Julian Edelman decision should come soon

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The Patriots should know fairly quickly whether they’ll be starting the season with or without veteran receiver Julian Edelman.

If, as reported, the hearing on his PED suspension began on Monday, the PED policy requires a summary ruling from the arbitrator within three business days after completion of the hearing or receipt of the transcript, whichever comes later. And since it usually takes a little while to generate a transcript of a hearing involving testimony, argument, etc., that three-business-day clock likely won’t be ticking, for now.

Also, the use of the term “business days” means that weekends and holidays don’t count. Which means that, if (for example) the transcript is received by the arbitrator on Friday, June 29, Day One becomes Monday, July 2. Day Two will be Tuesday, July 3. Day Three will be Thursday, July 5.

If the summary ruling is late, Edelman doesn’t automatically win. Instead, the arbitrator ends up being suspended from hearing appeals for the remainder of the season.

Beyond that timeline, the arbitrator could request written briefs to be submitted based on specific issues that arose during the hearing. The parties will have no more than five business days to submit the briefs, which would naturally push the process back accordingly.

Also, keep in mind that the arbitrator for appeals of PED positive tests is now neutral; that’s one of the concessions the NFLPA received when agreeing to HGH testing. So the NFL won’t be reviewing the NFL’s decision. Which gives Edelman something better than a snowball’s chance in Roger Goodell’s coffee for prevailing — if he actually has a strong argument that can get the arbitrator’s attention.

If not, Edelman will miss the first four weeks of the season (vs. the Texans, Jaguars, Lions, and Dolphins), and the Patriots will enter 2018 without Edelman, Danny Amendola, or Brandin Cooks.

59 responses to “Julian Edelman decision should come soon

  1. I fully expect Goodell to continue to cheat the Pats, literally just going through the roster at this point.

    Gronk will be suspended next year for the first 4 games. Goodell will just keep concocting charges and cheating.

    It’s clear he will stop at nothing because of the enabling of Article 46 by the 2 corrupt judges, Chin and Parker.

    No wonder why they rushed the paperwork into have the framejob heard in NYC’s 2nd circuit. They controlled the judges.

  2. Tylawspick6 – Go easy buddy. As a fellow Pats fan I agree with you about Article 46 and Goodell’s abuse of it, but in this case Goodell really has no say in it. Like the article said it’s a nuetral arbitrator that’s reviewing the case and not Goodell checking over his own work. Maybe that will be the difference this time

  3. OK, here’s just a suggestion. We’re all football fans. We love our teams and are passionate about them. I come to this website for news about the NFL, I don’t listen to sports radio anymore because quite frankly I don’t care for someone else’s opinion and/or their “expertise”. Most people that make posts are intelligent others not so much and I get it, jabbing others is entertaining. On another note, I wouldn’t mind some dialogue that’s actually constructive and can make you think about topics. Being a lifelong Pats fan and yes, I was a fan long before 2001 and having season tickets before Bledsoe was QB I consider myself a seasoned fan of my team. That being said I I’d like to see more well thought posts instead of the 5th grade banter. Just a thought.

  4. terripet says:
    June 26, 2018 at 10:00 am
    The cheaters banner will be hung on opening day
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    Well, the Colts are good at hanging participation banners so I’n Sure you are correct….. maybe they can hang it over the speakers to muffle the pumped in music a bit??

  5. This may help New England. It’s more important for Edelman to heal from his knee injury and be good to go in January and February.

  6. terripet says:
    June 26, 2018 at 10:00 am
    The cheaters banner will be hung on opening day
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    If the Colts keep hanging up those banners they won’t have any room left up
    in the rafters for ANY LEGITIMATE title they win…!

  7. Liberty- it’s hard to find intelligent conversation anywhere but looking here is a fool’s errand. I do agree on talk radio- listening to Felger and Mazz isn’t exactly high level.

    On this site you get some good information and the occasionally solid Florio opinion/thought on something but the comments are generally just good for humor.

