Kirk Cousins “salty” about a bad practice on Wednesday

AP

It’s good that the Vikings won’t be scrapping the last workout of their offseason program. Their new quarterback thinks he needs it.

Kirk Cousins wasn’t pleased with his performance on Wednesday, the second day of a three-day minicamp.

I was pretty salty walking off the field,” Cousins said, via Chris Tomasson of the St. Paul Pioneer Press. “I’m really frustrated. I do not want to walk into the summer with a bad taste in my mouth about practice, so hopefully we can finish really strong [Thursday] and be feeling good going into the summer.

“Even one bad decision in practice kind of bothers me all afternoon, and I can be a bit of a grouch when I go home.”

The salt came from a third-down red-zone drill during which Cousins threw two interceptions in three plays.

But there’s a silver lining; Cousins is learning through trial and error what he can’t do.

“On the first one, I just couldn’t get all the way through the throw, so the ball died on me,” Cousins said. “The second one, I was testing things a little bit and trying to see what I could get away with, and I learned pretty quickly that I can’t get away with that throw. . . . Some of the beauty of (spring drills) is that you can test and experiment. . . . You’ve just got to learn from them.”

The learning continues into training camp, with Cousins still having plenty of time to get up to speed with his new teammates and his new offense as the Vikings try to build on what they did in 2017. And it’s still not clear what will count as success in 2018.

Ultimately, it’s not realistic to except the Vikings to at least get back to the NFC title game, especially since that’s something they’ve accomplished only six times in the last 40 years.

118 responses to “Kirk Cousins “salty” about a bad practice on Wednesday

  1. He is playing against the best defense he has ever practiced against. This should be good for him.

  2. How this guy became the beat all / end all dude I’ll never know.
    He isn’t that good, many team wanted him, and he got paid.
    Maybe it’s his Prima Donna attitude……

  3. Cousins seems good at analyzing what he’s doing. Maybe some day Aaron can analyze like that, too. Until that happens, we’ll always have Hail Marys.

  4. I’m just not a fan… As a resident of his hometown, let me say this, a guy who just got an 80 million deal, when he is visiting his hometown, and bringing a group to a restaurant, while acting like a big deal, should probably tip his server. I don’t like that Kirk. True story…

  5. It is still a lot better having him blame himself for bad throws, than to throw his receivers under the bus like some QB’s in the Division do.

  6. Maybe you should hock some more cornball t-shirts. Every dollar counts, Kirk (even though we all know it was never about the $$$, buddy)!

  7. I’m not too worried about a couple interceptions during a June practice when you’re testing and experimenting with different things, but I know a certain fanbase will latch onto this to feed their hopes and dreams that Cousins will somehow play worse than he ever has in his career now that he’s on the best team he’s ever been on.

  8. Kirk Cousins is a good QB, and didn’t often struggle to move the ball down the field with the Redskins. With that being said, red zone efficiency has always been his achilles heel.

  9. The Vikings got a good glimpse of they guy they paid for. They are already feeling the buyers’ remorse and wishing they kept Keenum.

  10. Captain Kirk revolutionized negotiating practices in the NFL…Players who complain about their salary 3 years into a 5 year contract (Julio Jones) better take note!!!

    First and foremost, when your deal ends, your value per year begins with the average total of 2 franchise tags…this is exactly how Kirk approached Washington! Second…only sign 2 or 3 year deals!

    That concludes today’s lesson. Thanks Capt. Kirk!!!

  11. It’s become a rite of summer, watching Vikings fans convince themselves that THIS is the year

    Then the games start, and we get to watch them come crashing back to earth, again. And we wonder, how can they ever recover from such soul-crushing, ignominious defeat? And like magic, summer rolls around and they are back to outlandish claims of greatness and imminent dynasties

  12. minnesoulja says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:09 am
    He is playing against the best defense he has ever practiced against. This should be good for him.

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    You mean that “best defense” that got throttled by the Saints in the second half and the entire game in Philly? Didn’t look so hot. It’s easy to look like world beaters playing GB twice without Rodgers, the Bears twice with a rookie QB, Detroit, and the likes of Cleveland, Cincinnati, Baltimore.

  13. Athans Sports Talk says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:34 am
    How this guy threw for 4,000 yards 3 years in a row, while losing his top receivers, and people still call him trash is beyond me.

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    Simple, every QB in the league throws for lots of yards. The game is set up that way now. QB’s, especially ones paid like Cousins, are judged by wins, playoff wins, championships and clutch performances. Cousins hasn’t measured up to being elite when you look at those. I don’t think he’s trash, I just don’t think he’s elite.

  14. Wisconsin’s Favorite Son Jeffrey Be Dahmed says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:16 am
    Cousins seems good at analyzing what he’s doing. Maybe some day Aaron can analyze like that, too. Until that happens, we’ll always have Hail Marys.

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    While you’re analyzing, please analyze Aaron’s career versus Cousins’.

