Aaron Rodgers’ avoidance of interceptions is incredible

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Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers has avoided interceptions like no other quarterback in NFL history.

Rodgers has just 78 interceptions in his NFL career, and his rate of throwing an interception on 1.6 percent of his passes is the lowest for any quarterback in NFL history.

To put it into perspective: Rodgers’ career-high in interceptions is 13, which he threw in his first season as the Packers’ starter. If Rodgers plays until he’s 50 and throws 14 interceptions every single year, he’ll still have fewer career interceptions than Brett Favre.

Rodgers is 10th in NFL history in passing touchdowns, but he’s tied for 159th in NFL history in interceptions. The quarterback directly in front of Rodgers on the career touchdown list, Ben Roethlisberger, has 96 more interceptions than Rodgers. The quarterback directly behind Rodgers on the career touchdown list, John Elway, has 148 more interceptions than Rodgers.

With Rodgers looking for a new contract this offseason, it is easy to see why he thinks he deserves to be the highest-paid quarterback in NFL history.

201 responses to “Aaron Rodgers’ avoidance of interceptions is incredible

  1. Tom Brady is almost universally referred to as the GOAT. But for years, I have read that Aaron Rodgers is the best QB in the game and maybe the best ever to play his position.
    If Rodgers were to add two more titles, is Rodgers the GOAT?

  2. what’s even more incredible is the utter and complete avoidance of any semblance of objectivity by the NFL when it comes to officiating his games;

    that is not to say Rodgers is not one of the handful of best quarterbacks ever to play the game;

    what it does say is the application of the ‘Jordan Rules’ by the NFL the moment he is in the tunnel for home games or steps off the bus for away games only tarnishes any consideration of him as perhaps the best QB ever;

    perhaps the most blatantly unconscionable example was the Michigan Mulligan against the Lions, a play that never, ever should’ve occurred under any circumstances;

    if there were only one or two examples of, shall we say, ‘egregious generosity’, over the course of his career, they could be argumentative, but with Rodgers it happens just simply too much, to the point where it tarnish the game and drives fans away who try to hold their noses from smelling a WWE-sized rat;

    yet here again he merely recovers from injury on a decidedly mediocre team (why else the front office shakeup this off-season with threats of more to come, after one bad year?) and all of a sudden the Packers—with no offensive line, no dominant runner or receiver, no secondary and no pass rush—are suddenly playoff and Super Bowl contenders?

    really?

    players who embrace the ‘sportin’ life’ are always to be found in any league;

    rules and then advances in equipment technology will combine to lessen chronic injury to endurable levels over time just as always;

    misguided politicians and a narrow-minded fringe will always attempt inject some obtuse ideology from time to time;

    but the self-inflicted wound of apparent skewing toward the favour of Rodgers and select other players and/or teams (like the commissioner destroying evidence of the blatant malfeasance of a certain northeast team, allegedly) will destroy this game with a certainty that eclipses even jingoistic flag-waving, chronic concussions and organised gambling;

  3. Too bad he usually chokes in the big games (QB rating of 50 in conference championship games). He’s easily the most overrated QB of all time. The guy just doesn’t win multiple super bowls. He’s pathetic and a douche. #discountdoublechoke

  4. .
    NFL fans may want to clear their schedule on the evening of November 4th. The Sunday night game is Green Bay @ New England. It will most likely be the last time Brady and Rogers share the same field.
    .

  5. Great accuracy with great velocity allows this. He also take sacks instead of getting rid of the ball, which
    In many cases is no different than a pick.

  6. TB12 matches the percentage and has been doing it a lot longer.
    G Att Comp Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck SckY Rate
    TOTAL 253 8,805 5,629 63.9 34.8 66,159 7.5 261.5 488 5.5 160 1.8 99 809 148 452 2,797 97.6

  7. That’s all Tyrod Taylor does, not throw interceptions.
    I wonder why he isn’t in this conversation?
    Good luck Brown fans.

  8. His rookie season he was asked about the top priority a QB should be thinking: His answer: “Protect the ball.”

  9. Elway and Favre played in different eras when you could mug a quarterback during their prime years.

    Aaron is a great QB but is somewhat injury prone. Can you imagine how many games he would miss if he played 20 years ago rather than now when you get a penalty for coughing in the general direction of the QB?

