Jalen Ramsey elaborates on his assessment of Jimmy Garoppolo

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Jaguars cornerback Jalen Ramsey recently threw cold water on the notion that #Jimmy already is as good as #Tommy, pointing out that the 49ers scored 44 against the AFC finalists due in part to the scheme the team runs. Ramsey has elaborated on his remarks, via Twitter.

“Jimmy is good, I said that but based off our game, only 1 Wr had more than 25 yards on us & most of that came off 1 catch for 24 yards,” Ramsey said, in response to a NinersNation.com blurb about the comments. “[H]e used his FB & TE for big gains off play action & their running game was also good that game. That’s scheme!”

Said Ramsey on NFL Network regarding Garoppolo: “What did he play, five games? He has good potential, I think he’ll be a good player, but my experience in playing him, it was a lot of scheme stuff. It wasn’t like he was just dicing us up.”

The broader point, whether Ramsey specifically made it or not, is that defenses eventually will have enough film to understand how Garoppolo operates the scheme, what he does well, what he doesn’t do well, what he tries to do when what he wants to do is taken away, etc. That will be one of the various challenges the 49ers face when trying to build on the unexpected success the team had once Garoppolo became the starting quarterback.

Similarly, Garoppolo may have to do more/other things when defenses shut down play-action passes to fullbacks and tight ends, and when the running game isn’t working the way it should.

35 responses to “Jalen Ramsey elaborates on his assessment of Jimmy Garoppolo

  1. Jimmy G played 7 games, and won them all. Those are not meaningless games because without 2 of those wins, the Patriots might not have reached the Super Bowl the year Brady was suspended 4 games. The fact remains that Jimmy G beat 3 teams that made the playoffs in 2017 while the Baltimore Ravens did not beat a single playoff bound team that same season. To put Jimmy G. down, one has to use lies, damned lied or statistics.

  2. See Dak Prescott for example, great first year then not so great the next year. Was it caused by the players around him? We should know more after this year.

  3. He used his fb and tight end off of playaction? aka he responded to the circumstances and took what was out there to win the game. That’s called good football. And as a defense, getting carved up.

  4. Stop jumping all over athletes who give honest opinions instead of coach speak. He even says he thinks he will be good.

  5. The Forty-Niner Faithful are pleased to have a QB who can run a scheme with precision. That is not a pejorative, and does not equate to being a “game manager.” What we saw from Jimmy G is a QB who makes very quick decisions, and has a quick release, and places the ball in tight windows. It is Shanahan’s job to make sure that his scheme keeps up with the opponents and that Jimmy has viable options on most plays. So far, it seems that Shanahan is capable of producing game plans that can work.

    It is too soon to think this might be as good a combination as Montana-Walsh, but it certainly looks like it might be the same type of recipe. I will gladly take this version of the Niners in exchange for their recent haplessness, including the semi-successful Harbaugh years.

  6. If Jimmy gets any modicum of an outside zone running game going, you’ll really be schemed.

  7. His comments can actually go both ways this time. Yes Jimmy G is very good, but no he did not “dice” the Jags up (242 & 2 is rather pedestrian in NFL now a days).
    Also, with the scheme talk, I see that as more him throwing shade on his DC, basically saying they weren’t put into right situation/ coverages, while also saying that now that Jimmy G has tape on him, he will need to do more.
    Even his teammate is picking up poor tendencies after a few weeks (hand off, he throws) with more tape & even more time (whole offseason), DCs are going to have a better “scheme” to try to contain him even more.
    Let’s see what Jimmy G can do

  8. Niners had an average (at best) o-line, RB that didn’t fit the “scheme” and no #1 receiver and the Jags still got Ginsu’d. Sorry but just b/c that bad take was honest doesn’t mean its exempt from a roasting.

  9. (As my screen name might lead you to believe, I am not a 49ers fan) So let me get this straight, he and his’ hung 44 on you and yours’ and you are calling him over-rated because of scheme. Bottom line you got out-coached and out executed… Seems like the Jags are the over-rated unit here. Am I missing something?

  10. Ramsey shouldn’t have even opened this can of worms. The defense did nothing in that game. He should spend more time trying to figure out what happened and ensure it doesn’t happen again instead of making excuses. I think Ramsey is a good player but I can’t stand all his trash talking.

  11. Jimmy G….very good arm…throws with zip….can throw outside the numbers, also with zip, accurate, puts the ball in tight windows, is mobile, has a quick release, makes good decisions, has very good training with low miles on the odometer. There’s a lot to like and I imagine he can mix it up as defenses start to catch up with him, and will likely be pretty successful. Saying he is better than Tom F. Brady, especially now, is ludicrous. Tom won’t be around “sooner rather than later,” but his resume will likely be untouchable.

