DeAndre Hopkins: Trump too “closed-minded” to listen to players

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At least one player thinks President Donald Trump’s offer to listen to NFL players for advice on pardons wasn’t a sincere one.

Texans wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins told TMZ that he didn’t buy it.

“I think Trump is more closed-minded and he thinks the reason that we’re kneeling is because of the flag,” Hopkins said, via the Houston Chronicle. “When that’s like not at all the reason we’re kneeling.”

Hopkins was among the Texans players who took a knee during the anthem before the Oct. 29 game, after owner Bob McNair’s “inmates running the prison” line from a meeting with other NFL owners. Hopkins said he still expects some players to take a knee next year.

“I kneeled last year and one of my best friends is a Purple Heart veteran and my uncle is a Purple Heart veteran and they understand that it’s not about the flag,” Hopkins said. “But, when a general person like that makes it look like, ‘All right, they’re doing this because of the flag.’ Then of course his followers are going to think the same. But, that’s not the case at all, you know?”

Of course, the reality is that Trump will continue to use the NFL as a punching bag, after NFL owners tried to appease him with a new anthem policy. Players who are on the field are now required to stand, though they have the option to remain in the locker room.

88 responses to “DeAndre Hopkins: Trump too “closed-minded” to listen to players

  1. The players have missed opportunity after opportunity to work with the President but have chosen to act like spoiled children instead. Meeting with the President at the White House and working with the President to obtain prison release for individuals that they feeling are being incarcerated unfairly could have been a beginning for greater understanding of the issues on both sides. The President has reached out but the players choose to take an all or nothing approach. The President has been consistent in his view that keeling during the anthem disrespects the flag and the country and that is what he has a problem with.

  2. Ok dummy, don’t do your silly protest during the anthem and, boom, no more anthem or flag issue.

    You just want to be a follower and not really work toward some “resolution” because you don’t even know what you’re protesting.

  3. Then kneel. Kneel all you want. Just dont do it during the anthem. You’re now disrespecting an entire nation when you do that. Want to be heard? Use your avenue, but appreciate your freedom and keep your knees off the ground.

  4. He’s not the only closed minded person in this little drama. Have any of the kneelers expressed a willingness to compromise their position? They are absolutely closed minded to any narrative that does not sync up with theirs. This grew from the same crowd that rips a microphone away from a candidate they don’t support (Sanders). The Big Lie Movement (yes, hands up don’t shoot was a lie) certainly has these folks wrapped around their finger. I suppose it’s easier than logical independent thought.

  5. How come no one asks OBAMA to fix problem. Think

    people in Chicago with over 750 murders last year,

    wouldn’t want the players to help. WHERE ARE YOU NFL

    PLAYERS

  6. The reality is that kneeling was not about the flag and people flying the confederate flag is not about people wanting slavery. You can’t have it both ways people.

  7. Democracy is being destroyed in this country by a president that is dividing the nation at every turn based on inflamtory, self-serving half-truths and outright lies. If you don’t think we’re on a crash course for a civil war just note the balance of thumbs up vs thumbs down that this comment gets.

  8. This issue really is never going to go away is it? The reason the NFL’s viewership is declining is because people turn to sports to get a break from politics. Might as well just call it CNNFL.

  9. Texans wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins told TMZ that he didn’t buy it.

    “I think Trump is more closed-minded and he thinks the reason that we’re kneeling is because of the flag,” Hopkins said, via the Houston Chronicle. “When that’s like not at all the reason we’re kneeling.”

    Oh really?? The original explanation of this whole method of protesting is the following statement by Kaepernick:

    “I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color.”

    So, it was Kap’s protesting of the US flag. The players can try to spin it any way they can. Find another way to do your protesting, and on your own time.

  10. Thank god we got DeAndre Hopkins input on all this… I wasnt sure how I felt about Trump until we got Hopkins expert insight.

