Report: Baker Mayfield not ready to compete with Tyrod Taylor

AP

A year after the Browns thrust then-rookie quarterback DeShone Kizer into a Week One starting role, the Browns appear intent to do the opposite, keeping quarterback Baker Mayfield on ice for as long as possible.

If that’s the plan, Mayfield is making it easier to implement. Here’s an assessment of the competition, if there is one, between Mayfield and Tyrod Taylor, from Dan Labbe of the Cleveland Plain Dealer: “This is where I tell you that, based on the six practices of OTAs and minicamp that were open to the media, Mayfield did not look ready to compete with Taylor for the No. 1 quarterback job.”

Of course, Mayfield has a habit of taking over quickly, like he did as a walk on at Texas Tech and then as a transfer at Oklahoma. And if Mayfield somehow becomes the clear-cut best option in Cleveland, the Browns may have no choice but to play him.

The deck seems to be stacked in Taylor’s favor, however. And here’s another possible reason for it, one that won’t get mentioned during many/any press conferences: G.M. John Dorsey may be betting on someone other than Hue Jackson coaching the team next year, and Dorsey may want Mayfield to be handled not by Jackson but by his successor.

Regardless, Mayfield was picked to be the long-term starter. Whether that includes short-term remains to be seen.

62 responses to “Report: Baker Mayfield not ready to compete with Tyrod Taylor

  1. Tyrod is a gamer. He’s competitive, athletic and poised. Unfortunately, his greatest asset is his running ability. He’s good for 7-9 wins. Baker’s time should come mid to late season.

  2. cabot needed 6 ota practices to know that mayfield was not ready to compete, the rest of us figured that out before the draft.

  3. ruh-roh. Baker was #1 pick in draft and cannot challenge tyrod taylor. But Darnold, Rosen, especially and even Allen are pushing for the starting job on their teams. Browns will be Browns.

  4. You’re right, a kid who is only a few months separated from college isn’t ready for the NFL. There’s a reason Fortune 500 company VPs started out as interns and clerks – you need the time to blossom and develop your skillset. Create a controlled environment where he can experience some success and bumps on the smaller scale while building confidence.

  5. Rookie is not ready to take over an NFL offense only 2 months after the draft. News at 11.

  6. I don’t think there’s a soul who thought Baker Mayfield would beat out Tyrod this early or even in the first two seasons. He’ll be fine. He’s in a great situation where he can learn from a quarterback with a similar skill set.

  7. @granadafan

    Well, recent history suggests he should be able to, considering he was picked #1 overall. It’s Tyrod Taylor, expect a few sub-100 passing yard performances.

  8. Funny thing is #1 drafted players including QB’s are usually ready to play out of the box these days, so this comes as a shock until you review it’s the Browns.

  9. bleedredwhiteandblue66 says:
    June 18, 2018 at 4:30 pm
    Tyrod is a gamer. He’s competitive, athletic and poised. Unfortunately, his greatest asset is his running ability. He’s good for 7-9 wins. Baker’s time should come mid to late season.

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    Well you know as well as I that Tyrod did not have one season where he had any continuity/stability at the WR position due to constant injuries. Perhaps his receivers actually stay healthy in Cleveland and he develops some chemistry, and his passing ability shows up more and he’s good for a couple extra wins and maybe even a few 300 yard games. As a Bills fan, it will be hard for me not to root for him unlike a lot of former bills; he is a class act (even when he’s dissing our Bills, cause he’s technically right).

  10. I haven’t read up much on Darnold’s work thus far, but Mayfield and Allen sound like they are where they should be. Rookies who need some time before being ready for the NFL. Neither were sold as NFL ready guys. Rosen was considered the most NFL ready, and from the sounds of it has looked the part in his camps and practices as well, learning quickly and looking sharp next to Bradford. AZ got a steal. Mayfield and Allen’s are yet to be determined and went too high.

  11. A possible coaching change should not even be mentioned as an excuse.

    My 80 year old mother who does not even watch football knew the Browns were drafting a QB

    If the situation is as you describe then Cleveland should have made a coaching change this year and not next

  12. Not shocking really. The real concern would be if he wasn’t ready to challenge because he’s not putting the work in. Until that happens it’s the natural progression.

