-87-year history, and the maximum permitted under league rules. The Patriots were also fined $250,000, and stripped of their first-round selection in the 2008 NFL Draft. Then the Patriots organization was fined $1 million and lost their first round pick in the 2016 NFL draft and their fourth round pick in the 2017 NFL draft. Tom Brady was suspended four games.”
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    How else would the NFL big wigs be able to enforce the parity if they don’t fabricate the “…gates” to justify stripping the draft picks from Patriots?

    5 2 Rate This

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    He’ll never answer that question.

    I also believe the only reason why the Browns or Chiefs had picks taken away for their violations, was because it would look like he wasn’t framing JUST the Pats to be able to steal picks.

    The Jets tampered for the umpteenth time against the Pats with Revis, and the Chiefs tampered with Maclin simply because Reid USED TO COACH him, and the punishments were completely different.

    It’s incredibly suspicious. The fact there is this false aura of sinister activity surrounding the Pats, the Goodell alllowed to be developed, allows him the perfect platform to frame the PAts again and again with Article 46 in tow.

    Wait unitl BB retires and Kraft is in a nursing home. It will all come out and Goodell will be seen as the cheater here, if he already isn’t.

    I mean, Woody Johnson volunteered to select the new commissioner in 2005. Goodell is from NY and a Jets fan.

    All the money, the headquarters, etc, comes right out of NY. It couldn’t be any clearer at this point.

  22. nhpats says:
    June 14, 2018 at 10:29 am

    thermanmerman99 says:
    June 14, 2018 at 10:19 am
    Is he teaching the newcomers about the advancements in his high tech cheating methods since 2001?

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    Absolutely. And he threatens them with penalty of death if they tell anyone. That’s why many hundreds of ex-players have never spilled the beans on his methods.

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    The sooner pat fan accepts that these controversies are part of who their team is, the more readable these boards will be. I’ll never understand why Pat fan takes the time and effort to create these long diatribes defending their team that nobody except themselves will ever read – they will never change anyone’s minds on this so why bother?

    Unfortunately perception is reality and the Pats are thought of as cheaters. I do not necessarily agree with that (although I certainly will join that chorus if and when Brady and his little buddy Guerrero are popped for PEDs), but I can see why people feel that way. That is Belichick’s fault for his arrogance trying to lawyer up a memo clearly saying do not tape from the sidelines, and Brady’s fault for his carelessness when he got his ballboys to deflate footballs.

  23. That’s the problem with putting Brady at the top. Nobody outside of NE will remember how great he was on the field. Nobody will ever attest to how he changed the game, his cerebralness, his arm, his ability to improvise, his ability to lead, his ability to be calm and cool under pressure, his ability make his whole team better. But they will remember his wins and titles. And the controversies – but that’s another topic.
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    I’ll try again since you always refuse to answer……why is it that an overwhelming majority of people involved in football (not just fans) consider Brady the GOAT? What are they missing that you seem to have figured out? The tired argument that they equate wins/success with greatness is laughable. These are people that know far more about football greatness then you do. We are talking players, ex-players, coaches, GMs, writers, analysts, and on and on.

    We get it, you don’t like Brady. That’s fine, but your entire diatribe is pointless and lacks substance. You disregard all of Brady’s individual accolades, most of which are record setting. Literally every single SB that is played after Brady retires he will be mentioned in some sort of commentary on statistical performances. Anytime a QB is close to breaking any record, Brady’s name will be on the screen. The fact of the matter is everyone is going to remember Brady, there is absolutely no question about it.

    Its laughable to suggest no one will remember his “ability to be calm and cool under pressure”. All you have to do is throw on the 4th quarter of the 2017 SB where he led the greatest comeback in SB history.

  24. gysot says:
    June 14, 2018 at 10:11 am

    ” he used what ended up being the final day not to push the needle forward, but to look backward.”
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    paying homage to patriots legend The Deflator and his tool of choice. Nice
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    … and the Colts haven’t had a winning season or playoff game since. Nice.

    honestly, they never recovered from that 45-7 beat down. That’s karma for conspiring with the Ravens.