  12. Its odd all the guys saying Garrapolo is no good and they tell guys that disagree with them that they are looking at too small a sample size. If one guy is looking at too small a sample size then so is the other so niether should be making deckarative statements.

  13. omeimontis says:
    June 26, 2018 at 3:07 pm
    Jimmy G played 7 games, and won them all. Those are not meaningless games because without 2 of those wins, the Patriots might not have reached the Super Bowl the year Brady was suspended 4 games. The fact remains that Jimmy G beat 3 teams that made the playoffs in 2017 while the Baltimore Ravens did not beat a single playoff bound team that same season. To put Jimmy G. down, one has to use lies, damned lied or statistics.
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    Actually JG didn’t quite play 2 games for the Patriots, he played just short of 6 quarters of meaningful football before he got hurt. Played well, even if there was hardly any tape on him which was Ramsey’s point.

  14. corky2141 says:
    June 26, 2018 at 4:00 pm
    His comments can actually go both ways this time. Yes Jimmy G is very good, but no he did not “dice” the Jags up (242 & 2 is rather pedestrian in NFL now a days).
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    Except for the pesky fact that Jimmy also ran one in for a TD. So, the ‘9ers fans are going to take that all day long.

    They hung 3 TDs on the Jags in the 4th alone. That’s called nailing the coffin shut.

    If I played on the defense for the team that was on the wrong end of 44 points, I’d shut my infernal yap and wait patiently for my opportunity at redemption.

  15. I still think it is absolutely crazy that a guy who has 7, yes 7 career starts gets 27 million a year. He better earn that paycheck or i will be the 1st one to rip him. Also the media who are already crowning the Niners as Super Bowl champs are totally out to lunch.

  16. We’ll find out how good Jimmy G is in the first game against the Vikes. I think people underestimated him, I saw Seattle play them(Niners) and they were horrible, I almost felt pity for them, but now the league wont overlook them, and the Rams wont sit their starters against them again either. they’ll be better but they still have a long way to go. I’d hold the SB talk just yet

  17. Yeah jalen, it’s scheme. But you still have to be good enough to run the scheme. Every team ran a scheme against the jags. only one QB made them look horrible. And to the writer, you can scheme against Shanahans offense. But scheme can’t always make up for fast reads and a lightning release. Try and scheme against play action to TE’s and FB’s and leave the middle of the field wide open which is where Jimmy is most accurate with his throws. Good luck with that! Not to mention the o-line is better and he has a few new nice prices on offense. Tape or no Tape, Jimmy G is for real!

  18. The 49ers were 1-10 with that scheme and personnel group before JimmyG became the QB. The receiving corps was very poor consisting of:

    Goodwin — career underachiever who finally broke out under JimmyG.
    Taylor — short, not terribly fast rookie 5th round draft pick.
    Kittle — rookie 5th round TE.
    And bunch of UFDAs & street free agents.

    What he accomplished:

    Opening drive TD, something the Jags hadn’t given up in nearly two years.
    Lead the 49ers to the highest scoring game against the Jags since Week 3 of 2015.
    Completed 70% of his passes for a 102.4 QB rating.
    Made the Jags look silly all game long and completely embarrassed them on national TV.

  19. corky2141 says:
    June 26, 2018 at 4:00 pm
    His comments can actually go both ways this time. Yes Jimmy G is very good, but no he did not “dice” the Jags up (242 & 2 is rather pedestrian in NFL now a days).

    He completed 70% of his passes. That’s dicing. Like it or not.

    Yardage totals tend to be suppressed when you’re winning. We all know this as winning teams tend to pass less than loosing teams.

    Further, when you’re highly efficient in scoring drives you also tend to pass less since you have fewer ‘pointless’ drives that pad stats but don’t lead to scoring. In the first half, the 49ers passed for 187 of those 242 yards. In the second-half they ran ball down the throats of the Jaguars, but JimmyG made multiple critical, drive-continuing/scoring passes even though he didn’t throw a lot or deep.

    Plus he had the Jags so totally rattled in the game they lost their composure, started fighting among themselves doing stupid things on the field, including committing multiple personal fouls on the same play!

  20. That offense dropped a 40 BURGER on the 2nd ranked defense and your calling Jimmy Overrated?

  21. Guess we’ll have to get used to this guy always talking for the next 10 years.. FML!

  22. stucats says:

    June 26, 2018 at 6:33 pm

    I still think it is absolutely crazy that a guy who has 7, yes 7 career starts gets 27 million a year. He better earn that paycheck or i will be the 1st one to rip him. Also the media who are already crowning the Niners as Super Bowl champs are totally out to lunch.
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    How many starts did Matt Flynn have when he signed with Seattle??? I trust Jimmy G and Shanahan together, should be fun to watch!

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