League says Winston risks “a potential ban from the NFL” with a future violation

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The NFL’s public statement on Jameis Winston‘s three-game suspension suggested that Winston could be one violation of the personal-conduct policy away from a lifetime ban.

“In addition, a future violation of the Personal Conduct Policy will result in more substantial discipline, including a potential ban from the NFL,” the league’s statement said.

Of course, the NFL also said after the Ray Rice fiasco that a six-game suspension would be the baseline for domestic violence or sexual assault, and yet Winston got only three games even though the NFL’s own findings concluded that Winston touched an Uber driver “in an inappropriate and sexual manner without her consent.” So the NFL doesn’t always follow through on warnings about the severity of its suspensions. And the league has used that language in other letters to players suspended under the personal conduct policy, including Ezekiel Elliott last year.

Still, the words “potential ban” show just how serious a situation this is for Winston and the Buccaneers. A former first overall pick in the draft, a player who might be one of the league’s brightest stars for the next 15 years, also might be just one bad act away from never playing in the NFL again.

85 responses to “League says Winston risks “a potential ban from the NFL” with a future violation

  1. Winston negotiated this suspension with the NFL.

    Are you kidding me? You potentially commit sexual assault and you get to negotiate your punishment? Am I crazy, or are people not making a big enough issue of this?

  2. The league is “so serious” they only gave him 3 games.

    What a cesspool 345 Park Ave. is…

  3. There’s that hard-line approach we were looking for. If he commits ANOTHER Sexual Assault he COULD be banned. Plus we’ll be super duper angry with him if he does it.

    The NFL can’t stay out of its own way.

  4. Let’s be honest – society looks at “domestic violence” and “sexual assault” as two entirely different crimes, with different consequences. Not saying it is right, but the disparity between 6 and 3 games isn’t all that surprising. If he had raped the driver, I am confident that not only would he be in jail, but he would have had a lot more than a 6 game suspension. Not saying it is right, again, but the fact is society hasn’t caught up just yet. We have a president that brags about groping women.

    All that said, I am glad they’re giving this guy a no tolerance approach. Like him, don’t like him…I don’t care. I don’t judge people, especially when I do not know them personally. But he clearly has something wrong with him. I personally don’t want that kind of behavior to represent my organization.

  5. Just shows how talent (or perceived talent) trumps character.

    In 2015, everyone ranked Marcus Mariota as a 10 out of 10 on the character scale, and Jameis Winston had to be a 1 or a 2. And yet the Bucs made their choice based on a belief that Winston was the better talent.

  6. Jameis, you can always find a home playing for the Steelers… They treat guys like u like absolute royalty….

  7. Watching Dan Patrick and he said he was told by a league source that Winston only got 3 games because “this was not viewed as sexual assault”.

    That’s how twisted the league is. Physically shoving your hand between a woman’s legs and groping her is not viewed as sexual activity or assault by Goodell and his cronies.

    Disgusting. Its long past time for Goodell to be gone.

  8. Decisions like this is why the NFL catches so much flak about player discipline.

    How do you go from 3 games to lifetime ban? If that’s the next step then they should have suspended him for 8 games or the season.

    If I’m the Bucs I look to move on by trading him or releasing him outright.

  9. Future violation?! THIS violation has not been dealt with, in my opinion. A 3 game suspension for sexual assault?! This person, Winston, has no idea of comportment and a 3 game suspension teaches him nothing, and shows the world that crimes committed by celebrities DO pay.

  10. “Potential”. So if there is another occurance they might apply a more severe punishment unless they dont. Thats basically what that statement says when it includes that qualifier. So really that sentance could be applied to anything any player might ever do in the future. Looks pretty in a press release though.

  11. How many times to District Attorneys look to plead a case down? It guarantees a conviction (a win) and saves the time and expense of a trial.

