Report: NFL seeking end to Colin Kaepernick collusion case via summary judgment

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The National Football League is attempting to bring Colin Kaepernick’s collusion case to an immediate conclusion, according to Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports.

The NFL is asking arbitrator Stephen Burbank to provide a summary judgment in the case as allowed via the Collective Bargaining Agreement for collusion disputes. It will be Burbank’s task to determine whether Kaepernick’s legal team has been sufficiently able to uncover enough evidence to allow the case to move forward. If he doesn’t believe that evidence exists, he can bring the proceedings to an immediate conclusion by ruling in favor of the league.

Per Robinson, the standard Burbank will have to decide upon comes down to whether there is “sufficient (evidence) to raise a genuine issue of material fact capable of satisfying” the claims made against the league.

Kaepernick’s team have interviewed over a dozen league figures, including Roger Goodell, Jerry Jones, Robert Kraft and multiple head coaches and general managers. They’ve also been able to collect emails, text messages and other digital assets related to the case.

Kaepernick’s claim alleges that the NFL has made a coordinated effort to keep him from the playing in the league over his protests during the national anthem to raise awareness for social injustice and police brutality.

104 responses to “Report: NFL seeking end to Colin Kaepernick collusion case via summary judgment

  1. Yes Kaep you’re right, they have all collectively concluded that your talent level does not out weigh your level of distraction to their organization if they sign you. They’ve all collectively concluded your talent level will not translate to a level success (ie wins) that would overcome the backlash by fans both financially and public relation wise.

    Here’s the dirty little secret Kap, just because they’ve all reached the same conclusions and have come to the reasoning you’re unsignable, does not equal collusion. No owner/GM had to call another owner/GM to reach the same conclusion the others had reached. Cost risk analysis pretty much takes care of it for them once they realize you’re a below average QB, who was trending downward at the time you walked away from your contract option, compared to the level of distraction through the media circus and PR backlash your signing would carry. They have also likely concluded that these deciding factors will not be changing anytime soon, as you have demonstrated that you’ll continue to do things like wear cops are pigs socks, wear a pro Castro shirts etc etc.. So the PR and financial issues will continue through the entirety of your contract.

    You’ve created this mess yourself, no one had to collude for it to occur.

  2. Surprisingly quite a few people in our society and in the NFL, confused by the meaning the word freedom! They don’t also seem to have trouble trying to grasp the Constitutional concept of the term “Liberty, Freedom and the Pursuit of Happiness”! If I’m trying to be honest with myself and my friends, and hopefully some of the posters on PFT, I think Colin Kaepernick has been victimized by the NFL for political purposes and it makes me wonder these last few years what kind of people, are at the heart of this league? Whether you agree with Kaepernick’s reasons or not, he has the freedom, to express himself the way he felt was right, just as those others will tell you he should put his hand over his heart and pretend feelings that may or may or not be what he truly feels in his heart. It stood for his beliefs and in today’s political climate of Authoritarianism, that takes guts. Any excuse in a storm is good enough for the haters of freedom of expression but Freedom means freedom! Kaepernick is a man who deserves justice!!!

  3. Looks like the NFL is STILL making a coordinated effort to keep Kaep from playing in the league. The NFL is obviously concerned about this case, so they’re trying to do whatever they can to bring it to an end. I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I always wonder whenever any big outfit tries to put an end to an investigation or a case involving collusion. If there was no collusion, what does the NFL have to worry about and why is the league trying to shut the case down? Wouldn’t the NFL want to have their name fully exonerated in court if the league is totally innocent? It’s the same thing with the republicans: if Trump and the GOP didn’t collude with Russia, then why are the republicans trying to shut down Mueller’s investigation? Shouldn’t the GOP want their party to be totally exonerated and for all the facts to come out? Don’t you wonder about that?

  4. You mean the cabal of 32 are at it again? – colluding to defeat Kaep! I know he went 3-16 in his last 19 starts, lost his starter’s role to Blaine Gabbert before bigging up his protests, pig socks and donations to cop-killers – and then deserted his team and juicy contract – BUT how would anyone have even found out about all that if it wasn’t for teams colluding info? One last question, does he stand for the judge and flag when the court rises or kneel and fist pump while denigrating judges and making efforts to support judge-killers? Keep up the fight Kaep, lawyers need folks like you.

  5. Seeking an end to an investigation? Ask Zeke how that goes, the league investigated him for 2 years. As much as I do not respect Kaepernick, I hope he sues the pants off the league. I am about ready for some AAF and XFL!

  6. Stephen Burbank should end this witch hunt.

    All you need to do is look at some of Kaepernick’s most recent game tapes to understand why he is unemployed.

  7. It should be over and ruled in favor of the NFL. Kaepernick needs to understand that they don’t have to give him a job. It’s no different than any other employer. Move on in life.

  8. Exhibit A – Collin Kaepernick (anthem protester, mediocre talent, no NFL job)
    Exhibit B – Michael Bennett (anthem protester, significant talent, currently employed in NFL)
    Exhibit C – Kenny Vacarro, Erik Reid, other NFL starting caliber safeties (protesters and non protesters, none currently have NFL jobs)
    Conclusion – there is a no collusion against anthem protesters. Guys that can play valuable positions can still get jobs, regardless of anthem positions. Case dismissed.