  15. Kirk is finding out how it goes on this team. Zims team is there to work and get better at every practice and every play. Competition at every level is the Vikings MO. He won’t find any easy throws until they play other teams.

  16. “Ultimately, it’s not realistic to except the Vikings to at least get back to the NFC title game, especially since that’s something they’ve accomplished only six times in the last 40 years.”

    ***Here’s 30 million reasons why it should be realistic. Market value or not, you don’t hand that kind of money out and not expect to win a SB. Hell, I wouldn’t want a player on my team that didn’t aspire to win the damn SB. I’m glad you said it Mike, because if that was uttered by anyone in the organization/team I support, those god awful prices they charge for everything with the shield on it would never see my dollars again.

  17. Athans Sports Talk says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:34 am
    How this guy threw for 4,000 yards 3 years in a row, while losing his top receivers, and people still call him trash is beyond me.

    He’s called trash by people who don’t understand the game and believe wins and losses are all on the QB. The only positive thing the Skins had the past 3 years was their passing game. Last year they lost so many starters to FA and injury on offense including multiple players on the Oline for a few games and yet Cousins still played at a high level. The guy gets no credit and it’s simply because of the W/L record which isn’t his fault. The Vikings signed him because he’s a top ten caliber QB who has done a lot with very little to this point in his career.

  18. What’s being attempted here really is kind of risky. We’re going to bring in Derek Carr and along with that Norv Turner for the sake of comparison. In this case it was the flavor of the year DiFillipo. A top half in the league quarterback and an offensive coordinator who’s been at it for less than 4 years. Throw that into the pot and stir and hope it all functions when the bullets are flying for real. Good luck Barneys!

  19. nhpats says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:44 am
    The Vikings got a good glimpse of they guy they paid for. They are already feeling the buyers’ remorse and wishing they kept Keenum.
    —————

    But Case Keenum had a losing record not just to winning teams, but as a starting QB prior to joining the Vikings…how can he be any good?

  20. “Cousins seems good at analyzing what he’s doing.”

    Cousins has some pretty good stats on some pretty losing teams. Just remembering posts by WAS fans saying he’ll throw the killer interception at key times in games. Haven’t watched him enough to know if he’s that kind of heartbreaker, but if he’s throwing picks while in shorts and no real defense is being played, he better be good at analyzing. Not just analyzing, but fixing it.

  21. “Maybe some day Aaron can analyze like that, too. Until that happens, we’ll always have Hail Marys.”

    The guy with the highest career rating in the history of the NFL is pretty good at analyzing his own play. The Hail Mary’s are just the icing on the cake.

  22. minnesoulja says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:09 am
    He is playing against the best defense he has ever practiced against. This should be good for him.
    ________________________________________________________________________________________________________
    You do realize we all watched the NFC championship game, right?
    As for Cousins, good not great QB but certainly someone you can win with. However, he does not like pressure at all. No QB does, but he responds very poorly to it. With his two games against the Eagles last year.

  23. I’m just not a fan… As a resident of his hometown, let me say this, a guy who just got an 80 million deal, when he is visiting his hometown, and bringing a group to a restaurant, while acting like a big deal, should probably tip his server. I don’t like that Kirk. True story…
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    Maybe the food tasted a little salty…………..

  24. Viking fans will soon be salty after seeing their offense was completely overhauled and their QB position was downgraded significantly.

  25. dmca12 says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:57 am
    Athans Sports Talk says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:34 am
    How this guy threw for 4,000 yards 3 years in a row, while losing his top receivers, and people still call him trash is beyond me.

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    Simple, every QB in the league throws for lots of yards. The game is set up that way now. QB’s, especially ones paid like Cousins, are judged by wins, playoff wins, championships and clutch performances. Cousins hasn’t measured up to being elite when you look at those. I don’t think he’s trash, I just don’t think he’s elite.

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    No, not every QB throws for lots of yards, look at the Vikings QBs…You want to look at wins? How about Vince Young and Tebow? Case Keenum took the Vikings to the NFC Championship game, and Teddy was a missed FG away from doing the same thing. Would you pay Case or Teddy more than Cousins? What about Matt Ryan? How many SB does he have? Aaron Rodgers, arguably the best QB in football, how many SBs? 1? The only QB actually winning on a regular basis is Brady, and he makes what, 15 mil a year? Kirk is what you call a franchise QB. The going rate for a franchise QB is 26 mil a year, look at Jimmy G and Matt Ryan.

  26. sceaglesfan says:

    June 14, 2018 at 12:26 pm

    minnesoulja says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:09 am
    He is playing against the best defense he has ever practiced against. This should be good for him.
    ________________________________________________________________________________________________________
    You do realize we all watched the NFC championship game, right?
    As for Cousins, good not great QB but certainly someone you can win with. However, he does not like pressure at all. No QB does, but he responds very poorly to it. With his two games against the Eagles last year.

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    You do realize one bad game doesn’t mean the Vikings defense is bad? Right? They also kept good teams over the course of the year down on the score board.