  11. With all due respect DeAndre, even trump knows its not about anything to do with the rubberstamp laundry list of “patriotspeak”

    He’s pandering to a select group of people, at a selected time, to achieve a specific goal.

    And like sheep……..they hear his Siren call.

    #miserablehumanbeings

  12. The very definition of closed-mind is Hopkins argument. How can you know unless you try?

  13. Meanwhile, players are too close-minded to listen to fans.

    Hey, DeAndre, it isn’t about the flag. It’s about respect, honor, and gratitude.

  14. America thinks the kneelers and SJWs are too small minded to make objective, rational, logical decisions.

  15. They protested and shut down traffic, were admonished for that too.

    The people who are anti-protest just don’t want to see it. They hide behind the flag as their excuse but no matter the when and where, these people say it’s not okay.

  16. So did you talk to the POTUS? Did you give him the name of anyone SPECIFICALLY to pardon?

    No…a few players got together and just said “blanket pardons”.

    Why should he listen to you? Are you a politician? A congressman? A senator, judge, anything? No…youre part of a group of people that retire after 10 years and blame the game of football for head trauma and try to get money for CTE.

    He gave you an opportunity to voice your opinion…but I sure didn’t see your name attached to that address.

  17. America thinks the kneelers and SJWs are too small minded to make objective, rational, logical decisions.
    ————————————————
    You don’t speak for all Americans. Your opinion definitely does not speak for me, of which I am both an American and a veteran.

    The irony of all of this is that the first couple of comments on this thread prove Hopkins point. LOL He tells us that the flag was not the reason he kneeled, and “SOME” of the American people are still so close minded to think it is about the flag. So, why should he be trying to have a conversation with anyone who has already proved they have no intention to listen to. Seems like common sense to me.

  18. JustBlameTrumpOrRussia says:
    June 29, 2018 at 7:41 am
    America thinks the kneelers and SJWs are too small minded to make objective, rational, logical decisions.
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    If any of the players stay in the locker room during the National Anthem, I’m sure it will be due to bone spurs, so why should the SJWs hold that against them?

  19. I’m pretty sure most people know it’s not about the flag. However, there are more appropriate ways to protest than to kneel during the anthem.

  20. All this fiasco could have been avoided if Kaep could have just beat out some guy named Blaine Gabbert

  21. working with the President to obtain prison release for individuals that they feeling are being incarcerated unfairly could have been a beginning for greater understanding of the issues on both sides.
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    Incarceration rates are not what the protest were ever about.

    The issue is deadly police aggression has been and still is vastly on the rise. But they are not held accountable like the rest of society. Many victims of police aggression are innocent bystanders that the police mistook for a suspect, based mostly off of the victims appearance. Most of them turn out to be poor so our society doesn’t care. To serve and protect has taken a back seat to obey and comply. That’s an issue that everyone that values freedom should be concerned with.
    As a son of a retired peace officer, I’d love nothing more to see police get back to being universally respected. But that’s not going to happen until we admit there is a problem with police aggression. IMO it’s all about their training. Too much militarization of our police. This isn’t Baghdad. This is the United States of America. They are not a counter terrorism unit. They are here to protect and serve the citizens from other citizens.

    Unfortunately there will always be some civilian vs civilian crime. Regardless of ones politics, police vs civilian crime should never have gone as far as it’s gotten in a free society.

  22. White America seems to think by saying “I understand” that they’re admitting they’re racist or admitting that America is completely and utterly racist.

    Ofcourse there’s a small percentage of racist scumbags out there, ofcourse. But until the ones that are not racist speak up more, nothing will change. That’s all these guys want man….is for you to Try, at a minimum, to understand…that’s it. That’s all.

  23. Regardless of the intent, some people find the kneeling to be disrespectful. They might be wrong, so it’s up to the players to either stand as a show of unity, or continue to kneel and alienate those people.

  24. Players need to be closed-minded when it comes to fans opinions because the majority of them are crap. When you’re black in America, the experience is totally different and if you can’t acknowledge that because you haven’t lived it or wouldn’t want to understand it then your opinion doesn’t qualify in this argument. The point of kneeling is to draw attention to a much larger issue and protest is as patriotic as it gets.