  9. And produced exactly exactly zero evidence anyone consipire with anyone to keep CK out of the NFL.

    This being the NFL, CK may have uncovered a lot of evidence that owners tried to get him a job with other teams so that he could be a cancer in the opposing teams locker room.

    That is what I did as a government employee. Gave the problem employees whom I could never fire satisfactory performance ratings and sent them to other managers.

  10. Maybe the lawyers are getting a little too close to home with the investigation. Turning things over they weren’t supposed to find?

  11. Donald Trump thanks Kap, his lawyer, and the NFL’s bungling for the unintentional support

  12. Still waiting on that supposed bombshell from kaepernick’s lawyers.
    Which will never come.
    Give it up kaepernick.

  13. Kap is the absolute worst QB who has ever played in the NFL, bar none. Ergo, no collusion if no team would even give him a job anymore. Case closed. LOL

  14. I really hope Burbank concludes there isn’t enough evidence and the fans can finally stop seeing new Kaepernick articles every day they check PFT. Then no more “crucial evidence incoming” nonsense. It will be a sad day for Mike Florio and that blond clown. Their clickbait articles will be cut in half and all that will remain are Trump “stories”.

  15. I would think that the ‘coordinated’ part would be tough to prove, especially with this league. It is reasonable to assume that each team arrived at the decision that they don’t want him on their own, seeing as how it affects their bottom line.

  16. I knew Florio couldn’t have posted this, it would’ve contained a large dose of opinion on the “evil NFL” intermixed with claims from Geragos and his latest smoking gun.

  17. Good. It’s time this mediocre backup QB goes away forever. The NFL rightly doesn’t want someone who thinks it’s acceptable to make “political” statements on the job, on your employer’s time (not yours). This is football. If football isn’t your one and only focus, goodbye. You’re paid to play the game, not try to be some ridiculous social justice warrior. Especially when the very thing you’re protesting is literally a non-issue.

  18. “They’ve also been able to collect emails, text messages and other digital assets related to the case.” So Roger didn’t “recycle” his phone to obstruct the investigation like some QB in NE. But Roger is always the bad guy to many here on the site.

  19. “Surprisingly quite a few people in our society and in the NFL, confused by the meaning the word freedom! They don’t also seem to have trouble trying to grasp the Constitutional concept of the term “Liberty, Freedom and the Pursuit of Happiness!”
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    I think you’re the one having trouble trying to grasp the Constitution. The First Amendment only offers freedom from the government imprisoning you for your expression of views. And even then, not all free speech is protected. These protections do NOT extend to private enterprise, the marketplace or your place of work. Kaepernick is not going to jail for expressing his views. That’s the protection the First Amendment offers. He is NOT free from the consequences of his actions/words if a fan decides not to support him anymore or a prospective team deciding NOT to sign him.

  20. BobbyHanks63 says:
    July 3, 2018 at 5:15 am
    Surprisingly quite a few people in our society and in the NFL, confused by the meaning the word freedom! They don’t also seem to have trouble trying to grasp the Constitutional concept of the term “Liberty, Freedom and the Pursuit of Happiness”! If I’m trying to be honest with myself and my friends, and hopefully some of the posters on PFT, I think Colin Kaepernick has been victimized by the NFL for political purposes and it makes me wonder these last few years what kind of people, are at the heart of this league? Whether you agree with Kaepernick’s reasons or not, he has the freedom, to express himself the way he felt was right, just as those others will tell you he should put his hand over his heart and pretend feelings that may or may or not be what he truly feels in his heart. It stood for his beliefs and in today’s political climate of Authoritarianism, that takes guts. Any excuse in a storm is good enough for the haters of freedom of expression but Freedom means freedom! Kaepernick is a man who deserves justice!!!

    ————————
    You are talking about Kaeps rights but those were never in question. This case is about whether the owners have their own rights and freedoms.

  21. I love the people who keep saying “Kap and the other players have the right to kneel”. I haven’t hear one person say that they don’t have that right. But me as a fan have every right to not watch games, not go to games and quit spending money on anything NFL and the

  22. BobbyHanks63 funny how you preach freedom. If thats truly what you believe in, then why compel an owner to hire someone they dont want? Shouldn’t they have the freedom to hire those who make them the most money without a sideshow?

    I wont argue that Kaep had guts to take a knee, I would argue though that he lacks smarts. He got the spotlight and now all we talk about is whether or not there was collusion….not why he took a knee. He blew it.

  23. woodstakes says:
    July 3, 2018 at 4:29 am

    Yes Kaep you’re right, they have all collectively concluded that your talent level does not out weigh your level of distraction to their organization if they sign you. They’ve all collectively concluded your talent level will not translate to a level success (ie wins) that would overcome the backlash by fans both financially and public relation wise.

    Here’s the dirty little secret Kap, just because they’ve all reached the same conclusions and have come to the reasoning you’re unsignable, does not equal collusion. No owner/GM had to call another owner/GM to reach the same conclusion the others had reached. Cost risk analysis pretty much takes care of it for them once they realize you’re a below average QB, who was trending downward at the time you walked away from your contract option, compared to the level of distraction through the media circus and PR backlash your signing would carry. They have also likely concluded that these deciding factors will not be changing anytime soon, as you have demonstrated that you’ll continue to do things like wear cops are pigs socks, wear a pro Castro shirts etc etc.. So the PR and financial issues will continue through the entirety of your contract.

