Will Buccaneers fans continue to support Jameis Winston?

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Star athletes who get into off-field trouble rarely lose the support of their teams’ fans, no matter what they do — as long as they keep helping their team win. Will Buccaneers fans be any different with quarterback Jameis Winston be any different?

Probably not. There’s a long history of sports fans gladly looking the other way about a player who has committed sexual assault or domestic violence or anything else, as long as he helps the team win. But there are some indications that at least a few Buccaneers fans have had it with Winston after he was suspended three games for groping an Uber driver.

John Schuzer, who has been a Buccaneers fan since the franchise was founded in 1976, and who has kept up his season tickets even though he lives in Chicago, told the Tampa Bay Times he’s done cheering for Winston. A longtime Winston fan, Schuzer shipped his Winston jersey to the Buccaneers’ headquarters with a note telling them he can no longer support Winston, after both the statement from the NFL finding the Uber driver’s accusation credible, and Winston’s insincere apology.

That was the breaking point. I just didn’t find it sincere,” Schuzer said. “He was just covering his own [butt]. To me, I didn’t think there was anything tangible in there in terms of owning up to what he did. It was the final straw. You create more chaos by giving a half-hearted apology than by giving none at all.”

Another Bucs fan wrote on Reddit that he now feels guilty for having ever supported Winston, who was accused of rape at Florida State and also repeatedly got in trouble for other off-field issues.

“Winston’s serial tomfoolery and repeated allegations of sexual misconduct are characteristic of him after all; and just as Jameis realized his actions could ‘bring great embarrassment’ while at FSU, the Buccaneers and our fans now have the embarrassment and predatory manchild on our hands that is Jameis Winston,” the fan wrote, while adding that this incident is worse than anything the team has ever done on the field. “All of these continued failures pale in comparison to the shame of having a sexual predator not only as a player on our franchise, but the face of our franchise.”

A big question facing the Glazer family now is how many fans share those opinions. They may soon decide that Winston is just too toxic for the ownership to continue to support.

93 responses to “Will Buccaneers fans continue to support Jameis Winston?

  1. Did they support him before all this?

    This guy has been a running joke of impropriety his entire pro career. And, it is not like he was a remarkable QB these past few years.

  2. So the fan wants Winston to be sincere and admit to what he did…so he can be locked up for admitting to a crime? I don’t get people’s logic here.

  3. Nobody has ever supported crab legs. He comes across as a low IQ individual that has gotten by on physical gifts. Well that doesn’t work in the NFL. Ask Vince Young. Who had immensely higher levels of physical talent. If you don’t have the IQ and you don’t study these defenses all the time, you’re done for.

  4. as a Patriots fan and Mass Native, people dont normally care to hear from us Bostonians because we tend to be narrow minded IDIOTS. But as a navy veteran and current Police Officer, he should be cut, end of discussion. I know there was an instance in 2010/2011 where Edelman supposedly assaulted a female which was fabricated. Jameis SHOULD BE cut. And considering the GM Jason Licht is a former Patriot staff member under Belichick, I would not be surprised if he phone Bill asking what to do. I dont care if this was committed by Tommy, Aaron, Brees, or any other standup player in the league. I will also note as a MAN, Big Ben shouldve received his too for that crap in the mid 2000’s.

  5. IT’S AMAZING WHAT AN NFL PLAYER CAN GET AWAY WITH-WHERE AS AN AVERAGE TAX PAYING, WALKING DOWN THE EVERYDAY STREET OF LIFE PERSON WOULD BE THROWN IN PRISON. IT ALSO TAKES AWAY (DEMEANS) FROM FOOTBALL IN GENERAL…………….

  6. Considering many Bucs fans are also Gators fans, this could be tough for Jameis to come back from.

    A lot of them were just waiting for something to happen so they could continue the hate they had for him in the college game, and you saw/heard some from these fans during last seasons struggles.

    A fresh start is probably ideal for everyone, but you wouldn’t get anything of meaningful value in a trade right now and it would all but guarantee the front office and coaching staff would be replaced next season.

  7. Actually, as a retired detective, you gt buried in so many cases that you have to ’round file’ stuff you can’t believe. People get away with a lot more than people know. The average schmoe does get screwed.