  8. Crowd noise, not music!!^^^^^^^ lol
    But I think I got my point across…..

    How’s things been going since that #framegate?? DEFLATING I’ll bet!!!
    Is BAD LUCK still throwing nerf footballs to build up his shoulder… you know, the one that was NEVER LISTED on the injury report???

  9. boyso3 says:
    June 26, 2018 at 10:03 am
    Tylawspick6 – Go easy buddy. As a fellow Pats fan I agree with you about Article 46 and Goodell’s abuse of it, but in this case Goodell really has no say in it. Like the article said it’s a nuetral arbitrator that’s reviewing the case and not Goodell checking over his own work. Maybe that will be the difference this time

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    But, that’s the problem. It doesn’t matter what the rules are. That’s my point. How many more times is this guy going to move the goalposts when it involves the Pats? How many more times will he literally concoct a violation? We were told Chin and Parker were neutral, too, but Chin cited the Wells Report and used it as a basis for his decision, which is suspicious, since there are factually 56 proven lies in the report itself, which means you had to have been paid off.

    I don’t expect a federal judge to feature an IQ of 100. That’s impossible, which means Chin and Parker were paid off, which is why they rushed the paperwork into the 2nd circuit and forgot to sing the paperwork. lmao

    There is no way anyone can read the Wells Report and not walk away thinking something was done based on all that crap they threw at the wall trying paint a picture of something sinister that never existed, unless of course, your IQ hovers around 100 as a mouthbreather.

    The fact they released/leaked the idea Edelman failed a test is incredibly suspicious. We never hear about PED test failures during OTAs, because the appeal still has to go through. It’s almost like they wanted to plant this seed to the public to get momentum going, but it’s to the point that ESPN employees like Goilic aren’t even trusting Goodell anymore, and ESPN was their main ally in helping frame the Pats.

  10. razzlejag says:
    June 26, 2018 at 10:24 am
    Liberty- it’s hard to find intelligent conversation anywhere but looking here is a fool’s errand. I do agree on talk radio- listening to Felger and Mazz isn’t exactly high level.

    On this site you get some good information and the occasionally solid Florio opinion/thought on something but the comments are generally just good for humor.

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    Felger and Mazz are mouthpieces for Goodell and approve of cheating the Pats. All they do is regurgiate the lies, to the point people in other markets believe them and hence, think they have inside info.

    The reality is, the beatwriters like Giarid, Howe, Kyed, etc, have the real info, facts and truth because they’re professional.

    Curran used to be that way, but he’s been given orders by NBC executives and has sold out, probably to be able to keep his job.

    This fake scandals are enormous ratings drivers for the media, which is why they align with Goodell.

    The bigger story is really Goodell being caught with his hand in the cookie jar, repeatedly, and the media’s refusal to discuss WHY he’s so ok with brazenly being caught framing and cheating the Pats.

    Some people got into it like Sally Jenkins from Washington Post, and honroable writers like that, but Felger, Mazz and Murray are just weasels and losers hoping to keep that god awful radio station alive as long as possible, which is why they miilk the lies.

    That merger they just had is directly tied to the struggling industry. Don’t be fooled. Them pushing these angles, bashing BB and Brady 24/7, is a huge moneymaker.

  11. @Mike Florio – your replacement on the radio this morning said the NFL decides this rather than an independent neutral arbitrator. You should let this guy know to leave the football to you (and Chris Simms).

  12. Thanks for the detailed explanation of the review process. This is helpful stuff to know, both for this case and future cases.

  13. pastabelly says:
    June 26, 2018 at 10:36 am
    @Mike Florio – your replacement on the radio this morning said the NFL decides this rather than an independent neutral arbitrator. You should let this guy know to leave the football to you (and Chris Simms).

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    This is what I mean..What Florio says is technically correct, but as long as Goodell bastardizes Article 46, it makes a mockery of what the CBA has ALWAYS represented to both sides.

    This is the problem. Goodell framed Brady and then took the league of cheating to another level by testifying in court Article 46 trumps all.

