Tom Brady explains decision to finally accept #DeflateGate punishment

AP

Three years ago, Patriots quarterback Tom Brady scored a major victory in the #DeflateGate case, delaying by a full season his four-game suspension. Two years ago, Brady eventually accepted the punishment. He explained his thinking in a recent interview with Oprah Winfrey.

Just too much anxiety,” Brady said regarding the decision to drop his appeal, via the Boston Herald. “I realized I couldn’t win. It was divided attention and I was tired of that, tired of waking up and having a call with someone from the Player’s Association. I said, ‘You know what, I’m going to use this as an opportunity, to have the month of September off for the first time in like 16, 21 years, and I’m going to take advantage of this.'”

Brady went to California for the month to visit his mother, who was receiving cancer treatment, during the four-week suspension. He also took his wife to Italy.

“Man, that was the best month off I think I’ve ever had,” Brady said. “In some ways, it was a great experience. I think you look back on those experiences and it was a really tough experience in my life.”

His instincts were right regarding his ability to win any further appeals. In fact, he possibly wouldn’t have managed to further delay the suspension pending a long-shot appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.

That said, long-shot appeals sometimes prevail. Just ask the folks in New Jersey, who now enjoy legalized gambling because the powers-that-be pulled a needle out of the haystack by taking the case to the Supreme Court.

118 responses to “Tom Brady explains decision to finally accept #DeflateGate punishment

  1. Let Julius Caesar have the power who cares, gambling is just an addiction to 95 percent of people anyway isn’t it? Artificial junk imo but who cares really most of us have material desires.

  2. In the NFL’s system of justice players are sentenced,convicted then tried. Evidence is unnecessary for the NFL and is discounted on the side of the player. In this case the league even admitted that in the case in question they admitted they had not one scrap of real evidence in fact a story about D’Qwell Jackson telling a coach he though an intercepted ball was soft had been concocted to cover the lie about balls being under 12.5PSI.

  3. Living well is the best revenge ..2 championships in the 3yrs of that ridiculous witch hunt ..champagne & clown Goodell shirts for everyone!

  4. That was a disaster for the NFL. At one point, they discovered it was an NFL employee stealing the k-balls, after originally saying the balls were being exchanged and doctored by the Patriots. That story simply disappeared. The testing the following season to see if temperature swings affected pressure? What became of that? Zero actual proof ever surfaced that the balls were ever deflated. They even asked Walt to take a bullet by saying he got the 2 gauges mixed up, as it met their narrative. The ‘smoking gun’ was some text messages sent by a part time employee nine months before the AFCC game was played. Then all the scientists showing the drop in pressure was consistent with the drop in temperature. It was a disaster.

  5. And then he came back and destroyed the league….resulting in his 5th Ring!

    I love that story. It has the happiest of endings.

  6. Don’t forget was also fresh when he came back and won the Super Bowl with the greatest comeback in the history of the corrupt NFL. He was able to get the MVP and the Lombardi and jam it down Rodgers throat. That Lombardi is now glistening in the HALL AT PATRIOT PLACE with the other 4 Thanks to the corrupt NFL we enjoyed a rested TB-12.

  7. Anxiety was caused by the guilt of cheating and lying.

    Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows he’s guilty.

    He destroyed his phone and lied about knowing the deflator and his game day role. Pats didn’t fully cooperate either.

    But he was framed by the league. Lol

  8. I wish Tom had fought this to the end. Goodell & Co. made this whole story up to appease NFL owners.

    It is mind boggling that a professional athlete was used like this.

  9. And for the millionth time, taking the suspension is NOT an admission of guilt. It was proven in Judge Berman’s court that there was nothing to be guilty of. But you idiots just keep believing the NFL’s lies, you only believe what you want to be true, not what really is true.

  10. Legalized sports betting was a bigger, more relevant ‘needle’ in that haystack for the Supreme Court to find than Goodell’s ability to solidify his power under NFL’s CBA sledgehammer, Article 46

  11. Only poorly educated people who failed 5th grade science and choose to believe Goodell’s 56 lies of framegate think Brady did anything wrong.

  12. Brady was caught and he knew it. He knows he did it and he knows no matter how many people he allowed to get thrown under the bus, that he was the only driver on that bus. If Kraft’s money could only sell a truly laughable story, he knew it was over.

  13. a bad collective agreement between the players union and the owners insured that a player in Brady’s position could not win an appeal of the commissioner’s decision, no matter how flawed. The players now know how much power the commissioner has over them, they need to decide if changing this process is worth the concessions they would have to give up to achieve fairness. Do they want more $$$$ or do they want more power in player personal matters…..

  14. This needs to be read again and again. For those still on the “cheaters” bandwagon, what exactly about Roger’s integrity history is it that you see as admirable?

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    That was a disaster for the NFL. At one point, they discovered it was an NFL employee stealing the k-balls, after originally saying the balls were being exchanged and doctored by the Patriots. That story simply disappeared. The testing the following season to see if temperature swings affected pressure? What became of that? Zero actual proof ever surfaced that the balls were ever deflated. They even asked Walt to take a bullet by saying he got the 2 gauges mixed up, as it met their narrative. The ‘smoking gun’ was some text messages sent by a part time employee nine months before the AFCC game was played. Then all the scientists showing the drop in pressure was consistent with the drop in temperature. It was a disaster.

  15. lgw91s says:
    June 19, 2018 at 6:44 am
    That was a disaster for the NFL. At one point, they discovered it was an NFL employee stealing the k-balls, after originally saying the balls were being exchanged and doctored by the Patriots. That story simply disappeared. The testing the following season to see if temperature swings affected pressure? What became of that? Zero actual proof ever surfaced that the balls were ever deflated. They even asked Walt to take a bullet by saying he got the 2 gauges mixed up, as it met their narrative. The ‘smoking gun’ was some text messages sent by a part time employee nine months before the AFCC game was played. Then all the scientists showing the drop in pressure was consistent with the drop in temperature. It was a disaster.

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    Of course it was. Goodell is a disaster. Outside of a lockout or strike years, the NFL has never seen ratings tumble like this.

    Everyone with half a brain knew another framejob was on its way once we even heard of what the premise was on the news via a cheating writer who had the scheme in play, Bob Kravitz from the Indy Star, along with Chris MOrtensen of ESPN.

    They were lied to or in on the framejob, and the awkward, creepy cheating by Goodell and some owners, was underway.

    I am still laughing at those who believe Goodell and continue to make fools of themselves.

    Judge Berman exposed the cheating NFL in his own federal courts for all to see and Brady went under oath to profess his obvious innocence.

    And, we’re still supposed to believe Ray Rice didn’t do it and Brady wanted some guy he didn’t know who wasn’t even an employee, to arbitrarily take air out of the balls, just because.

    See you in Atlanta, losers.

  16. dignityrules says:
    June 19, 2018 at 7:03 am
    I wish Tom had fought this to the end. Goodell & Co. made this whole story up to appease NFL owners.

    It is mind boggling that a professional athlete was used like this.

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    Beyond mindboggling. And, to think Brady’s mom was very sick with cancer on top of it. Just absolutely reprehensible behavior from the greedy, cheating owners and Goodell.

    I hope they all die a very slow death. Would serve them right.

  17. dignityrules says:
    June 19, 2018 at 7:03 am
    I wish Tom had fought this to the end. Goodell & Co. made this whole story up to appease NFL owners.

    It is mind boggling that a professional athlete was used like this.
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    Not anymore. You would think Brady or Aaron Rogers or several other players would be the face of the league. Nope, it’s not a player’s league anymore. Goodell is now the face of the league. That right there and his obscene $40M+ yearly paycheck where he is essentially paid to wreak havoc on the league is the root of many of the NFL’s issues. The Snake and his Park Avenue minions have done incredible damage the past 7 years.