    You’ve created this mess yourself, no one had to collude for it to occur.

    —————————————–

    First and foremost, let me say I respect your opinion, and have to agree that the pig socks and Castro shirts weren’t going to help his image with a lot of NFL fans.

    Where I disagree with you is on the talent level. Kaepernick has been to a Super Bowl, and had a couple good seasons, though he definitely regressed after defenses figured out how to game plan for him. I’m not saying he’s a starter, but I find it hard to believe that he’s not better than at least half the back ups in the league.

  24. It’s interesting how blind some get when they want so badly for their narrative to prevail. Meaning, Kaepernick supporters don’t want to look at the facts:
    1) He succeeded for two seasons over 5 years ago running a gimmick offense (read option) that’s no longer run by any NFL team. As a prototypical drop back passer, he got exposed and was ineffective. He got benched for Blaine Gabbert for Petes sakes!
    2) He’s never thrown for even 3400 yards, has a 59% career completion pct and a QBR of sub-90. He’s not that good!
    3) So you think a team should sign him as a backup. Ok…let’s look at that. Has Kaep ever said he’s willing to take backup money? Have you seen a quote saying he’ll take veteran’s minimum to carry a clipboard? I haven’t either.

    He was a two year wonder that defensive coordinators quickly figured out 5 seasons ago….and since Harbaugh took his read option offense to Ann Arbor, Kaepernick has been a losing QB with bad stats. If he was talented enough, he’d be on an NFL team. Just like dozens of other anthem protesters. Which brings me to my next point:
    4) There are dozens of players who protested the anthem currently on rosters. Why? Because they have the talent requisite of a roster spot. If it’s about keeping anthem protesters out of the league….why are dozens currently on rosters? Face it…Kaepernick isn’t signed because he’s not good enough. End of story.

  25. He will go down in history as one of the most ignorant people in the world. Congrats Kaep!! You’ve made your mark.

  26. Colin Kaepernick has been victimized by himself snd those with a political agenda. He has done nothing to show that he wants to be a part of the NFL for anything more than notoriety. If was stickily about football he should follow Johnny Manziel’s lead and play in the CFL

  27. There absolutely was collusion. 32 owners got together and decided he wasn’t NFL caliber. So did pretty much everyone who is not possessed of the “support any POC in every case” syndrome.

  28. “I’m not saying he’s a starter, but I find it hard to believe that he’s not better than at least half the back ups in the league.”
    ————————————————————————————
    You’re assuming he’ll accept a backup role and backup money. Maybe even veteran’s minimum. Have you heard him say he’d accept that? Is he training right now for that chance in some team’s camp? Last I saw he was still demanding over 10M a season.
    It’s such a lazy argument to say he’s better than some percentage of backups.
    That may be true….but two things:
    1) Will Kaep accept a backup role and for what money?
    2) Does a team want a backup that brings distraction and overshadows the starter?
    3) Does a team want a backup who ONLY succeeded in an offense they don’t even utilize?

    I think we just answered why he isn’t signed.

  29. Talk about a win win scenario. Either the NFL or Kapernick lose…I’ll take it !

  30. The bottom line is Kaep has never shown remorse for the idiotic things he did that alienated him from the fan base. He wore pig socks and when he was called out for it his excuse was he had worn them before and no one noticed. He never apologized and said “I’m sorry, that was a dumb idea”.
    Second, he wore a Castro T-shirt and the Miami community was up in arms and he had the audacity to site a good deed or two that Castro did during his decades of dictatorship. He never cited the atrocities that occurred on his watch. This was a colossal mistake.
    It’s this arrogance and ignorance that has fans pissed off. Couple this with the his perceived lack of patriotism and this guy’s fate has been sealed.
    He made his bed. I’m a niner fan and I used to watch him and root for him but his decisions over the past few years has pissed me off too.

  31. I have no use for Kaepernick, but the trope of that he wasn’t good enough to play is silly. He got hurt, underwent surgery and rehab, then underwent the “Chip Kelley Experience” which killed a lot of players in San Fran and Philly. When getting back the starting job, he performed well on a really bad team. he played beter than at least 10 other QB’s.

    There are enough reasons to not like him, but perpetuating career falsehoods is unfair to anyone.

    Still don’t like him though.

  32. I personally don’t care if there was collusion. Is it a crime for owners of the league to say to each other, “this guy’s bad for business and isn’t that good anyways”? If I were an owner, unless he was the second coming of Joe Montana, no way would I want him as an employee. And even then, I don’t think I’d put up with him bringing his politics and protests to my work place.

  33. Serious question to CK supporters.

    Do you think Kaepernick even wants to play?
    Or does he want the fight and the notoriety?

    ‘Cuz I don’t see him training or staying in shape. I don’t see him saying he’ll accept a backup role or backup money. I don’t see him exploring playing in the CFL like Manziel to prove he still has it.

    Bottom-line, nothing about his words or actions shows he truly desires to play. The appearance of wanting a roster spot is the platform for his fight. That’s where his passion lies.