  27. dmca12 says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:55 am

    minnesoulja says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:09 am
    He is playing against the best defense he has ever practiced against. This should be good for him.

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    You mean that “best defense” that got throttled by the Saints in the second half and the entire game in Philly? Didn’t look so hot. It’s easy to look like world beaters playing GB twice without Rodgers, the Bears twice with a rookie QB, Detroit, and the likes of Cleveland, Cincinnati, Baltimore.
    ___________

    You can argue about the Vikings having the best defense in the NFL if you want, but your argument here is that the Vikings don’t even have the best defense Cousins has ever practiced against. The only other NFL defense he’s practiced against is the Redskins’. That defense has ranked between 18th and 28th each of the years Cousins has been on the team. Are you seriously saying the Redskins have had a better defense in the last six years than the one the Vikings are putting on the field now?

  28. dmca12 says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:57 am
    Athans Sports Talk says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:34 am
    How this guy threw for 4,000 yards 3 years in a row, while losing his top receivers, and people still call him trash is beyond me.
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    Simple, every QB in the league throws for lots of yards. The game is set up that way now. QB’s, especially ones paid like Cousins, are judged by wins, playoff wins, championships and clutch performances. Cousins hasn’t measured up to being elite when you look at those. I don’t think he’s trash, I just don’t think he’s elite.

    Simply not accurate. Only 8 QB’s broke the 4000 yard barrier last season and the year before when he had a healthy offense around him, Cousins almost hit 5000. If QB’s are judged by wins and losses then you’d have to say Rivers and Brees aren’t elite as both had multiple seasons of losing records before last year. Wins and losses are a team stat. The best QB’s in the league don’t win unless they have a good team around them. I don’t know if Cousins is an elite QB either, but putting up the numbers he did on a bad team tells me he is capable if he has a better team around him which he will in Minnesota.

  29. wcman says:
    June 14, 2018 at 12:05 pm
    Athans Sports Talk says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:34 am
    How this guy threw for 4,000 yards 3 years in a row, while losing his top receivers, and people still call him trash is beyond me.

    He’s called trash by people who don’t understand the game and believe wins and losses are all on the QB. The only positive thing the Skins had the past 3 years was their passing game. Last year they lost so many starters to FA and injury on offense including multiple players on the Oline for a few games and yet Cousins still played at a high level. The guy gets no credit and it’s simply because of the W/L record which isn’t his fault. The Vikings signed him because he’s a top ten caliber QB who has done a lot with very little to this point in his career

    ______________________
    He’s not that good pal… Garbage time yards playing from behind at the end of games against prevent defenses is meaningless… There’s more to it than reading a stat line especially when that stat line was created because the defense was letting you build up your numbers at the end of the game…a good qb finds a way to win

  30. Oh, horrors! A QB threw two picks in [*GASP!*] PRACTICE!! The sky is falling, check the waiver wire! Who can we trade for? Cut him, put in Sloter! Anything!

    Geez. Get a grip.

  31. He’ll be fine come opening day. This is a good time to sync with receivers. I see no issue with any of this.

  32. Denver fan here. I am fine with Case & think he will at least take us to the playoffs. In the offseason, I was hoping for 1. Alex Smith 2. Case 3. Baker Mayfield. I am fine with #2 and I am going to guess that Kirk will be a bust. Not a bad player, but not the answer. Otherwise why didn’t Washington go all in? Why did they pick Alex over him? Only time will tell and as usual should be a fun season.

  33. “ducks4remi says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:30 am
    2 INTs in three red zone plays. Sounds about right for $84mil guaranteed”

    _________________________

    Yeah, $84M just doesn’t buy you what it used to.

  34. It is way too early to be calling the signing of Cousins a success or failure, and yet I see people making this decision based on mini-camp performances? Really?

  35. stiffarm13 says:

    June 14, 2018 at 1:01 pm

    wcman says:
    June 14, 2018 at 12:05 pm
    Athans Sports Talk says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:34 am
    How this guy threw for 4,000 yards 3 years in a row, while losing his top receivers, and people still call him trash is beyond me.

    He’s called trash by people who don’t understand the game and believe wins and losses are all on the QB. The only positive thing the Skins had the past 3 years was their passing game. Last year they lost so many starters to FA and injury on offense including multiple players on the Oline for a few games and yet Cousins still played at a high level. The guy gets no credit and it’s simply because of the W/L record which isn’t his fault. The Vikings signed him because he’s a top ten caliber QB who has done a lot with very little to this point in his career

    ______________________
    He’s not that good pal… Garbage time yards playing from behind at the end of games against prevent defenses is meaningless… There’s more to it than reading a stat line especially when that stat line was created because the defense was letting you build up your numbers at the end of the game…a good qb finds a way to win

    ———————-

    Did Drew Brees find a way when the Saints missed the playoffs 3 years in a row (same amount of time Kirk has started), because the Saints had a bad defense? I guess Drew Brees is a bad QB to.