    The problem here, is that Winston is famous. To be THAT stupid means his emotions take control of his logic. So it’s not stupidity, it’s a personality issue. It sure looks stupid and you really do need to control your emotions, as almost all of us do. But he blamed alcohol. The alcohol just makes you uninhibited and the true person comes out.

    He’s a perp. The jails are full of people who let emotions override logic.

  8. “And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything, grab’em by the…” face of the franchise or face of the nation, it doesn’t matter. Stars who get into off-field trouble rarely lose the support of their teams’ fans, no matter what they do — as long as they keep helping their team win.

  9. Jameis, I hope you socked away some of the money from this contract because the Gravy Train is coming to a halt. Does he deserve forgiveness?? Depends if he is sorry for what he did, or sorry he got nailed for it?
    Does he deserve the lifestyle of a multi millionaire???
    HELL NO!!!!

  10. lightninhopkins says:
    June 30, 2018 at 5:34 pm
    @navyvandal

    Uh, dude the Edelman thing wasn’t made up. Also, James Harrison beat his girlfriend and the Pats have no problem with that.
    ==========================================

    Gettin’ smart with the police officer, are we? It’s almost like you’re asking to be tased.

  11. We’re all sexual predators in a way, but anyone that moves forward when the anser is no is deserving of the penalties established…If he did it he should suffer the consequences. Good men know this. Now get over it. Simp white knights disgust me.

  12. Jameis Winston was smart enough to get into Stanford. Academically smart. But boy there is clearly something wrong with him. It was always evident. Strange dude.

  13. firerogergoodellnow says:

    June 30, 2018 at 5:26 pm

    Ray Lewis murdered two men and he’s in the HOF.

    Most disgusting person in the history of the NFL, OJ Simpson. Not only did he brutally and horrifically kill two people, one being the mother of his children while they slept upstairs and could have woken to find her 1 inch from decapitation but he gloats! Writes a book about doing it where he has the audacity to paint her as the evil one, then he smirks on the golf course, and I’m thankful he served the time he at least did…and YET…he is in posters still and on the wall of the stadium and in the HOF…as if his football career should not be tainted by what he did to those two poor people. It is never going to change in the NFL unless Goodell gets fired, but give him a lifetime contract instead.

  14. stubborndata says:

    donald trump os a scumbag and hes the president. of course the great people of florida wont care.
    ==================================================

    Almost July and the snowflakes are still falling. How does it feel to have zero political power? Haha

  15. This guy is a piece of cow dung…..Tampa doesn’t have the organizational integrity to do the right thing

  16. Buc fan since 1991. We had 5 wins last year and the team has been bad for a long time. We can lose just as well without Winston. I would rather lose with Fitzmagic and feel good about the players on the team. Winston had his chance to be the leader and he blew it on and off the field. Lets not forget the Lattimore incident, FSU rape allegation, FSU baseball suspension for crab legs, luing about who was in car in November statement on this Uber issue…it goes on and on. The players/fans dont trust him. He is not a good person and needs professional help IMHO.

  17. lanman11 says:

    June 30, 2018 at 6:15 pm

    We’re all sexual predators in a way, but anyone that moves forward when the anser is no is deserving of the penalties established…If he did it he should suffer the consequences. Good men know this. Now get over it. Simp white knights disgust me.

    _____________

    I meant don’t categorize all in it to make you feel like being a sexual predator as normal

  18. This is a huge overreaction by Buc fans who historically run off good young QBs.
    How can you be mediocre when you are breaking records? So every quarterback before Jameis is mediocre? How about his defense and running game is well below mediocre

    Ezekiel Elliott exposes a woman to thousands of people but people arent calling him a monster.
    Winston will come back and go 9-4 and all will be forgotten.
    If he goes 4-9 well, back to the drawing board
    Jameis went from inevitably getting that 100M contract to being on the hot seat with his coach and GM.

  19. Many fans left the night they drafted him… It doesn’t take intelligence to foresee a troubled person doesn’t change when you give them huge lumps of cash… Many knew this was coming and just couldn’t in good conscience support this team mentally or financially with him as the face of it… Bad business decision…

    Many who stayed fans still weren’t fans of JW… many over the last 3 years have wanted him gone because of his reputation… Overall I think his supporters were a small number anyway and I’m sure some of them are done defending him…

    JW has made the Bucs look like a laughing-stock for drafting him and the fans fools for supporting him… Many NFL fans think even less of Bucs fans because of this… Some even question, out of all those who support him, how many of them do because they see it as nothing bad because they would do it to…

  20. lightninhopkins says:
    June 30, 2018 at 5:34 pm
    @navyvandal

    Uh, dude the Edelman thing wasn’t made up. Also, James Harrison beat his girlfriend and the Pats have no problem with that.

