Danielle Hunter shows the value of drafting talent over production

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The Vikings took Danielle Hunter in the third round of the 2015 NFL draft, and when they signed him to a five-year, $72 million contract extension last week, they made clear that they’re very pleased with what Hunter has done in Minnesota. Which makes it a good time to look at the Vikings’ decision to draft Hunter.

At the time, Hunter was considered a talented prospect, but not an accomplished player. Media scouting reports said things like “He still needs someone to unlock all that talent” and “a raw prospect from LSU whose production doesn’t astound but whose athletic makeup does” and “He looks more like a model than a football player, but his natural athleticism can’t be denied.”

Hunter certainly wasn’t a bad player at LSU, but he had just 4.5 sacks in his college career, which is an awfully low total for a highly drafted defensive end. But the Vikings saw that natural athleticism in Hunter, and considered the fact that he was only 20 years old when he began his rookie year, which meant that he still had a lot of time to get better as a player.

And Hunter did get better. After 4.5 sacks at LSU, Hunter has 25.5 sacks in his three seasons in the NFL. The Vikings have developed a raw talent and made him a productive player. When you wonder why an NFL team is willing to spend a draft pick on a workout warrior who hasn’t shown he can put it all on the field, remember the way Danielle Hunter went from a college player who showed flashes of talent to an NFL player who learned to do it consistently.

94 responses to “Danielle Hunter shows the value of drafting talent over production

  1. Yes, it’s important to draft talent, and drafting talent over production in this case paid off.
    I’m sure every fan here can find cases where their team drafted talent over production and the result was a bust.

    Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn’t.

  2. The packers did the same thing with Hundley. Raw talent just needed someone to unlock all that potential . Unfortunately for Hundley McCarthy coaching abilities pale in comparison to Zims.

  3. I believe the key concept in this situation (which was not emphasized) is that the Vikings are using this method in the mid to later rounds, and NOT in rounds 1 and 2. Rounds 1 and 2 should be productive, talented players with room to improve. Keep up the good work RS!

  4. In college he was not an unleashed pass-rusher. He was often occupying blockers. He never got to show his pass rushing. That’s why his sack numbers were low.

  5. Sometimes the Viking mantra of wishing, hoping, and praying actually works. If not, their fans wouldn’t keep worshiping idols (Peterson, Moss,) or sticking pins in Packer dolls (daily troll behavior.) Without success on the field (futile since 1961,) they have very little else to work with, although they do have an oversized room full of same-color attaboy banners. That’s a sweet reminder of nothing. A good example of this routine is the victory over a better New Orleans team last year. By golly, all that last-minute crying and hand-wringing actually worked! Hope was sustained! Wishing goes on! And praying has increased 200% with the arrival of Cousins. All good stuff.

  6. Yes, and don’t forget about the steroids too.
    They’ve definitely played their part as well.
    Just hope the Barneys are able to find a helmet that still fits Gigantor’s head.

  7. LSU didn’t teach him or make him pass rush. In their scheme he played like another tackle. As a Viking you can come in and work hard, do your job and get rewarded. Hunter said it himself after he signed his new deal. “I can walk in here and not have to worry about distractions, just football”. That’s why players are resigning for team friendly deals and FAs are scrambling to play for them. Zimmer is no BS.

  8. neatpete1 says: “Do you mean like Belichick drafting Brady based on potential rather than results so far?”
    ==============================

    He was a 6th round pick – stop making it sound like he was all-knowing. Here are Belichick’s OTHER drafted quarterbacks:

    Rohan Davey (4th rd 2002), Kilff Kingsbury (6th rd 2003), Matt Cassel (7th rd 2005), Kevin O’Connell (3rd rd 2008), Zac Robinson (7th rd 2010), Ryan Mallett (3rd rd 2011), Jimmy Garoppolo (2nd rd 2014), Jacoby Brissett (3rd rd 2016).