  14. terripet says:
    June 26, 2018 at 10:31 am
    Just in Brady smashed another cellphone

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    This just in: The Tooth Fairy came last night and took your last tooth out of your trailer in Indy.

    Film at 11.

  15. “keep in mind that the arbitrator for appeals of PED positive tests is now neutral”….why do clowns keep bringing up Goodell when he has nothing to do with this? Obviously it’s so they can post another weak diatribe about how unfair it is their team also has to play by the rules.

  16. Also, the use of the term “business days” means that weekends and holidays don’t count. Which means that, if (for example) the transcript is received by the arbitrator on Friday, June 29, Day One becomes Monday, July 2. Day Two will be Tuesday, July 3. Day Three will be Thursday, July 5.

    Thank you on educating us on how business days and holidays work. I’ve always wondered why banks weren’t open on Sunday’s or Christmas Day…

  17. Announcing the results of an appeal almost always takes about a month, according to the Globe. I wouldn’t expect anything until right before camp.

  18. tedmurph says:
    June 26, 2018 at 10:58 am
    I wonder what size tinfoil hat pk 6 wears. He’s more paranoid than Trump.

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    Another naive Millennial, confused as to how the world work$.

    Leave that basement and talk to other humans. It won’t hurt you, little Teddy. There were commissioners before Goodell and before you started surfing the internet and things like this NEVER happened. Like, literally…NEVER.

    NEVER.

    Good luck in night school this summer.

  19. tylawspick6 says:
    June 26, 2018 at 10:47 am

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    This is what I mean..What Florio says is technically correct, but as long as Goodell bastardizes Article 46, it makes a mockery of what the CBA has ALWAYS represented to both sides.

    This is the problem. Goodell framed Brady and then took the league of cheating to another level by testifying in court Article 46 trumps all.
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    This is not governed by Article 46. Brady was. That’s Florio’s point, which is 100% correct. This is why PED suspensions get reduced and some (Richard Sherman) get removed.

  20. I wonder what size tinfoil hat pk 6 wears. He’s more paranoid than Trump.
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    I can’t believe he has computer access in the mental institution!

  21. Goodell continually frames and cheats the Pats.
    Federal judges are being paid off to cheat the Pats.
    Refs threw the SBowl on Goodell’s orders.
    Local radio hosts are mouthpieces for Goodell.
    TCurran is under orders from NBC executives as to what to say.

    That’s called going off the deep end

    Signed, a 55 yr old millenial and season ticket holder for almost 30 yrs

  22. As a Pats fan I truly understand tylawpick6 frustration, but as we all should know, absolute power corrupts absolutely…. Goodell & his staff are PROOF of this….
    Ted Wells was a supposed independent investigator, but we all know THAT was BS…..so I further understand the apprehension he has on believing that the arbitration is truly neutral & that the NFL won’t have some influence in the matter….fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me!!

  23. billshatnerstoupee says:
    June 26, 2018 at 9:58 am
    This poor guy above never stops crying. Get a job dude.
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    The poor guy above never stops following Patriot posts around.Get a job dude.

  24. tedmurph says:
    June 26, 2018 at 11:29 am
    Goodell continually frames and cheats the Pats.
    Federal judges are being paid off to cheat the Pats.
    Refs threw the SBowl on Goodell’s orders.
    Local radio hosts are mouthpieces for Goodell.
    TCurran is under orders from NBC executives as to what to say.

    That’s called going off the deep end

    Signed, a 55 yr old millenial and season ticket holder for almost 30 yrs

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    If you are 55, that’s pretty embarrassing or you’ve been living under a rock for the last decade plus.

    Everything you just listed is clearly what has been happening, factually so. Goodell has been caught lying in courts and then told the NFL customer that Article 46 gives hiim the right to lie, cheat and defame, Did you miss the Deflategate appeal? I am sorry you haven’t been paying attention and don’t know how the world work$ yet at age 55.