    Ignore the fact that Harrison did all that as A STEELER / BENGAL

  21. As despicable as it is, the team won’t give up on him until his “distractions” outweigh his play. (Which, they are obviously calculating this terribly as he should already be gone)

    Once they make that determination, then they will take their stand on the issue and “do what’s right”. But not until then. Same with all other teams that have kept proven abusers, rapists, etc.

  22. lanman11 says:

    June 30, 2018 at 6:15 pm

    We’re all sexual predators in a way, but anyone that moves forward when the anser is no is deserving of the penalties established…If he did it he should suffer the consequences. Good men know this. Now get over it. Simp white knights disgust me.
    *********

    In addition to the obvious…but it must be stated for the social justice warriors…violating age restrictions is also heinous. These people are generally sorted out by their fellow men. As it should be.

  23. lightninhopkins says:
    June 30, 2018 at 5:21 pm
    Rothlisberger raped two women and the fans still love him.
    +++
    And you know he did it because… ?

  24. The premise of the article is correct: “as long as he helps the team win.”

    If I’m a Bucs fan, I’d be tired of all the “winning” Winston and the team have been doing lately. They were the second worst team in the conference in the season he was finally supposed to “get it.” Well, he didn’t. If he hadn’t committed this crime, then of course you let him play out the rookie contract (since they don’t have another prospect) and give him one more chance to finally get it. But in addition to not getting it yet, he has ALSO this crime and suspension on him. Why even bother with him this season at all? He is who we thought he was. A sub-par quarterback and a criminal.

  25. Sports fans in general are sycophants now adays. If The guy plays for their team it doesn’t matter if he is a murderer, they will support him. But…… If it is a team that beats their team on a regular basis, it doesn’t matter what the media writes as long as it’s bad. I personally know an FSU fan and it doesn’t matter how many women this guy assaults he will say it’s all lies. However if the NFL Or any other NFL teams make up a complete lie about the Patriots, he will consider it Holy Gospel and try to get it canonized by the Vatican. That’s how messed up this country is today. Just look back to the people that wanted to free O.J. and Michael Jackson. Same thing with politics. Absolutely no difference.

  26. firerogergoodellnow says:
    June 30, 2018 at 5:26 pm
    Ray Lewis murdered two men and he’s in the HOF.

    I watched his trial before he agreed to “help” the prosecution and after. It was the worst prosecution I’ve ever seen or heard of. Ray’s lawyers routinely even helped the prosecutor phrase questions just to move things along with the judge. Then when Ray took the deal and “cooperated” he got on the stand and exonerated the other defendants.

  27. I would be interested to read any comments from members of “women of red”. Being a former bucs season pass holder(not related to this or other incidents) my wife went to a few meetings and it would be interesting to see how they view the qb. The bucs tout female integration as a major goal/topic each season to widen their fanbase.

  28. To Michael E and the other Drumph supporting SNOWFLAKES:

    ‘Snowflake’ was originally coined for the Neo Nazi, far right, sheet starchers before the orange idiot was running for office.

    It was flipped by the far right snowflakes using the Trump, “I’m not a puppet, you’re a puppet” debate method.

    Keep enjoying InfoWars, lemming.

  29. Not anymore.
    From the planes towing signs to throw McKay in the bay to the disaster Culverhouse daughter running them team to the crappy coaxxches.
    NUTS to the high prices, convicts, stupid personnel decisions.
    Its Red Zone for me, baby

  30. Buc fans have supported Jameis from the beginning and they don’t find much wrong with his antics. He is not good according to people outside Tampa. 3,200 more yards and 11 more Td and he becomes the ALL TIME leader in passing yards and passing Td for the buccaneers. And he’ll do it in only 4 years

  31. Why are they surprised. This guy was bad news and very expensive for FSU and not a thing has changed. And to top it off in addition to being a bad apple he is at best an average QB.