    Bills are taking time with Allen while giving him a few opportunities to play with the 1’s. It’s wise because if Allen does start, that means he earned it. Cleveland should do the same with mayfield

  13. injuries. Perhaps his receivers actually stay healthy in Cleveland and he develops some chemistry, and his passing ability shows up more and he’s good for a couple extra wins and maybe even a few 300 yard games. As a Bills fan, it will be hard for me not to root for him unlike a lot of former bills; he is a class act (even when he’s dissing our Bills, cause he’s technically right).

    Instability is not why he struggled. Well it played a part but his inability to anticipate his throws were problematic

  14. So last year they drafted a QB, started him right away and we all know how that looks like with zero wins and 19 interceptions. So yeah, it’s no surprise that they will go with the QB that gives them the best chance to get that 1st W in over a year.

  15. If Browns management lets Taylor play the entire season, Cleveland will make the playoffs.

  16. Just wait until Thyroid starts to struggle and fans will start calling out for Mayfield. Just like Denver fans started to chant Tebow time when Kyle Orton was struggling.

  17. To expect a kid to be the number qb option during OTAs is ridiculous. Even if they are the number 1 pick in the draft. The game is so much faster the players on the other side of the ball are so much better. All 11 are NFL starting Caliber. No QB faces even one team that has 11 NFL caliber starters on Defense, even playing in a Power 5 conference you get maybe 1 or 2 in a few games. Starting a guy game one as a rookie is setting him up for failure.

    They need time to watch the game, realize how much faster it isthmian college. This will not happen in OTAs.
    For the Good of Mayfield and the Browns they should sit him this year. They got the number 1 pick for a reason, THEY ARE A VERY BAD TEAM. take time to develop young players not destroy them… See David Carr.

  18. Its bad enough when Tyrod Taylor is your starting QB. Its even worse when the team took Mayfield with pick one. Johnny Football V2.0….

    No other team in the NFL would have been dumb enough to take Mayfield with pick one. He shouldn’t have even went in round one….

  19. yjad says:
    June 18, 2018 at 4:38 pm

    ruh-roh. Baker was #1 pick in draft and cannot challenge tyrod taylor. But Darnold, Rosen, especially and even Allen are pushing for the starting job on their teams. Browns will be Browns.
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    Maybe wait for training camp and the pre season, I don’t think after a week of OTA’s anyone is pushing for the starting QB job.

  20. Its never a good plan to have a rookie QB starting on week 1, umless he’s clearly better than the competition. Year 2 should be for Mayfield.

  21. I don’t think any rookie QB should start year one. Bills would have been wise to keep Taylor. Good move for Browns… if they let Mayfield learn for a year or so.

  22. the #1 overall pick can not compete with Tyrod FREAKIN Taylor?

    HAHAHAHA, BUST
    Cleveland Browns are pathetic

  23. Has any team ever wasted so many high draft picks in as short a period of time as the Browns’ recent failures? I’m not saying BM is a failure, but Kizer, Manziel…..

  24. Mayfield cant compete with Tyrod Taylor, what does that tell you?
    He’s obviously not as good as he thinks he is. First the NFL is a lot
    different to college. Maybe Cleveland picked the wrong person, that would
    not be a surprise.

  25. @ elrock7 says:

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    The Bills tried that experiment and it didn’t work. It’s now Cleveland’s turn to watch his ceiling 1st hand. Be prepared to be happy when the chains move but frustrated when can’t or won’t hit open receivers. 3 points against Jacksonville in playoff game was the clincher.

  26. Same was said about Wentz when Bradford was in Philly. Things could be very different after preseason.

  27. It is hilarious to hear definitive opinions after a few OTAs. It will become very clear how ready Mayfield is once pre-season rolls around and there is a real pass rush. With the exception of Jared Goff, it only takes a few games to determine who can play and who is over their skis.

  28. Let Baker sit and learn, funny how everyone in Buffalo was happy to see Taylor leave and blame him for the teams struggling but that team overachieved if anything. How many pro-bowl players were on the team/offense? Outside of Shady on offense who was there that consistently played, Watkins and clay were constantly injured, in a division ruled by the Pats. Grass ain’t always greener on the other side, if so remember it being fed by Bull ish!

  29. rabidbillsfan says: June 18, 2018 at 4:47 pm
    @granadafan

    Well, recent history suggests he should be able to, considering he was picked #1 overall. It’s Tyrod Taylor, expect a few sub-100 passing yard performances.
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    We’re going to need a larger sample size than “recent history” to make any determination whether a QB going #1 overall or any rookie QB ought to be ready two months after the draft or even start the first game of the season. Is that the last 2 years? 5 years? 10 years? Given the failure rate of QBs rushed to start, perhaps it’s prudent to let them sit?