  34. Wait, I don’t want the Kap story to go away! If it does, it’ll be replaced with, “the hotdog vendor on main street doesn’t like the name Redskins and it must be changed despite 93% of Native Americans stating they don’t care about the name” bs! They’ll find another SJW slant to write about…..they love thinking for others.

  35. “I have no use for Kaepernick, but the trope of that he wasn’t good enough to play is silly. He got hurt, underwent surgery and rehab, then underwent the “Chip Kelley Experience” which killed a lot of players in San Fran and Philly. When getting back the starting job, he performed well on a really bad team. he played beter than at least 10 other QB’s.”
    ———————————————————————————–
    He performed well after getting the starter job back?
    In his last season as a starter he was 1-10 and had a completion pct of 59%.
    Were there 10 other QBs with Zero wins during that time??

    Hmmm….I think your argument just got exposed.

  36. Hey you leftists.
    Kaepernicks last two years of playing, was a statistical nightmare.
    7 wins and 25 losses.
    Only you losers would want this bum.
    Go away.
    In the meantime, ignore this cretin

  37. footballtruthteller says:
    July 3, 2018 at 7:49 am
    Exhibit A – Collin Kaepernick (anthem protester, mediocre talent, no NFL job)
    Exhibit B – Michael Bennett (anthem protester, significant talent, currently employed in NFL)
    Exhibit C – Kenny Vacarro, Erik Reid, other NFL starting caliber safeties (protesters and non protesters, none currently have NFL jobs)
    Conclusion – there is a no collusion against anthem protesters. Guys that can play valuable positions can still get jobs, regardless of anthem positions. Case dismissed.
    —————
    QB isn’t a valuable position? Kaep may not be Tom Brady, but he’s as good as probably 5-10 starters in the league & better than most backups. He should have a job.

  38. damadhatterb says:
    July 3, 2018 at 8:39 am
    I really hope Burbank concludes there isn’t enough evidence and the fans can finally stop seeing new Kaepernick articles every day they check PFT.

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    What would be really great is if we could stop seeing articles about police killing unarmed black citizens. Can we just git back to footbaw!

  39. exnavysub says:
    July 3, 2018 at 10:13 am
    I personally don’t care if there was collusion. Is it a crime for owners of the league to say to each other, “this guy’s bad for business and isn’t that good anyways”? If I were an owner, unless he was the second coming of Joe Montana, no way would I want him as an employee. And even then, I don’t think I’d put up with him bringing his politics and protests to my work place.

    ————————————————-

    Actually, yes collusion is a crime. But if you’re supporting the current level of right wing-ism in this country you’ve made your stance on crime very clear, only the prez & his cronies can commit crimes & get away with them. And also NFL owners.

  40. “QB isn’t a valuable position? Kaep may not be Tom Brady, but he’s as good as probably 5-10 starters in the league & better than most backups. He should have a job.”
    ———————————————————————————–
    How so? Can you provide some proof and/or stats other than “should” comments?
    ‘Cuz I can show why teams aren’t interested in him. I can show he’s NOT as good as the current starters in the league.
    Let’s hear it.

  41. “Any excuse in a storm is good enough for the haters of freedom of expression but Freedom means freedom! Kaepernick is a man who deserves justice!!!”
    The owners have the same right of freedom and expression as Kap does and they exercised it by using the freedom of evaluating his current talent and expressing that evaluation by not hiring him for the millions involved for a mediocre quarterback.no collusion,just professional evaluation by people who judge nfl players and whether a player is still good enough to play in the nfl.in Kaps case he just isnt good enough anymore and he proved it in his last season of playing.

  42. “Kap is the absolute worst QB who has ever played in the NFL”

    I get you don’t like the guy, but compared to the likes of Ryan Leaf, Jamarcus Russell and numerous other QBs who were far, far worse than Kap your statement is ridiculous.

  43. BobbyHanks63 says:
    July 3, 2018 at 5:15 am
    Surprisingly quite a few people in our society and in the NFL, confused by the meaning the word freedom! They don’t also seem to have trouble trying to grasp the Constitutional concept of the term “Liberty, Freedom and the Pursuit of Happiness”!

    —————

    Those concepts pertain to our Government and its relationship with its People. Surprisingly people like you do not understand that those rights do not extend to the workplace.

    Kaep made his decision…..not the teams have made theirs. Where exactly is the problem?

  44. savethebs says:
    July 3, 2018 at 10:44 am
    damadhatterb says:
    July 3, 2018 at 8:39 am
    I really hope Burbank concludes there isn’t enough evidence and the fans can finally stop seeing new Kaepernick articles every day they check PFT.

    ——————–

    What would be really great is if we could stop seeing articles about police killing unarmed black citizens. Can we just git back to footbaw!

    I’d point out that more unarmed white men are killed by police every year. More unarmed blacks are killed by blacks than are killed by police every year.

    What would be really great if we could lose the narratives that are manipulated to make an invalid point.

  45. 345snarkavenue says:
    July 3, 2018 at 10:45 am
    I have an idea, let’s give Kaep, Goodell and Trump all the boot.

    ———-

    Here is a better idea. Why don’t you and the rest of the Lefties either leave or hunker down for 6 1/2 more years.