  18. Ralphie says:
    June 19, 2018 at 9:17 am
    dignityrules says:
    June 19, 2018 at 7:03 am
    I wish Tom had fought this to the end. Goodell & Co. made this whole story up to appease NFL owners.

    It is mind boggling that a professional athlete was used like this.
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    Not anymore. You would think Brady or Aaron Rogers or several other players would be the face of the league. Nope, it’s not a player’s league anymore. Goodell is now the face of the league. That right there and his obscene $40M+ yearly paycheck where he is essentially paid to wreak havoc on the league is the root of many of the NFL’s issues. The Snake and his Park Avenue minions have done incredible damage the past 7 years.

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    Note how the other sports leagues are not run like this. What we’ve witnessed with the insitutionalized cheating the past decade via Goodell and the weasly owners who want to win but feel entitled as losers, jealous fo the Pats, is so unoique nothing remotely close is seen in the other pro sports leagues.

    They don’t frame coaches and players of a dynasty team and change rules during games to affect the outcomes either.

    The NBA would be the closest example, but even they appear pure and wholesome compared to cheater Goodell.

    Watch this Edelman thing here, too. This is smelling more and more like another framejob if it’s true the leak was intentional to garner public support for the cheating by Goodell and if the banned substance was in fact not listed on the label.

    If Edelman loses the appeal, it would be the first time the laeague proactively announced a suspension well in advance of them even knowing what the substance even was.

  19. It is a little disingenuous of Mr Brady to not mention the financial benefit of having appealed: to kick the punishment down the road. He restructured in April 2016 so that his salary went from $9 million base to $1 million base salary which meant his lost 4 game checks only cost him $235941 instead of $2.1 million when the penalty first could have been served. I am not saying whether the penalty was right or wrong, just that he benefited significantly by putting off serving it one year.

    And if a commenter really thinks wishing a slow death on Goodell and the owners over all of this makes sense, maybe they should take a break from following the NFL for a while and get some perspective.

  20. tqaztec says:
    June 19, 2018 at 9:24 am
    …I went phone shopping for a month because I couldn’t find mine….

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    Yes and the Boogeyman knocked out Ray Rice’s fiancee in the elevator, too. All because a guy in a suit who is sold to be the truthteller at 345 Park Ave, told me so.

    Why adults choose to make fools of themselves, even anonymously on a messageboard, is beyond me.

  21. The only people who believe what the CORRUPT NFL tells them are the same libertard snowflakes that believe what the lying, tainted and the corrupt main stream media feeds them daily. Can’t think for themselves. Just sheeple looking to be led. Baaaaaaaaa

  22. liondoc says:
    June 19, 2018 at 9:30 am
    It is a little disingenuous of Mr Brady to not mention the financial benefit of having appealed: to kick the punishment down the road. He restructured in April 2016 so that his salary went from $9 million base to $1 million base salary which meant his lost 4 game checks only cost him $235941 instead of $2.1 million when the penalty first could have been served. I am not saying whether the penalty was right or wrong, just that he benefited significantly by putting off serving it one year.

    And if a commenter really thinks wishing a slow death on Goodell and the owners over all of this makes sense, maybe they should take a break from following the NFL for a while and get some perspective.

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    No offense, but I don’t think trying to ruin another human being with defamation and mindgames is reflective of an honorable human being.

    It’s evil, regardless of how much money or success someone has.

    It’s not only a problem with what Goodell and the cheating owners have done, it’s becoming something done in our society in general, using the internet and social media to bully people.

    It’s no different than some high school gang using social media and the web to bully people in school. Why anyone would applause such gutless behavior, is beyond me.

    What Goodell did and has done towards the Pats, as he tries to make sure he keeps his 40 mil per year job in the name of greed and hiding the truth like with CTE, to expoand overseas, is the height of disgusting acts.

    How is that for perspective, little guy? I have been all over the motive and agenda by Goodell since he was hired by Woody Johnson of the Jets for over 10 years now, mainly right after Framegate I was issued in Sept of 2007.

    Nothing, and I mean, NOTHING, has ever added up once the dust settled.

    So, yes, evil people need to be gone already and I do hope they suffer.

  23. If he cheated he cheated- fine. But can someone point out how? The Wells report sure didn’t, and of course NFL said in court they had no evidence towards Brady. the fact that there were 2 DIFFERENT needles that varied by nearly .4 PSI should have ENDED ANY impartial investigation. The judgement was about the CBA, not about the facts in the case- the initial suit- WHICH BRADY WON seems to get ignored. Frankly there is FAR more evidence Petyon did HGH than anything against Brady.

    If anyone thinks Brady needed the “crutch” of lower PSI balls- please- since the Deflategate game:

    3 Superbowl appearances.
    Greatest SB Comeback
    Most yards EVER in a SB TWICE- breaking his own record.
    2 Superbowl wins.
    2 Superbowl MVP’s
    1 Regular season MVP

    And maybe his greatest achievement of having Goodell grovel TWICE before him.

    I know people hate Brady- but gimme a break with “Deflategate” already.

  24. 1) To “finally accept”? Florio forgets league took Brady to court, twice, not other way around.
    2) He offered his phones logs (like Zeke Elliott and every player protected by the CBA has done).
    3) NFL hasn’t produced evidence of cheating in court (won their appeal on CBA rights, not PSI).
    4) NFL has still not released the data from its year monitoring of PSIs.
    5) NFL still does nothing about Aaron Rodgers’ 2015 admission of a long-term PSI scheme.
    6) Jets were (properly, as per rules) fined $25K after their kicker tampered with balls.
    7) Two other cases of other teams’ ball manipulations just generated warning letters.
    8) Giants and Colts let off after both broke rules carrying needles (testing Steelers & Pats balls).
    9) Colts balls were underflated too but no witch-hunt.
    10) NFL lied on the PSI, lied that the Pats switched balls, & refused ref Walt Anderson’s word.
    11) And just what was that suspicious Colts ballboy up to, during the game, a few weeks later?
    Then there’s more, like the league leaking Brady’s emails, Colts lying about Dqwell Jackson…

  25. “Well I didn’t want the league digging any further and discovering that, on top of deflating balls and watching tapes of other teams practices, that I have also ignore concussion protocol and do not report when I have sustained a concussion, or several concussions. I just though of my family and how much cheating I actually get away with, I just figured the commish could have this one… ”

    – Shady Brady.

  26. PATS NATION….let’s not defend the Greatest over and over to the sheeple. We know the truth and facts don’t lie. There was never any evidence to prove the corrupt case of the NFL. We make no excuses as we know the great one was railroaded to protect parity and the shield. Let’s just rejoice in the fact that we as a nation have been feasting for 20 years on the tears of the HATERZZZZZZZ.

  27. streetyson says:
    June 19, 2018 at 9:48 am
    1) To “finally accept”? Florio forgets league took Brady to court, twice, not other way around.
    2) He offered his phones logs (like Zeke Elliott and every player protected by the CBA has done).
    3) NFL hasn’t produced evidence of cheating in court (won their appeal on CBA rights, not PSI).
    4) NFL has still not released the data from its year monitoring of PSIs.
    5) NFL still does nothing about Aaron Rodgers’ 2015 admission of a long-term PSI scheme.
    6) Jets were (properly, as per rules) fined $25K after their kicker tampered with balls.
    7) Two other cases of other teams’ ball manipulations just generated warning letters.
    8) Giants and Colts let off after both broke rules carrying needles (testing Steelers & Pats balls).
    9) Colts balls were underflated too but no witch-hunt.
    10) NFL lied on the PSI, lied that the Pats switched balls, & refused ref Walt Anderson’s word.
    11) And just what was that suspicious Colts ballboy up to, during the game, a few weeks later?
    Then there’s more, like the league leaking Brady’s emails, Colts lying about Dqwell Jackson…

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    Oh man, we could go on for days picking apart the 56 Lies thrown into the Wells Report.