    In this case, had they thrown the full 6 games at him – he would have likely dragged this out to court, ensuring more details about this situation get out into the public, and damaging the brand of the NFL further. Clearly he isn’t concerned about his own brand, based on his actions.

    By having the 6 game suspension out there – it gave the NFL the opportunity to negotiate off of.

  12. steaksandwichandsteaksandwich says:
    June 29, 2018 at 10:56 am
    Just shows how talent (or perceived talent) trumps character.
    —-
    Did you say Trump’s character?
    Per our leader:
    “When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.”

  13. When will everyone stop screaming about the REAL CRIMINALS…

    … and…

    … get back to demonizing hardnose All-Pro Vontaze Burfict (NEVER BEEN ARRESTED).

  14. harrisonhits2 says:
    June 29, 2018 at 10:56 am
    Watching Dan Patrick and he said he was told by a league source that Winston only got 3 games because “this was not viewed as sexual assault”.

    That’s how twisted the league is. Physically shoving your hand between a woman’s legs and groping her is not viewed as sexual activity or assault by Goodell and his cronies.

    Disgusting. Its long past time for Goodell to be gone.

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    I am so glad Brady was framed, though. Our 1st rd pick not able to be on the field again in a Super Bowl is the lone focus and accomplishment by Goodell and the cheating owners involved, so the league has that going for them.

    Chin up.

    Ratings aren’t tumbling either. It’s all a myth. lmao

  15. Ugadogs21 says:
    June 29, 2018 at 10:57 am
    Decisions like this is why the NFL catches so much flak about player discipline.

    How do you go from 3 games to lifetime ban? If that’s the next step then they should have suspended him for 8 games or the season.

    If I’m the Bucs I look to move on by trading him or releasing him outright.

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    Because Glazer has a lot of money, owns multiple sports teams and this was negotiated down.

    I would argue Glazer is working with Kahn to help transition Jax to London, but I have no proof of this. Just a theory.

    Follow the money.

  16. This is why the disciplinary policy in the NFL is a failure. It is poorly written and the league looks to either use it heavy-handed or as a slap on the wrist depending on the team/player/position/public sentiment/sponsor engagement. Rewrite the policy and break down some vague terms like sexual assault in to simple categories based on severity. The behavior in question and the player’s history of discipline should be the only considerations for what consequences are imposed. Limit appeals to go/no-go and eliminate the stupidity of a 6 game suspension being lowered to 4 games or 2 games to 1 game. That undermines the entire process and allows for “deals” to be made behind the scenes as is suspected here. The union always seems to fight the decision so it will be interesting to see what happens here. I think they should look at the evidence and fight those cases where an actual injustice may have happened and stop defending the clowns that everybody knows are guilty as accused. The irony is the league lacks discipline in executing a discipline policy.

  17. Winston will just laugh that off. After all, he’s been enabled his entire life and always been able to get away with things the general public would be in jail for. He’ll do it again. He’s just not bright enough to realize the consequences until it’s too late. What a knucklehead. At least Ryan Leaf seems to have put his life back together. I doubt Jameis ever will.

  18. Given he was allowed to negotiate this suspension down, a full ban from the NFL would translate into something like 8 games.

  19. So Josh Gordon and Martavis Bryant have been suspended a whole year for MJ but this sexual predator gets another slap on the wrist.. Is this real????

  20. Pretty obvious he got 3 games for failing to report the incident, which means they don’t have enough to actually go the sexual assault route.
    But don’t try to explain that to anyone around here.

  21. steaksandwichandsteaksandwich says:
    June 29, 2018 at 10:56 am
    Just shows how talent (or perceived talent) trumps character.

    In 2015, everyone ranked Marcus Mariota as a 10 out of 10 on the character scale, and Jameis Winston had to be a 1 or a 2. And yet the Bucs made their choice based on a belief that Winston was the better talent.