  30. Peeps. One way or another: a 1st Round Draft Pick who is a Heisman winner is absolutely going to play in their first year, even if it ain’t ’til Game 16 lol

  31. By all of the Mayfield’s naysayers logic, Aaron Rogers and Steve Young stink because they didn’t start their rookie year. On the contrary- They are Hall of Fame players. Why don’t we wait to actually see Baker Mayfield actually play a game before we decide if he’s a bust or not.

  32. To the certain “reporter” here who has been calling for Hues demise for at least the last year; Jackson was part of the ‘Tank job’ that purged salaries to clear cap room and amass draft picks. The structure of the Browns is similar to that of Pittsburg that Haslem learned while minority owner there. Dorsey, Jackson and all coordinators report directly to Haslem. Dorsey was hired under this condition. With all the recent FA signings and draft picks the Browns still remain $70M under the cap All reports are that Dorsey and Jackson are in lock-step. Haley taking over the OC positon frees Jackson to oversee the whole team. It was Jackson that attracted talented but malcontent players who butted heads with their former coaches. Let’s put the torches away till after this season plays out.

  33. I have to wish Tyrod the best. He’s an outstanding guy and he gives it everything. He’s committed. A lot of people just aren’t anymore. It’s not about the team for so many, it’s a personal contract. Everything in life gets tough and you should fight for what you feel is worth it. He does. He didnt sell anyone out ever, even though he now was forced to trade down to a lower team. He made comments about the Bills but now that’s his opponent and not his team. Things didn’t work here with him. There was no fixing that. If there was, he’d have fought to do it and no doubt would have succeeded. But now that we have a new guy to take the reigns, the happiness and excitement is back and fans are super stoked to watch the future unfold now. Let’s hope it works out but I don’t see how it can be worse than it was. He has a chance to fix the Browns ( although that’s not gonna be very easy to do when it seems the organization is very dysfunctional at its core) and Buffalo wishes him the best in his pursuit. You just have to take the money and run when the time comes.

  34. Right now Mayfield is clearly the most talented QB to come out this year, but will he be in the long run once Allen, Rosen and Darnold get comfortable and catch up? If any of these rookies should start vs who their competition is it should be Rosen or Darnold. Neither QB in their respected offensive scheme has any true competition. Mayfield & Allen both have obstacles to deal with… Allen has McCarron, who has been waiting for this opportunity and Peterman who is a lot farther ahead than most would believe. Mayfield has Taylor, who is a smart QB that learns extremely fast. TT has good accuracy on decent arm strength, A killer deep pass and he is elusive as they come. Even If they wanted Mayfield to start right away he’s going to have a hard time going up against a polished leader like Taylor. IF Mayfield starts, It would only be due to a Taylor injury or a bunch of losses in a row. Taylor is just too far ahead of this kid to walk away with the job.

  35. Right now Mayfield is clearly the most talented QB to come out this year, but will he be in the long run once Allen, Rosen and Darnold get comfortable and catch up? If any of these rookies should start vs who their competition is it should be Rosen or Darnold. Neither QB in their respected offensive scheme has any true competition. Mayfield & Allen both have obstacles to deal with… Allen has McCarron, who has been waiting for this opportunity and Peterman who is a lot farther ahead than most would believe. Mayfield has Taylor, who is a smart QB that learns extremely fast. TT has good accuracy on decent arm strength, A killer deep pass and he is elusive as they come. Even If they wanted Mayfield to start right away he’s going to have a hard time going up against a polished leader like Taylor. IF Mayfield starts, It would only be due to a Taylor injury or a bunch of losses in a row. Taylor is just too far ahead of this kid to walk away with the job.

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    Mayfield has the most competition to winning the starting job? You have got to be kidding me. Josh Rosen has more competition ahead of him than any of the top QB’s, Sam Bradford on the field is a MUCH better QB than Tyrod Taylor by any standard, Taylor isnt all that great and is afraid to take anything but the safest possible throw every snap. I’d say Darnold has more competion in front of him to, as he has to beat out McCown and Bridgewater, both middling QB’s but so is Tyrod and he has to beat both. Mayfield also wasnt thought of as the most talented QB to come, Rosen & Darnold were. Rosen fell for things that had nothing to do with football.