  10. Pay him Green Bay. Although they shouldn’t. Make him play out his contract and field a competitive team. Rodgers will never sit out a season, his ego is too big and that will hurt his career stats and legacy. Green Bay fleeced him with the length of that contract and now they should just sit back and enjoy it.

  11. Amazing! He hasn’t thrown a pick in almost 7 months!
    Of course, he threw 3 that day against the Panthers. It was on December 17, 2017. It was his most recent performance. He did throw 6 in a 7 game season last year. Amazing!

  12. NFL QBs only average 1 every 40 attempts as it is. It’s the joke of the “no defense allowed” era they play in.

    Any modern QB playing in the pre Mel Blount rule era would throw at least twice as many INTs.

  13. I loathe the Packers, but I grudgingly admit that Rodgers is the best QB I’ve ever seen. I’ve been watching the NFL since 1956, and I’ve seen every good/great QB who’s played the game over those years, from Unitas to Starr to Staubach to Tarkenton to Bradshaw to Montana to Young to Elway to Manning to Brees. (I don’t count Brady. He’s a cheater and doesn’t deserve to be on the list.) However, I’ve never seen any QB who can do the things that Rodgers does. The guy is a magician, and the Packers would be lucky to win even one game without him. Watch Rodgers play the game whenever you can, people, because he is true greatness as a football player. Put him on a good team with a good coach and he’d go undefeated every year. He’s that good.

  14. Love the jealousy in the comments. Rodgers has a better percentage of getting to and winning the Super Bowl when his defense is in the top 10 than Brady does. The only difference between Brady and Rodgers is that Brady has spent his entire career playing with a top 10 defense. Rodgers has only had it once, and he took it all the way that season.

  15. Brady is only 1.8% – and in 2017 was only 1.4 – while Rodgers was 2.5. And in career TDs, while Rodgers is on 313, Brady’s already 3rd all-time (488), on target to pass Favre’s 508 in wk 10, and Peyton’s 539 the same time next year for 1st. And if you add in Brady’s 71 postseason TDs to Peyton’s 40, Brady will overhaul Peyton wk 10 this year. Meanwhile, Rodgers will never catch them and never fully recover from that clavicle.

    Rodgers is a fantastic passer yes, but he can’t lead or carry a banged-up team missing half it’s key guys and a non-existent defense to a Super Bowl. And nor can he come from behind – Brady has 34 (same as Unitas and 9 behind leader Peyton), while Aaron has just 11. Brady has all those comebacks for a virtually identical INT rate – & 15 Div titles, 12 AFCCG & 8 SB appearances.

  16. @6ball

    The toughest team on the patriots schedule and they play a night game in Foxboro. Go figure. And patriot fans want to know how the NFL favors their schedule year in and year out. Not to mention rarely ever playing a team coming off a bye week.

  17. What about the avoidance of being made of glass, good QB but hasnt finished a full season 4 out of the past 5 years! Buyer beware!

    His avoidance of the playoffs is also notable.
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    Where do these people come up with this stuff? Just stupid.

  18. v2787
    Jul 7, 2018, 9:05 AM EDT
    I loathe the Packers, but I grudgingly admit that Rodgers is the best QB I’ve ever seen. I’ve been watching the NFL since 1956, and I’ve seen every good/great QB who’s played the game over those years, from Unitas to Starr to Staubach to Tarkenton to Bradshaw to Montana to Young to Elway to Manning to Brees. (I don’t count Brady. He’s a cheater and doesn’t deserve to be on the list.) However, I’ve never seen any QB who can do the things that Rodgers does. The guy is a magician, and the Packers would be lucky to win even one game without him. Watch Rodgers play the game whenever you can, people, because he is true greatness as a football player. Put him on a good team with a good coach and he’d go undefeated every year. He’s that good.