  32. It’s not for me to judge wither Mr. Winston is guilty or not. It just amazes me how people can throw stones so quickly. No doubt the accusations are serious, however they are just that, accusations. Consider how difficult it is to defend one’s reputation from this type of accusation. Mr. Winston and the driver know what happened, but no one here was a party to what may or may not have transpired inside that car. Do you all live in glass houses, because it sure seems like this may be the case considering the comments on this page.

  33. For any of you that would continue to support this scumbag I will just ask you all one question

    Would you still support him if it had been your daughter ?

  34. nfl wins they love him. loses they get rid of him.you can beat women,rape women,take steroids just remember to stand for anthem. that is only thing nfl fans with not accept.

  35. Winston has not been arrested or convicted of a crime. The only thing he is completely convicted in the court of public opinion and fake news. Football is played by 22 people. Winston is playing for a coach who backstabbed lovie Smith;Winston is playing for an offensive staff who didn’t want him and they sucked in Atlanta; the defense is horrible; he has no star running back or offensive line. He only has two targets to throw to. Yeah it’s all his fault.

    The nfl has a race problem. It only caters to its white fans. White people have a problem with black people in leadership positions. They dislike black POTUS dislike black head coaches gm and especially hate black quarterbacks. If Winston was white they would be persecuting the user driver. The nfl has to change.if black people were united they should boycott the nfl. But it won’t happen because they are two many uncle Tom’s in the black community

  36. This man is not the same. He is SERIAL and HABITUAL. He probably can’t find a good woman because he is a jerk and an idiot. This isn’t a white/black issue. It’s a male/female issue. He just thinks “I DA MAN” and can get away with anything. NOW if he does something REALLY stupid, if I were a woman, I would sue the NFL because they are NOT giving him enough reason to stop. Zeke got jobbed bye the way.

  37. The person who said the Edelman assault story wasnt fabricated is flat out wrong, and parroting old headlunes without looking into them. Security footage later exonerated him from her claims of groping at a club. He touched her hand once. And she tried to get a payday out of it.

  38. It’ll be interesting to see the fan reaction when he comes back. There’s no way the Bucs cut him because they made him the first pick in the draft. Now, if he stinks it up this year the fans will probably boo him incessantly. Also, if he does stink it up, the Bucs will let him walk at the end of the season. If he plays well, they’ll keep him. Is that what they should do? I can’t answer that but like others have mentioned, the only thing that matters is winning. Sad isn’t it?

  39. lanman11 says:
    June 30, 2018 at 6:15 pm
    We’re all sexual predators in a way
    ==============================
    Nope. That’s a very bold statement. Speak for yourself.

  40. The guy that said bring in Teddy Bridgewater is actually genius. Comparing Crab Legs to Teddy Bridgewater is like comparing night to day. Bucs fans would fall in love with Teddy.

  41. lightninhopkins says:
    June 30, 2018 at 5:21 pm

    Rothlisberger raped two women and the fans still love him.

    —-
    Pittsburgh Rusty Nail fans have no personal conduct standard; it is impossible to use Big Ben as an example about propriety and fan support. I’d contend that these fans who twirl their uric acid yellow towels and invade stadiums around this country like yellow lemmings, would have no problem with Big Ben if he added a vehicular homicide charge on top of his long and battered history with women. These fools only care about winning, period.

  42. marco crawford
    Jun 30, 2018, 8:59 PM EDT
    Winston has not been arrested or convicted of a crime. The only thing he is completely convicted in the court of public opinion and fake news. Football is played by 22 people. Winston is playing for a coach who backstabbed lovie Smith;Winston is playing for an offensive staff who didn’t want him and they sucked in Atlanta; the defense is horrible; he has no star running back or offensive line. He only has two targets to throw to. Yeah it’s all his fault.

    The nfl has a race problem. It only caters to its white fans. White people have a problem with black people in leadership positions. They dislike black POTUS dislike black head coaches gm and especially hate black quarterbacks. If Winston was white they would be persecuting the user driver. The nfl has to change.if black people were united they should boycott the nfl. But it won’t happen because they are two many uncle Tom’s in the black community

    So to sum up your statement, Winston is a great guy and everyone in America is racist. The fact that you’re talking about his play on the field after he was suspended for sexual assault says a lot about you as a person. Let me guess, black people never do anything wrong and if they do it’s the fault of white people. Ya you must be a lot of fun to hang out with

  43. Actually, regarding winston getting cut. There was a nice write-up on here recently breaking down the benefits of releasing him over keeping him. The bucs could save face in all areas by doing so , based on the math and perception.