  25. Jermaine McNeil says:

    June 29, 2018 at 8:02 am

    America thinks the kneelers and SJWs are too small minded to make objective, rational, logical decisions.
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    You don’t speak for all Americans. Your opinion definitely does not speak for me, of which I am both an American and a veteran.

    The irony of all of this is that the first couple of comments on this thread prove Hopkins point. LOL He tells us that the flag was not the reason he kneeled, and “SOME” of the American people are still so close minded to think it is about the flag. So, why should he be trying to have a conversation with anyone who has already proved they have no intention to listen to. Seems like common sense to me.
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    Also a veteran, I don’t think for a moment they are kneeling with the intention of disrespect. HOWEVER, that is how many people view it, myself included. The players are losing sight of the original purpose by continuing to kneel during the anthem. People want to watch football, not politics.

  26. If the fans are turning off the TV and not showing up for games, IS THAT GOOD FOR BUSINESS???? These guys have peanuts for brains…

  27. I’m afraid Mr. Hopkins doesn’t get it. Everyone knows they’re not kneeling because of the flag. It’s all about equal treatment, in a nutshell. What Hopkins doesn’t get is that it’s still disrespectful to the flag and Americans who fought and died for it, and their efforts would be more successful if they focused it in a positive manner that everyone can get behind. I think it’s great that Trump tried to open a dialogue with the players; it a great opening gesture and move. If the players seize that opportunity and then expand on it, they may be able to obtain many things. But to shut it down because basically you don’t like Trump is just a recipe to continue more of the same.

  28. It started by sitting. A special forces veteran negotiated sitting into kneeling as it is more respectful.

    At least ONE side of the protest is willing to listen to others.

  29. I love Hopkins but his comment is clueless. Turning the anthem into a political ploy doesn’t mean Trump is close minded to the players, it means he’s a politician. Trump is and has been open minded to players, actors/actresses, anyone who takes he time to reach out. Problem is that the players are not the least bit unified. They are all over the place.

  30. fsstnotch says:
    June 29, 2018 at 8:38 am
    Also a veteran, I don’t think for a moment they are kneeling with the intention of disrespect. HOWEVER, that is how many people view it, myself included.
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    And WHY is it you don’t think that? Do you know what Kaepernick said about it – why he started kneeling? Do you know what he has said about the country at other times?

    To know those things and to still believe it’s not about disrespect – worse, really – is to be deliberately self-delusional about this situation.

    But you make a great point in your second sentence.

    Even if it WASN’T about disrespect, the entire nation at this point has CLEARLY told these players that we find it disrespectful, to say the least. So if it’s not about disrespect, WHY continue to protest in a way that SO MANY people find disrespectful – and even personally insulting – when there are a million other ways to be heard??

    Why not say “hey, we understand we’ve offended some people, we want you to know it’s not about disrespect, so we’re going to change it up.”??

    Because I have news for everyone here, the population was seriously pissed off about this LONG before Trump chose to mention it. All he did was voice the opinion of the majority of the nation.

  31. I don’t think the players are worried about the fans who stop turning on games or coming to them. They’re still going to make their salaries as we all saw how much the NFL racked up in the past few years. I also don’t think they should be worried about those “fans” either. If you can’t support the player as a human being, I’m sure they really don’t care whether you choose to support their team or not. Life is much bigger than football, and those who understand such will gain support from those who do. People haven’t accounted for the amount of new fans who watch the NFL just because some of these guys are choosing to take a stand against social injustices, and things that pertain to people who look like them.

  32. Jermaine McNeil says:
    June 29, 2018 at 8:02 am
    The irony of all of this is that the first couple of comments on this thread prove Hopkins point. LOL He tells us that the flag was not the reason he kneeled, and “SOME” of the American people are still so close minded to think it is about the flag. So, why should he be trying to have a conversation with anyone who has already proved they have no intention to listen to. Seems like common sense to me.
    __________________________________

    Hey guess what? What “seems like common sense” to YOU looks and smells exactly like a steaming pile of BS to those of us who can think clearly. Why? Because actions speak louder than words. That’s why.