  36. Don’t think a lot of you understand June minicamp practices…

    First of all, you have a defensive unit that has been together for a number of years competing against a new QB, OC and system. Never mind that it usually isn’t until around week 3 of the regular season that the offense really finds the upper hand in practice and on the field.

    Last, and to no fault to readers because it wasn’t reported in this article, Zimmer spoke yesterday about how his defense was calling audibles on the field —audibles they haven’t introduced to the whole team at this point in the offseason— in drills where they really shouldn’t have been. If Viking fans want to gripe about something, gripe about how their over-competitiveness is stunting the growth of the team as a whole. This is a time or fundamentals, synchronization and learning; not showmanship in shorts.

    Kirk takes responsibility for the fault because that’s what good leaders do when they make mistakes. Even if it turns out he stinks, know he’ll at least take the blow. #FML2ATL

  37. bfallona says:
    June 14, 2018 at 1:37 pm
    Denver fan here. I am fine with Case & think he will at least take us to the playoffs. In the offseason, I was hoping for 1. Alex Smith 2. Case 3. Baker Mayfield. I am fine with #2 and I am going to guess that Kirk will be a bust. Not a bad player, but not the answer. Otherwise why didn’t Washington go all in? Why did they pick Alex over him? Only time will tell and as usual should be a fun season.

    Washington is renowned for its ability to evaluate and pay talent. I mean they hardly ever miss when they sign big name players and never let good players walk. That’s why they’ve been so competitive for so long. They were great until Cousins got there and made them horrifically mediocre. Clearly, if Washington didn’t pay up, he must be bad.

    I mean, Keenum and Alex Smth had many more teams trying to trade for and sign them. That’s why they got paid so much more than Cousins…

  38. stiffarm13 says:
    June 14, 2018 at 1:01 pm
    He’s not that good pal… Garbage time yards playing from behind at the end of games against prevent defenses is meaningless… There’s more to it than reading a stat line especially when that stat line was created because the defense was letting you build up your numbers at the end of the game…a good qb finds a way to win

    I didn’t base my opinion on a stat line and if you truly watched the games, you’d know this point you made is garbage because the Skins were in most of their games almost solely based on the passing game. This was a team with bottom third rankings everywhere but in the passing game. They were decimated by injuries last season and Cousins still played at a high level.

    As for your second point: pretty much every other top QB hasn’t found a way to win when they haven’t had a good team around them more often than not. Your standard is unrealistic and not supported by the facts.

  39. skolol says:

    June 14, 2018 at 11:46 am

    Get used to it. 4th best QB in the division.

    ————————

    What a joke. He is not worst than the QB in Chicago. And is he worst than Stafford? Is he? Is he really? Both put up huge numbers and have a losing record. Both have no playoff wins (Stafford has had more chances), so how exactly is Cousin’s the 4th best in the NFC North? The only obvious answer is Rodgers is the best.

  40. dmca12 says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:55 am
    minnesoulja says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:09 am
    He is playing against the best defense he has ever practiced against. This should be good for him.

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    You mean that “best defense” that got throttled by the Saints in the second half and the entire game in Philly? Didn’t look so hot. It’s easy to look like world beaters playing GB twice without Rodgers, the Bears twice with a rookie QB, Detroit, and the likes of Cleveland, Cincinnati, Baltimore.

    /////////

    You forgot wins over The Rams, Falcons and almost pulled out a win in Carolina – Vikes can’t help who makes up the schedule and even if Rodgers was healthy, The Vikes would have went at least 1-1 maybe even 2-0. Besides that was last year – it doesn’t matter one bit now.

    They drafted for more depth on defense to be able to rotate and play different schemes and to have fresh legs. That D that got “throttled” will still be a top 5 defense this year. In all the D played 5 quarters of bad football – of course us Vikes fans believe in a team concept and that one person doesn’t make a team. We learned that from the AD era and Packers fans will learn as well – one man team – Stop Aaron Rodgers you stop the pack

  41. It’s way too early to be concerned that the Vikings signed the wrong QB. That feeling will come soon enough, I’m guessing about Week 2 of the regular season but Cousins has a way of surprising you so he could stink it up on opening day. Either way, $84 million guaranteed will be an oft-repeated phrase in the newspapers this fall.

  42. wcman says:
    June 14, 2018 at 12:05 pm
    Athans Sports Talk says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:34 am
    How this guy threw for 4,000 yards 3 years in a row, while losing his top receivers, and people still call him trash is beyond me.

    He’s called trash by people who don’t understand the game and believe wins and losses are all on the QB.
    ___________________________

    Be very care where you tread here.
    Though that’s a reasonable judgement, it would be considered blasphemy in just about every single corner of Barneyland.

    Their belief that the only reason Green Bay has been able to sustain their ability to win over the last 26 years is simply because of the QBs that’ve basically fallen into their laps.
    Never giving them fulll credit for acquiring and developing the talent for maintaining that huge amount of success.

    It helps them sleep better at night if they can just rationalize the disappointment in their own team by equating the Packers with winning the lottery!