  44. How can the fans continue to support a guy who A)Can’t seem to keep his hands to himself when it comes to women, B) Steals, C) Has shown little to no improvement on or off the field with his decision-making? He’s not worth all of this trouble and embarrassment. How many chances should they give a guy who just can’t stay out of trouble? He is the same guy he was in college. He needs some serious professional help.

  45. Well, let’s see now. After this drunken night two years ago, what trouble has Winston gotten into since?

    Anyone? Anything?

    He’s been without incident since then. This delayed-reaction outrage about what is at best a highly muddled incident is pretty ridiculous. We’ve all been living with the post-incident Winston for TWO YEARS with no complaints or relapses.

    Our social-media-compromised inability to apply perspective of time to information is not sufficient grounds for anything.

  46. boyso3 says:
    June 30, 2018 at 10:10 pm
    marco crawford
    Jun 30, 2018, 8:59 PM EDT
    Winston has not been arrested or convicted of a crime. The only thing he is completely convicted in the court of public opinion and fake news. Football is played by 22 people. Winston is playing for a coach who backstabbed lovie Smith;Winston is playing for an offensive staff who didn’t want him and they sucked in Atlanta; the defense is horrible; he has no star running back or offensive line. He only has two targets to throw to. Yeah it’s all his fault.

    The nfl has a race problem. It only caters to its white fans. White people have a problem with black people in leadership positions. They dislike black POTUS dislike black head coaches gm and especially hate black quarterbacks. If Winston was white they would be persecuting the user driver. The nfl has to change.if black people were united they should boycott the nfl. But it won’t happen because they are two many uncle Tom’s in the black community

    So to sum up your statement, Winston is a great guy and everyone in America is racist. The fact that you’re talking about his play on the field after he was suspended for sexual assault says a lot about you as a person. Let me guess, black people never do anything wrong and if they do it’s the fault of white people. Ya you must be a lot of fun to hang out with
    ———————–

    To boyso3 – how are we supposed to tell where the original comment ends and yours begins? I wouldn’t care to hang out with someone who doesn’t communicate effectively. marco crawford makes some good points. You, on the other hand… let’s just say I hope you drive your car better than you format your comments. Dotted lines are free in case you’re worried about it.

  47. Viking fans welcomed back and cheered for a child abuser.
    Never once did they expect him to show contrition or admit guilt.
    And even allowed him to play the victim throughout the sordid affair.
    You seriously can’t get much lower than that.

    Hopefully Buc fans show their integrity and morals can’t be bought for 3 or 4 more wins a season.
    It’s just not worth it.
    Regardless of what the team does, it’s possible to still love your team, but hold the players on it responsible for their actions.
    Allow your voices to be heard.

  48. After all the kneelers any player that stands for national anthem is OK, shows just what I think of kneelers. Kneelers are lower than anything else

  49. lightninhopkins says:
    June 30, 2018 at 5:34 pm
    @navyvandal

    Uh, dude the Edelman thing wasn’t made up. Also, James Harrison beat his girlfriend and the Pats have no problem with that.

    Um, dude. James Harrison was a Pat for about 5 minutes, but he was a STEELER when he beat his girlfriend, and trust me, the Steelers revered him. One other Steeler player, Cederick Wilson was busted for DV at the same time as Harrison, but Wilson was cut by the team because he wasn’t a STAR like Harrison was. Trust me. The reason Harrison was kept on by the Rooney family was that the reason Harrison gave for attacking his gf with the cell phone was that the gf would not take the child to church to be baptized. That is a reason to keep a player? That’s screwed up.

    As for Jameison, I think when Winston costs the team money, then they will cut him. Condescending Pats haters like to pick on the Pats over crap. At least when Hernandez was arrested, they cut his rear end. Will Tampa Bay have the same fortitude to do that to Winston? I don’t think so. I’d like to be proven wrong, though.

  50. was more turned off by Jameis for eating a W

    Not sure he ever got to eat a W.. he always struggled with eating the alphabet because he always choked on the D…

  51. Most “fans” are stupid and daft and haven’t drunk quite enough.
    The first three words in the title give it away, “Will Buccaneers fans…” Why would anyone with a functioning brain be fans of the Buccaneers. Come on now, that was easy.