    I’ve never seen someone so caught stone cold in a federal court before.

    At the end of the day, our justice system has worked backwards like this forever, working backwards to achieve a desired result.

    The difference bwteen this and Spygate is that in Framegate I, BB is part of the owners and not in the union, so Kraft told him to take it and move on. The problem is, the NFL and the cheating owners keep cheating and THEY won’t move on.

    Goodell and the owners thought they could control Kraft here, too, and they did not envision Brady putting his hand on a bible and taking an oath to defend himself from the cheating in a federal court.

    Winning SB 51 was the cherry on top and watching Goodell run off that podium lie the gutless loser he is.

  28. I look at it like this. Yes Tom Brady cheated. There’s no doubt in my mind. He’s one of the greatest players to ever play the game. So was Barry Bonds. He holds the home run record, and the dude was obviously juicing. He will obviously not be inducted into the baseball Hall of Fame. Now do I think Tom Brady should be withheld from the National Football Hall of Fame? No, not necessarily. However, I will always think of Tom Brady as a guy who thought he could get away with cheating by not omitting as to what was going on. So keep all you’re Super Bowls, Tom Brady is and always be known as a cheater. That’s unfortunate.

  29. Benjamin Davis says:
    June 19, 2018 at 10:38 am
    I look at it like this. Yes Tom Brady cheated. There’s no doubt in my mind. He’s one of the greatest players to ever play the game. So was Barry Bonds. He holds the home run record, and the dude was obviously juicing. He will obviously not be inducted into the baseball Hall of Fame. Now do I think Tom Brady should be withheld from the National Football Hall of Fame? No, not necessarily. However, I will always think of Tom Brady as a guy who thought he could get away with cheating by not omitting as to what was going on. So keep all you’re Super Bowls, Tom Brady is and always be known as a cheater. That’s unfortunate.

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    Please at least get to a community college. It’s the least you can do after your shift at 7-11 ends.

  30. Benjamin Davis says:
    June 19, 2018 at 10:38 am

    I look at it like this. Yes Tom Brady cheated. There’s no doubt in my mind. He’s one of the greatest players to ever play the game. So was Barry Bonds. He holds the home run record, and the dude was obviously juicing. He will obviously not be inducted into the baseball Hall of Fame. Now do I think Tom Brady should be withheld from the National Football Hall of Fame? No, not necessarily. However, I will always think of Tom Brady as a guy who thought he could get away with cheating by not omitting as to what was going on. So keep all you’re Super Bowls, Tom Brady is and always be known as a cheater. That’s unfortunate.
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    Okay Benjamin- please explain how Brady’s a cheater then? NFL/ Wells sure didn’t.

    On the other hand there is plenty of info to point out he didn’t cheat.

    i wish I could find 1 person to point out how Brady cheated without quoting false information from a disgraced ESPN article, or the wrong info that was leaked by the NFL and reported by schefter/king, etc.

  31. nflfan12blog says:
    June 19, 2018 at 10:53 am
    Benjamin Davis says:
    June 19, 2018 at 10:38 am

    I look at it like this. Yes Tom Brady cheated. There’s no doubt in my mind. He’s one of the greatest players to ever play the game. So was Barry Bonds. He holds the home run record, and the dude was obviously juicing. He will obviously not be inducted into the baseball Hall of Fame. Now do I think Tom Brady should be withheld from the National Football Hall of Fame? No, not necessarily. However, I will always think of Tom Brady as a guy who thought he could get away with cheating by not omitting as to what was going on. So keep all you’re Super Bowls, Tom Brady is and always be known as a cheater. That’s unfortunate.
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    Okay Benjamin- please explain how Brady’s a cheater then? NFL/ Wells sure didn’t.

    On the other hand there is plenty of info to point out he didn’t cheat.

    i wish I could find 1 person to point out how Brady cheated without quoting false information from a disgraced ESPN article, or the wrong info that was leaked by the NFL and reported by schefter/king, etc.

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    That’s juyt the thing, they can’t do it. The best is confronting an adult in person on the topic and watching them embarrass themselves in front of everyone. It’s hilarious.

    I always ask where Article 46 was for Ray Rice and Peyton Manning’s forehead expansion.

  32. Delusional Cheatriot fans lol

    What’s the odds a guy named the deflator takes the footballs into the bathroom without permission and lies about it and lies about using a urinal that didn’t exist.

    This was after Grigson sent an email saying it’s common knowledge the Cheats take air out of their balls.

    The deflator asked for new kicks and threatened to go to ESPN

    Brady lied about the deflator and didn’t fully cooperate and the Pats didn’t fully cooperate.

    And it goes on and on with the circumstantial evidence.

    Cheaters keep deflecting the truth with your lies and keep supporting your cheater QB and team.

    Sincerely

    Lance
    Barry
    Belicheat
    And Tommy.

  33. You don’t have to be a Brady/Patriots fan to see what the NFL did…Like many, when the Deflategate nonsense started I thought that NE/Brady had cheated again…And like many I read Wells, etc. After the ruling in Judge Berman’s Court ordering Brady’s transcripts opened from his NFL appeal is when I started to change my mind… including my thoughts about Spygate… It only took a little research!

    I’m not here to change anybody’s mind. I’d just rather deal with FACTS…Not hearsay, or agenda driven made up stories.

  34. Let this not distract you from the fact Tom Brady is 1-3 in the playoffs against the Broncos. I know one of you will cry that those were indeed the Patriots “B” teams. But I guess there is only one “A” team at the end of the year.

  35. “Is there evidence that Mr Brady either himself or ordered someone else to stick a needle in a ball? No there is no such direct evidence.”
    — The NFL, under oath, in federal court.

    Really nothing more that needs to be said. Brady took the month off, gave the soon to be 5 time World Champion Patriots a break from distraction and a chance to showcase JG in the process. And then came back and led his team to the Super Bowl, and the greatest comeback perhaps in the history of pro sports to do it.

    Poor Patriot Hater. What a gut punch that Super Bowl must have been. And the one before. Tee hee 🙂

    #PownedAgain
    #TeeHee

  36. People that feel they need to name call or insult indicate that they have no material to debate with and confirm that they have lost the argument. I have a 4-year degree of Associates in Applied Sciences and currently work in the ER morning, noon, and night. I also exercise my 1st first Amendment to state whatever I believe. I too believe that the balls were deflated in the bathroom. So please feel free to keep the insults coming.

  37. Tee hee 🙂 Look how mad Patriot Hater is getting in this topic 🙂 Tee hee 🙂

    Just remember Patriot Hater. You and your team are NOTHING boy. You will NEVER be on OUR level. You’ll NEVER deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as US. Your team will NEVER deserve to be on the same field as the NFL’s Greatest Dynasty, the back to back AFC and 5 time World Champions and soon to be 6 time World Champion Patriots.

    Weaklings always finish last. Don’t forget that cupcakes.

    😀

    🙂

  38. mammothfan says:
    June 19, 2018 at 11:23 am

    Let this not distract you from the fact Tom Brady is 1-3 in the playoffs against the Broncos. I know one of you will cry that those were indeed the Patriots “B” teams. But I guess there is only one “A” team at the end of the year.
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    I love Patriot Hater logic.

    When the Patriots win, wins are a team stat not a QB stat. Brady deserves no credit because it was the team that won.

    When the Patriots lose – losses are a Brady stat. Brady lost that game.

    Tee hee.

    🙂

  39. Theevidencesaysotherwise says:
    June 19, 2018 at 11:12 am
    Delusional Cheatriot fans lol

    What’s the odds a guy named the deflator takes the footballs into the bathroom without permission and lies about it and lies about using a urinal that didn’t exist.

    This was after Grigson sent an email saying it’s common knowledge the Cheats take air out of their balls.