    If it’s not about disrespecting the flag, then STOP deliberately doing things that are disrespectful to the flag in the way you protest. It really is that simple.

  33. whynotjustadmitit says:
    June 29, 2018 at 8:29 am
    …Ofcourse there’s a small percentage of racist scumbags out there, ofcourse. But until the ones that are not racist speak up more, nothing will change. That’s all these guys want man….is for you to Try, at a minimum, to understand…that’s it. That’s all.
    _____________________________

    LOL. DUDE! If “that’s all these guys want,” then why DEMAND things like blanket pardons when the president was clearly TRYING to bridge the gap?

    Your naivete is cute. It just doesn’t hold water in light of the facts. You want to sound like a voice of reason in a wholly unreasonable situation.

    And maybe people would try harder if these children stopped offending so many people by disrespecting our nation. Did you ever consider that?

  34. fsstnotch says:
    June 29, 2018 at 8:38 am

    People want to watch football, not politics.

    ***********************************************************************************

    Real shame that life can’t always be so convenient. Plenty of people that live with far worse than having to be so unduly inconvenienced during 30 seconds of their Sunday football time.

  35. Trump is close-minded. Assumes anyone who takes a knee in protest is unpatriotic.

    Kaep’s sock choice shows that he is also close-minded. Thinks police are pigs because there have been African-Americans shot by police.

  36. Like all fascists Trump is concerned only with himself and his cronies of the 1%. He cares nothing about anyone else and simply views the country as his personal ATM.

  37. President trump offered nfl players the chance to provide names for presidential pardons. I don’t recall Obama doing that.

  38. Re: Trump too “closed-minded” to listen to players

    That could very well turn out be true, the man does strike me as rather obtuse.

    But right now it hasnt turned out either way. Trump did make an offer to listen if they send him something, and so far I am not aware the players have acted on that. Instead they just throw out accusations like this one. That sounds more to me like its the players not listening.

    Im no fan of Trump, I didnt vote for him and he scares me. But I do think he needs to be given a chance to succeed before we all declare him a failure. Otherwise its us that are being obtuse and unreasonable, not Trump. And then those who are trying to undermine and obstruct just so we can insure our predictions of failure come true are as much part of the problem as he is.

    So with that said, when do the camps open? I need some football to distract me from having to think about this stuff all day every day.

  39. hagemeisterpark920 says:
    June 29, 2018 at 9:41 am
    Why do it during the anthem – something that is so sacred to so many of us?

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    Not at all would be so much more preferable, than messing up our “sacred time.”

  40. I question the validity of any internet veteran claiming they’re ok with kneeling for the flag…I served and still keep in contact with many friends and associates both retire and active…I’ve yet to meet one Service member face to face who claimed they were ok with someone kneeling for the Anthem…I’d love to see one of these so-called vets come down here to Quantico, walk on base and kneel during the playing of the National Anthem…I double dare em…

  41. hagemeisterpark920 says:
    June 29, 2018 at 9:41 am
    Why do it during the anthem – something that is so sacred to so many of us?

    ———–

    Because they are the “look at me” generation. Just look at the way some of these guys showboat after getting a sack even as their team is getting beat by 30 points

  42. puzzleguypolitics says:
    June 29, 2018 at 7:04 am

    D-Hop: It’s not that Primadonald Trump is “closeminded. It’s that he has found a phony issue that he can use to rile up his base. Nothing else matters.
    ——————–
    nailed it.

  43. Majority of these players that kneel dont do anything behind the scenes to help out with the real issues they are allegedly protesting. For most of them it’s all show and a PR move to act like they care. Disrespecting the flag is not going to change anything with real world problems.