  43. I keep hearing people say Kirk Cousins isn’t a winner. The Redskins were 3-13 in 2013 and 4-12 in 2014. Then Cousins became the starter in 2015 and they went 9-7 and made the playoffs. What exactly are people expecting?

  44. wafflestomp says:
    June 14, 2018 at 3:48 pm

    Their belief that the only reason Green Bay has been able to sustain their ability to win over the last 26 years is simply because of the QBs that’ve basically fallen into their laps.
    Never giving them fulll credit for acquiring and developing the talent for maintaining that huge amount of success.
    ________

    No doubt the Packers have had good talent when they won those Super Bowls. Nobody wins a Super Bowl just because of the quarterback. But that’s getting to be a long time ago. For the last several years, the Packers have been Rodgers and not much else. Since 2013, the Packers are 5-12-1 without Rodgers, and those wins and the tie were against terrible teams and by slim margins. The results are plain to see so I don’t think you can keep bragging about acquiring and developing talent.

  45. “The salt you taste, are the tears from Lambeau Field”.

    Yes the tears are from laughing at the guaranteed contact for a guy who’s a pretty good QB everywhere but the red zone and at key times late in games.

  46. Well, let’s see, the Viking D has been together for 4 years and can communicate with each other by a look. The offense is being freshly installed with a new OC and QB. What a shock the offense is playing catch up. But the dividend will be when facing rookie backfields (sound familiar, GB?) and their relatively simplistic defense that Kirk can rip apart after figuring out the nuances of the #1 defense in the NFL last year. SKOL VIKINGS, NFC NORTH CHAMPIONS!

  47. I heard Aaron Rodgers is salty about the pool side service his is getting right now during his vacation from Packers practice. They brought him the wrong color umbrella in his drink.

  48. whatjusthapped says:
    June 14, 2018 at 3:46 pm
    It’s way too early to be concerned that the Vikings signed the wrong QB. That feeling will come soon enough, I’m guessing about Week 2 of the regular season but Cousins has a way of surprising you so he could stink it up on opening day. Either way, $84 million guaranteed will be an oft-repeated phrase in the newspapers this fall.
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    Kirk sure didn’t stink it up when he dropped 375yds and 3 TDs against your team in 2016 in a 42-24 loss for the Packas.
    But hey, at least he won’t be playing with studs like Kelley, Garçon and Crowder. Or that Redskin defense riddled with pro bowlers and all pros.

  49. Preseason is where you are supposed to make mistakes.

    Every preseason in Washington that the Great Gimmick played, he was near perfect.

    When the games counted, he compiled a 12 win, 21 loss record in games he managed to start and finish in Washington.

  50. Not to kick sand at anyone, but you can’t help but think, buyer beware, here.

    With Quarterbacks at such a premium in today’s game that most GMs are willing to sell their very souls to get a serviceable one, you have to wonder why the Redskins were ok with washing their hands of him?
    I mean, they had ample opportunity to test drive him and obviously to observe his leadership skills and work ethic.
    But, they were still more than happy going into a completely different direction.

    And when his big chance finally came and he got his crack at free agency only the Jets and Vikings came calling.
    It just seems a bit aodd and if you aren’t asking yourselves the same questions, you’ve simply got your head stuck in the sand.

  51. Case Keenum is a great leader but couldn’t get the deep throws. In the NFCCG there were guys wide open deep that if he’d just gotten the ball off it was a TD. He didn’t have the ability. Now Cousins does have that arm strength. Does he have the leadership? Sure sounds like he’s trying too. Now if DeFilippo can keep his mistakes down they could potentially be an explosive offense like 1998.

  52. Athans Sports Talk says:

    Would you pay Case or Teddy more than Cousins? What about Matt Ryan? How many SB does he have? Aaron Rodgers, arguably the best QB in football, how many SBs? 1? The only QB actually winning on a regular basis is Brady, and he makes what, 15 mil a year? Kirk is what you call a franchise QB.
    ________

    Except in Washington who had EVERY chance to keep him, and saw how he worked every day… and decided he wasn’t worth it. TRUE Franchise QBs that are healthy, aren’t allowed to leave town, because a team won’t give that up and take the regression, thats why guys like Big Ben, Tom Brady, and Rodgers keep getting locked up Occasionally injury concerns will cause a team to move on from a QB like Brees with Chargers, and Culpepper in Minnesota.

    I understand starting QBs are expensive, but Cousins, is right there with Andy Dalton, if Dalton left Cinci there would be teams that need a better QB that would snap him up in a heartbeat, and maybe even overpay for him, but he isn’t the guy thats going to get you over the hump.

  53. aj66shanghai says:

    It’s become a rite of summer, watching Vikings fans convince themselves that THIS is the year

    *****

    Really? We’re convinced this is the year? I’ve been reading PFT (most the Vikings stories) and know the ‘regular’ posters quite well. Can’t recall any of them writing that, unless it’s to jazz a Packer fan. GB trolls? You’re not our rival. Philly trolls? We’ll see. OK? We will see.