    The deflator asked for new kicks and threatened to go to ESPN

    Brady lied about the deflator and didn’t fully cooperate and the Pats didn’t fully cooperate.

    And it goes on and on with the circumstantial evidence.

    Cheaters keep deflecting the truth with your lies and keep supporting your cheater QB and team.

    Sincerely

    Lance
    Barry
    Belicheat
    And Tommy.

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    Umm, maybe because it’s awkward and embarrassing to divulge what you were doing in a bathroom in front of people acting like the FBI investigating a serious crime?

    “Using the urinal” was his way of saying “taking a piss”. We all know what he meant.

    And, for you or anyone to think 1 human can dump 12 balls onto the ground, bend over 1 by 1, stick a needle into each ball, after moistening the needle, in 90 seconds, is beyond being an incredible moron.

    There are a dozen ways the NFL could have proven this to be true, which is one dead giveaway it was a framejob.

    Instead of believing clear liars like Goodell and the thiefs on Park Ave, you should be asking where the security tape was from the game before, to see what McNally did before that game.

    Instead, we get another lie from the attorneys claiming “that tape was not avaiable”.

    lastly, since we don’t see the questions each person was asked, as if that in itself is not suspicious enough, we never see the contexts of any of the texts, until the Pats themselves released the Wells Report COunter-report, which exposes the NFL’s attempt to cheat so badly anyway.

    If someone is guilty, you don’t need 56 lies. You may have small number of reaches by law enforcement to get a convictions, where they over-step their bounds, still relying on a smoking gun.

    There is no smoking gun, unless you count two people joking about Brady’s perfectionism with ball prep as such.

    Joking around is not evidence of anything. Any one of us can have our phones taken from us and used old texts in such a way to frame. It’s a very dangerous concept in general.

    The premise alone is hilarious to think about, yet morons just want to brainwash themselves into believing it because they approve of Goodell’s ways to cheat and manipulate the league for parity purposes.

    Goodell and the owners know parity is the only selling feature to expand overseas. The PAts domination never before seen in cap era sports history before, is slowing down NFL expansion, and they know it, hence the cheating approaches.

    Like I said, $100 Edelman will lose his appeal, even though it’s pretty obvious they have no grounds to suspend a player without telling them what the banned substance is off the list.

    Everything ESPN and Wells fed you via Goodell was a lie. So, you regurgitating the lies, doesn’t all of a sudden make them truths.

    Patchwork, texts out of order and chronoligical sequence with no context of any kind, is not evidence Brady ordered anything to be done whatsoever.

    And, yes, people who handle the balls, either as an employee or a volunteer, may use the word “ball” and “deflation” or even “inflation” when it comes to talking about an NFL QB’s anal ways of preparing for games. Or, a myriad of other words that could be used to create “suspicion” for morons to believe. The fact we never saw any of the interview transcriptions also proves it was a framejob. We have no idea what any of the accused answers were. We just know what Goodell served up with a bow to rabid, jealous idiots who need to at least attend community college.

    Goodell will claim “Article 46” even though he won’t use Article 46 in other situations where it’s beyond clear a punishment is needed for an obvious violation.

    Brady simple stated Harbaugh needs to check the rules after whining yet again as an entitled loser coach after a loss to the Pats, and that clearly set off this framejob the very next week, yet mysteriously the NFL and their long arms of the law and Article 46 could not procure the pre game video from that game the week before?

    Hmm.

    Grigson asked Sean Sullivan to send him an email only after the Ravens game. If Sean Sullivan had that kind of info of “everyone knows” Brady deflates balls, there is no way on earth this would have been kept quiet for so long. That’s another tell.

    Last time I checked, all sports stadiums keep security tape on site for 10 days, before it gets dumped off site at a data storage facility for liability purposes. That’s the biggest tell in this whole thing. What would have been the easiest way to prove a pattern, Goodell and his precious Article 46 completely ignored.

    The fact Goodell tesiified in a federal court that Article 46 gives him the right to conjure up framejobs, ignore clear guilty parties to protect them for parity purposes, lie, cheat or steal money via suspensions, is incredibly disturbing and will eventually ruin the NFL as we know it.

    There is a reason why Tagliabue stepped down. He didn’t want to be used as a pawn to do what Goodell is clearly willing to do.

    Morons in this country believe framejobs and smart people ask logical questions. It’s just that simple. Our country has become incredibly dumb.

  40. Benjamin Davis says:
    June 19, 2018 at 11:46 am
    People that feel they need to name call or insult indicate that they have no material to debate with and confirm that they have lost the argument. I have a 4-year degree of Associates in Applied Sciences and currently work in the ER morning, noon, and night. I also exercise my 1st first Amendment to state whatever I believe. I too believe that the balls were deflated in the bathroom. So please feel free to keep the insults coming.

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    This means your degree is absolutely worthless.

    Congratulations, Millennial.

  41. Benjamin Davis says:
    June 19, 2018 at 11:46 am

    People that feel they need to name call or insult indicate that they have no material to debate with and confirm that they have lost the argument. I have a 4-year degree of Associates in Applied Sciences and currently work in the ER morning, noon, and night. I also exercise my 1st first Amendment to state whatever I believe. I too believe that the balls were deflated in the bathroom. So please feel free to keep the insults coming.

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    Sorry chief. Brady never cheated. Not even once. 🙂

    It’s funny for a team to be accused of doing such things… not one former employee (many of whom left the team on less than good terms) has ever said they knew about cheating, they saw it happen, or were asked to participate. Huh. Go figure. I happen to think that anyone with a brain knows why that is the case.

    You getting mad boy? 🙂 Yeah. U mad.

    Stop making excuses why your team loses to the Patriots and demand better of them.

  42. I don’t think anybody is stating that they hate the Patriots or even Tom Brady for that matter. It’s such a strong word. What is being discussed is the fact that many fans, as do I feel that despite the evidence or lack there of view and believe that Tom Brady is a cheater. Regardless of how successful the Patriots franchise has been. No one here is upset with how well you believe you’re team is better than everyone else, it won’t change the opinions of us that believe you’re quarterback deliberately, cheated. That’s not hate or envy, or spite. It’s just other people’s opinions.

    Proverbs 26:4

    Y’all have a blessed day!

  43. mammothfan says:
    June 19, 2018 at 11:56 am

    The patriots were irrelevant before Tom Brady. Tee hee.

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    Not at all. Sold out every home game for nearly a decade before in fact.

    Try again cupcake. 🙂

  44. Brady simple stated Harbaugh needs to check the rules after whining yet again as an entitled loser coach after a loss to the Pats, and that clearly set off this framejob the very next week, yet mysteriously the NFL and their long arms of the law and Article 46 could not procure the pre game video from that game the week before?

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    Oh but that is indeed what the whole thing was all about.

    At first I wished Brady didn’t say it but now I’m glad he did. Wussies in football (just like in real life) need to be put in their place. 🙂

  45. Benjamin Davis says:
    June 19, 2018 at 12:06 pm

    I don’t think anybody is stating that they hate the Patriots or even Tom Brady for that matter. It’s such a strong word. What is being discussed is the fact that many fans, as do I feel that despite the evidence or lack there of view and believe that Tom Brady is a cheater. Regardless of how successful the Patriots franchise has been. No one here is upset with how well you believe you’re team is better than everyone else, it won’t change the opinions of us that believe you’re quarterback deliberately, cheated. That’s not hate or envy, or spite. It’s just other people’s opinions.


    Well as an intelligent and knowledgeable fan I like to believe things when there is evidence of such. 🙂 You say opinion but I prefer fact – There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Tom Brady cheated, other than the wishful prognostications of Patriot Hater, on top of media fabrications looking for views and clicks.

    It is of course quite amusing to see Patriot Hater want so bad for it to be true. We Patriot fans would never wish a team cheated even if we loathed them. That’s because unlike Patriot Hater we are intelligent, we have integrity and we love the sport too much to wave our pom poms at the idea that any team cheated to win and tainted the sport.