    How can you be a Pats fan and not understand what Goodell has been doing for over a decade now? Do you have comprehension issues?

    Season tickets in my family since ’78 and names engraved on the seats, Teddy, and I can tell you right now, you’d be laughed out of our section.

    Is your son the toolbag who had his photo taken with Goodell last preseason? Give up your season tickets now, please. We don’t need creepy bandwagon types at Gillette.

  25. pastabelly says:
    June 26, 2018 at 11:25 am
    tylawspick6 says:
    June 26, 2018 at 10:47 am

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    This is what I mean..What Florio says is technically correct, but as long as Goodell bastardizes Article 46, it makes a mockery of what the CBA has ALWAYS represented to both sides.

    This is the problem. Goodell framed Brady and then took the league of cheating to another level by testifying in court Article 46 trumps all.
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    This is not governed by Article 46. Brady was. That’s Florio’s point, which is 100% correct. This is why PED suspensions get reduced and some (Richard Sherman) get removed.

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    Again, you’re wrong. Goodell specifically told us it doesn’t matter what the CBA says or what the Constitution says.

    Did you miss the Deflategate appeal and how Brady got suspended? I didn’t. That really happened.

    Note how many firsts there are under Goodell and how it all ties to the Pats. No commissioner in sports history as ever taken it upon himself to constantly move the goal posts to manipulate the desired outcome of said league based on financial benchmarks.

    It’s never happened in world history.

    Sure, leaghues change rules to drive ratings, etc, but never has one team in a league been specifically targeted like this. It’s just a fact.

    Dynasties were lauded and celebrated. It didn’t matter if it was the NBA, NHL or MLB.

    As you can see, Goodell and the cheating owner$ have a hard on for international expansion, which HAS to include parity. Without parity, they can’t expand because no one will believe it can get a footing competing with soccer. The European Soccer Leagues are VERY popular.

  26. Tylawspick6 – You’re absolutely correct when it comes to Deflategate. If the people here took the time to actually read the report I think they would have a different opinion of both Brady and Goodell. Unfortunately the people out there either don’t have the time to read it or just don’t want to know what’s really in it. Which really is too bad cause the report itself is so poorly constructed that it’s obvious to anyone that it was really done with an outcome already in mind. I believe the NFL knew the average fan wouldn’t care enough to go through so they decided to releases certain parts of it that they knew people would latch onto. So again I agree with you completely when it comes to Deflategate. However I don’t believe that Goodell can always influence every single NFL related subject such as this appeal process for Edelman. I understand your paranoia to a certain degree but at some point you have to just let things unfold and go from there. I know it can be frustrating

  27. This is not governed by Article 46. Brady was. That’s Florio’s point, which is 100% correct. This is why PED suspensions get reduced and some (Richard Sherman) get removed.

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    Also. Sherman’s case came BEFORE August of 2016, if I am not mistaken. This was before Goodell pulled out his cheating ace in the hole (Article 46) and told the NFL customer that it’s the REAL REASON it allows him to cheat and manipulate the league as he sees fit.

    I am not convinced people understand what that appeal signifies. It means he can do whatever he wants, save for murder or rape. That’s what it means. Whatever the owners want, the owners can demand.

    This is why ratings are dropping, too. People are sick of it. It’s not the small amount of people who care about kneeling that isn’t even shown on tv screens before games enough to get angry anyway. It’s not about anything else, but the Pats domination and how Goodell and the owners can try to stop that from happening, but it’s still cheating from 345 Park Ave.

    If NE goes to its 8th straight Conf title game this year, not only is it a record, it’s a stunning blow to the NFL’s wishes to see parity come back.

    How can you sell a league of balance, health and parity when one team is making a mockery of the concept?

  28. eddievortex says:
    June 26, 2018 at 10:15 am

    If the Colts keep hanging up those banners they won’t have any room left up
    in the rafters for ANY LEGITIMATE title they win…!
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    No worries on that account

  29. Name calling like a 12 yr old. Very impressive. Article 46 absolutely gives the power of final say to Goodell. Nothing to do with cheating. He thought Brady was guilty, as many people do, and punished him as he saw fit. It may have been a raw deal, but that’s just how it is.