  25. blessedunliketherest says:
    June 14, 2018 at 2:56 pm

    That’s the problem with putting Brady at the top. Nobody outside of NE will remember how great he was on the field. Nobody will ever attest to how he changed the game, his cerebralness, his arm, his ability to improvise, his ability to lead, his ability to be calm and cool under pressure, his ability make his whole team better. But they will remember his wins and titles. And the controversies – but that’s another topic.
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    I’ll try again since you always refuse to answer……why is it that an overwhelming majority of people involved in football (not just fans) consider Brady the GOAT? What are they missing that you seem to have figured out? The tired argument that they equate wins/success with greatness is laughable. These are people that know far more about football greatness then you do. We are talking players, ex-players, coaches, GMs, writers, analysts, and on and on.

    We get it, you don’t like Brady. That’s fine, but your entire diatribe is pointless and lacks substance. You disregard all of Brady’s individual accolades, most of which are record setting. Literally every single SB that is played after Brady retires he will be mentioned in some sort of commentary on statistical performances. Anytime a QB is close to breaking any record, Brady’s name will be on the screen. The fact of the matter is everyone is going to remember Brady, there is absolutely no question about it.

    Its laughable to suggest no one will remember his “ability to be calm and cool under pressure”. All you have to do is throw on the 4th quarter of the 2017 SB where he led the greatest comeback in SB history.

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    Because many people for some reason associate greatness with winning. I don’t. Winning is a TEAM accomplishment not a QB accomplishment. Always was, and always will be. Is Eli Manning as great as John Elway because they have the same number of rings? Tebow won a lot, is he a great QB? Flutie won a lot, is he a great QB? I don’t think so. Appeal to authority arguments don’t work, it doesn’t mean they can’t possibly be wrong.

    You cannot deny that in the future, the thing people will never forget about Brady is his wins and success. Nobody will remember that he once held the passing TD record. Nobody will remember how many 300 yard passing games he’s had in a row. But they’ll remember his wins. That’s my point. We don’t know how great Brady really is minus Belichick and we’ll probably never know. I’m sure you’re right but people won’t know or care about that. They only know him and respect him for his success. MSOAT, by the very definition.

    And actually there is only one thing I genuinely dislike about Brady – his association with Guerrero peddling false science and snake oil to gullible and desperate people. But who says I don’t like watching him on the field? I like watching great players. I like watching elite QBs. But in my book he is not even close to GOAT. Success is such a tiny part of what makes a QB great that it’s almost not worth mentioning.

  26. We get it, you don’t like Brady. That’s fine, but your entire diatribe is pointless and lacks substance. You disregard all of Brady’s individual accolades, most of which are record setting. Literally every single SB that is played after Brady retires he will be mentioned in some sort of commentary on statistical performances. Anytime a QB is close to breaking any record, Brady’s name will be on the screen. The fact of the matter is everyone is going to remember Brady, there is absolutely no question about it.

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    You’re also thinking like a Pats fan. No doubt Pats fans will remember Brady very well. But would a fan of say, the Cowboys or Raiders remember anything about Brady years from now other than he won a lot? I doubt it.

  27. To add to my point about Brady.

    I cringed every single time Peyton Manning was under center facing my team. I knew what Peyton Manning could do to my team and more often than not he did. And he did it for so many years. Most cerebral QB I’ve ever seen in his prime with a deadly accurate arm. Seeing him play was like watching an artist at work. It’s easy to appreciate it. People will remember how great he was on the field and all the records he set.

    Never cringed at all when it was Brady, not even once. It wasn’t Brady I feared, it was the man on the sidelines wearing the hoodie.

    That’s why one QB is an all time great QB that belongs in the GOAT conversation and the other QB simply doesn’t. That’s my opinion, not my fault Pat fan doesn’t like it.

  28. Because many people for some reason associate greatness with winning. I don’t. Winning is a TEAM accomplishment not a QB accomplishment. Always was, and always will be. Is Eli Manning as great as John Elway because they have the same number of rings? Tebow won a lot, is he a great QB? Flutie won a lot, is he a great QB? I don’t think so. Appeal to authority arguments don’t work, it doesn’t mean they can’t possibly be wrong.
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    This argument is disingenuous as you are implying all Brady has to his name are wins. He does not. He has both the wins and the individual accolades to show for it. Will people remember the wins first, yea most likely because success is the ultimate goal. That is why a lot of people’s knock on Peyton Manning is he was a choker when the games really counted (i.e. playoffs). Is that true? Probably not, but as you like to say perception is reality.