    True fans of the team instead wonder when Cousins’ leg will snap, someone lights our defensive starter on fire or when a bus will run over our head coach. If nothing crazy or unexpected happens, I like this team’s chances to succeed.

  54. I catch myself wondering what in the world all you hating fans of other teams are doing reading these articles and comment threads. I don’t ever find myself on packers forums talking trash about how awful that team is outside qb. Or now I’m not on Broncos threads telling their fans that they’re gonna have buyers remorse for keenum. I Think it just shows the amount of class you fans have. First, stop talking about how the Vikings fans are gonna find ourselves in some familiar position after a couple weeks into the season all depressed. Pretty sure we went 13-3 last year against some very good teams. We have won the north 2 of the last 3 years, and last year we flat dominated you all with a journeyman qb who had looked horrible until then and turned him into an MVP candidate. Might have something to do with the team and coaching to get him there, not his talent. Second, stop acting like we will have some buyers remorse or that we should’ve kept keenum. Cousins is an obvious upgrade, if nothing else he is an upgrade in consistent qb play. Something we have been winning in spite of not having. Pretty soon that 84 million dollar deal won’t look all that bad when it gets eclipsed by the one you packers fans are gonna have to stomach. Something the rest of you clearly don’t understand either is that while maybe cousins to some teams isn’t really that great of a deal, but cousins to Minnesota is a great signing considering the top to bottom talent of the entire team without having anyone at that specific position. It makes both Minnesota and cousins miles better than they already were because of the need of the team and the rise in talent the player will see in the team around him. And third, Washington fans or those critical of cousins, how stupid can you be to think that win loss records of any kind are the measure of a qb. One of you up there literally said that qbs are totally measured on their regular season and playoff record. That’s the most ludacris thing I have ever heard in my life. This is the ultimate team sport and you want to sit there and act like a single player, dependent on every single player around them, is souly responsible for the record of his team and should be carrying a record as if he was a starting pitcher? No qb has that kind of control over the team around him. You can be the best in the world and have no oline and defense and not win a single game. You all are embarrassing yourselves by either looking bitter, jealous, or scared based on the way you’re acting like Minnesota is a done deal to be a losing team somehow after being so good last year and losing no one and gaining 2 great players at 2 important positions. You just sound worried to me. How bout you all start winning games or try to do something before you start mouthing off at us. Cause as it stands, you’re all looking up at us right now. Keep mouthing about how bad we were in the NFCCG, cause at least we were good enough to get there. Haha where were your teams that time of year?

  55. wafflestomp says:
    June 14, 2018 at 8:17 pm
    Not to kick sand at anyone, but you can’t help but think, buyer beware, here.

    With Quarterbacks at such a premium in today’s game that most GMs are willing to sell their very souls to get a serviceable one, you have to wonder why the Redskins were ok with washing their hands of him?
    I mean, they had ample opportunity to test drive him and obviously to observe his leadership skills and work ethic.
    But, they were still more than happy going into a completely different direction.
    ———————————

    Here’s a better question. Why didn’t Allen offer him a fair contract earlier or trade him instead of alienating him and his agent? Instead he paid him $44 million for 2 years under the franchise tag then got nothing. Cousins gambled with injury and it paid off. There was no way Cousins was going to sign a contract with Allen involved. The Redskins front office is a joke and Cousins wanted out plain and simple.

    And when his big chance finally came and he got his crack at free agency only the Jets and Vikings came calling.
    It just seems a bit aodd and if you aren’t asking yourselves the same questions, you’ve simply got your head stuck in the sand.
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  56. As a Skins fan I’ll tell you how Cousins threw for 4,000 yards each season. He had no real running game the entire time he played in Washington. We must have gone through 10 last year, can you name them all? It has been so bad that on 3rd and 1 we passed the ball more than we tried to run. Inside the red zone it was the same. It seems we really only ran the ball to keep defenses honest. Kirk never had a good defense here and was often playing from behind. Passing the ball was really the only option!

  57. The Vikings have had ProBowl caliber play at the quarterback position three years in a row. I’m waiting to see what kind of a vast improvement is expected with Cousins. I’d be more apt to expect an increased overall offensive performance by the Vikings due to Cook than Cousins. If Cook exceeds expectations, then Keenum would’ve done just fine and a lot cheaper. It wasn’t broke, but they fixed it anyway.

  58. stellarperformance says:

    June 15, 2018 at 12:01 pm

    The Vikings have had ProBowl caliber play at the quarterback position three years in a row. I’m waiting to see what kind of a vast improvement is expected with Cousins. I’d be more apt to expect an increased overall offensive performance by the Vikings due to Cook than Cousins. If Cook exceeds expectations, then Keenum would’ve done just fine and a lot cheaper. It wasn’t broke, but they fixed it anyway.

    ————

    I don’t think they are expecting a huge improvement from Case Keenum (Last year only) in Cousin’s. Case went 13-3 and had a really good rating. It’s hard to top that. I think they got Cousin’s more to increase the odds of that QB play continuing, than asking for “way better”. Case Keenum played good, but he has played many year at not a good level. Cousin’s has more history and tape. I agree Cook could make the bigger difference.