  46. 345snarkavenue says:
    July 3, 2018 at 10:45 am
    I have an idea, let’s give Kaep, Goodell and Trump all the boot.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    One of these names don’t belong with the other two. It’s President of the United States of America Donald Trump just so we are clear.

  47. chefninerapologist says:
    July 3, 2018 at 10:08 am
    The bottom line is Kaep has never shown remorse for the idiotic things he did that alienated him from the fan base. He wore pig socks and when he was called out for it his excuse was he had worn them before and no one noticed. He never apologized and said “I’m sorry, that was a dumb idea”.
    Second, he wore a Castro T-shirt and the Miami community was up in arms and he had the audacity to site a good deed or two that Castro did during his decades of dictatorship. He never cited the atrocities that occurred on his watch. This was a colossal mistake.
    It’s this arrogance and ignorance that has fans pissed off. Couple this with the his perceived lack of patriotism and this guy’s fate has been sealed.
    He made his bed. I’m a niner fan and I used to watch him and root for him but his decisions over the past few years has pissed me off too.

    ———————-
    Kaepernick owes no remorse for those things. Every bit of that was his right and freedom.

    The problem is those that think he is entitled to have everyone agree with him and\or he is owed a reward. Actually those folks thinking that do have their own freedom to reward him themselves, but they should not be asking that someone else be compelled to do it against their will.

  48. When you consider that Brett Hundley was stinking up the Packers for 11 games and they didn’t even sniff at Kaep, you have to conclude that the Packers coaching staff didn’t think he could play. Had nothing to do with collusion, it had everything to do with his lack of talent. That’s just one team out of 32 but there are at least 20 teams not even looking at the QB position.

  49. One of these names don’t belong with the other two. It’s President of the United States of America Donald Trump just so we are clear.

    ——

    You incorrectly assume I don’t know his position.

  50. Here is a better idea. Why don’t you and the rest of the Lefties either leave or hunker down for 6 1/2 more years.

    ——–

    First, I’m not a lefty, I am an undeclared voter here in NH. I voted Republican in the primary, but not for Trump. It was beyond my belief that with over 18 primary candidates, the general election main-party candidates were Donald and Hilary.

    Second, Yeah I’m sure you follow that advice in 2009.

  51. I wonder….if a team like the Bucs offered Kaep a contract right now, would he take it?

    Serious question. Does he truly want to play or is the appearance of wanting a spot serve as a platform for his fight?

  52. It’s perfectly understandable why the NFL would like to draw this case to a quick close. The whole thing is a time-consuming distraction and costing a ton of money. Had Kaepernick just played out his contract, did not cause any additional controversy and had a good season, none of this would ever have happened.

  53. I wonder….if a team like the Bucs offered Kaep a contract right now, would he take it?

    Serious question. Does he truly want to play or is the appearance of wanting a spot serve as a platform for his fight?

    ——

    there’s going to be a LOT of people that falsely claim they know the answer, but only Kaep does.

  54. 345snarkavenue says:
    July 3, 2018 at 11:30 am
    Here is a better idea. Why don’t you and the rest of the Lefties either leave or hunker down for 6 1/2 more years.

    ——–

    First, I’m not a lefty, I am an undeclared voter here in NH. I voted Republican in the primary, but not for Trump. It was beyond my belief that with over 18 primary candidates, the general election main-party candidates were Donald and Hilary.

    Second, Yeah I’m sure you follow that advice in 2009.

    ———

    Well I did not vote for Trump or Hillary either. I am a Libertarian and voted as such. But given the two, I can say I do prefer Trump to Hillary. Honestly I believe Trump is a buffoon and spends most if his time trolling the Left. I do like how he has brought them to expose themselves. Even Obama and Bill Clinton would be too Conservative for today’s Lefties.

  55. It would not surprise me if the case is dismissed. If he hasn’t uncovered enough evidence then he likely never will. It’s been nothing but a fishing expedition. The big news by his attorney is how much money he has bilked from those two clowns.

  56. All these arm-chair judges in here are clearly misunderstanding the reality of this situation: The players are represented by a union that has collectively bargained a contract on their behalf. The verbiage of that contract is binding. It doesn’t take 32 owners for collusion to exist, it only takes 2. That Kaep opted out of the final year of his contract (the new regime has stated publicly that they would have cut him, regardless) or his stats in the final year he played were better than 16 other QB’s in the league is insignificant. What is significant is the rule of law – we are a country founded on these rules. Clearly, the NFL wants this to go away. Probably because they have poured over the evidence and realized that there is some collusion. They can push for a summary judgement to make it go away or, most likely, use it for a bargaining chip to negotiate a dollar amount to make it go away.

  57. The NFL is playing it right. After the “Discovery” phase of a lawsuit, it could be determined that one party will flat out not win and not want to spend a lot of money on a trial they know they have no chance of winning. Basically, it is CK give me something to keep this case going or that’s it. it’s over. The lawyer promised “compelling evidence”. Where is it. There isn’t any more than likely. And as the judge says, “Case Dismissed”. The lawyer is the only one getting cash out of this.

  58. Here is a better idea. Why don’t you and the rest of the Lefties either leave or hunker down for 6 1/2 more years.
    ————-

    Yeah that’s it. You don’t like our fascist government go back to Africa! That’s what you really meant right?