  52. Will be out of the league in two years, the last spent as a back-up. Inconsistent performance: Vince Young II.

  53. If I were an NFL GM, I would hire sexy women to stalk opposing teams’ top players with hopes that they could get into a situation where a credible “sexual misconduct” charge could be made.

  54. The so-called fan got his 15 minutes of fame for drama. It’s all about team. Players come and go. Winston hasn’t changed so why does anyone expect him? Avoid the hero worshiping and enjoy the games and teams.

  55. marco crawford says:
    June 30, 2018 at 9:16 pm
    It is a black white issue
    —————————————

    Really? And here most of us thought sexual assault had more to do with gender. I have yet to see the race of the groped driver identified nor anything about Winston being a preferential offender.

  56. “Well, let’s see now. After this drunken night two years ago, what trouble has Winston gotten into since?
    Anyone? Anything?

    He’s been without incident since then”

    He hasn’t assaulted anyone since his last assault.

    What a great guy.

  57. This BUCS FAN Totally backs JW!

    This nothing burger ‘grazed his fingers over my pants’ – Golddigger Kate’s original words to describe this event.

    And there is NO evidence for that No proof, lets drunk man alone sit in front seat? Or was he with someone else? who knows NO One

    Bottomline – even if it happened there would be on charges hence why she needed Goodell to publicly throw JW under the bus. The entire Kate case is based on the NFL “investigation” – No one will care in 4 weeks. No one believes Goodell after the hyper media uproar is over its ‘who cares’

    Big Ben – wayyyy worse accusations – no one cares. Its too easy to accuse a guy for money. AP child case – people didn’t think it was as bad as idiot Roger. Brady railroaded after investigation that proves the NFL is nothing more than a PR machine – Brady was the ‘white’ person to get thrown under bus after Roger was accusedof fcusing on black players.

    I WILL NEVER Forgive Roger for ruining the game with his endless MOB rule tactics and inconsistency. He is a weak leader.
    Also:

    never ending horrible rule changes
    endless instant replays
    softening the game

    and the Anthem issue which is a no brainer – just stand while on company time like ever other working person. And the irony here is RG/NFL says they support ‘social justice’ and then without any criminal charges or evidence railroads JW

    FIRE ROGER NOW. Never forgive him.

  58. What would upset me if I was a buck fan, he did these incidents when there weren’t witnesses. That is pure character flaw that I couldn’t support as in buying tickets and concessions.
    The fans are the only ones who can do anything by pulling the financial sport. Half empty stadiums say a lot.

  59. Jam11163, you’re an idiot and a perfect example why Malcom Jenkins was holding up that sign. He’s their franchise QB, those players don’t get cut, period. This creep should be but he won’t be

  60. lightninhopkins says:
    June 30, 2018 at 5:34 pm
    @navyvandal

    Uh, dude the Edelman thing wasn’t made up. Also, James Harrison beat his girlfriend and the Pats have no problem with that.
    ——————–
    Uh, dude the video of the Edelman thing sure says otherwise. As for Harrison, not sure why you think the Pats are at all culpable for having him on their team the last six games of his career.

  61. weepingjebus says:
    July 1, 2018 at 1:06 pm
    Spare us the high horses, Bill Clinton fans.
    _______________

    Keep beating that dead horse. What Bill Clinton did was wrong. Who is disputing that? Only a child believes that “he did it too” is a reasonable response.

    Maybe you should focus your attention on the current POTUS who calls twenty women liars and “too ugly” instead of apologizing as JW did.

  62. Being A Bucs fan I don’t support him because he’s not a GOOD NFL QB….PLAIN and simple. He doesn’t have the NFL smarts to read defenses and check down to the open wide receiver. Add the tremendous baggage he carries I really hope the Bucs phase him out of Tampa.

  63. Winning football games is what fans are concerned with. If he was taking them to the brink of the Super Bowl there wouldn’t even be a question. That’s the nature of fandom. His problem is he doesn’t win enough which makes his situation precarious.. He’s good enough to keep starting but not good enough to keep starting if he continues to be a problem. His behavior or his play better improve drastically or he will be looking for work elsewhere.

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