  44. If it’s not about the flag, then why do it during the anthem?

    Why not kneel at lunch time in the cafeteria? How about at the end of a game before you leave the field? Better yet – how about on your own time, away from the workplace? Whether or not you realize it, players have collectively made it about the flag. Of course the President has chosen to make this an issue on a much larger scale (which I personally disagree with), but don’t act like you didn’t expect this kind of controversy.

  45. my_old_name_was_offensive says:
    June 29, 2018 at 10:03 am
    I question the validity of any internet veteran claiming they’re ok with kneeling for the flag…I served and still keep in contact with many friends and associates both retire and active…I’ve yet to meet one Service member face to face who claimed they were ok with someone kneeling for the Anthem…I’d love to see one of these so-called vets come down here to Quantico, walk on base and kneel during the playing of the National Anthem…I double dare em…

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    I come from a military family with three generations of people who have served. I can assure you that none of them are ok with this.

  46. ameriKKKans: these stupid libtard SJWs are ruining everything! go your safe space, snowflake!

    same people when an athlete kneels: OMG I SO OFFENDED HOW DARE YOU BE SO DISREPECTFUL BOOOO HHHHOO WAAAAAHHHHH!!!!

  47. I’m amazed that this topic still gets the majority of PFTers upset. I’m just going to sit back and relax and enjoy this Friday and this comment section.

    “Hatred is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die” –Unknown

  48. It seems its a closed minded statement to say Trump, or anyone else, thinks they are kneeling BECAUSE of the flag.
    You are kneeling in protest of perceived injustices in the justice system. Many have said they don’t think the form and time of the protest (kneeling during the anthem is appropriate.
    But the closed minded president has said, show me examples of these injustices. He’s even very publicly corrected one.
    So he knows why you are protesting. He’s reacted to the purpose of your protest.
    So, again, who is closed minded?

  49. Trumps sat and joked with Hannity while the flag was lowered, which also violates the US Flag Code.

    So he really is in the same boat as the players, regardless of whether he or his supporters will admit it.

  50. This issue has really gone crazy. People are kneeling because some police ( ie our protectors ) have executed, on camera, US citizens.
    This is illegal but continues. The flag has no meaning while these actions occur. Criticizing those shedding light on this behavior shows a severe deficiency in cognitive understanding of what the USA is.
    The flag doesn’t matter if citizens are being executed by the government. The flag is not as important as the rule of law and the people of the USA.
    This is one country for now, and amazingly, we are actually on the same team.
    Nobody wants police executing US citizens. Let’s fix this together. There are not two sides to this.

  51. I think people are outraged that they have chosen the manner in which they are protesting. To those of us who have served in the military it feels like a slap in the face. They are protesting because they are unhappy about things that are going on and want change but when people say they feel it’s disrespectful that they choose to do it during the national anthem they say “Too bad”. So they want to be heard but yet they don’t want to listen to anyone else.

    Also, what exactly are they protesting? Are they protesting social injustice against black people? Why not protest social injustice against all races/nationalities/creeds? Yet they proclaim it’s the other side that is divisive. Wow. Talk about no touch with reality. It’s hard to respect people like Malcolm Jenkins who gives Super Bowl tickets to someone who was in jail for murder because he feels sorry for the guy yet completely ignore the person who was killed. On top of that, why aren’t they protesting the youth in Chicago that are being murdered every day. Where’s the outrage for that? It’s because they can’t try to pin the blame on someone else. This selective protesting is disingenuous and pathetic.

  52. 90% of the people you are trying to reach out to with your protest of kneeling actually think you are kneeling against flag and country whether you are intending to or not so pick another Avenue to protest

  53. Can’t wait till football season begins. And I hope the players keep protesting until something good comes out of this.

  54. WHY do you think people are interested in your beliefs, Hopkins.
    Were it not for football, you are nothing but a average, common guy.
    Get over yourself.