  59. I’m bookmarking this article so in the future we can go back in time and cite all the Pack fans “elite football minds” and how they analyzed Cousins response to a bad offensive series DURING MINI CAMP.

    What is funny and ironic, is that if Cousins had a spectacular day of practice, so spectacular that it brought grown men to their knees, weeping at the greatness they have seen, Packer fans would make the usual “OH ERG HUMMM THERE YA GO. BARNEY FANS PREDICTING SUPERBOWLS AGAIN. ERRGH HERRM HUMMM. LOL. NO SUPERBOWLS.”

  60. Now that OTAs are over I guess Aaron Rodgers will be starting his summer vacation fresh off his OTAs vacation. When will his training camp vacation be this year? The 2nd week as usual?

  61. 13worldchampioinships says:

    June 15, 2018 at 12:24 pm

    I’m bookmarking this article so in the future we can go back in time and cite all the Pack fans “elite football minds” and how they analyzed Cousins response to a bad offensive series DURING MINI CAMP.

    What is funny and ironic, is that if Cousins had a spectacular day of practice, so spectacular that it brought grown men to their knees, weeping at the greatness they have seen, Packer fans would make the usual “OH ERG HUMMM THERE YA GO. BARNEY FANS PREDICTING SUPERBOWLS AGAIN. ERRGH HERRM HUMMM. LOL. NO SUPERBOWLS.”

    —————

    I know right? I don’t know really any Vikings fans predicting a Superbowl but yet Packer fans say we are. Is it wrong to be excited about your team without being blasted for having high hopes? This team should be good, but nothing is a given. Vikings should be optimistic, but yet humbled over a terrible NFC Championship appearance.

  62. cheeseisfattening says:
    June 15, 2018 at 12:26 pm
    Now that OTAs are over I guess Aaron Rodgers will be starting his summer vacation fresh off his OTAs vacation. When will his training camp vacation be this year? The 2nd week as usual?
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    Yes, the second week will be like a vacation for him. The second week of the regular season. Is that what you meant?

  63. Yes, the second week will be like a vacation for him. The second week of the regular season. Is that what you meant?
    —-
    Clearly I was talking about the vacations he takes during training camp but yes I am sure he would like to take another vacation the 2nd week of the season this year so he can avoid Minnesota’s defense. Rodgers may be arrogant and treats his teammates, coaches and family badly but he is not dumb

  64. cheeseisfattening says:

    June 15, 2018 at 12:46 pm

    Yes, the second week will be like a vacation for him. The second week of the regular season. Is that what you meant?
    —-
    Clearly I was talking about the vacations he takes during training camp but yes I am sure he would like to take another vacation the 2nd week of the season this year so he can avoid Minnesota’s defense. Rodgers may be arrogant and treats his teammates, coaches and family badly but he is not dumb

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    If anyone can take a few vacations and still be good it’s Aaron Rodgers. Until he starts to suck we can’t say anything.

  65. chillyball says:
    June 15, 2018 at 2:07 pm
    Ha ha ha! I’m still predicting 9-7 for the Vikings. They should have NEVER traded for this joker.

    #skol
    #overrated

    ***

    LOL at the fact you think the Vikings traded for him.

  66. stellarperformance says:
    June 15, 2018 at 12:01 pm

    The Vikings have had ProBowl caliber play at the quarterback position three years in a row. I’m waiting to see what kind of a vast improvement is expected with Cousins. I’d be more apt to expect an increased overall offensive performance by the Vikings due to Cook than Cousins. If Cook exceeds expectations, then Keenum would’ve done just fine and a lot cheaper. It wasn’t broke, but they fixed it anyway.
    _________

    I am so sick of this “ProBowl caliber play at the quarterback position three years in a row” canard. The only Viking quarterback to make the Pro Bowl in the last three years was Bridgewater, as an injury replacement, after he threw 14 TD passes. I think he did a lot of good things and had a lot of potential before he got hurt, but nobody considers that Pro Bowl caliber play. You’re the same guy who used to rip him for his perceived deficiencies but now you talk him up to support this ridiculous argument.

    Bradford put up some pretty statistics in 2016 in terms of completion percentage and TD:INT ratio, but anyone who was watching could see that he was going to his checkdown as his first read because he knew he was going to get killed behind that offensive line. He did not make the Pro Bowl and was not close to it.

    Keenum had a great year last year and probably deserved to go to the Pro Bowl but he didn’t make it. His deficiencies have been well documented and we wish him well but he hasn’t shown consistently high performance throughout his career. If you have a chance to win a Super Bowl, you go with the guy who is more likely to give you the level of play that you need. Cousins has been more consistent so he’s less of a risk. If they would have kept Keenum and he regressed, you would be the first person on here to say they should have signed Cousins.