    🙂

  46. mammothfan says:
    June 19, 2018 at 12:15 pm

    For a whole decade? Good for you. Denver has sold out since the 70’s
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    Good for you. Here’s your little blue ribbon. 🙂

  47. Surf Bandits says:
    June 19, 2018 at 11:21 am
    You don’t have to be a Brady/Patriots fan to see what the NFL did…Like many, when the Deflategate nonsense started I thought that NE/Brady had cheated again…And like many I read Wells, etc. After the ruling in Judge Berman’s Court ordering Brady’s transcripts opened from his NFL appeal is when I started to change my mind… including my thoughts about Spygate… It only took a little research!

    I’m not here to change anybody’s mind. I’d just rather deal with FACTS…Not hearsay, or agenda driven made up stories.

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    When I saw up to 6 former (key word there) coaches, pre-Goodell Era, back BB on Spygate, I knew something was up.

    It never added up. Since then, that whole thing has been recycled and lied about over and over just like Framegate II (Deflategate).

    The only thing BB did wrong there was not take the location of where the video coordinator was supposed to be, seriously enough. The truth is, he was annoyed that Goodell made this a topic, which the rule wording adjustment was targeting the Pats (A pattern that we still see today for harrassment reasons and attempts to distract or frame to cheat to weaken), on 9.6.06, the very first official day Goodell took over.

    That rule was always about scouting info to be used in that game that day, hence why the locations are listed. Goodell knew about the tiff between BB and Mangini. He completely ignored it in order to enact his framejob to the public.

    And the memo came from Ray Anderson, so it would seem like Goodell was not rubber stamping the cheating.

    The Jets used two cameras in Foxborough, illegally, in January of 2007. BB mocking Mangini and the Jets in Week 1 of Sept 2007 was simply mocking them, not cheating.

    Goodell is a big fan of ignoring the context of a situation, too. He wants evryone to believe that he wasn’t a Jets employee or fan all the way back to the Namath era or hired by Woody Johnson the owner of the Jets. He wants everyone to think these are just coincidences and hopes the average NFL fan is dumb, which apparently they are.

    I would even argue the hiring of Mangini, who clearly was not ready, was an NFL suggestion from Goodell to further force BB to take a hit to the coaching staff, on the heels of Weis/Crennel leaving.

    Pats fans know the truth because we’ve been forced to go after the truth. You can even trace the 345 Park Ave initiated cheating attempts by the Jets towards the Pats back to January of 1997 and SB 31. When I saw the Two Bills documentary this past Feb, I had no idea this kind of obsessions with maximizing ROI out of the NY franchises was such an important thing. It makes you wonder how the Giants beat the Pats in 2 SBs, too. Who leaked a lie about a Walkthrough tape on the even of SB 42? Was it the Giants/Mara? Maybe. Tomase never told us his source although he should have.= to save his job.

    It’s a long, arrogant history by the loser Jets, but pulling the strings for Goodell was something new in 2006 and there was no way BB was going to predict his retaliation for the Jets arrogantlyu trying to use 2 cameras in January of 2007 in Foxvboroguh going unpunished by Goodell himself to protect the Jets, would ever be used as revenge and framed as something sinister in broad daylight either.

    The home team has to give the road team a location to film from. This is written in the rules.

    I choose to believe truthful and classy coaches like Cowher, Chuck Knox, Dick Vermeil, Parcells, Jimmy Johnson, etc, over Goodell and weasly cheats like Woody Johnson and others owners in bed with Goodell, thanks very much.

    A normal adult would have picked up the phone and told bot the Jets and Pats to cool it with their personal feud or they will both be punished in the future. Didn’t happen.

    And, 10+ years later, as the ratings tumble, we know why, don’t we?

  48. tylawspick6 says:
    June 19, 2018 at 12:21 pm

    Surf Bandits says:
    June 19, 2018 at 11:21 am
    You don’t have to be a Brady/Patriots fan to see what the NFL did…Like many, when the Deflategate nonsense started I thought that NE/Brady had cheated again…And like many I read Wells, etc. After the ruling in Judge Berman’s Court ordering Brady’s transcripts opened from his NFL appeal is when I started to change my mind… including my thoughts about Spygate… It only took a little research!

    I’m not here to change anybody’s mind. I’d just rather deal with FACTS…Not hearsay, or agenda driven made up stories.

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    When I saw up to 6 former (key word there) coaches, pre-Goodell Era, back BB on Spygate, I knew something was up.

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    Well said.

    A cheater always hides what they were doing. BB never hid anything. The camera was out in the open. He did it because the rule as written gave him leeway, that the information collected wasn’t to be used in game. It wasn’t. So there should have been no problem.

    It only became an issue because of the buffoon in charge of this league. Period.

  49. mammothfan says:
    June 19, 2018 at 12:15 pm
    For a whole decade? Good for you. Denver has sold out since the 70’s

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    Well, how come Pat Bowlen did not have the money for the new stadium in the mid 90s then?

    Oh wait, he did. The cap cheating was that excuse used to cover for trying to get perennial loser Elway a SB ring.

  50. Who leaked a lie about a Walkthrough tape on the even of SB 42?

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    What I’d like to know is who was spying on the Patriots walkthrough before Super Bowl 36? The Times reported someone had a telescope looking down at the Patriots walkthrough from high up in the stadium and the guy was gone as soon as he realized he was spotted.

    It was interesting that league officials saw it too… and did nothing. Huh.

  51. Tom Brady tore his ACL and missed a season. John Elway played his entire career with his torn.

  52. tylawspick6 says:
    June 19, 2018 at 12:39 pm

    mammothfan says:
    June 19, 2018 at 12:15 pm
    For a whole decade? Good for you. Denver has sold out since the 70’s

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    Well, how come Pat Bowlen did not have the money for the new stadium in the mid 90s then?

    Oh wait, he did. The cap cheating was that excuse used to cover for trying to get perennial loser Elway a SB ring.
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    Denver Broncos… still the only team in NFL history to be caught and fined for illegally taping another teams practices.

    🙂

  53. And who was caught illegally taping? Oh yeah it was josh McDaniels. Where is he now? where did he come from?

  54. For a whole decade? Good for you. Denver has sold out since the 70’s
    *****************

    It’s cute how you think selling out a stadium for decades relates to being relevant. How many of those years since the 70s have the Broncos been, relevant?

    Broncos made it to the SB once in the 70s and got crushed by Dallas.
    Broncos made it 3 times in late 80s/90 and got crushed all 3 times.

    In 48 years the Broncos have been to 8 SBs and won 3. In the past 18 years, the Pats have been to 9 SBs and won 5.

    Is it more relevant to only have been to 8 SB in 48 years or 9 in 18 years?

  55. I take that back it wasn’t josh mcdaniels actually taping the practices it was one of the other patriots scum bag he brought with him to Denver.

  56. Brady got Railroaded. The Investigation was garbage and didn’t prove anything. Maybe the Pats were doing shennanigans, maybe they weren’t, but Ted Welles and Roger Goodell messed it up so badly and never made their case. But they were like hey, we are the NFL, we will do whatever the hell we want.

    And no, I am not a Pats fan, I am A GIANTS fan. I respect Brady and Bellichik, but I am a Neutral Observer.

    They got RAILROADED.

  57. Benjamin Davis says:
    June 19, 2018 at 12:06 pm
    I don’t think anybody is stating that they hate the Patriots or even Tom Brady for that matter. It’s such a strong word. What is being discussed is the fact that many fans, as do I feel that despite the evidence or lack there of view and believe that Tom Brady is a cheater. Regardless of how successful the Patriots franchise has been. No one here is upset with how well you believe you’re team is better than everyone else, it won’t change the opinions of us that believe you’re quarterback deliberately, cheated. That’s not hate or envy, or spite. It’s just other people’s opinions.
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    Allow me to help break this down for you …

    “What is being discussed is the fact that many fans, as do I feel that despite the evidence or lack there of view and believe that Tom Brady is a cheater. ”
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    v
    “That’s not hate or envy, or spite. It’s just other people’s opinions.”