  55. steaksandwichandsteaksandwich says:

    Trump is close-minded. Assumes anyone who takes a knee in protest is unpatriotic.
    ==========================================================

    It’s the act of choosing to take a knee at the exact moment the national anthem is playing and the flag is being spread on the field. The definition of patriotism is “vigorous support for one’s country”. Using symbols of the country to protest is not support for the country.

  56. I come from a military family with three generations of people who have served. I can assure you that none of them are ok with this.
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    Me too. Heck that doesn’t make either of us special. Most Americans have veterans that both made it home and some that didn’t. Even my most right right right wing relatives all say the same thing. “I don’t agree with it but this is why we serve {in some cases fight.}”

  57. ExitStrategy says:

    If it’s not about the flag, then why do it during the anthem?
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    They hide from that question like it’s the plague.

  58. dcpatfan says:
    June 29, 2018 at 7:25 am
    With all due respect DeAndre, even trump knows its not about anything to do with the rubberstamp laundry list of “patriotspeak”

    He’s pandering to a select group of people, at a selected time, to achieve a specific goal.

    =====================================================
    The “sheep” are the kneelers and their supporters who don’t want to
    accept that Kapernick made it all about the flag!

  59. “Democracy is being destroyed in this country by a president that is dividing the nation at every turn based on inflamtory, self-serving half-truths and outright lies”

    ——–

    Well, he’s half the problem. But things usually tear when they’re pulled from two sides.

  60. birdwatcher100 says:
    June 29, 2018 at 7:07 am
    Democracy is being destroyed in this country by a president that is dividing the nation at every turn based on inflamtory, self-serving half-truths and outright lies. If you don’t think we’re on a crash course for a civil war just note the balance of thumbs up vs thumbs down that this comment gets.

    88 207 Rate This

    ———

    Looks like you’d be losing that war bud by a long shot.

  61. If the players said “We’ll stand for the anthem, but we want the following changes to be made to protect innocent people from inequality and brutality 1) x 2) x 3) x and we will ask the people we want to help to refrain from this to cops and the general public 1) x 2) 3) x”

    How about that to actually accomplish something in a non-close minded way.

  62. If you don’ like it when celebrities or athletes talk about politics, become one and shut up.
    You know, set an example, practice what you preach.

  63. If you don’ like it when celebrities or athletes talk about politics, become one and shut up.
    You know, set an example, practice what you preach.
    ——
    As Americans, they have as much right as anyone else. You can’t handle someone else having an opinion but I bet you call people snowflakes if they don’t like your opinion. You want to be able to leave public opinions but you don’t want them to have the same rights as you. Not logical. Trump is a celebrity. Bet you love his talking politics. That comes of as hypocritical. Especially coming from someone suggesting that they practice what they preach.

  64. Is there anyway The National Protest League can create a chart for us so we know exactly what each protester is representing when they are protesting during our National Anthem and the presentation of our American Flag? I mean, I don’t think that will bring back the fans or reduce the future carnage of the fan base but at those that enjoy the protests know what they are watching.

  65. I can’t believe some of these comments. People, it’s a free country. People have a right to protest. The players kneeling was a non violent way of players saying ” the national anthem, the flag , and all it represents, unfortunately, in some areas of our society, they don’t seem to apply to black men. specifically when it comes to some police.” Why should anyone have to stand silently and honor what the anthem represents .. when it clearly doesn’t seem to represent the same thing for some black men.
    It is so disgusting that people that object to players protesting twist and manipulate the issue. Non violent protesting, is one of the things that make our country great. I actually think , in the long run, nfl players taking a knee will looked back on very much in the same way,, history books look back on rosa parks.. Unfortuantely,It won’t be until the next generation. And for the record.. I personally don’t think football viewership is down. I think the way they measure viewership is not capturing how many people today consume football games. I for one, don’t watch the games on my tv. I stream them through reddit.. Its easier than going to the actual website of whatever station is broadcasting the game. I am a bigger football fan than ever. However, if you are measuring using broadcast tv statistics. You would think I haven’t watch a game in years.

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