  9. fritschtjesse says:
    July 1, 2018 at 9:06 am
    In college he was not an unleashed pass-rusher. He was often occupying blockers. He never got to show his pass rushing. That’s why his sack numbers were low.
    ___________________

    Is this anything like last year, when coaches asked him to play a containment role?
    At least, that’s what one Barney told me to help explain why his sack total was down last season compared to the year before.

  10. Sometimes the Viking mantra of wishing, hoping, and praying actually works. If not, their fans wouldn’t keep worshiping idols (Peterson, Moss,) or sticking pins in Packer dolls (daily troll behavior.) Without success on the field (futile since 1961,) they have very little else to work with, although they do have an oversized room full of same-color attaboy banners. That’s a sweet reminder of nothing. A good example of this routine is the victory over a better New Orleans team last year. By golly, all that last-minute crying and hand-wringing actually worked! Hope was sustained! Wishing goes on! And praying has increased 200% with the arrival of Cousins. All good stuff.
    ********
    Which is worse:
    A) The fan base you just described; OR
    B) A fan of an opposing team that takes every single opportunity to criticize that fanbase?

    If we Viking fans are so sad and pathetic why do you feel so compelled to constantly tell us? If you’re so superior, you shouldn’t feel the need to knock us down

  11. “Hunter certainly wasn’t a bad player at LSU, but he had just 4.5 sacks in his college career, which is an awfully low total for a highly drafted defensive end.”
    ==========================

    What?? Hunter was the 7th ranked prospect out of 148 DE’s in the 2015 draft class. He had 142 tackles in 38 games (23 starts) and 21 tackles for a loss.

    He did everything LSU asked him to do on defense, which was win the edge and contain the QB. Sacks in not the end-all stat, especially when he was the OLB on many snaps.

  12. There is always need to knock down unruly subordinates. Just ask the court of law! Lol especially if they are running around spewing fallacies….I NEVER get into these back and forth tennis matches but really. This year is the best shot you’ve vikings had in years and it’s still not a reality. Well maybe it was last year.

  13. wafflestomp says:
    July 1, 2018 at 9:39 am
    Yes, and don’t forget about the steroids too.
    They’ve definitely played their part as well.
    Just hope the Barneys are able to find a helmet that still fits Gigantor’s head.
    ————————————

    It’s always funny when there are steroid accusations coming from a fan of the team that employs Brian Cushings boyfriend.

  14. Andre Patterson is a world class coach of the D-line and deserves a lot of credit. Course, everything is world class with the Vikings since the Wilfs took over and hired Zimmer….

  15. Thus far, it appears the Vikings made a good move drafting Hunter and I see no reason for that to change. What’s great about this is that they did something well, they’ve been recognized for it right here in this article and the purples are still, and only, twitching and grunting about the Packers. Yikes.

  16. The Vikings/Packers constant trolling is never ending.

    To the southerners, you’re cold weather farmers who helped beat them in a war they can’t seem to get over.

    To the east and west coasters, you’re a place we fly over and appreciate the cheese and whatever one does in Minnesota. I like you guys!

    Familiarity breeds contempt. The rest of the US does not care. Keep trolling. It’s amusing at times but annoying most of the time.

  17. whatjusthapped says:
    July 1, 2018 at 9:04 am
    Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in awhile.
    ****
    Wow! That’s a good one! Never heard that before! I’m going to quote you on that and wow all my friends! You sure are original!

  18. Isnt it a crap shoot? I mean draft for needs and whatnot, but if you can drop someone on the bench and develop them because of a hunch, no different than drafting on talent. I see Danielle Hunter as the Michael Johnson of the Bengals when Zim was there. Tall, framed, non-prototypical, freak of an athlete where risk vs reward is boundless. This dude is only 23 and has years to go until he may peak. Hell, Everson Griffen was once a gunner on the punt team and pretty good at it too.