    If Brady is such a cheater how do you explain the fact that since Deflategate he’s taken the Patriots to 3 more Super Bowls, won 2 of them and was named MVP in both of their wins. Common sense should tell you that if you’re a cheater and you get caught that you should not be as good as you were prior to cheating. And he’s the league MVP as well. If his success is due to the fact that he was cheating how do you explain that he’s actually been better since Deflategate? But then again I wouldn’t expect someone as stupid as you are to understand what I’m talking about so I’m sure you won’t answer that question

  19. BuffaloSportsTown says:
    July 7, 2018 at 8:05 am

    That’s all Tyrod Taylor does, not throw interceptions.
    I wonder why he isn’t in this conversation?
    Good luck Brown fans.

    ——

    That was good enough to get you to the playoffs last year, wasn’t it? Now you have an unproven FBS guy along with a guy who couldn’t beat out Andy Dalton. Good luck with that.

  20. v2787 – I’m curious what you think of Jerry Rice. He came out a few years ago and admitted that he ILLEGALLY used stickum when he was playing. Do you think he shouldn’t be on the list of greatest WRs to ever play the game?

  21. Rodgers, for the last 5-6 seasons, has been better than Brady has ever been. He just doesn’t have Belichek or the roster around him that Brady has had. It’s beyond idiotic that in the ultimate team game we judge a single position player by championships that are won by TEAMS.

  22. Teams win titles, not players. Rodgers is the GOAT because he’s won a SB despite Mike McCarthy. Belichick has a lot to do with # of titles Brady has.

  23. Michael Vick was light years ahead of Brady in terms of pure talent yet he did absolutely nothing with his career while Brady has put together the greatest career an NFL quarterback has ever had. There’s a difference between being the best and being the most talented. Rodgers by far has more talent than Brady but there’s no question as to whose had the better career. Is it really too difficult for people to comprehend this

  24. onthewarpath28
    Jul 7, 2018, 9:31 AM EDT
    Teams win titles, not players. Rodgers is the GOAT because he’s won a SB despite Mike McCarthy. Belichick has a lot to do with # of titles Brady has.

    Didn’t you just say that teams win Super Bowls and the next thing you talk about is how Rodgers is the best because “he” won a Super Bowl. The irony is too incredible. And do you really think the greatest player in NFL history is going to be the guy that helped his team win 1 Super Bowl! That’s hilarious. Next you’re going to tell me that Doug Williams is the greatest QB in the history of the game. What about Brees?

  25. Doesn’t he have a an 0-35 record vs teams with a winning record by trailing by 1 point or more in the 4th?
    There’s no debating he’s a talented dude and (one) of the best playing right now, but he’s no where near the best right now and you could make an argument about where he ranks within the the 10-20 all time QB list.

  26. his entire career has been in an NFL where receivers and quarterbacks are protected from any mild form of contact. it’s a league designed for quarterbacks. the quarterbacks before him did not have such luxury.

    You cannot possibly compare him to any QB that played before these ridiculous rules were set in place. it’s a different game. and he finally gets hit last year on a routine play, and he gets hurt. and then he whines about it along with his entire team, the entire season by calling it a dirty play. that was a routine play. QBs in the 90s got hit like that almost every time they dropped back, heck, worse than that.

  27. .
    @vaphinfan

    ” The toughest team on the patriots schedule and they play a night game in Foxboro. Go figure. And patriot fans want to know how the NFL favors their schedule year in and year out. Not to mention rarely ever playing a team coming off a bye week.”
    -_________-

    You’re barking up the wrong tree on schedule fixing. Schedules are made years in advance. The Dolphins 2022 opponents are already decided and listed online. As far as the game order goes, there’s very little room for hanky panky. There are numerous variables like venue conflicts, time zones, bye weeks and most importantly the networks to consider. I can say with relative certainty that NBC specifically requested GB @ NE be played on a Sunday night during the November sweeps week.

    PS – Two years ago if you drew the Rams, Jaguars and Eagles to open the season, you be jumping for joy. Now, not so much.
    .

  28. AS A MINNESOTA VIKING 4LIFE-UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE TO ADMIT AARON ROGERS IS THAT GGOD (GREAT). I REMEMBER WATCHING HIM DURNING THE DRAFT (I’M A HUGE COLLEGE FOOTBALL FAN AS WELL) I SAID TO MYSELF WHEREVER HE LANDS-EVERYONE ELSE WILL PAY!

