Darius Slay, Xavier Rhodes, Aqib Talib join Richard Sherman for workouts

AP

Aqib Talib turned down a chance to join the 49ers in a trade this offseason, but he’s working out with a couple of the team’s cornerbacks this week.

Richard Sherman posted a video from a workout session that included fellow Niner Ahkello Witherspoon, Talib, Lions cornerback Darius Slay and Vikings corner Xavier Rhodes on Tuesday. The group is working out with trainer Rischad Whitfield and Matt Barrows of the Sacramento Bee reports that Cardinals corner Patrick Peterson is expected to join the group later this week.

The collection of cornerbacks caught the eye of Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, who is scheduled to face Rhodes and Slay this season. He posted a comment to Sherman’s post that tagged Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson and Drew Brees.

“Ah s***, I may have to get the QB family together after watching this! Can’t let you get the edge on us,” Brady wrote.

Brady also tagged Cam Newton in a later comment and Sherman replied by saying they’ve talked about adding some wide receivers to the group in the future. Throw in those quarterbacks and you’d have a pickup game for the ages.

37 responses to “Darius Slay, Xavier Rhodes, Aqib Talib join Richard Sherman for workouts

  1. So Russell is part of the big 4 in Tom’s eyes…RW fans love that I am sure.

    Poor Cam got a secondary tag after someone complained. Haha

  2. Slay is awesome if you’re the Lions who are the worst team in the NFC for past six decades. That defense has been declining since the departure of Suh and isn’t going to change with Patricia who relied on Tom Brady and Bill Belichick to shield his risky defensive schemes.

  3. I don’t know how Darius Slay can be considered overrated when he’s rarely mentioned nationally when the topic of cornerbacks comes up.

    Dude is solid, can force a game changing fumble (ask Philly Fan) or snag a game ending interception (ask Viking Fan) and is always around the ball.

    Great? Maybe not, but I like him just fine TYVM.

  4. Xavier Rhodes is clearly currently the best CB up there. We play Slay twice a year, he’s alright I guess, but he’s not on the same level as Rhodes, Talib and Sherman…..No way.

  5. Pass Rush summit meet Pass Coverage summit. All these position groups giving away their secrets would make for great, real reality TV. Would love to hear them talking game candidly with no stigma of what/how they say it.

  6. Slay is a good DB, and even if he isn’t as good as those other guys, why fault him for working out with some of the best DBs in the NFL? Seems like a smart move to me.

  7. I can not even imagine the hilarity that will ensue, watching Seahawk fans lose their minds if Sherman is anything close to 100% and haunts them the next 3-4 years.

  8. Players say Slay is the 49th best player in the league…THE PLAYERS SAID IT…not some fans posting on here, watching from their sofa. What more do you want?

  9. Imagine a secondary that was made of up Elite All-Pro CB’s Patrick Peterson & Xavier Rhodes on the outside with Darius Slay in the slot. Or better yet Patrick Peterson, Rhodes and Slay at CB with Harrison Smith and Budda Baker at safety. Talk about lethal, teams wouldnt be able to throw on them. Just once in my life i’d like to see a team with All-Pro’s across the board in the secondary with a good pass rush up front.

  10. I can not even imagine the hilarity that will ensue, watching Seahawk fans lose their minds if Sherman is anything close to 100% and haunts them the next 3-4 years.

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    More likely Sherman’s mouth will get him in trouble and maybe rip apart the locker room. The 49ers are not the Seahawks ..even at this stage.

    Imagine Richard Sherman’s mouth with a losing record… we haven’t seen that yet.

  11. vikingf0rlife says:
    June 27, 2018 at 12:40 pm
    Xavier Rhodes is clearly currently the best CB up there. We play Slay twice a year, he’s alright I guess, but he’s not on the same level as Rhodes, Talib and Sherman…..No way.