  19. It starts with the gm. Not a bike fan per session but spielman is the key here.
    He drafts bright people. He drafts fast people. And most important, he knows when he has gotten his use and trades away guys for more picks.Ted T just let guys he didn’t want to pay leave to save bucks.
    Not

  20. golforepar says:

    So the Vikings have over $150 million invested in Cousins and Hunter? smh
    ###

    And the Vikings still have more available cap space than your Packers. Let that sink in….

    Let’s see how your cap looks like after they assuage Rodgers ego with his new record breaking contract that Mark Murphy reported will be “happening soon”…

  21. I very much disagree with this and I am a huge Vikings fan. There are teams who can develop this type of player and there are teams that can’t. It all comes down to coaching. Zimmer and his staff have proven exceptional at taking athletic defensive players and developing them into good / great players.

    By contrast, Zimmer and his staff have a pretty poor track record with developing offensive line prospects. Part of this is the fact that Spielman doesn’t draft linemen high and the one he did draft high (I am looking at you Matt Kalil) was injury prone and after his success the first season seemed straight up entitled. But to say the Vikings don’t really develop offensive linemen isn’t much of a stretch.

    I think this is true of all teams. They all have strengths and weaknesses from a development standpoint and Hunter is a prime example of one that is right in Zimmer’s wheel house.

  22. Hmm……I find it quite interesting that the Barneys have already had two of their players busted and suspended for using PEDs.
    I sense a distinct pattern here.

  23. Funny that GB trolls in here think Hunter is on steroids or making fun of his name when they are talking up Clay Mathews and his girly hair.

  24. This contract is so dumb this is bad news for Pats fans when it comes to committing to Trey Flowers another underrated stud the entire league knows nothing about due to a combo of ignorance and jealousy, afraid to admit the Pats have good players.

    I expect them to be quietly working on a new deal but this will not help.

  25. aypeeswhippingstick says:
    July 1, 2018 at 11:36 am
    For all these shrewd moves you’d think there would be more than just air in the Viking trophy case.
    __________________

    Yes, but keep in mind it’s the air of the best run, World class organization, in all of sports. (Allegedly)

  26. poppybloodsugar says:
    July 1, 2018 at 10:34 am
    whatjusthapped says:
    July 1, 2018 at 9:04 am
    Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in awhile.
    ****
    Wow! That’s a good one! Never heard that before! I’m going to quote you on that and wow all my friends! You sure are original!

    /////////////////////

    Whathappened always brings great insight to a football converstion, sometimes he just “smears it on a cat and see if it licks it off, or throws it against the wall and see if it sticks or throws it down a well and see what kind of a splash it makes or let’s incubate that egg and see what hatches and on and on and on……………

  27. screamingyellowzonkers says:
    July 1, 2018 at 11:41 am
    Hmm…..
    I find it interesting that the Gumby’s complain about Vikings fans posting on packer stories, yet here are the Gumby’s posting on a Vikings story.
    ————————————-

    Says a constant troll when confronted with reaping what they’ve worked so hard to sow. I’m a fan of an AFC team so no dog in the fight but you purples are easily the least self aware of the inferiority complex driven fan bases. It was enjoyable watching you big hat no cattle types getting yourselves all worked up about winning the SB in your own house last season then getting your heads handed to you.

  28. Little known fact – Tom Petty was a huge Vikings fan.
    Some of his lyrics included:

    Even the losers, get lucky sometimes
    Runnin down a dream, that never would come to me.
    You got lucky
    Somewhere, somehow, somebody must have kicked you around some.
    Tell me why you wanna lay there, revel in your abandon.
    Stop draggin my heart around

  29. FlashPatterson says:
    July 1, 2018 at 11:20 am

    xlivsaints
    July 1, 2018, 8:35 AM CDT
    Good for HER and her name.

    ———————-
    Keenum to Diggs. Whiff 6. The walk off. Minneapolis Miracle.

    5 2 Rate This

    _________________

    Then following the Minneapolis Miracle. Those Vikings got the beating of their lives up in Philly and lost the chance at a home Super Bowl game. Ouch!