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    GMs actually thought that Mariota’s lack of red flags was a red flag. Lol WTF?!? I mean, I’m a Titans fan & was glad they took Winston so we got Mariota. Mariota has even played better than Winston (including his down year last year). But Mariota is easy to root for too because he’s just a good kid.

  22. As a football fan, it’s hard not to feel bad for bottom feeder teams… To be genuinely happy when they get a win, Especially over winning teams.. The Bucs ARE the Browns of the NFC and have been a losing team for a long time…

    They deserve it for knowing a guy’s track record of bad behavior and taking him when they had better choices.. No one needed a crystal ball and special power to foresee this outcome on the night he was drafted…

    So if whatever they do sets them back 5 years or whatever, it is the results of their own choices… You wanted to draft him so bad IN SPITE OF public opinion and much of your own fan base, so reap what you’ve sown and deal with it…

  23. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if the Uber drive declined to press charges, signed a NDA, and now has a new house in Fountain Hill. By doing that the courts or the NFL have nothing to go on. If they tried to get more than the 3 games he agreed to, they end up looking like fools.

  24. Elliott was never charged and the witness was found to be a liar and he got a 6 game suspension. Oh it was because of the uncovering of a breast?

  25. Winston looks like he’s throwing a medicine ball. Bucs were crazy to draft him 1st overall. His ceiling is a mediocre QB with character concerns.

  26. In today’s “Me Too” movement era the NFL actually negotiates with Winston over a sexual assault? Wow, the NFL probably has DESTROYED it’s relationship with female fans!

  27. meetadam says:
    June 29, 2018 at 11:21 am
    Wouldn’t a normal person get some jail time for being guilty of sexual assault?

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    Yes, but PEDton Manning is not a normal person. He is protected by entitled daddy and the other Mannings with Goodell.

  28. “That’s how twisted the league is. Physically shoving your hand between a woman’s legs and groping her is not viewed as sexual activity or assault by Goodell and his cronies.”

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    Where did you read this? I’m not trying to argue, but I have yet to read what the league concluded he actually did.

    There are different levels of harassment, and of abuse; the three games may be too little, may be too much, or may be the right amount. The fact that we don’t know what he actually did makes that part hard to judge. What I can say is that if it’s not a very minor offense, I would be incensed. Not just because he’d be getting away with an easy deal, but because the NFL suspended another player for a six games without any evidence of misconduct. If Winston had been charged criminally, I’d expect the punishment to be heavier.

  29. He’s like Kellen Winslow jr.
    The league doesn’t need him. He’s a psychopath. He’s not going to change. He may win some games for TB, but he’s a risk to the other 31 teams.

  30. “We have a president that brags about groping women.”

    While I am in agreement that our current President has some serious flaws, the above comment is stated in the present tense. That sound bite was over ten years ago.

    Now if you said “bragged” it would be accurate.

  31. Trump has set a terrible example for our young people. No doubt Jameis heard those Access Hollywood tapes of Trump and decided to give it a go himself.

  32. orangeraider says:
    June 29, 2018 at 11:35 am
    Winston gets 3 games for sexual assault.
    Brady gets 4 games for inflation issues.

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    Brady got 4 games because he may have been generally aware that someone else may have been involved in a scheme to deflate footballs.

    Winston got 3 games for grabbing a woman’s crotch.

    I’m trying to understand the logic here…but there isn’t any.

  33. Can the NFL simply write up a list of all the different kinds of sexual assaults and inappropriate behaviors and assign it a disciplinary action for each? The table of Discipline they will call it.

    It would make the NFL look better but optics is not something they are particularly interested in.

  34. “potential to be banned”

    Which was inserted so the NFL can ban him at the most advantageous time for the Giants, even for the smallest violation. That way Winston can’t say he wasn’t warned.

  35. Isn’t this the guy who stood on a chair in a college cafeteria and screamed ………….?

    Charming lowlife. Vermin like him are making me rethink my decision to watch any NFL on tv.