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    Rhodes definitely isnt the best CB on this list. I am not saying he is a bad CB by any means, he is one of the best and I personally rank him 2nd on my top 3 list of Peterson, Rhodes, Ramsey. I’d take Patrick Peterson over Rhodes seven days a week, QB’s dont even throw Peterson’s way anymore which is the ultimate respect for a CB throwing his way once every 10.0 coverage snaps ranking 3rd w/ Peterson again allowing the 2nd fewest receptions of all CB, allowing just ONE reception every 21.2 coverage snaps as the ranking as 2nd (ranked 1st among starting CB’s) least targeted CB in the NFL & ranked 3rd in yards allowed per route in coverage & ranked first in yards allowed per route coverage (0.64YDs) over expectation (1.72yds) & ranked 3rd in yards allowed per coverage snaps allowing 0.66yds per snap. Peterson is the only defensive player in NFL History to make 7 Pro Bowls before his 28th Birthday and is a 4X All-Pro.
    Peterson shadowed opposing #1WR’s in 11 games last season, most of any CB in the NFL the other 5 teams didnt have a true #1 who demanded Peterson shadow them. Over the last 3 seasons Peterson ranks first in yards allowed per route in coverage, first in fantasy points allowed per route in coverage, and 11th in opposing passer rating. This becomes all the more impressive when we realize just how frequently he’s asked to shadow, and so frequently against the best wide receivers in the league. Last season, Peterson held all of Alshon Jeffery, Pierre Garcon, T.Y. Hilton, Sammy Watkins (twice), Marvin Jones, Marqise Lee, Mike Evans, and Dez Bryant under 30 total yards in shadow games, with the final four totaling a combined zero yards on 85 total routes. Only DeAndre Hopkins (65 yards) and Marquise Goodwin (55 yards on one reception) topped 30 yards against his coverage in shadow games. As evidenced by the chart, not only did he rank best, but best by a landslide.

    At still just 27yrs old Peterson has several years of Elite caliber play left in him and will for sure be a HOF Cornerback. Peterson’s biggest issue at CB is getting bored, no one throws at him anymore and it dramatically affects his chances/opportunities to make plays on the ball. That is definitely going to chance this season as Peterson is going to play off the ball far more, giving him chances to read plays out and jump routes though he will also play man and shadow WR’s, especially elite #1 WR’s like the Julio Jones n Antonio Brown’s of the world. AZ is just trying to create more chances for him to make plays, and with him playing off the ball the CB wont automatically know where he will be. Head-Coach Steve Wilks is known as one of the best DB coach’s in the league as well, Wilks is who Josh Norman developed and was playing the best ball of his career under. Peterson is getting ready to have a season this year especially w/ the top 5-10 caliber pass rush Arizona has up front that will be much better this year w/ DE Markus Golden (10+ sack guy) back healthy across from All-Pro DE Chandler Jones.

  12. Cam Newton doesn’t belong in that conversation except:

    “Cam Newton is no where near the NFL’s best QBs — Brady, Brees, Rodgers & Wilson.”

    Newton is one of those ESPN highlight reel QBs who get on there for the occasional big plays while routinely struggling in all other aspects of the game. I mean, really, the guy is a journeyman level QB with a huge hype machine behind him.

    At this point Alex Smith has a better lifetime QB rating than Newton. And Smith was horrible beyond belief his first few years in that complete coaching Charlie Foxtrot that went on pre-Harbaugh.

  13. hawkkiller says:
    June 27, 2018 at 11:44 pm

    Imagine a secondary that was made of up Elite All-Pro CB’s Patrick Peterson & Xavier Rhodes on the outside with Darius Slay in the slot. Or better yet Patrick Peterson, Rhodes and Slay at CB with Harrison Smith and Budda Baker at safety. Talk about lethal, teams wouldnt be able to throw on them. Just once in my life i’d like to see a team with All-Pro’s across the board in the secondary with a good pass rush up front.
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    I don’t think that will ever happen but watch this year’s Vikings and that may be as close as you can get. Rhodes and Smith are already All-Pros, Waynes improves every year and is already pretty good, and Sendejo is very solid. That pass rush is going to be really good too.

  14. Why all the hate on Slay? Dude is underrated if anything. Lead the league in picks and pass breakups while rarely being mentioned as tops in the league.

    Meanwhile, guys like Xavier Rhodes get tore up by Marvin Jones and get ranked the #44 CB by PFF. Rhodes and Peterson are the most overrated CBs in the league.

  15. Kevin G says:
    June 28, 2018 at 4:36 pm
    Why all the hate on Slay? Dude is underrated if anything. Lead the league in picks and pass breakups while rarely being mentioned as tops in the league.

    Meanwhile, guys like Xavier Rhodes get tore up by Marvin Jones and get ranked the #44 CB by PFF. Rhodes and Peterson are the most overrated CBs in the league.
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    You’re just mad that Xavier Rhodes expedited Megatrons retirement.

  16. Lead the league in picks and pass breakups while rarely being mentioned as tops in the league.

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    Maybe this will help you understand better and please stop using different names, we all know you’re the same desperate Lions fan trying to conceal your shame and embarrassment of being consistent proven wrong on here.