  30. flviking says:
    July 1, 2018 at 12:07 pm

    Whathappened always brings great insight to a football converstion, sometimes he just “smears it on a cat and see if it licks it off, or throws it against the wall and see if it sticks or throws it down a well and see what kind of a splash it makes or let’s incubate that egg and see what hatches and on and on and on……………
    —————————————-

    Get some help son, throwing shade at one of your own sock puppets is just beyond sad.

  31. Liberalsruineverything says:
    July 1, 2018 at 12:15 pm
    All the huffing and puffing from the cheesers that are waiting for the Vikings to run out of cash. Spielman and Brzenzinski say keep waiting and the Wilfs keep writing fat checks.
    —————————————————

    With money they swindled from…everybody

  32. I didn’t realize at one point Hunter led LSU in tackles. I also didn’t know his role in thier defense. There are a lot of intelligent posts mixed in with the tiresome packer trolls knocking every positive thing they hear. Can’t we filter that stuff out and just have football discussion? If the crap didn’t make it to the thread, people would stop posting it. It’s truly tiresome to sort through this crap just to read a little Vikings news. It isn’t this bad on the comments for any other team although the Patriots get a lot of hate.

    BTW interesting post “Kyle Baxter” intelligent perspective.

  33. commentawaitingdeletion says:
    July 1, 2018 at 12:13 pm
    screamingyellowzonkers says:
    July 1, 2018 at 11:41 am
    Hmm…..
    I find it interesting that the Gumby’s complain about Vikings fans posting on packer stories, yet here are the Gumby’s posting on a Vikings story.
    ————————————-

    Says a constant troll when confronted with reaping what they’ve worked so hard to sow. I’m a fan of an AFC team so no dog in the fight but you purples are easily the least self aware of the inferiority complex driven fan bases. It was enjoyable watching you big hat no cattle types getting yourselves all worked up about winning the SB in your own house last season then getting your heads handed to you.
    ____________________

    And Thank You.
    You’ve perfectly illustrated what so many Packer fans have been enduring and saying for years.
    Unfortunately, this lack of self awareness you speak of will have your insightful words falling on deaf and dumb ears.

  34. uncommon1 says:
    July 1, 2018 at 9:58 am

    If we Viking fans are so sad and pathetic why do you feel so compelled to constantly tell us? If you’re so superior, you shouldn’t feel the need to knock us down.
    ______________________________

    Your screen name is apt.
    Obviously, following Packer/Viking threads is an uncommon practice for you.

  35. commentawaitingdeletion says:
    July 1, 2018 at 12:20 pm
    flviking says:
    July 1, 2018 at 12:07 pm

    Whathappened always brings great insight to a football converstion, sometimes he just “smears it on a cat and see if it licks it off, or throws it against the wall and see if it sticks or throws it down a well and see what kind of a splash it makes or let’s incubate that egg and see what hatches and on and on and on……………
    —————————————-

    Get some help son, throwing shade at one of your own sock puppets is just beyond sad

    ///////////////////
    Okay son…….I’m a Viking fan and whatjusthappen is a packer troll. Maybe you can have one of your sock puppets explain how that is “throwing shade at one of my own” your post is truly beyond sad, but go ahead and run it up a flag pole and see if anyone salutes.

  36. commentawaitingdeletion says:
    July 1, 2018 at 12:13 pm
    screamingyellowzonkers says:
    July 1, 2018 at 11:41 am
    Hmm…..
    I find it interesting that the Gumby’s complain about Vikings fans posting on packer stories, yet here are the Gumby’s posting on a Vikings story.
    ————————————-

    Says a constant troll when confronted with reaping what they’ve worked so hard to sow. I’m a fan of an AFC team so no dog in the fight but you purples are easily the least self aware of the inferiority complex driven fan bases. It was enjoyable watching you big hat no cattle types getting yourselves all worked up about winning the SB in your own house last season then getting your heads handed to you.
    __________________

    Agreed! With one small caveat, Packer fans can be just as loud and obnoxious.
    The subtle difference being, they’ve got every reason to be.
    As much as I hate their team, their fans have every right to crow, because their team has been that good and have actually made significant accomplishments.
    Viking fans just talk and talk and talk and then when you think they’re finally finished, they’ll talk some more.
    Though their team has accomplished next to nothing.
    Actually, that’s an insult to nothing.
    It’s old and tiresome, and the only reason I check their comments anymore is to see the Packer fans rile their feathers.
    It’s always good for one or two laughs.