  36. tylawspick6 says:
    June 29, 2018 at 11:54 am

    meetadam says:
    June 29, 2018 at 11:21 am
    Wouldn’t a normal person get some jail time for being guilty of sexual assault?

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    Yes, but PEDton Manning is not a normal person. He is protected by entitled daddy and the other Mannings with Goodell.

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    The Manning incident/joke happened 20 years ago. It was never reported to the Police, so the NFL had no recourse. The NFL only cares when the law gets involved. The Winston situation was reported to the Police, lawyers were hired, sworn statements were given. It’s a real case that could have real consequences.

  37. “In today’s “Me Too” movement era the NFL actually negotiates with Winston over a sexual assault? Wow, the NFL probably has DESTROYED it’s relationship with female fans!”

    Given the relatively close proximity to each other of the Ray Rice, Josh Brown and other predatory incidents related to women including Winston, I’m stunned that NOW or some other women’s group hasn’t called for a boycott on the NFL by women fans.

  38. So, we have another instance of this with this jack wagon. Hopefully, he gets tossed out of the league eventually. 3 for rape. 4 for footballs. 16 for weed. #NFLLOGIC

  39. Wow how tough is the league? Give me a break this clown only received a 3 game suspension. The football side of it should surprise nobody with all the baggage this moron had at FSU. The BUCS knew what they were getting.

  40. How does anyone relate to this league? It is just so hard to root anymore. I am a Jets fan. Todd Bowles basically stated that ‘arrests are going to happen’ They had too many players in trouble with the law. Look at the teams and see who had problems with law enforcement. Too many to count. Between the anthem issue and the criminal issues that many players have the league has become unwatchable to many people. Sadly I am becoming one of them.

  41. Ugadogs21 says:

    June 29, 2018 at 10:57 am

    Decisions like this is why the NFL catches so much flak about player discipline.

    How do you go from 3 games to lifetime ban? If that’s the next step then they should have suspended him for 8 games or the season.

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    Yeah this is weird, in Goodell’s eyes what Elliot did must be deemed worse than what Winston did for his suspension to have been twice as long. Is he also one incident away from a lifetime ban?

  42. The NFL has shot themselves in the foot again with this ridiculous decision.

    Brady gets 4 games for an under inflated football, and Jamis gets only 3 games for assaulting a female driver.

    Jamis, go celebrate tonight, ’cause you just punked the NFL …and the Glazer’s …and us fans.

  43. Winston is about to be Ray Riced! Not going to be getting a big contract and probably will be fighting just stay in the league as a back up if he plays poorly after the suspension. Maybe he can join Kaep and blame the league instead of himself.

  44. Ah, so the NFL has the three strike rule in place for rape/sexual assault? The first two are okay, but do it a third time and they’ll ban you. cool, cool.

  45. If Winston were to get himself banned, and I don’t put it past him, what would the Bucs be losing, really? A habitual sex offender with a penchant for shoplifting? A guy who last season, “ate” only five W’s and choked on eleven L’s…oh and threw eleven interceptions? He is so NOT worth the trouble.

  46. Seahawks on Line 1.

  47. Meanwhile the likes of vontaze burfict does something to get suspended on a yearly basis and all he ever misses is 3 or 4 games at a time.

    I’m all for banning Winston for his continued stupidity but he’s not the only one who warrants it

  48. So Winston is allowed to negotiate his punishment but Ezekiel Elliot gets the book thrown at him? If I were Jerry Jones I would be livid and get my lawyer onthe line. Goodell has to go!

  49. Pathetic as “justice for that day” continues.
    The only thing consistent, is the inconsistency handed down by Emperor Goodell.
    The lawyers seem to spin the wheel of pain to come up with the punishment. From Brady to Big Ben to Zeke, Winston, Ray Rice.
    A bunch of BS with no precedents, past violations or anything.
    The US legal system, The more money and clout you have, the lesser is the punishment.
    The NFL sucks and needs to be taken down many a peg.