  36. If newspaper reporters could coach…oh wait. They just think they can.

    Seriously, this is a discussion that should be had after the last preseason game.

  37. Browns should have picked Saquon Barkley & Bradley Chubb; they would have had a Stud in both sides of the ball. Instead they swung & missed 2x in the first 5 picks of the draft which could have been used to expedite their rebuild.

  38. A reporter from the cleveland plain dealer says mayfield cant compete, and ya”ll get goofy on him. Its a reporter. Man, you guys are a gullible bunch. But with the browns history. I get that.

  39. onthewarpath28 says:

    Browns should have picked Saquon Barkley & Bradley Chubb; they would have had a Stud in both sides of the ball. Instead they swung & missed 2x in the first 5 picks of the draft which could have been used to expedite their rebuild.
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    And you know that the Browns “swung and missed” based on which NFL games that were played that I must not be aware of? If you can wildly speculate, then allow me. The Browns drafted a HOF QB, a lock down corner in the NFL for the next 10 years and the best running back in the draft in Nick Chubb. There now, that was pointless fun, wasn’t it?

  40. The local Cleveland media has been anti-Mayfield since way before the draft. Grossi, Cabot, Labbe – all of them predicted Darnold as the top pick, and there was a palpable sense of bitterness when the news broke that the Browns might go with Mayfield.

    Not saying this report is motivated by spite, but people who follow the Browns closely and know the local media will not be surprised by this “report.”

    Let’s wait for camp, and for a larger sample size than portions of 6 OTA practices that happened to be open to the media.

  41. My goodness, the number of NFL scouts here on PFT are amazing! Declaring Mayfield sucks and the Browns are, well, the Browns. You guys are just amazing. Hopefully you’re not as much of a tool as you appear and catch the sarcasm.

    While I agree the head coach needs to go (c’mon, Hue is just awful) I think the front office finally has their act together. Given a coaching change, I can see the Brownies competing for a tournament spot in a year or two. There is a lot of talent of this roster.

  42. How can we trust the expertise of Dan Labbe when he is merely the straight man for Mary Kay Cabot’s faldarah and frumpery? And Tyrod Taylor is just a prolonged RGIII. It would not shock me – and I don’t even expect it – if Mayfield starts. And to all those who keep equating Mayfield to Manziel: stop pontificating as if you’re the patron saint of simpletons. Mayfield is a bad-ass, just like Favre, Roethlisberger, and Namath. Give the guy a chance, justto prove how wrong you are.

  43. Fortunately for Taylor and Mayfield their team plays in the cream-puff AFC North. Those are 6 easy games each season from which to build.

  44. nhpats says:
    June 19, 2018 at 8:49 am
    Fortunately for Taylor and Mayfield their team plays in the cream-puff AFC North. Those are 6 easy games each season from which to build.
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    Pats fan calling another division cream-puffs? Wow, that’s hilariously ironic. The dreadful AFC East has been the fuel feeding the Patriots prowess for the past decade and 1/2.

  45. Do a McNabb with Mayfield. Let Taylor get into the season, and see how the team looks. If it cant get any worse, and Mayfield looks good in practice, let the guy play.

    Don’t stunt his career if he isn’t ready though. Don’t ruin another career Cleveland…

  46. ladyjet says:

    June 18, 2018 at 5:47 pm

    Its never a good plan to have a rookie QB starting on week 1, umless he’s clearly better than the competition. Year 2 should be for Mayfield.

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    I generally agree with that, unless its an exceptional player.

    Russell Wilson, Carson Wentz, guys that can just play flat out. Other guys are like Goff. Give them a little time to get acclimated, then let them take the reigns when theyre ready. Just don’t David Carr the kid.

  47. Also, the Hue Jackson bashing by this site and others is strange. You all agreed that his team stunk on paper but continue blaming him for why it stunk. Very weird. It’s not any different than the Brett Brown situation from the NBA. People who can coach know the guy wasn’t to blame for his team losing 73 games or whatever it was just like Jackson with his peers. They stuck with him and when they got players, he made the playoffs ahead of schedule. It’s always about the Jimmies and Joes unless the coach loses the team, which he never did even last year. Bash some of these guys who definitely are underachieving with talent on their rosters like Dirk Koetter or Jason Garrett.

  48. Who’s surprised by this? Additionally, he was drafted ‘WAY’ too high. At best; he should have been taken in the spot where Lamar Jackson was taken!

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