  37. Bluestree says:
    July 1, 2018 at 12:40 pm
    uncommon1 says:
    July 1, 2018 at 9:58 am

    If we Viking fans are so sad and pathetic why do you feel so compelled to constantly tell us? If you’re so superior, you shouldn’t feel the need to knock us down.
    ______________________________

    Your screen name is apt.
    Obviously, following Packer/Viking threads is an uncommon practice for you
    *********
    Ah, the “He started” defense. Good one. I’ll tell you what my Dad told me when I used that excuse “I don’t care who started it. You’re both acting like idiots and your mom and I never really loved you.”

  38. Yes, sometimes the talented player without much college production proves worthwhile. Sometimes the productive college player without freakish athleticism works out. It’s almost like it takes a marriage of player and system to determine which ones work and which ones don’t….

  39. Packers have lost control of the division, their one man show is getting old. Lions are decent, but unpredictable. Bears… might surprise. But 8 wins at most. Vikings are a real team. And will be hard for anyone to beat, especially at home.

  40. ezpkns34 says:
    July 1, 2018 at 1:47 pm
    Yes, sometimes the talented player without much college production proves worthwhile. Sometimes the productive college player without freakish athleticism works out. It’s almost like it takes a marriage of player and system to determine which ones work and which ones don’t….
    _________________

    Yes, but don’t forget about the healthy dose of steroids to make it all come together!
    skoLOL!!!

  41. It’s encouraging to see the success the Bines have had drafting and developing players the last couple years, particularly on defense. This is why the Vikes were a superior team to others like the Saints and Packers, both of which they beat twice last year.

    And the difference beteween Viking trolls and Pack trolls is simple – Vikes trolls are happy and delusional while Packer fans are arrogant and delusional.

  42. commentawaitingdeletion says:
    July 1, 2018 at 12:13 pm
    screamingyellowzonkers says:
    July 1, 2018 at 11:41 am
    Hmm…..
    I find it interesting that the Gumby’s complain about Vikings fans posting on packer stories, yet here are the Gumby’s posting on a Vikings story.
    ————————————-

    Says a constant troll when confronted with reaping what they’ve worked so hard to sow. I’m a fan of an AFC team so no dog in the fight but you purples are easily the least self aware of the inferiority complex driven fan bases. It was enjoyable watching you big hat no cattle types getting yourselves all worked up about winning the SB in your own house last season then getting your heads handed to you.
    —————-
    Get over yourself.
    Why is a fan of an “afc team” getting so worked up about the Vikings?

  43. This guy needs to show up in the playoffs, the last 6 quarters of the season the pass rush was non-existent. Foles had way too long, so did Brees.

    Meet at the quarterback and we’ll be just fine

  44. I’m not a Pack or Vike fan, and I used to find this constant back-and-forth tedious, but now I’m into it. You guys flat-out have an old-time old-school rivalry. Guys are jogging off the bench with fire in their eyes, looking to drop a zinger on the other squad. I look forward to these little chitchats. Carry on with the good work.

  45. backintheday99 says:
    July 1, 2018 at 10:29 am
    The Vikings/Packers constant trolling is never ending.
    To the southerners, you’re cold weather farmers who helped beat them in a war they can’t seem to get over.
    To the east and west coasters, you’re a place we fly over and appreciate the cheese and whatever one does in Minnesota. I like you guys!
    Familiarity breeds contempt. The rest of the US does not care. Keep trolling. It’s amusing at times but annoying most of the time.

