Jameis Winston, if nothing else, is guilty of being dumb

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Buccaneers quarterback Jameis Winston may actually be innocent of the allegations made against him by an Uber driver in March 2016. Even if he is, he’s guilty of being dumb.

This incident happened less than a year after the Buccaneers drafted him under the cloud of a rape allegation that resulted in a civil lawsuit, not to mention other boneheaded off-field incidents, including the stealing of crab legs and the shouting of a vulgar phrase. At the time Winston allegedly groped the Uber driver, the rape lawsuit was still pending.

Again, maybe he’s innocent of the latest allegations. But he apparently did enough to put himself within the bubble of plausible accusation — and given his history and the then-pending rape lawsuit, that’s just dumb.

It’s still not clear what the NFL contends that he did, but multiple reports indicate he’s not being suspended for failing to timely report the allegation, but for the underlying conduct. Which means that the alleged victim in this case told a sufficiently compelling story to the NFL, and/or Winston didn’t.

Which means that Winston did something that invited an allegation that at a minimum will mar his career and at worst could completely derail it. At this point, much depends on what the NFL specifically concludes, and the manner in which media and fans react to it.

45 responses to “Jameis Winston, if nothing else, is guilty of being dumb

  1. Every male Tampa fan has a sister,mother,daughter, wife/fiancee, or female friend. Not only is the Groper-In-Chief watching how you react, America is as well…

  2. nhpats
    Jun 22, 2018, 11:00 AM EDT
    Allegations are all it takes today to ruin a person’s life….

    While I agree with your overall premise I don’t think it applies to this particular guy

  3. Winston is a big waste of talent. Should be a top 5 QB but he can’t get out of his own way. Only old rich white guys get to behave this way. I hope the NFL isn’t just letting the Redskins owners walk with what they did either.

  4. whodatalien says:
    June 22, 2018 at 11:08 am
    for as long as ive been watching football fans and the media have always scrutinized black qbs harder than just about any other players

    Accused of rape, shoots out windows with a B.B. gun, steals crab legs, accused of sexually assualting an Uber driver…thus guy could be any color of the rainbow and he would be highly scrutinized.
    And rightly so.

  5. Come on man. What you see is what you get. It’s always been obvious this guy while talented is a complete moron and plain stupid. He’s made it up with rah rah. He’s just a mental midget.

  6. The Groper

    Goodell strikes a deal with the Groper

    Goodell thinks framing someone for deflating balls is worth 4 games, but sexual assault is 3.

    LMAO

    Gee, I wonder why ratings are tumbling?

  7. won’tyouguessmyname says:

    June 22, 2018 at 10:58 am

    Every male Tampa fan has a sister,mother,daughter, wife/fiancee, or female friend. Not only is the Groper-In-Chief watching how you react, America is as well…

    But yet you all had no problem putting a guy that thinks it’s ok to touch women when he wants in office!!!

  8. I would hope one of the owners of the Bucs, Darcie Glazer Kassewitz, speaks up LOUDLY and puts pressure on her brothers to get rid of Jamis. He should’nt be the face of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

  9. You guys who keep harping on what Trump said seem to forget the what, 13? rape accusations against Clinton? The affairs of JFK, the weird public groping by Biden, the death of Mary Jo with Ted Kennedy etc.

  10. won’tyouguessmyname says:
    June 22, 2018 at 10:58 am
    Every male Tampa fan has a sister,mother,daughter, wife/fiancee, or female friend. Not only is the Groper-In-Chief watching how you react, America is as well…

    ———

    Thankfully Bill is no longer President. The White-house interns are safe once again.

  11. teal379 says:
    June 22, 2018 at 11:51 am
    You guys who keep harping on what Trump said seem to forget the what, 13? rape accusations against Clinton? …
    ——————————–

    There is no denying that Bill Clinton was, at best, a philandering pig, but not to the tune of 13 rape allegations. FWIW, there was one rape allegation.

    OTOH, Bill Clinton, for all his many mistakes, did not throw thousands of innocent children in jail, or celebrate adversarial dictators like Vladimir Putin while spitting at our actual allies, as your coward of a racist hero Donald Trump, a/k/a Cadet Bone Spurs, has been doing.

  12. Maybe the NFL can do a “Football Life” about him after his career is over. Just like Warren “I was just choking her to calm her down” Moon. At least in Chad Johnsons he talked about it as a mistake and didnt defend it

  13. I saw this disaster coming a mile away and told anybody who’d listen Mariota was the better choice by far. This guys an idiot, a jerk and oh by the way, he’s mediocre at best. Never won anything and never will IMO.

  14. whodatalien says:

    June 22, 2018 at 11:08 am

    for as long as ive been watching football fans and the media have always scrutinized black qbs harder than just about any other players.
    ——————
    Keep on whining!!! smh

  15. As a Starting QB, an overall #1 pic, he is i believe 20-28 with no playoff’s as a starter?
    The boneheaded poking the Saints player in the game last year among his other issues.
    a legit question To The Tampa die hards-Why do you even want him? really what has he done for your team?
    Living in Tampa and a Phins fan- i can relate to it all as we have had our fair share and
    IF T-Hill can’t come thru this year he should be cut also, time to move on.

  16. So what is the NFL going to do about Ronald Darby….Winston’s “enabler” and chief “voyeur” who likes to film his homeys exploits….?