    Edelman’s appeal has NOTHING to do with Article 46, as another poster said earlier. You are misinformed.

    I’ve been laughed out of section full of beer soaked morons before. Doesn’t faze me.

  30. tylawspick6 says:
    June 26, 2018 at 11:46 am

    Again, you’re wrong. Goodell specifically told us it doesn’t matter what the CBA says or what the Constitution says.
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    Reason 6,387 why you get run off all the Pats boards, that nasty habit of telling others they are wrong when you wouldn’t know a fact if it bit you.

  31. boyso3 says:
    June 26, 2018 at 11:54 am
    Tylawspick6 – You’re absolutely correct when it comes to Deflategate. If the people here took the time to actually read the report I think they would have a different opinion of both Brady and Goodell. Unfortunately the people out there either don’t have the time to read it or just don’t want to know what’s really in it. Which really is too bad cause the report itself is so poorly constructed that it’s obvious to anyone that it was really done with an outcome already in mind. I believe the NFL knew the average fan wouldn’t care enough to go through so they decided to releases certain parts of it that they knew people would latch onto. So again I agree with you completely when it comes to Deflategate. However I don’t believe that Goodell can always influence every single NFL related subject such as this appeal process for Edelman. I understand your paranoia to a certain degree but at some point you have to just let things unfold and go from there. I know it can be frustrating

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    I don’t think a Pats fan not trusting the cheating liar Goodell is a paranoia. I am not sure that’s the right word.

    KNowledge of a cheat as commissioner just means we know what they’re doing and why. I know you get it, as do others. These are not coincidences or accidents.

    I am fully expecting the suspension to hold and for the haters to applaud more cheating and the media to not ask the right questions again, because it doesn’t behoove them to, financially.

  32. tedmurph says:
    June 26, 2018 at 12:01 pm
    Name calling like a 12 yr old. Very impressive. Article 46 absolutely gives the power of final say to Goodell. Nothing to do with cheating. He thought Brady was guilty, as many people do, and punished him as he saw fit. It may have been a raw deal, but that’s just how it is.

    Edelman’s appeal has NOTHING to do with Article 46, as another poster said earlier. You are misinformed.

    I’ve been laughed out of section full of beer soaked morons before. Doesn’t faze me.

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    Nothing to do with cheating? I bet you have Millennial kids, don’t you? Did you hand out 5th place trophies as coach of the soccer team? I bet you did! lmao

    Hint: Neither Rozelle nor Tagliabue ever referenced or HAD to reference “Article 46” as a way to jsutify managing the NFL.

    You know why? Because they aren’t cheaters. That’s why. One reason why Tagliabue was replaced after only 15 years of great work, was because he was not willing to compromise his integrity to do what Goodell is willing to do.

    You’re so in the dark about of all of this and feel very insecure about it, Teddy, but it will be ok.

    The Jets owner volunteers to hire a new commissioner, on the heels of BB being acquired via trade from the Jets, then drafting Brady and then winning 3 SBs in 4 years in the cap era, and then Goodell is hired soon thereafter.

    Gee, it’s all just so confusing. lmao

    I bet you think Brady suggesting Harbaugh “check the rule book”, one week before Framegate II was a coincidence, too, didn’t you?

  33. commentawaitingdeletion says:
    June 26, 2018 at 12:03 pm
    tylawspick6 says:
    June 26, 2018 at 11:46 am

    Again, you’re wrong. Goodell specifically told us it doesn’t matter what the CBA says or what the Constitution says.
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    Reason 6,387 why you get run off all the Pats boards, that nasty habit of telling others they are wrong when you wouldn’t know a fact if it bit you.

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    So, you think Goodell testifying on the back of Article 46, after being caught framing Brady, was an illusion?

    LOL!

    Seek clinical assistance. Immediately.