    If you are forming your opinion based on lack of evidence it’s reasonable to assume said opinion most likely is based on hate or envy, or spite. It certainly isn’t founded in logic and deserves all the scrutiny resulting from such. Just sayin’.

  58. mammothfan says:
    June 19, 2018 at 12:50 pm

    And who was caught illegally taping? Oh yeah it was josh McDaniels. Where is he now? where did he come from?

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    That’s because Josh fell victim to the long established culture of cheating in Denver. He is no longer part of that culture and therefore he would never do such a thing now. He knew that when he came back to a team with integrity like NE that stuff would not be tolerated.

    🙂

  59. mammothfan says:
    June 19, 2018 at 12:44 pm

    Tom Brady tore his ACL and missed a season. John Elway played his entire career with his torn.
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    I’m sure the hay and oats helped with the pain.

    🙂

  60. lgw91s says:
    June 19, 2018 at 6:44 am
    That was a disaster for the NFL. At one point, they discovered it was an NFL employee stealing the k-balls, after originally saying the balls were being exchanged and doctored by the Patriots. That story simply disappeared.

    =================================

    Regarding the NFL employee, you have members of the media looking a player’s social media accounts and trying to determine the significance of posts, but no one can look into Scott Miller and his theft of footballs. Miller worked for the auction arm of the NFL and was stealing footballs intended for charity auctions. That seems like a juicy story, but we never heard anything about more about it. Instead, let’s try and figure out if there’s a secret meaning in Julio Jones’ latest instagram post.

  61. Tommyribs
    And no, I am not a Pats fan, I am A GIANTS fan. I respect Brady and Bellichik, but I am a Neutral Observer.

    They got RAILROADED.
    _______

    Is the Giants equipment guy named the deflator and has he ever taken the footballs in the restroom before the games and then lied about a nonexistent restroom? We don’t know but I bet I have a better chance at winning the lottery than the Giants equip guy being named the deflator.

  62. mammothfan says:
    June 19, 2018 at 1:00 pm

    9 Super Bowls in 18 years? I think your math is off. Typical uneducated pats fan
    ——
    8 Super Bowls in 18 years, 9 in 23 years. Is there really a difference? 🙂

  63. Theevidencesaysotherwise says:
    June 19, 2018 at 11:12 am
    Delusional Cheatriot fans lol

    What’s the odds a guy named the deflator takes the footballs into the bathroom without permission and lies about it and lies about using a urinal that didn’t exist.

    This was after Grigson sent an email saying it’s common knowledge the Cheats take air out of their balls.

    The deflator asked for new kicks and threatened to go to ESPN

    Brady lied about the deflator and didn’t fully cooperate and the Pats didn’t fully cooperate.

    And it goes on and on with the circumstantial evidence.

    Cheaters keep deflecting the truth with your lies and keep supporting your cheater QB and team.
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    You know why you keep re-posting this stuff? Because you and everybody else knows the NFL failed to prove it. I can accept the notion that there was stuff that smelled. BUT that still doesn’t mean the NFL even remotely proved it.

    McNally could have been taking a pi$$. Was it proven one way or the other? Nope.
    Was there a single piece of correspondence between Brady and McNally? Nope.
    Was it proven that Brady knew McNally? Nope.
    Etc
    Etc

    The circumstantial evidence was not enough. The NFL knew it and any fan that has followed this sham knows it. Which was exactly why the NFL needed to manufacture science in order to try to stick it all together. Unfortunately they’re even worse at that than trying to legislate a game that has been working fine for decades. In the end Brady may not be credible but the NFL is even less and never proved the claims made against Brady. For as much as you want to post that implicates Brady there’s a legion more that disproves it.

  64. Theevidencesaysotherwise says:
    June 19, 2018 at 1:30 pm
    Tommyribs
    And no, I am not a Pats fan, I am A GIANTS fan. I respect Brady and Bellichik, but I am a Neutral Observer.

    They got RAILROADED.
    _______

    Is the Giants equipment guy named the deflator and has he ever taken the footballs in the restroom before the games and then lied about a nonexistent restroom? We don’t know but I bet I have a better chance at winning the lottery than the Giants equip guy being named the deflator.
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    No. Instead they lie about authentic equipment being sold to the public.

  65. mammothfan says:
    June 19, 2018 at 1:36 pm
    Yeah the patriots are full of integrity****
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    They aren’t but than again neither are the Broncos. Which makes the irony hilarious.

  66. Tom Brady tore his ACL and missed a season. John Elway played his entire career with his torn.
    _____________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Maybe Elway should have taken a year off. Then maybe an overwhelming majority of football would be calling him the GOAT.

  67. Grigson asked Sean Sullivan to send him an email only after the Ravens game. If Sean Sullivan had that kind of info of “everyone knows” Brady deflates balls, there is no way on earth this would have been kept quiet for so long.

    and

    This was after Grigson sent an email saying it’s common knowledge the Cheats take air out of their balls.

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    The Colts equipment guys both told Ted Wells that “everyone knows” the Patriots tamper with footballs. When Wells asked who they heard this from or when, neither guy could provide any information. You’d think if “everyone” supposedly knows about something, they would have been able to say “Talk to this guy on the Bills” or “Watch this particular play during a Patriots-Chiefs game.” The Colts basis for making these claims was unsupported, high school level gossip. An objective investigation would have viewed any statements from Indianapolis as suspicious and unreliable. Since Wells was directed by the NFL to find the Patriots guilty, he didn’t try to verify the comments from the Colts equipment guys at all.

  68. Elway would’ve caught that pass in the Super Bowl. In fact he did against the redskins. I know they still got crushed but Elway drug those 80’s teams to the Super Bowl.

  69. mammothfan says:
    June 19, 2018 at 2:36 pm
    Elway would’ve caught that pass in the Super Bowl. In fact he did against the redskins. I know they still got crushed but Elway drug those 80’s teams to the Super Bowl.
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    Based on what? Exactly one more reception than Brady? LMAO

  70. Brady did the right thing in letting it go. It was all about retribution for domination by the Patriots and hard feelings over what many believed was the Patriots getting off too easy for Spygate. Only in the NFL would this go on. The NBA owners are all about the product of the league as a business and wouldn’t go after someone like Brady. Now, it’s a game where they target different players left and right. It’s gruesome and they show the players who has the true power.

  71. aarons444 says:
    June 19, 2018 at 3:26 pm
    Gaming just became a syndrome… time to do the same for Pats fan.

    You are both the victOR and the victIM.. the ultimate absurdity.
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    Absurd was asking intelligent people to believe weather has no impact on ball deflation.

  72. mammothfan says:
    June 19, 2018 at 2:36 pm
    Elway would’ve caught that pass in the Super Bowl. In fact he did against the redskins. I know they still got crushed but Elway drug those 80’s teams to the Super Bowl.

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    Good for Johnny CapCheat.

    He was the worst SB QB in history and cheated to get himself 2 rings to fill his ego, with underwhelming performances in those games, too. By the time anyone sat on their couch, the Donkos were blown off the field in Super Bowls. The last one in the Reeves Era was an abomination of competition, 55-10.

    His TD/INT ratio all time is also poor in line with Dan Fouts or a Brett Favre.

    Nowhere near GOAt status.

  73. You know why you keep re-posting this stuff? Because you and everybody else knows the NFL failed to prove it. I can accept the notion that there was stuff that smelled. BUT that still doesn’t mean the NFL even remotely proved it.