  59. I still think this case is more about trying to get the NFL to open their books to help prepare the NFLPA for the upcoming CBA process.

  60. @savethebs,

    You are the reason the President uses Twitter to talk to people. You make up your own narrative and pass it as news. Nobody mention Africa, but you slid it in their and made your point from it. You are Fake News!

  61. savethebs says:
    July 3, 2018 at 12:05 pm

    Here is a better idea. Why don’t you and the rest of the Lefties either leave or hunker down for 6 1/2 more years.
    ————-

    Yeah that’s it. You don’t like our fascist government go back to Africa! That’s what you really meant right?

    —————-

    You have one of the most appropriate names on here. Please, save the bs.

  62. tinye67 says:
    July 3, 2018 at 10:34 am

    “I have no use for Kaepernick, but the trope of that he wasn’t good enough to play is silly. He got hurt, underwent surgery and rehab, then underwent the “Chip Kelley Experience” which killed a lot of players in San Fran and Philly. When getting back the starting job, he performed well on a really bad team. he played beter than at least 10 other QB’s.”
    ———————————————————————————–
    He performed well after getting the starter job back?
    In his last season as a starter he was 1-10 and had a completion pct of 59%.
    Were there 10 other QBs with Zero wins during that time??

    Hmmm….I think your argument just got exposed.
    ————————————–

    The only thing that got exposed is your lack of football knowledge. Zero wins wasn’t the point, he played well on a really bad team that was gutted under Chip Kelly. How many wins did his replacement have?

    How many wins did Matt Cassel have with Dallas when Romo got hurt? How did Brett Hundly do? I guess Clevelands starters of the last 2 years with a what, 1-32 record were better right? How many wins did ELI get last year?

    John Elway wanted to trade for him to be the STARTER of the Denver Broncos. The only reason he didn’t become a Bronco was because Colins’ agent gave him really bad advice on not restructuring his contract for Denver.

    Again- let the ignorant automatic thumbs down begin.

    You can not like Kaepernick- AS I DO, and HE DID CAUSE his own problems, but still not use the weak trope he can’t play (well, probably can’t play at this point though). It’s called resonable and rational thinking.

  63. “The only thing that got exposed is your lack of football knowledge. Zero wins wasn’t the point, he played well on a really bad team that was gutted under Chip Kelly. How many wins did his replacement have?”
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    Oh, I think wins have a lot to do with it. Afterall, winning is the point, correct?! You want to lay it all at the feet of Chip Kelly…fine. No doubt he wasn’t a good fit for the NFL. But let’s not pretend Kaepernick was playing at anything but a losing level. He’s never been an accurate passer. He’s never had great touch on the ball. He’s never been able to read defenses and find the open receiver. He was successful for two seasons in a read option offense that is no longer utilized in the NFL. Once DCs figured him out he won only 3 games in his final two seasons. Now, I’m no NFL GM or analyst….but I think that’s bad.

  64. Even Obama and Bill Clinton would be too Conservative for today’s Lefties.

    ——

    Kind of in the same way Reagan and the Bushes (not sure how that would be spelled) would be too liberal for today’s Conservatives.

    I am a moderate that tends to lean conservative on fiscal issues (meaning how money is spent) and tend to lean liberal on social issues. What 20 years ago would have been a moderate republican. Maybe today’s RINO, although I choose to no longer be part of that party, so I guess I don’t even qualify for that.

  65. savethebs says:
    July 3, 2018 at 12:05 pm
    Here is a better idea. Why don’t you and the rest of the Lefties either leave or hunker down for 6 1/2 more years.
    ————-

    Yeah that’s it. You don’t like our fascist government go back to Africa! That’s what you really meant right?

    Perhaps you should go there and live under the rule of Robert Mugabe for a year. After you’re done kissing the ground on your return here you’ll understand fascism and racism like you never did before.

    I swear, some of you guys are like the union members who’ve been told that you only have to work on Wednesdays for a full weeks pay and you’re complaining that you have to work EVERY Wednesday. You don’t deserve this country.

  66. tinye67 says:
    July 3, 2018 at 10:00 am

    “I’m not saying he’s a starter, but I find it hard to believe that he’s not better than at least half the back ups in the league.”

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    You’re assuming he’ll accept a backup role and backup money. Maybe even veteran’s minimum. Have you heard him say he’d accept that? Is he training right now for that chance in some team’s camp? Last I saw he was still demanding over 10M a season.
    It’s such a lazy argument to say he’s better than some percentage of backups.
    That may be true….but two things:
    1) Will Kaep accept a backup role and for what money?
    2) Does a team want a backup that brings distraction and overshadows the starter?
    3) Does a team want a backup who ONLY succeeded in an offense they don’t even utilize?

    I think we just answered why he isn’t signed.

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    While I haven’t heard Kaepernick say he would accept a back up role and back up pay, I also haven’t heard him say he wouldn’t accept such things.

    I think you hit the nail on the head with Point 2 above. At this point, what team is gonna be willing to bring that kind of circus to town for a back up QB? Very valid question.