    By the time Brady retires, he will hold most of the individual QB records and those he doesn’t, he will be in the top 3. No other QB has had both the team and individual success that Brady has. Not to mention he holds every meaningful playoff record for QBs. It’s not debatable, he is an all-time great. To me (and 90% of people out there) he is the GOAT. To say he is not a top-15 QB is laughable. Name the 15 QBs that you think are better.

  29. I cringed every single time Peyton Manning was under center facing my team. I knew what Peyton Manning could do to my team and more often than not he did. And he did it for so many years. Most cerebral QB I’ve ever seen in his prime with a deadly accurate arm. Seeing him play was like watching an artist at work. It’s easy to appreciate it. People will remember how great he was on the field and all the records he set.

    Never cringed at all when it was Brady, not even once. It wasn’t Brady I feared, it was the man on the sidelines wearing the hoodie.
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    Likely to no avail, but I’ll ask again. What team do you root for? You always like to claim that’s not relevant to the argument, but you brought it up here. You say PM has success against your team. I’d like to know how Brady has performed against your team over the years. He has carved up pretty much every NFL team out there, so really interested to know if maybe you really should have feared Brady given how he performed.

  30. blessedunliketherest says:
    June 14, 2018 at 10:16 pm
    Because many people for some reason associate greatness with winning. I don’t. Winning is a TEAM accomplishment not a QB accomplishment.

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    What?!?!?

    What else is there? Let’s by all means start associating LOSING with greatness and see who on Earth would possibly listen to that.

    Also—don’t know if you noticed—certain positions in certain sports are disproportionately influential in determining outcomes, none more than NFL quarterback. We’re all pretty sure that the Pats don’t visit all the AFC Championship and Super Bowl games they have without the greatest quarterback in Tom Brady for 18 years, but I’m sure you’d like to attribute those more to the roster that’s been turned over umpteen times and features more no-names than anyone can recall.

    I thought I was taking crazy pills there for a moment….

  31. In no particular order – Montana, Bradshaw, P.Manning, Rodgers, Kelly, Aikman, Roethlisberger, Favre, Elway, Marino, Young, Brees, Warner, Moon for sure. I never saw Starr, Graham or Unitas play live but they’d have to be on the list somewhere too. And to round out the list you could go with Cunningham, and then maybe Brady or Gannon. Again – I’m talking about the greatest QBs. Guys who changed the game. Guys who will be remembered forever for how they played and changed the way the position is played. Not for how much they won. Success does not equate to greatness.

    Did you ever think there’s a reason why a lot of fans berate Brady by calling him a system QB and “2 yard Tom” or “dink and dunk Tom”? Yes a lot of it is trying to get a rise out of Pat fan but there is also some perception out there that Brady ain’t all that. Why do you suppose that is? Do you hear any of those other guys being berated like that? I don’t. There’s a reason for that. The general objective football fan simply does not agree that he is among the greatest. You’d never hear the greats being derided like this. The general football fan believes that his success (and in my opinion, Coach Belichick) is the only reason why he is even in this conversation.

    Go back in time and have Brady drafted by the Detroit Lions or Cleveland Browns instead of the Pats. Consider the 6th round draft pick (and likely UDFA if he wasn’t picked by the Pats) – starting his career away from Belichick. Then how good would Brady become? How much success would he have? Once you guys answer that question honestly then maybe you’ll start to understand why he cannot possibly be in the conversation as GOAT.

    We saw Peyton Manning take two different teams to 2 Super Bowls respectively, winning 1 each. I doubt Brady would do the same.

  32. ikeclanton says:
    June 15, 2018 at 10:12 am

    blessedunliketherest says:
    June 14, 2018 at 10:16 pm
    Because many people for some reason associate greatness with winning. I don’t. Winning is a TEAM accomplishment not a QB accomplishment.

    ——

    What?!?!?

    What else is there? Let’s by all means start associating LOSING with greatness and see who on Earth would possibly listen to that.

    Also—don’t know if you noticed—certain positions in certain sports are disproportionately influential in determining outcomes, none more than NFL quarterback
    =================================
    Tebow won a lot. Is he a great QB?
    Dilfer, Johnson, Doug Williams won Super Bowls. Did they have impact on the outcome of those games? Are they great QBs?
    Is Eli Manning as great as John Elway because they both have 2 rings?