    “Darius Slay led the league in interceptions last season with eight (tied with Kevin Byard), and had 13 pass breakups, but he also surrendered three touchdowns and over 700 yards to receivers over the course of the season.”

    Rhodes, Talib and Sherman are in a different class all together. Slay is trying to get there, but it’s very tough to do on an organization that hasn’t won anything but one playoff game in over six decades and wastes talent.

  17. Not only All Pro, but Elite too, Hawkkiller? Peterson is a joke. Cam made him look stupid when the spotlight was squarely on him. Then fumbled a punt as well. PP is a classic choker…always playing small when his team needs him most.

  18. Lots of homerism going on here, but I guess you have to expect that. It isn’t really possible to select a definitive “best” CB in the league. Each of the “best” players has both pros and cons to their game. I don’t place Darius Slay as the best CB in the NFL, but he is pretty darn good. The NFL players ranked him as the fourth best CB in the NFL on their top 100 list. They would know a lot more about who is good than the couch potato pseudo-scouts that claim to know so much in the comment sections of every article like this.

  19. You Viking homers are something else. PFF ranking of 44….

    NOT SO FAST
    Xavier Rhodes
    The most obvious name that people will expect to see in this debate that won’t feature for PFF beyond explaining why he isn’t in the discussion is Minnesota’s Xavier Rhodes. There is no doubt that Rhodes is a good corner, and he has begun to track No. 1 receivers now, but he is just beaten too often for a player who doesn’t offset that with as many big plays in coverage as some others.

    Rhodes surrendered 553 yards in coverage last season, three touchdowns, and had significant yardage hidden in the form of penalties, with his nine penalties ranking inside the top 10 among corners, eight more than somebody like Hayward.

    Let me know when Slay gets beat like Marvin Jones beat Rhodes.

    DARIUS SLAY, DETROIT LIONS (December 15)
    PASSER RATING WHEN TARGETED: 63.6
    ‘Big play Slay’ rounds out the top 10 with five interceptions and eight pass defenses. Quarterbacks have targeted the Slay 87 times in 2017, tied for the third-most in the NFL. No other cornerback on this list ranks in the top 10 of targets. Even more impressive with the high volume of targets, Slay ranks 12th in coverage grade among corners (87.0).

  20. vikingf0rlife says:
    June 28, 2018 at 6:28 pm

    Lead the league in picks and pass breakups while rarely being mentioned as tops in the league.

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    Maybe this will help you understand better and please stop using different names, we all know you’re the same desperate Lions fan trying to conceal your shame and embarrassment of being consistent proven wrong on here.

    “Darius Slay led the league in interceptions last season with eight (tied with Kevin Byard), and had 13 pass breakups, but he also surrendered three touchdowns and over 700 yards to receivers over the course of the season.”

    Rhodes, Talib and Sherman are in a different class all together. Slay is trying to get there, but it’s very tough to do on an organization that hasn’t won anything but one playoff game in over six decades and wastes talent.

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    Slay led the league in both INTs and PDs – he had 34 pass break ups. Doesn’t make him the best but definitely puts him in the conversation.

    Check your Lion Hate – sounds like you are scared.

  21. Darius had one stand out season (last year) other than that he had on two or zero INT’s every other season in his five years with my Lions. He’s serviceable CB on any team, but he does give up lots and lots of yards. Hopefully he has another great season because the Lions are clearly the best team in the NFC North this year!

    ROAR!!!!!!!

  22. theyear0fthecat1 says:
    June 29, 2018 at 10:37 am
    Darius had one stand out season (last year) other than that he had on two or zero INT’s every other season in his five years with my Lions. He’s serviceable CB on any team, but he does give up lots and lots of yards. Hopefully he has another great season because the Lions are clearly the best team in the NFC North this year!

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    Lions “the best team in the NFC North this year”? LOL! Meow

  23. the “before you hate” and “2nd string qb shreds” is the same guy. he goes on every lions post and says something negative. must be an exciting life checking the detroit lion comment section every 30 minutes and deciding which user name you’re going to post from

  24. Cam Newton is a modern day Steve Grogan. Occasionally does something great but is not otherwise consistently solid.

    Hey, Grogan is my favorite QB for plays like when he ducked beneath a leaping Lawrence Taylor.