  17. If you watch this dude during the “Eat a W” then you have no doubt that this dude is about as dumb as it gets. Tampa is the Cleveland of the nfc.

  18. I still believe the NFL has this ‘zero’ tolerance policy since the NFL blew Ray Rice case. Since that time if any female says anything against you, the NFL finds you guilty and you get suspended. It doesn’t matter when you say, or what police investigation shows, or what a witness says. In the eyes of the NFL your guilty. Signing a standard NFL contract give the NFL under policy of conduct believed to be ‘detrimental to the NFL’ the right to take whatever action the NFL wants.

    If memory serves me right, there was an other person riding with Winston. That person says he never saw Winston group the Uber driver. Winston apologize to the female driver if he made her uncomfortable.

    It happened to Zeke Elliott and now Jamis Winston. No real evidence. Basically it’s a she said he did thing… But the NFL has that right to take action if the NFL believes it harmed their image as a league. The NFL image was harmed when they blew the Ray Rice case!

  19. I wholeheartedly agree with Florio here. Whether he did it or not, he knew he was on a short leash with the NFL and the public because of all the allegations in college. He knew he had to behave like a perfect angel, and more importantly, not be in situations where even false accusations could be made. He wasn’t careful–or he actually did the despicable act–and now he’s paying the price.

    I don’t perceive Winston as “dumb”, though. I imagine he was just drunk and got touchy-feely. I think he’ll learn his lesson, and in a couple of years this will all fade away, like it did with Ben Roethlisberger, who was accused of something FAR more sinister. Nobody talks about that now.

    If I’m wrong, though, and he does do something else similar to this, then yeah, I don’t want to have to root for him anymore.

  20. The amount of closeted and bigoted Millennials who support Trump’s right wing extremist policies, chaneling the closest thing we’ve seen to Hitler ever, is vbery disturbing.

    Our society is moving backwards. We have dumb and naive MIllennials everywhere in basements, unemployed, unwilling to learn or get high education.

  21. Don’t know all the facts in the case however he has been falsely accused of something before. A petty thief and a d bag definitely but a rapist or someone who randomly assaults people? Something doesn’t seem right here.

  22. theimmaculatedeception says:
    … He’ll soon join Johnny Football in the CFL
    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::
    I don’t think Canada would let him in the country.

  23. The knocks on Winston going into year 4 of his career are exactly the same as they were going into year 1 of his career, questionable decision making on and off the field.

    That said, I don’t buy the idea that he “shouldn’t put himself in these situations”. The NFL hasn’t released their findings from this investigation, and likely never will, but either he is guilty of the accusation or not. The situation of being in an Uber with his friends is honestly a situation everyone, NFL players included, should be encouraged to put themselves in. There have been plenty of examples both inside and out of the sports world to illustrate the dangers of not taking an Uber.

    I wouldn’t be the least surprised if he’s guilty, but if he isn’t then we can’t just say he shouldn’t have been there.

  24. Whenever I get the opportunity, I troll Jerrah for all the dumb things that come out of his mouth and the bad decisions he makes. However, not everything about Jerrah is trollable. He was smart enough to recognize the need for and hire a baby sitter for Dez. Maybe Jason Licht or Dirk Koetter should consider following Jerrah’s lead for Mr. Crablegs.

  25. Goodell proved with Elliott that he doesn’t use evidence in his decisions. He just uses twitter sentiment. There was zero evidence vs Zeke and the nfl’s own investigator recommended no discipline for Zeke.

    With that in mind, Jameis is just cutting his losses. Take the 3 and get it over with because Goodell was probably looking for an excuse to punish Jameis for his college allegations.

  26. “alongthegulf says:
    June 22, 2018 at 12:49 pm

    If memory serves me right, there was an other person riding with Winston. That person says he never saw Winston group the Uber driver. Winston apologize to the female driver if he made her uncomfortable.

    It happened to Zeke Elliott and now Jamis Winston. No real evidence. Basically it’s a she said he did thing…”

    You know, it may very well be a “he said/she said” scenario. She is lying or he is lying. Let’s look at the circumstances…..you state there were others in the car and Winston wasn’t even in the front seat. So there are two additional witnesses who testified on his behalf. Now we go to her story. She says there was nobody else in the car but the two of them. So here we have our conundrum. But lets look at things with a non-biased eye. What makes more sense….a young lady who makes up a story with THREE witnesses to discredit her or a football player who gets a friend or two to testify (i.e. perjure themselves) to save a rich, incredibly stupid buddy? Somehow, scenario two seems much more plausible.

  27. Jameis Winston, if nothing else, is guilty of being dumb

    I don’t think nobody ever confused him with a rocket scientist. As I recall he had a single digit wonderlic score. I doubt that surprises people either. I remember when Tampa drafted him they said they believed he learned from all his incidents at FSU. I guess he didn’t.

    It’ll be interesting to see where his career goes from here on out. His salary this year is very reasonable. If he plays well they may keep him. After all, the only thing that matters is if you can play. If he has a terrible year I wouldn’t be surprised if they got rid of him.

    This guy just can’t seem to stop doing dumb things.

  28. biffbiffington says:
    June 22, 2018 at 1:41 pm
    theimmaculatedeception says:
    … He’ll soon join Johnny Football in the CFL
    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::
    I don’t think Canada would let him in the country.
    ============

    So you are saying Canada is racist…

  29. the “grouper in chief” may indeed still be in office but the rapist in chief finished his final term in 2001 to the applause of the politically correct.

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