  33. Go back in time and have Brady drafted by the Detroit Lions or Cleveland Browns instead of the Pats.
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    Kind of hard to be drafted by a team that ceased to exist a year earlier. 🙂

  34. Go back in time and have Brady drafted by the Detroit Lions or Cleveland Browns instead of the Pats. Consider the 6th round draft pick (and likely UDFA if he wasn’t picked by the Pats) – starting his career away from Belichick. Then how good would Brady become? How much success would he have? Once you guys answer that question honestly then maybe you’ll start to understand why he cannot possibly be in the conversation as GOAT.

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    I know you’re doing your usual contrarian take and all but you’re slipping a bit here 🙂
    How about you tell us how good you think Joe Montana would be if he wasn’t drafted by the 49ers and didn’t have the benefit of Walsh and a top 8 defense every year he’s made a Super Bowl (which is a luxury Brady did NOT have – look it up)? I think you see where I’m going with this. That has nothing to do with greatness.

    Wins are a team stat for sure and I might be inclined to agree that people overrate wins when assessing a QB. But that doesn’t mean the QB doesn’t have a lot to do with those wins. Wins are a team stat but last I checked the QB is a major part of the team and they do track W-L for QBs for a reason. 🙂 Do you think JG could have come back and beaten the Falcons two years ago? I know for a fact Peyton Manning wouldn’t have. He had his chance for one against the Seahawks when his team was down big, (and that was mostly because he stunk and choked like a dog when the going got tough). Instead of manning (pun intended) up, he curled up in the fetal position and put his thumb in his mouth. That’s because he was never that great.

    No there is only one QB that ever played this sport can make that comeback…and that would be YOUR reigning NFL MVP. 🙂 The GOAT without a doubt.

    Also, people also called Montana a system QB and some still do. I’m sure you’re right that a lot of it is trolling but that term being used to describe Brady is just an admission that they know absolutely nothing about the NFL or the sport. That’s all it is.

    #PoorArgumentBusted
    #TryAgain

  35. We saw Peyton Manning take two different teams to 2 Super Bowls respectively, winning 1 each. I doubt Brady would do the same.
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    Ya you’re probably right I doubt he would do the same too. I say he’d win 2 each.

    🙂

  36. @Braz

    Your argument has bigger holes in in than that boat in the Flexseal commercial.

    Your comment that Brady isn’t great because a GENERATION of fans who’s team has lost to him say “dunk and dunk” and “2 yard Tom” is some sort of proof that he’s not in the argument for best of all time? The statistics certainly don’t bear that out, but I understand you need to feel better about all the losses. Even if it were—remember—WINNING football games is the objective, not always taking low-percentage shots downfield. The trash heap of history is full of guys like that. Brady always does what’s needed to accomplish the best executed game plan, and stat book glory is not the goal. If it’s go deep, go deep. If it’s dink and dunk, then that’s the plan. Football is full of stubborn coaches, players, and teams who don’t get that.

    Based on your 7-8 posts on each Patriots thread, (and your unwillingness to reveal which team you represent as a fan—no doubt one that the Pats have demolished for years I’m sure) you’re hardly objective. Experts agree. Players and coaches (past and present) agree. You’re witnessing greatness. Better and longer than anyone else. I’ll go with that rather than the 10 couch-jockeys that mutter foolish things like “air-pressure” and “system” comments. Belichick has never made NFL-speed reads or executed a pass in his life. Also, what does it matter where someone is drafted? There’s countless high picks who never made a dent in the league. It’s the draft—nothing more and nothing less. It’s what you do when you get to the pros, not what you did in school. When part of your argument is, “oh yeah? Well he was drafted in the 6th round, so…” you come off as silly if you really believe that means anything at all.

    You’ve clearly suffered some severe losing to Brady and the Pats. I’d hate them as much as you if I were on the other side of it I’m guessing. Just a couple more years and you’ll be free of it. It’ll be alright.

  37. he is the greatest coach and gm in history. in a league full of phonies and cliche spouting wannabes, he is the real deal. blunt but consistent and honest.

  38. I hate Brady…and I think your argument has gaping holes. SB comebacks vs STL, ATL. Your using Peyton was laughable – you really think he was reason Denver won?

    CUNNINGHAM??? You mean Randall?!?! I am a monster Eagles fan…there’s no way on Earth, or any planet in any solar system that I would put him in front of Tom Brady. That argument alone disqualifies you from having any one pay attention to you.

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