  67. Here’s a better question. Why didn’t Allen offer him a fair contract earlier or trade him instead of alienating him and his agent?
    __________

    They wanted to make sure he was worth whay he waa asking for, and truat me whay agents and players think of aa “fair” conpared to GMs and team repa is very different.

    Stats are nice, but the Vikings are a team whom arguably had the most athletic RB in NFL history put up huge numbers, but also, at WR with Moss. Kirk needa to do better against tougher teams, and regardkeaa of who hes playing vs.not turn it over in the red zone.

  68. shaggytoodle says:
    June 15, 2018 at 3:40 pm
    Here’s a better question. Why didn’t Allen offer him a fair contract earlier or trade him instead of alienating him and his agent?
    __________

    They wanted to make sure he was worth whay he waa asking for, and truat me whay agents and players think of aa “fair” conpared to GMs and team repa is very different.

    Stats are nice, but the Vikings are a team whom arguably had the most athletic RB in NFL history put up huge numbers, but also, at WR with Moss. Kirk needa to do better against tougher teams, and regardkeaa of who hes playing vs.not turn it over in the red zone.
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    Packers fans say they arguably have one of the greatest QBs of all time yet he has only one SB and probably won’t win the division for the rest of his career. So which is it, does the QB make the team or the team make the QB? I guess your QB should probably play better against good teams too.

  69. Cousins helped his team win 7 games as a starter, Rodgers won 4 as a starter last year and played in 9 fewer games.

    Instead of worrying about what Packer fans think maybe ask some Wash. Fans what they think

  70. I’m a Vikings fan through and through but the fact that Washington just walked away from this guy puts a little doubt in my mind. They gave him the reigns. I hope he proves everyone wrong but he’s in a tough spot, he has to lead this team to the NFC title game and either win the game or come close to winning the game for this year to be a success.

  71. shaggytoodle says:
    June 15, 2018 at 4:20 pm

    Cousins helped his team win 7 games as a starter, Rodgers won 4 as a starter last year and played in 9 fewer games.
    _________

    Cousins is a good, solid starter in the NFL. Rodgers is a miracle worker.

  72. Kirk is learning quick that if he can play against this defense, he can play against ANY defense. Good experience for him–Zimmer won’t be easy on him. He’ll be ready Week 1.

  73. I could care less what Redskin fans think. I know what Packer fans think. They are scared to death that the Vikings may have the offense to match their defense and it shows in the mental gymnastics they do talking themselves into thinking Cousins won’t do anything great. But in the back of their tiny minds they know what it might be.

  74. chillyball says:
    June 15, 2018 at 2:07 pm
    Ha ha ha! I’m still predicting 9-7 for the Vikings. They should have NEVER traded for this joker.

    //////////////////////

    Really chillyball

  75. Lutefiskisfattening says:
    June 15, 2018 at 6:25 pm
    No one cares.

    Until the Vikings win a Super Bowl, they are as irrelevant as their moronic fanbase.
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    Hey Stella, Lutefisk is not fattening. But all the butter I put on it is fattening. You can’t eat it without melted butter and lots of it. Just FYI.

  76. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    June 15, 2018 at 4:59 pm
    Drew Brees helped his team win 7 games as a starter three years in a row from 2014-16.

    He must be really bad.
    _________
    Idk if if Brees is really bad, he has won titles, but if he was coming off that stretch i would also say its a bad idea to give brees 85 mil gur.

  77. cheeseisfattening says:
    June 15, 2018 at 7:02 pm
    Stella, it looks like you care enough to reply and are annoyed enough to copy my name. 😂 🤣🤡🤡🤡
    ////////////////////////
    Sure. I do that whenever more than just Packer and Viking fans are on a thread.

    So everybody can see how “real” Viking fans are. Call it Public Service.

  78. shaggytoodle says:
    June 16, 2018 at 7:23 pm

    Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    June 15, 2018 at 4:59 pm
    Drew Brees helped his team win 7 games as a starter three years in a row from 2014-16.

    He must be really bad.
    _________

    Idk if if Brees is really bad, he has won titles, but if he was coming off that stretch i would also say its a bad idea to give brees 85 mil gur.
    ________

    And you would have been wrong.

  79. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:

    And you would have been wrong.
    ________________________

    Why? Cuz I disagree with your opinion? or because he helped his Saints win ONE playoff game since his coming off that stretch of leading the Saints of around .500 football?

    So if Kirk Cousins goes 10-6 wins ONE playoff game, you are content with that, and his contract is totally worth almost 90$ mil gur? Regardless of what he does the next two years?

  80. numba1minnysportsfan says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:41 am
    I new it! I new this guy would not be werth the $$$

    Looks like 2 or 3 in the division again

    Skol?

    **************
    Werth.

  81. ” … a bad day of practice.”

    Kind of like, what do you expect? It’s Kirk Cousins.

  82. mnsportsapologist says:
    June 20, 2018 at 10:20 am
    numba1minnysportsfan says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:41 am
    I new it! I new this guy would not be werth the $$$

    Looks like 2 or 3 in the division again

    Skol?

    **************
    Werth

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    New?

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