  67. savethebs says:

    July 3, 2018 at 12:05 pm

    Here is a better idea. Why don’t you and the rest of the Lefties either leave or hunker down for 6 1/2 more years.
    ————-

    Yeah that’s it. You don’t like our fascist government go back to Africa! That’s what you really meant right?
    ————————————————-

    Bless your heart, you’re trying so hard! (and using username number 11).

  68. nflpoker says:
    July 3, 2018 at 12:02 pm
    The NFL is playing it right. After the “Discovery” phase of a lawsuit, it could be determined that one party will flat out not win and not want to spend a lot of money on a trial they know they have no chance of winning. Basically, it is CK give me something to keep this case going or that’s it. it’s over. The lawyer promised “compelling evidence”. Where is it. There isn’t any more than likely. And as the judge says, “Case Dismissed”. The lawyer is the only one getting cash out of this.

    ——————
    The lawyer is going to argue that the reason there is no case yet is because he is not done with his discovery. The lawyer needs discovery to drag on because its a gold mine of billable busy work to him. The NFL is going to argue (and this is my opinion too) that if all of those despositions and info collected has not yet produced any tangible result then its not going to and that continuing to compel the NFL to invest their own time and money (their lawyers cost money too) is not fair.

    If Gregaros surprised us (speaking for myself I would be extremely surprised) and showed that he did have even a partial case that he could show was backed by evidence he had collected and was still working to solidify it then I would have to admit he should be allowed to continue.

  69. Hey, Kaepernick, remember when you wanted to be traded and the Broncos were interested but said you had to take a 50% pay-cut to back-up level compensation? That should have clued you in right then what the NFL thought of you.

  70. savethebs says:
    July 3, 2018 at 12:05 pm
    Here is a better idea. Why don’t you and the rest of the Lefties either leave or hunker down for 6 1/2 more years.
    ————-

    Yeah that’s it. You don’t like our fascist government go back to Africa! That’s what you really meant right?

    ————

    No…..Canada, Mexico, Barbados…..anywhere will do.

    And you should really look up the term “fascist”…..educate yourself

  71. “I have no use for Kaepernick, but the trope of that he wasn’t good enough to play is silly.”

    He lost his job to Blaine Gabbert in 2015 when the 49ers tried to make him a pocket passer.

    “He got hurt, underwent surgery and rehab, then underwent the “Chip Kelley Experience” which killed a lot of players in San Fran and Philly. When getting back the starting job, he performed well on a really bad team. he played beter than at least 10 other QB’s.””

    Kelly’s system is perfect for no-talent QBs since it minimizes risk and forces defenses into bland, vanilla coverages due to the hurry-up aspects. Because of that Mark Sanchez had a career year (88.4 QBR) and Nick Foles had a 119.2 QB rating!!!

    All Kaepernick did was rush to the line then throw it short on some crossing route. And he couldn’t even do that well and, at 59%, was nearly 8% points off the expected completion rate you should get with that kind of offense (high 60s)

  72. tinye67 says:
    July 3, 2018 at 12:29 pm

    Oh, I think wins have a lot to do with it. Afterall, winning is the point, correct?! You want to lay it all at the feet of Chip Kelly…fine. No doubt he wasn’t a good fit for the NFL. But let’s not pretend Kaepernick was playing at anything but a losing level. He’s never been an accurate passer. He’s never had great touch on the ball. He’s never been able to read defenses and find the open receiver. He was successful for two seasons in a read option offense that is no longer utilized in the NFL. Once DCs figured him out he won only 3 games in his final two seasons. Now, I’m no NFL GM or analyst….but I think that’s bad.
    ——————————————————-

    moseszd says:
    July 3, 2018 at 1:35 pm

    “I have no use for Kaepernick, but the trope of that he wasn’t good enough to play is silly.”

    He lost his job to Blaine Gabbert in 2015 when the 49ers tried to make him a pocket passer.

    “He got hurt, underwent surgery and rehab, then underwent the “Chip Kelley Experience” which killed a lot of players in San Fran and Philly. When getting back the starting job, he performed well on a really bad team. he played beter than at least 10 other QB’s.””

    Kelly’s system is perfect for no-talent QBs since it minimizes risk and forces defenses into bland, vanilla coverages due to the hurry-up aspects. Because of that Mark Sanchez had a career year (88.4 QBR) and Nick Foles had a 119.2 QB rating!!!

    All Kaepernick did was rush to the line then throw it short on some crossing route. And he couldn’t even do that well and, at 59%, was nearly 8% points off the expected completion rate you should get with that kind of offense (high 60s)
    ———————————-
    ———————–
    ———–

    Not sure why people can’t separate the player from the annoying activist here.

    If kelly’s system is so good for “no Talent” quarterbacks- why isn’t he still coaching, or someone copying him? The league is currently flush with no talent QB’s.

    He lost his job to Blaine Gabbert- how is Gabbert doing these days- hmm.
    yeah, okay- he lost his job when the “49’s tried to make him a pocket passer”- that’s bad coaching- how do you think Cam Newton would do in a strictly “pocket passer offense”- how do you think Tom Brady would do under Carolina offense.
    losing your job because you don’t fit a coach or system is different than not being able to play.

    Oh yeah- what exactly is Cam Newtons completion percentage? Kaep has had deeper playoff runs and came closer to winning a superbowl than Newton ever has.