    McNally could have been taking a pi$$. Was it proven one way or the other? Nope.
    Was there a single piece of correspondence between Brady and McNally? Nope.
    Was it proven that Brady knew McNally? Nope.
    Etc
    Etc

    The circumstantial evidence was not enough. The NFL knew it and any fan that has followed this sham knows it. Which was exactly why the NFL needed to manufacture science in order to try to stick it all together. Unfortunately they’re even worse at that than trying to legislate a game that has been working fine for decades. In the end Brady may not be credible but the NFL is even less and never proved the claims made against Brady. For as much as you want to post that implicates Brady there’s a legion more that disproves it.

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    Exactly. They got caught lying in federal court and these people are still complete morons, making fools of themselves.

    56 proven lies in the Wells Report. And, these were lies discovered by people who aren’t even Pats fans.

    lmao

    And to think one framejob was used to piggyback off of the first framejob.

    The Pats lost at least 2 Super Bowls with 1st rd picks missing for them on the field, in SB 46 and SB 53.

    In SB 42, we know the lie from the magical Walkthrough tape on the eve of SB 42, another defamation cheapshot that has gone unpunished, was a distraction the players later admitted.

    Again, this does not happen to any other team in the NFL or in sports. This is patently unique to how Goodell “manages” the Pats incredible machine-like domination which was never supposed to happen once the salary cap concept came about in 11993.

    The real cheater, the real story, is that Goodell is the cheater. He’s won in some ways. The Pats traversed through his cheating in 2016, but in 3 other postseasons his cheating has held and helped the opponents of the PAts.

    This past year we also saw 2 free TDs for Philly and clearly incorrect calls on replay.

    These aren’t even opinions. These are facts.

  74. Theevidencesaysotherwise says:
    June 19, 2018 at 1:30 pm
    Tommyribs
    And no, I am not a Pats fan, I am A GIANTS fan. I respect Brady and Bellichik, but I am a Neutral Observer.

    They got RAILROADED.
    _______

    Is the Giants equipment guy named the deflator and has he ever taken the footballs in the restroom before the games and then lied about a nonexistent restroom? We don’t know but I bet I have a better chance at winning the lottery than the Giants equip guy being named the deflator.

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    Here’s a fact for you, high school droput. Just because someone jokes about an action or a topic, does not mean there is sinister intent.

    This is why the answers to the questions by both McNally and Jastremski, along with Brady’s 4 hour interview on this subject, would be vital to a jury, for example.

    The mere fact both Jastremski and McNally were interviewed an appalling 4 times, is proof they had nothing and were simply trying to use words they would use, and string them altogether to frame. Duh. It’s an old cop trick when interrogating.

    The Pats co-operated fully and completely. Period… (even though they knew a framejob was yet again possible).

    Maybe their joking about Brady’s perfectionism is tied to maybe Jastremski asking McNally to do one more check on the air for him, while he tends to other gameday tasks? That’s one possibility.

    So, of course the person prepping the balls, would be inflating and/or deflating to get them set at 12.5.

    If this was true, it’s highly, highly suspicious no ref during a pre game check or during the game noticed anything the entire time, only AFTER Brady told Harbaugh to check the rulebook after his Millennial inducing whine fest about formations. This ONLY happened after Brady said what he said about Harbaugh, a guy who was caught cheating with Goodell durin the Ray Rice Fiasco of summer 2014, where Goodell LIED TWICE, being called a liar by judge, Barbara JOnes in court. Nice, huh?

    This is your source, eh? A lying, cheating commissioner. Sweet. This makes YOU also a cheater for approving of such illegal and outlandish behaviors with consumer fraud over a multi billion dollar company.

    You need to get t oa college to boos that IQ up a bit. Good luck.

  75. aarons444 says:
    June 19, 2018 at 3:26 pm
    Gaming just became a syndrome… time to do the same for Pats fan.

    You are both the victOR and the victIM.. the ultimate absurdity.

    0 3 Rate This

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    What’s absurd is your brain capacity for someone who wants to appear intelligent here.

    Your jealousy and anger towards the Pats literally consumes your everyday life. Think about that, Erin.

    The Pats have surged right past your bandwagon Packer fandom from California, and your Packers 1920s, 1960s successes, fade in comparison to what the Pats have done in the cap era in the face of a cheating commissioner.

    Tell us, Erin, did Lombardi face a cheating Rozelle back in the day, changing rules in the offseason targeting BG, allowing framejobs via other franchises’s requests, steal draft picks from GB as a result, and try to create distractions for them as they went to league championship games?

    Tell us…Did that happen?

    lol

  76. nflfan12blog says:
    June 19, 2018 at 9:46 am

    If he cheated he cheated- fine. But can someone point out how? The Wells report sure didn’t, and of course NFL said in court they had no evidence towards Brady. the fact that there were 2 DIFFERENT needles that varied by nearly .4 PSI should have ENDED ANY impartial investigation. The judgement was about the CBA, not about the facts in the case- the initial suit- WHICH BRADY WON seems to get ignored. Frankly there is FAR more evidence Petyon did HGH than anything against Brady.

    If anyone thinks Brady needed the “crutch” of lower PSI balls- please- since the Deflategate game:

    3 Superbowl appearances.
    Greatest SB Comeback
    Most yards EVER in a SB TWICE- breaking his own record.
    2 Superbowl wins.
    2 Superbowl MVP’s
    1 Regular season MVP

    And maybe his greatest achievement of having Goodell grovel TWICE before him.

    I know people hate Brady- but gimme a break with “Deflategate” already.
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    Not to mention that the Patriots beat the Colts even worse in the second half of the 2015 AFCCG, and that was after the referees over-inflated the footballs at halftime.

  77. Yea right. I guess two ball boys took it on themselves to mess with the balls and then when it blew up they took off not to be heard from. Only New England fans use the excuse Brady did not need the balls messed with,

  78. pastabelly says:
    June 19, 2018 at 3:26 pm
    Brady did the right thing in letting it go. It was all about retribution for domination by the Patriots and hard feelings over what many believed was the Patriots getting off too easy for Spygate. Only in the NFL would this go on. The NBA owners are all about the product of the league as a business and wouldn’t go after someone like Brady. Now, it’s a game where they target different players left and right. It’s gruesome and they show the players who has the true power.

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    I don’t agree. A defamation suit or even the threat of one may have gotten cheater Goodell fired.

    Where does this end? If you had told me they would frame the Pats again in 2008, I would have told you the risk was way too great after we learned what we did, after the framejob occurred and how obvious that was.

    These same dopes who believe Goodell can’t even piece together WHY Goodell was so nervous about Matt Walsh.

    It’s because it would show what BB said was true. The tapes were all edited, so there is no way they’d be used for a game that day, which was the original way it was presented by ESPN.

    And, if Walsh’s tapes showed the other teams standing on the sidelines, filming NE’s sidelines, which they did, (Goodell just didn’t show us those)), then his whole claim that only NE was in violation, hence the severity of the punishment, would be completely compromised.

    As we know, all teams did this, do it, and there is no spot checks on tapes AS PROMISED back then similarly to the PSI data we were supposed to see as paying customers.

    This Edelman “suspension” reeks, too. They can’t even tell him what the suspension is for and if it’s true, it’s the one without proper labeling, there is no way they can suspend him, especially on the heels of them covering for Manning’s cheating with HGH and lying about it.

    So, I am just saying, in Goodell’s mind, he can cheat and stand behind Article 46 as a result.

    Only exposing the cheaters (Goodell and the owners involved – Jones, Irsay, Bisciotti, Johnson, Mara and Rooney), or the threat of it, may end these sheningans and consumer fraud.

    I would say Mara and Snyder teamed up on Jones last year and Zeke Elliott had money stolen over their petty cheating ways.

  79. melikefootball says:
    June 19, 2018 at 4:57 pm
    Yea right. I guess two ball boys took it on themselves to mess with the balls and then when it blew up they took off not to be heard from. Only New England fans use the excuse Brady did not need the balls messed with,

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    What is the motive? Are you honestly this stupid? This framejob comes on the heels of Brady telling Harbaugh to check the rulebook.