    _________________________________________________________________

    Before I respond fully to your comment, do you care to say where you currently reside? I’d like to talk with you about education, Low crime, jobs, quality of life, fortune 500 companies, annually ranked in the top ten places to live, etc. Most peoples comeback to this is one word: Weather. If that matters more than the former then I call that a weak person. I can’t wait to discuss everything with you big shot!

  46. wafflestomp says:
    “Yes, and don’t forget about the steroids too…able to find a helmet that still fits Gigantor’s head.”

    Super weak comment, troll. Stop trying to turn the tables with the same material used to describe gb’s Fabio. We all know whose use of PEDs contributed to the development of a FatHead. It’s sad those “meds” could heal his thumb.

  47. There was a lot of good pass rushers that came out of that 2015 draft class. To me the best draft pass rushers to date out of that class are Hunter, Arizona DE Markus Golden and ATL DE Vic Beasley. Fowler is real solid, and so is Frank Clark has been above average. Shane Ray has been real solid. I really liked Bud Dupree and wanted Arizona to draft him and we would of had he not of came off the board right in front us, thank god we didnt as he hasnt been good. Didnt see that coming. That draft class was loaded with pass rushers, and these guys havent even peaked yet.

  48. wafflestomp says:
    July 1, 2018 at 9:39 am
    Yes, and don’t forget about the steroids too.
    They’ve definitely played their part as well.
    Just hope the Barneys are able to find a helmet that still fits Gigantor’s head

    ***

    Is there a day that goes by when you aren’t a complete Todd?

  49. GenXJ says:
    July 1, 2018 at 4:37 pm
    wafflestomp says:
    “Yes, and don’t forget about the steroids too…able to find a helmet that still fits Gigantor’s head.”

    Super weak comment, troll. Stop trying to turn the tables with the same material used to describe gb’s Fabio. We all know whose use of PEDs contributed to the development of a FatHead. It’s sad those “meds” could heal his thumb.
    __________________

    Well, since I’ve got the exact same amount of proof that Hunter’s been juicing as you Barneys have been spewing about Matthews the last 9 seasons, I feel you guys are in for an earful about now.
    So……enjoy!

  50. wafflestomp says:
    “I feel you guys are in for an earful about now.
    So……enjoy!”

    Yeah. I better get used to it; being that gb’s decade of downturn had begun. & your feeble attempts (as completely unoriginal as it seems) is all ya got.
    I’ll enjoy watching my team’s success. As they’re built to persevere.

  51. This is why teams place so much value on the draft combine. As they say, you can’t teach speed and raw athleticism. Coaches are very egotistical and feel they can develop a player, but he needs to have a certain level of athleticism. Production in college can be exaggerated by being in a great system, superior coaching, surrounded by great talent, quality of opponents, etc. Just look at the production in college by Tebow and Mark Sanchez compared to the NFL. Busts.

  52. GenXJ says:
    July 1, 2018 at 5:59 pm

    I’ll enjoy watching my team’s success.
    ____________________

    Well, it’s been 58 years in the making, so I imagine it would be enjoyable.
    I just sincerely hope they don’t drop the ball on ya.
    We’ll all be watching.

  53. As they’re built to persevere.
    ______________________________________________________________________________

    perseverance gets you an empty trophy case.

  54. screamingyellowzonkers says:
    July 1, 2018 at 3:02 pm

    Get over yourself.
    Why is a fan of an “afc team” getting so worked up about the Vikings?
    ________________________

    Because your fan base is so laughable! That’s why!

  55. The report, released Sunday morning, alleged that outside linebackers Julius Peppers and Mike Neal had obtained a steroid called Delta 2 and that inside linebacker Clay Matthews received unspecified medication to boost his hormone level. Matthews also allegedly was receiving painkillers through Charlie Sly, a former employee of the Guyer Institute, an Indianapolis-based anti-aging institute

  56. wafflestomp says:
    July 1, 2018 at 5:34 pm

    Well, since I’ve got the exact same amount of proof that Hunter’s been juicing as you Barneys have been spewing about Matthews the last 9 seasons, I feel you guys are in for an earful about now.
    So……enjoy!
    —————————————

    Well, if Hunter was a 190 lb walk on at USC and connected at the hip with a notorious roid freak his whole college career you may have a point.