    Show me another sports league where a coach or player is framed and then caught in a federal court.

    Show me another commissioner that has lied in federal court or bastardized the longstanding bylaws to achieve a desired result:

    How’s that for a fact? If you can’t do it, you lose. You can’t do it, because it’s never existed.

    Why do you think Goodell lied about Ray Rice twice and then allowed Zeke Elliott to be framed last year?

  34. Hint: Rozelle or Tagliabue never referenced Article 46 because it wasn’t in the CBA then, Mr Facts.

    Kraft had as much to do with hiring Goodell as anyone, Tinfoil.

  35. tedmurph says:
    June 26, 2018 at 12:20 pm
    Hint: Rozelle or Tagliabue never referenced Article 46 because it wasn’t in the CBA then, Mr Facts.

    Kraft had as much to do with hiring Goodell as anyone, Tinfoil.

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    LOL!

    Listen to yourself: Article 46 has been in the CBA since 1968/1969 and its inception of the AFL/NFL merger:

    “Essentially, Article 46 creates “a powerful commissioner with arbitrary power over player behavior [and] is entirely in the interest of the league and its franchise owners, and against the interest of players who may fall under his thumb.”[69] Although this Article has been around since the initial CBA in 1968, no other Commissioner has relished such authority like Commissioner Goodell.[70] And because Article 46 has not been utilized by previous commissioners like it has by Commissioner Goodell, Article 46 was not limited in the 2011 CBA negotiations. Article 46, while minute in length compared to the rest of the CBA, grants the Commissioner overarching and broad authority to punish players for actions they did not know were punishable and to act as sole arbitrator over appeals to his decisions. ”

    SOURCE: Greenberg Law Office

    I know more about the sport and the league than you could ever hope to dream of knowing, big boy.

    That much is clear.

  36. commentawaitingdeletion says:
    June 26, 2018 at 12:03 pm
    tylawspick6 says:
    June 26, 2018 at 11:46 am

    Again, you’re wrong. Goodell specifically told us it doesn’t matter what the CBA says or what the Constitution says.
    _______________________________________________

    Reason 6,387 why you get run off all the Pats boards, that nasty habit of telling others they are wrong when you wouldn’t know a fact if it bit you.
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    cue laughter

  37. cue laughter

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    I am still laughing at his boyfriend (TedMUrph) trying to tell the board here, that Article 46 is new to the NFL’s CBA.

    LOL!

    I am literally crying over here. Nothing like sticking your nose in, claiming someone else has no facts, and then be utterly embarrassed by the facts themselves.

  38. Yup, you finally got one right Tinfoilpk6. Even monkeys fall outta trees. Give yourself a big ‘attaboy’ and get yourself a cookie.

  39. 50 year Dolphin fan here & I’ve even get a feeling that Goodell and his ilk are out
    to get New England!
    I just wonder if this isn’t a ploy by Roger to get under Belichicks skin to force
    him to retire?

  40. williamshatnerstoupee says:
    June 26, 2018 at 2:16 pm
    The whining and blubbering never stops with these people. Poor victims.

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    Well, it starts somewhere first, so look in the mirror, cheater.

  41. @tylawspick6
    “Also, keep in mind that the arbitrator for appeals of PED positive tests is now neutral; that’s one of the concessions the NFLPA received when agreeing to HGH testing. So the NFL won’t be reviewing the NFL’s decision. Which gives Edelman something better than a snowball’s chance in Roger Goodell’s coffee for prevailing”

  42. @tylawspick6

    Just stop already youre changing the narrative. Edleman got popped tested positive for clearly something. Enough already youre embarrassing yourself. Im sure you were thinking the same when Sherman got popped right?

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  44. GoodellMustGo says:
    June 26, 2018 at 9:55 am
    Mishandled test (if true)? Not guilty. Slam dunk.

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    In a court of law yes. In an NFL proceeding not so much. I’m not saying that’s right so please spare that argument. I’m only saying that is how it is.

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