    THe Pats know they’re being cheated and watched like a hawk, held to a totally different standard. The “Spygate” framejob proves that.

    So, there is no way what was claimed even makes sense on that level either.

    Did Brady’s hand size shrink? Why would a perfectionist leave it up to some guy he doesn’t even know or could trust to do it?

    It does not make sense and a half PSI is so small, it doesn’t make sense anyway.

    The NFL made a fool of itself again and the ratings continue to drop because fans are sick of Goodell’s cheating more so than NE’s dominance in the cap era.

    The Saints, Pats and Cowboys in particular have been victim of the cheating.

    Ironic Jerrah got a dose of his own medicine last year, eh?

  80. melikefootball says:
    June 19, 2018 at 4:57 pm
    Yea right. I guess two ball boys took it on themselves to mess with the balls and then when it blew up they took off not to be heard from. Only New England fans use the excuse Brady did not need the balls messed with,
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    And only fans who hate the Patriots and Brady can claim the balls were messed with (forget about the supposed scheme by Brady to do so) when there’s little to no evidence to suggest that was the case.

  81. Your jealousy and anger towards the Pats literally consumes your everyday life.
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    I respect the Patriots.

    You on the other hand……

  82. The fact that all of these Patriot fans have too constantly defend their QB and spew name calling towards others and throw up titles and statistics is quite amusing!

    Thank you Tom Brady!

  83. lastly, since we don’t see the questions each person was asked, as if that in itself is not suspicious enough, we never see the contexts of any of the texts, until the Pats themselves released the Wells Report COunter-report, which exposes the NFL’s attempt to cheat so badly anyway.
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    Regarding the questions and answers between Wells and Jastremski/McNally/Other Patriots personnel, the league refused to reveal any of this information during Brady’s hearing. Besides putting Brady’s side at a disadvantage (they were trying to construct a defense based on limited information, slanted in the league’s favor,) this creates a dilemma that the Patriots haters completely ignore: Their line of thinking is that the Patriots and Brady are Guilty! Guilty! Guilty! because they allegedly didn’t fully cooperate. The league concealing information and not cooperating is totally fine, though.

  84. Theevidencesaysotherwise says:
    June 19, 2018 at 1:30 pm

    Is the Giants equipment guy named the deflator and has he ever taken the footballs in the restroom before the games and then lied about a nonexistent restroom? We don’t know but I bet I have a better chance at winning the lottery than the Giants equip guy being named the deflator.

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    No one was named “the deflator”. The term “deflator” was mentioned *ONCE* in thousands of texts examined by Wells and his team, and was used by McNally to refer to himself *ONCE*.
    And this was in the off season, many months before the game in question.

  85. Destroying your cell phone while under league’s investigation was really dumb, Tom.

  86. He accepted the punishment because he had no other choice. The fact that he still won’t admit what he did just tells you that this team is going to keep on cheating. Brady will be in the Asterisk museum with Lance Armstrong, Tonya Harding, and Rosie Ruiz.

  87. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    June 20, 2018 at 11:29 am
    Destroying your cell phone while under league’s investigation was really dumb, Tom.
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    It was. If only marginally. I do feel people tend to forget he made it clear to the investigators they weren’t getting his phone before being replaced. That said, the narrative merely shifts from destroying a phone to not providing a phone the league had no right to ask for. It doesn’t appease the neophytes despite it never being a problem before (a la BFavre). The fact the NFL never looked at the cell logs (despite asking for them) speaks volumes to how vital that phone really was anyway.

  88. takeyourpunishmentandquitwhininglikeababy says:
    June 20, 2018 at 12:03 pm
    He accepted the punishment because he had no other choice. The fact that he still won’t admit what he did just tells you that this team is going to keep on cheating. Brady will be in the Asterisk museum with Lance Armstrong, Tonya Harding, and Rosie Ruiz.
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    You know because 11+ PSI …

    rolleyes

  89. The only thing the NFL had going for it was Article 46 and crazily enough, it was Article 46 that won their case. Not the facts of the case, or the science or the testimony, all of which were obviously not in NFL’s favor, it was the CBA. NFLPA signed a bad deal and a bunch of NFL “officials” didn’t understand physics. Its that simple.

    If Goodell was really concerned about “getting it right”, he would have released the PSI logs by now after promising “transparency”. And the teams that have been caught since then with either low PSI or tampering with footballs, would have been punished (which, as in the Pats case, would have been stupid). But Goodell decided to ignore those instances and his promises which further cements the fact that Deflategate was a horrifically run by Goodell and a big waste of time and money. Its indisputable.

  90. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    June 20, 2018 at 11:29 am
    Destroying your cell phone while under league’s investigation was really dumb, Tom.

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    They don’t have subpoena power and they didn’t want his phone and they were provided with all electronic data. And the NFL denied Brady’s side equal discovery, which, in a legal setting in incalculably and exponentially worse. Your point is shallow. Its almost as if you willfully didn’t do any research at all, much like all of your Pats trolling.

  91. Patriot fans might as well accept the razzing over the team’s many “Gate” scandals.
    It won’t stop anytime soon, but cheer up, it won’t last forever.
    After all, the ChiSox fans don’t still get reminded of the Black Sox scandal.
    And the Giants fans don’t have to hear about Fred Merkle anymore.
    So eventually it’ll stop… Just wait 80 or 90 years.

  92. johnnycantread says:
    June 21, 2018 at 8:06 am
    Patriot fans might as well accept the razzing over the team’s many “Gate” scandals.
    It won’t stop anytime soon, but cheer up, it won’t last forever.
    After all, the ChiSox fans don’t still get reminded of the Black Sox scandal.
    And the Giants fans don’t have to hear about Fred Merkle anymore.
    So eventually it’ll stop… Just wait 80 or 90 years.
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    I guess Pats fans will have to take succor in all those tainted trophies.

    Oh … darn.

    🙂

  93. Pat’s fans will have to constantly defend and argue for the rest of their lives the against the scrutiny that their franchise quarterback has put on this organization and fan base, just as it has been shown here in this discussion post.

  94. Benjamin Davis says:
    June 21, 2018 at 9:47 am
    Pat’s fans will have to constantly defend and argue for the rest of their lives the against the scrutiny that their franchise quarterback has put on this organization and fan base, just as it has been shown here in this discussion post.
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    Again, there’s 5 fairly large obstacles insulating Pats fans from all of this. History won’t highlight the *s any more than the dynasties that got away with similar “cheating”. Only the fickle fans who have a clear axe to grind and an incurable oedipal complex will continue to harp on it.

  95. Just a little spot check for all of the TB12 haters. TB12’s record since the Framegate game is as follows:

    43-10 overall
    7-2 playoffs
    3 Super Bowls
    2 Super Bowl wins
    2 Super Bowl MVPs
    1 League MVP

    Do you really think this is the record of someone in need of help from a ball boy? Give it a rest. Roger and his henchman saw an opportunity to build up Roger’s relationships with 31 owners in advance of contract negotiations, which Roger won 200 to 0.

  96. The Colts said that D’Qwell Jackson said the ball felt a little flat. D’Qwell Jackson denies he ever said that.
    The tweet about ’11 out of 12′ was completely false.
    So what is it that is being investigated? False claims by the Colts. Right off the bat this whole affair is on shaky ground at best.
    Brady offered the investigators the information pertinent to the investigation on a silver platter. They declined and said his phone was not needed, and he was praised by them for his cooperation. Keep in mind, he is an ‘A’ list celebrity who is constantly hounded by paparazzi, and people who represent websites like tmz.com. Do you really think that he was going to give his personal phone to an organization that had already shown it’s willingness to spread false information about him and his employer?
    These are facts.

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