  57. djvh2 says:
    July 1, 2018 at 12:15 pm
    Little known fact – Tom Petty was a huge Vikings fan.
    Some of his lyrics included:

    Even the losers, get lucky sometimes
    Runnin down a dream, that never would come to me.
    You got lucky
    Somewhere, somehow, somebody must have kicked you around some.
    Tell me why you wanna lay there, revel in your abandon.
    Stop draggin my heart around

    //////////////////////

    I bet you make mixed tapes for your boyfriends

  58. cheeseisfattening says:
    July 1, 2018 at 7:00 pm
    The report, released Sunday morning, alleged that outside linebackers Julius Peppers and Mike Neal had obtained a steroid called Delta 2 and that inside linebacker Clay Matthews received unspecified medication to boost his hormone level. Matthews also allegedly was receiving painkillers through Charlie Sly, a former employee of the Guyer Institute, an Indianapolis-based anti-aging institute
    _________________

    Nice try, but it never happened.
    Typical Barney post, throw enough garbage against the wall and hope enough of their brethren lap it up and regurgitate it as the truth. Their truth.
    Sad.

  59. Vikes79 says:
    July 1, 2018 at 4:32 pm
    backintheday99 says:
    July 1, 2018 at 10:29 am
    The Vikings/Packers constant trolling is never ending.
    To the southerners, you’re cold weather farmers who helped beat them in a war they can’t seem to get over.
    To the east and west coasters, you’re a place we fly over and appreciate the cheese and whatever one does in Minnesota. I like you guys!
    Familiarity breeds contempt. The rest of the US does not care. Keep trolling. It’s amusing at times but annoying most of the time.

    _________________________________________________________________

    Before I respond fully to your comment, do you care to say where you currently reside? I’d like to talk with you about education, Low crime, jobs, quality of life, fortune 500 companies, annually ranked in the top ten places to live, etc. Most peoples comeback to this is one word: Weather. If that matters more than the former then I call that a weak person. I can’t wait to discuss everything with you big shot!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Well, the question wasn’t to me, but I’ll answer it as a “weak person”. Born and raised in Minnesota, now live in Texas, and have for many years; and weather is the #1 reason, 5-6 months of gray skies, snow, and cold are no way for this guy to spend his life. A lot of my friends still there like to throw shade on me for that reason, when the reality is that I knew what I liked and didn’t like, and moved. The folks that didn’t have the guts to make the move, in my mind, are the weak ones.

  60. At least 4 sacks on AR this season. Just think he’s only 23 Cheesers! Let the good times Skol!

  61. ragnarthegreat says:
    July 1, 2018 at 12:28 pm

    I didn’t realize at one point Hunter led LSU in tackles. I also didn’t know his role in thier defense. There are a lot of intelligent posts mixed in with the tiresome packer trolls knocking every positive thing they hear. Can’t we filter that stuff out and just have football discussion?

    ++++++

    I requested the same thing a week or so before the draft, (and in May) … and it was soundly rejected.

    I’m not sure why day after day, for months on end, grown men would regurgitate the “everything ours great, everything yours sucks” when nothing much is happening. It’s like being frozen in a room of seventh-graders. Multiple offenders on all sides.

    so thank you Ragnar. I concur.

  62. stellarperformance says:
    July 1, 2018 at 9:24 am

    Sometimes the Viking mantra of wishing, hoping, and praying actually works. If not, their fans wouldn’t keep worshiping idols (Peterson, Moss,) or sticking pins in Packer dolls (daily troll behavior.) Without success on the field (futile since 1961,) they have very little else to work with, although they do have an oversized room full of same-color attaboy banners. That’s a sweet reminder of nothing. A good example of this routine is the victory over a better New Orleans team last year. By golly, all that last-minute crying and hand-wringing actually worked! Hope was sustained! Wishing goes on! And praying has increased 200% with the arrival of Cousins. All good stuff.
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    Isn’t this the guy who constantly complains about Viking fans going onto Packer stories and “picking fights”?