  29. steaksandwichandsteaksandwich says:
    July 7, 2018 at 7:31 am
    Tom Brady is almost universally referred to as the GOAT. But for years, I have read that Aaron Rodgers is the best QB in the game and maybe the best ever to play his position.
    If Rodgers were to add two more titles, is Rodgers the GOAT?

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    Championships should have zero bearing when considering how great someone is. Look at Dan Marino. He played in only one Super Bowl and his team lost. Should that take away from how great he was? Not in my book. He is an all time great QB in my book.
    I am an Aaron Rodgers fan because I am a Packers fan. The only way to judge Aaron Rodgers is against his peers. He did not play in an era where the pass was considered something you do when you can’t run the ball 40 times a game. All the rules are slanted toward the QB and WR’s today. Had Johnny Unitas played in this modern era, there is no question in my mind his statistics would be equal to anyone’s and better than most. He was as good or better than Brady, Rodgers, Brees, or anyone else you can name.
    So — in my opinion — there is no such thing as the GOAT. There is only “greatest player of his era”. When you look at what Rodgers has done, he doesn’t take a back seat to anyone who has played during his era. But it still boils down to personal choice. Some would take Brady, some would take Rodgers, and some would take Brees as the best of this era.
    But does it really matter? They are all great QB’s no matter where anyone ranks them.
    Another example is Jerry Rice. He is almost universally called the greatest WR of all time. Yet look at what he did during his era and then look at what Don Hutson did in his era and tell me Jerry Rice dominated his era more than Hutson dominated his. There is absolutely no way Rice was more dominant than Don Hutson. So — there’s no way Rice should be called the GOAT, in my opinion.

  30. Excellent qb and a good guy. Always liked rogers. Probably 3rd best in game behind only brady and brees. Rogers accurate and takes care of the ball but no one has ever had brady’s guts to carey a team in the biggest moments, that’s why Brady has been to 8 bowls and rogers one. No shame beung in second tier behind the GOAT.

  31. boyso3 says:
    July 7, 2018 at 9:35 am
    Michael Vick was light years ahead of Brady in terms of pure talent yet he did absolutely nothing with his career while Brady has put together the greatest career an NFL quarterback has ever had. There’s a difference between being the best and being the most talented. Rodgers by far has more talent than Brady but there’s no question as to whose had the better career. Is it really too difficult for people to comprehend this

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    Wrong. Look at what Bart Starr of the Packers and Otto Graham of the Browns did and then tell me what Brady has done is any better than what they did. Graham took the Browns to the championship game in two different leagues every year from 1946 to 1955 and won 7 of them!!!!! (Graham and the Browns played in the old All-America Football Conference prior to joining the NFL in 1950). And Bart Starr won 5 championships in 7 years and narrowly missed out on winning another one — the only loss he suffered in a championship game.
    I am not taking anything at all away from Tom Brady — but please — before you praise him, at least know the facts. I get really annoyed at people who dismiss what NFL players did before the Super Bowl era. They dismiss them for all kinds of reasons, which is totally unfair. It would be like dismissing all the things Babe Ruth and his Yankees did because they didn’t play in this modern era.

  32. If super bowls don’t matter, then Joe Montana shouldn’t be in the conversation because his stats are average. Rodgers = P Manning = Marino. None of them were great playoff QBs but phenomenal in the regular season.

  33. It helps that Rodgers had three years of development without playing, helping him avoid the most interception-prone period in a typical QB’s carer. It also helps that he has played his entire career in the wide-open-passing-game NFL, which has a significantly lower INT% than previously.

    For example, over Rodgers’s career, Tom Brady has been even better than Rodgers with a 1.4 INT%. The only reason Brady’s career INT% (still nearly as good at 1.8) is worse is because it was higher (2.4) during that tougher-to-pass period before 2007. In other words, part of the reason Rodgers’s numbers are “the best ever” is because passing in general is better than ever thanks to the rules (note: not saying he isn’t one of the best ever, but he isn’t The Best At Avoiding Interceptions once you factor in league interception rates each season).