  25. steelersarebeliebers says:
    July 1, 2018 at 6:56 pm

    the “before you hate” and “2nd string qb shreds” is the same guy. he goes on every lions post and says something negative. must be an exciting life checking the detroit lion comment section every 30 minutes and deciding which user name you’re going to post from

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    Takes one to know one, Ryan-Hyzers-etc-etc-etc….you change your name on here more than anyone else and then call out people for what you do. Really exciting life…

  26. Slay gets little pass rush and still dominates, Rhodes gets tons of pass rush and is good. I’ll take Slay any day over Rhodes.

  27. Too much negative talk about Slay, he is a good CB. But anyone here suggesting Rhodes isn’t a top CB in the NFL doesn’t know football and is just as foolish.

  28. Ryan says:
    July 3, 2018 at 5:06 pm

    Slay gets little pass rush and still dominates, Rhodes gets tons of pass rush and is good. I’ll take Slay any day over Rhodes.

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    Slay had one good season and it wasn’t even that impressive, how many times did you alter your profile name today Hyzers?

    Dude has one decent season and you come to his defense because you’re so incredibly desperate! You have been on here claiming how good the Lions are for the past 5-6 years and they choke every year. One ten win season and three playoff failures because Stafford turns the ball over too much. When you stop changing your name every two seconds to pretend to be other people and be realistic about your terrible team, I’ll stop coming around kid.

  29. Kevin G says:
    June 28, 2018 at 4:36 pm
    Why all the hate on Slay? Dude is underrated if anything. Lead the league in picks and pass breakups while rarely being mentioned as tops in the league.

    Meanwhile, guys like Xavier Rhodes get tore up by Marvin Jones and get ranked the #44 CB by PFF. Rhodes and Peterson are the most overrated CBs in the league.

    You do realize that’s 44 among all players in the NFL, not the 44th best corner right?

  30. I’m genuinely shocked by all the Xavier Rhodes hate. Did no one look at his stats against the elite receivers he followed all over the field last year. The Vikings had a very tough scheddule when it comes to not just how good the team was, but they faced a crazy amount of the elite receivers the league has to offer. Rhodes absolutely shut them down. This guy just totally dominated guys like Julio Jones, Michael Thomas, a.j. green, and several others. And for the guy above that just copy and pasted PFFs analysis of Rhodes clearly doesn’t know the history of his career and the scheme the Vikings had been running. Yes, this was the first year Rhodes followed top receivers across the field. But that’s not a reflection of his talent. This is the scheme Zimmer uses up until last year. And many elite corners play specifically just their side of the field. This is a defensive scheme for secondaries, and has its uses and reasons for being used, and none of those reasons are because the number one corner isn’t good enough to follow all over the field. They just don’t run the defense that way. Richard Sherman, during his elite years during the legion of boom, also played into the scheme by only playing the left side of the field. You don’t grade corners on whether or not they cover a single receiver the entire game. If you really don’t know that Rhodes is the top corner, if not 2nd, in the league right now, you haven’t actually watched him play.

    As for all the slay hate, I’m not sure why anyone is killing this guy right now. Yes, he’s probably th e worst qb out of this group, but this group is stacked with some insane talent and skill. Slay may not be among those guys, but that’s totally ok, he’s a very solid and talented cornerback. He’s a victim of a subpar team I would say if anything. My only problem about the stats you guys are all quoting is that stating that he was great in ints and pass breakups isn’t really a measure of how good of a corner he or any other corner is. Those stats, kind of like sacks, are stats for fans more than they are a tool for measuring the talent of a player. The absolute best corners really wouldn’t have many ints because a decent qb is smart enough to recognize where the elite cover corner is on the field and decide that maybe that route isn’t going to be the one that’s open a higher percentage of the time. The good ones don’t really get thrown at much, therefore they don’t really have many ints or pass breakups cause they aren’t really getting chances to get them. Those are cool stats and clearly good things and they do reflect talent, I’m not saying they’re not. But when measuring the talent of a corner or ranking them among eachother, those simply are not stats real football people use. Those are huge big flashy plays that are very impactful in that immediate moment. But I promise you, ask any coach on that side of the ball and they will tell you they would rather have a shut down corner quietly take a player completely out of the game rather than have a guy getting a lot of picks. Like I say, I think slay is a very good corner, but his ints and pass breakups are just not really anything anyone should be using in this conversation. I hate the lions, but I can recognize talent and skill, and I’m not sure why we all have to hate on some of these guys because our teams are rivals. It seems to me that if that’s your focus in this debate, it shows a lack of football intelligence to not be able to recognize a guy like slay being a good player just because you don’t like the lions. He’s still good.

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