    Hmm- Cam Newton- 58.5%- Karpernick- 59.8% OOPS

    “He’s never been able to read defenses and find the open receiver”- did you watch any of his games after he got the starting job back? Because he was definitely reading defenses, and finding an open receiver- admittedly He’s not Brady or Manning- but who is.

    How is Blake Bortles at reading defenses? How is Jared Goff at reading D’s- better than Kaep- okay, but his COACH is the one reading them, and relaying what to do presnap.

    Read option is still used by some teams who have it as part of a package, and Philly did pretty well last year with RPO no?

    Winning 3 games- okay- how about his coach who believed in him, and setup a team to his style of play is dismissed because the GM didn’t like him. How about the 49’s putting in place a coach who was completely lost and unqualified to be a head Coach, then replacing that coach with Chip Kelley- a guy who can’t coach in the NFL, puts his “ideas” ahead of the teams actual talents (he did it in Philly too)and proved to be a “Bust: as an NFL coach. How about the fact that he got Hurt?
    How did the 49’s fair when he was cut, but before Jimmy G?

    And please, someone tell me why Elway wanted to sign him?

    Again- I don’t think kaep should play, because of both his lawsuit, and the verbal statements he’s made, nor do i think there was collusion, just don’t tell me he wasn’t good enough to play.

  73. Krapernick is pure garbage. Has been since defenses figured out how to stop the read option. Krapernick has the worst accuracy and timing I’ve ever seen. Everything pass is underthrown or overthrown. Every pass is a laser beam with no touch. He can’t read defenses. He locks on one reciever then takes off running. He misses wide open recievers running free. He’s a wildcat rb pretending to be a qb. As a niners fan I’ve seen every game krapernick has played and he’s gotten noticeable worser every year since 2014. He hasn’t played a good game in over 3 years. Any team trying to get better should stay away from him unless your goal is to get worse and lose every game to get a high draft pick.

  74. “Again- I don’t think kaep should play, because of both his lawsuit, and the verbal statements he’s made, nor do i think there was collusion, just don’t tell me he wasn’t good enough to play.”
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    I don’t think he’s good enough to play. I honestly dont. Has nothing to do with his activism. If he could lead my team to the Super Bowl I’d happily take him. But I also don’t think his heart is in playing.

    He’s not lobbying for backup jobs. He’s not on record saying he’ll take backup money. He’s not playing in the CFL to show he can still play. He wants to protest. And that’s fine. But I honestly don’t think he has a burning desire to play the game which is another reason teams aren’t interested.

    Finally…mandatory maybe we can agree on this point. For whatever talent he does havem…for how good he is today…..it’s not worth the distraction factor he brings with him. The talent simply isn’t good enough to deal with the circus. The fan base unrest, the locker room division, a backup overshadowing the starter. …it just isn’t worth it.

    That’s why he’s not signed. There’s dozens of players who protested on rosters. He’s not because his talent doesn’t outweigh the distraction factor.

  75. Reaching a common conclusion on a player is not collusion. You’d have to be dead, stupid, blind, and have an empty skull to conclude Krappernick is a bad idea for a team. There are always teams which don’t care to win and who will put anybody on their team (like the Baltimore Murdering Black Birds and the Great Gimmick being exhumed another season).

  76. #1
    There was NO order or understanding for players to stand during the playing of the National Anthem
    NOTHING mandating such EVER

    What they have now has just been put into place & it’s not concrete

    LAUGHABLE

    #2
    Google the origin of the National Anthem at NFL games & see its tradition & never made an official call to arms

    Granted most view this as morals & ethics & confuse it as an induction if sorts mandatory before any official game etc
    It’s never been a law dictating people to stand nor forbidden to sit or kneel, etc

    #3
    The owners DO have rights to hire who they will
    But they DONT have the rights to conspire & influence another team/owner to follow suit

    Example :

    HYPOTHETICALLY

    If everyone who’s against Kaepernick actions would take a stand to honor or dishonor their child’s right that they choose to exercise

    All of your respective bosses don’t have the right to impede your means if employment outside of them personally
    Even if the stance you take reflects poorly in them

    #4
    You commentors who say Kaepernick is unemployed due to known poor QB play have now caused countless millions TI google currently employed NFL QB stats
    And guess what?
    15 currently working NFL QB’s rank beneath Colin Kaepernick’s stats

    Be careful what you express
    Others view the exact same info you do but they view it more objectively & unbiased at that

    Personal feelings & opinions should only be due to facts alone or they’re simply prejudiced, unfounded, & even slanderous in some cases
    &
    All to enforce & even elevate your stance

    Politics will further invade your privacy, freedoms, liberty’s, etc

    What you agree to now can & will be used against you eventually
    & by the very people & groups whom you now support

    Consider yourself warned

    An Honorably Discharged Disabled American US Air Force Veteran who served for you & Kaepernick ,,,,,,even those who hated me while I was willing to die to support their rights to hate me

    That’s what we serve/served/sacrifice/sacrificed for

    A policeman/woman will die in the line of duty for people who hate them

    Do we honestly know & embrace true patrioticism at its core?

  77. tinye67 says:
    July 3, 2018 at 7:47 am
    But…wait….a “Major Development” is coming any day now. Right?!
    _______________
    Yup.
    Just like Mueller……
    ……BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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