  50. This is interesting.

    Advocates for the Rapist Winston claim that he was falsely accused of rape.

    And that would mean his only transgression is physically and sexually assaulting an Uber driver while her clothes were on.

    So how does he, therefore, risk a lifetime bound.

    Unless, he really did rape the woman while in college and the NFL is covering for him because he’s a black player.

    Something doesn’t fit the story presented here.

  51. Cut him. He can then move to either Washington or Baltimore and have lunch with the Prez!

  52. If I were a betting man, I’d be willing to bet that there’s no way Winston can keep his obviously problematic self out of trouble. He has a long, sordid history of screwups and stupid behaviors, so why should we expect anything different from him in the future? The Bucs would be wise to cut or trade him now, because if he stays with the team he’ll implode sooner or later anyway. It’s what he does.

  53. Wait, I’m not saying this didn’t happen but when it occurs between an obviously drunk dude, after 2am, who was given permission to sit in the front seat of an Uber driver’s car, who was going through a drive through lane of restaurant, and no one but the two of them know of it, how did the NFL get enough evidence to suspend him? To me this feels like pandering to the court of public opinion.

  54. You know what is hypocritical. The NFL suspends players for smoking weed.
    Players in their twenties are denied the ability to earn a living for
    using a susbstance that is now legal in many states. It is also a recognized
    drug for certain medical conditions. Yet they suspend for a sexual assault
    For 3 games. Something is not right.m
    I would like to make a bet or set out to determine if any present owners of
    NFL teams smoked weed in their college and early 20’s. I guess it was ok
    for them to smoke weed in their rich fraternities.
    However now they hypocritically deny certain players to play football
    for a nonviolent, non sexual act in the privacy of their house.
    I would love to see a newspaper reporter ask a current owner if he smoked
    weed in his 20’s ….and as a result did he or she lose her job..or was he
    or she suspended

  55. This guy had bust written all over him coming out and I called it then … he lacks the maturity needed to be an elite pro and he can’t live up to those expectations. Bucs will for sure start the season 0-3 … book it now … and that hole will prove to be too much for Tampa Bay … #ItsJagNationTime

  56. There are a lot of words that could be used to describe Jameis Winston, but I gotta tell you, I wouldn’t have thought of bright.

  57. spartan01 says:
    June 29, 2018 at 8:55 pm

    Wait, I’m not saying this didn’t happen but when it occurs between an obviously drunk dude, after 2am, who was given permission to sit in the front seat of an Uber driver’s car, who was going through a drive through lane of restaurant, and no one but the two of them know of it, how did the NFL get enough evidence to suspend him? To me this feels like pandering to the court of public opinion.
    ——————

    You nailed it…. pandering – That’s ALL Goodell EVER does is go by MOB Rule. He’s the NERO (ceasar) and the NFL is the Gladiatorial games of the 21st century.
    And Goodell uses the thumbs up/down MOB RULE on everything. He’s weak. A wuss and a disgrace to the sport.

    No evidence, not even a pic of the so called victim who made a fortune off of JW suposedly ‘grazing her’ over that area. That was the words she orginally text to a friend – it changed to grope when she got the lawyer because grazed what get the mob interested enough.

    10 to 1 she spoke to a local lawyer about pressing charges and he said – NO CHANCE, even if you had a camera. Its not intrusive enough. The NFL provide her the fuel to screw one of their own.

    And the NFL says the back social justice? What a laugh!

    Fire GOODELL NOW!

  58. He only gets 3 games for sexual assault? They must have a “Wheel of Fortune” for punishments on Park Ave. Goodell spins it once,and wherever it lands,that is your punishment,whether it’s fair or not. If it lands on BONUS,you are completely exonerated. It sure seems this way,doesn’t it? Brady got 4 for something ridiculous. I’d say that habitually violating women is pretty serious.

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