  63. I’m going to try much harder to stick with Packer threads only. I find myself criticizing a team (Vikings ) that I actually kind of like. I do it in response to incessant Packer-bashing and my replies are all-encompassing because I don’t have time to respond to each and every idiot troll.

    Sorry. I’ll work on it.

  64. Before you commented, two Packer trolls attacked the Vikings and only one comment from a Viking fan mentioned the Packers, and all he said was that McCarthy isn’t a good coach. You have made that point yourself many times in the past. There was no incessant Packer-bashing. The fact is, you do the same thing you decry in others and your comments are arguably more mean-spirited than most.

  65. Time and time again the Vikings find raw talent in later rounds, Hunter is just one example of the current administrations success. Stephon Diggs, Adam Thielen, Everson Griffen, Dalvin Cook just to name a few.

    It’s nice to have so much success in the draft, there were a lot of years where the Vikings couldn’t get anything right.

  66. Dalvin Cook was a second-round pick and Adam Thielen was undrafted, but I get your point. There are a lot of good players on the roster that weren’t high draft picks. Certain people like to say the Vikings built their talent on having years of high first-round picks, but Barr and Waynes are the only guys on the team that the Vikings drafted in the top 20 picks.

    Every draft hasn’t been great, though. The 2016 draft was horrible. Treadwell and Alexander haven’t done much yet and I’m not holding out hope for improvement. Willie Beavers got cut in training camp as a 4th-round pick. Kentrell Brothers is strictly a special teams guy and is suspended. MoBo was a joke of a pick. Their last three picks were the best as they got solid backup players in Morgan, Weatherly, and Kearse.

    That draft was sandwiched between the excellent 2015 draft and what looks like a really good 2017 draft. They probably had to throw one just so they wouldn’t have too many good players they have to pay.

  67. Gosh I would so love to have intelligent football conversation instead of having to endure the constant trolling on these threads. I honestly don’t even know where to go to find packers threads, so I have to assume you guys are literally receiving notifications every time a Vikings article pops up so you can come in and make sure you ruin any hope of decent talk. And honestly Vikings fans, I know this a forum for our team, but if we just ignored them, they’d stop, instead of going right back at em. What I really hate about it is that I would actually enjoy you packers fans joining in on a legit conversation about these articles and id more than welcome your honest opinions if it in any way wasn’t so nasty and mean spirited. A rivalry is an awesome and fun thing, but my god why can none of you show enough intelligence or class to join in these convos and maybe try to win a debate by actually having something legit to say about the subject at hand instead of insulting players or people for being fans of a team. Honestly I’m never sure why packers fans bring up our history and laugh at it, as you guys have had 2 hall of fame qbs in a row and only managed 2 super bowls out of what, 30 years of elite qb play? I’d be far more embarrassed of that waste of talent than I am to be a fan of a team still searching for our first. I also don’t really understand what any of that has to do with Danielle Hunter signing his extension or any discussion about him or his play. I also don’t really know why we would be talking about clay Matthews right now. It’s like no one has anything intelligent to say or any football knowledge to debate about what we are actually commenting on. Also to both sides, if you are seriously grading defensive ends on sacks, you need to talk to someone who really knows football to help you with understanding things. Sacks and interceptions are widely considered the most over rated stats among football knowledgeable people. Sure they are stats we all want players to have as they affect the game in a dramatic way. But they don’t win you games and they don’t accurately grade the quality of a player. They are considered glamour stats. It’s mostly about being in the right place at the right time when someone on the opposite team makes a mistake. It doesn’t accurately tell you the story of the quality of the player in question.

  68. Hunter fits Zims style of athlete. All coaches have they favorite body types for positions.
    He has done a nice job with the Vikings I hope Hunter improves this year.

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