  34. The Viking trolls never disappoint but the single fact remains, Rodgers avoidance of interceptions (the central focus of the article) is almost equal to the Viking’s avoidance of winning a Superbowl (the Vikings have the edge, they remain perfect in losing, 0-4)

    The irony that seems to be lost on the Vikings is that they had not one but two chances to draft Rodgers and passed. There has to be reasons that the Vikings can go 56 years without winning a Superbowl and this is just one of many.

  35. I’m not about to get into the pointless pissing match about who the better QB is between Brady and Rodgers.
    They are both phenomenal QBs and I’m completely satisfied with the one calling signals in Green Bay.

    But I do take issue with the insinuations that Rodgers is hurt all the time, or that he’s made of glass.
    Statements like this are clearly misinformed or just plain dumb.

    Prior to last year, Rodgers had started all 16 games the three previous seasons.
    In fact, since becoming the starter for the Packers, Rodgers has played in at least 15 games in 8 out of 10 seasons.
    The two seasons where he’s missed multiple games were obviously because of the two broken collarbone injuries he’s suffered.

  36. Aaron Rodgers is under contract through 2019, when he’ll be 36. He can be tagged twice, and ill be 38. He’s a fantastic QB, but he also gets hurt. How will he do when he’s getting hit at age 36-38? IF you pay a QB > 35MM and he’s hurt some games and the rest of the team is just so-so you miss the playoffs. At some point you have to factor in availability.

    How much would it cost to extend Rodgers 2-4 more years? 30MM/year? I guess I’d do that since the franchise tag rate will increase in 2 years.

  37. The fact of the matter is Rodgers is the best QB. Better than Brady, better than Manning, better than Brees. The ONLY qb who can really compare to Rodgers is Marino.

  38. I’m just happy he’s on my team. I hope that Pettine can get the defense to be serviceable this year, and that our OC can our offense back to being top 2 in the league. If those two things happen, the Packers would be considered the NFC favorites for sure, if not the favorites to win the whole thing.

    Good luck to all teams this year. I just wish it was football season already.

  39. Rodgers is a great QB, but, a convincing argument can be made that one of the prime reasons his intercept rate is so low is that he puts ‘protecting the ball’ ahead of taking even reasonable chances when trying to make a comeback. As a couple of earlier posts allude to, Rodgers has one of the worst comeback rates of major QBs in the fourth quarter of any ‘Great QB’. Contrast his comebacks with gun-slinger Brett Favre and you see the difference – especially, when it’s a good team he’s trying to mount a comeback against (one of Rodgers’ few comeback wins was against the 0-16 Lions).

    If your team is ahead in the waning minutes, Rodgers could be the GOAT, but, if you need that last-minute win, you are much better taking Brady…or Favre.

  40. That’s because every time he throws an Interception, it gets called back by a phantom penalty on the defense. GB is a protected franchise in the nfl, and Rodgers is a protected QB on a protected team. Anyone outside of GB fans sees it on a game by game basis.

  41. He is certainly the most talented quarterback since Dan Marino. I believe if he leads his team to another Super Bowl, he should be in the top 4 which ranks him in the Mount Rushmore of NFL quarterbacks (Brady, Peyton, Montana, Elway). I don’t use rings to rank overall greatness but it is a tiebreaker if the stats are similar and the dominance over the player’s contemporaries in his era.

    My only concern is that as exciting as his performance at the position, he rarely throws to his first read and almost always making plays based on second reaction. It is as if he deliberately decided to play the game this way. Greg Cosell called his playing style like a jazz improviser that he takes chances and has the talent to pull off amazing feats. But the downside is that the lack of play design and relying heavily on athletic ability is really living dangerously. He’s super smart and skillful and I just wish he can dial back on the improvisation and use more design plays so he can potentially extend his career longer and take his team to the promise land once again. I believe once his career is done, he will be in the Mount Rushmore discussion… and with a little luck, perhaps, GOAT. He is that good.

  42. Have any of the great QBs relied more on a gimmick offense. Biased referees, pre snap penalties/free plays, illegal pick plays and phantom pass interference. Bears, Lions, and Viking fan know what I’m talking about. Erin isn’t even top 20 ever.

  43. “Doesn’t he have a an 0-35 record vs teams with a winning record by trailing by 1 point or more in the 4th?”

    No, he doesn’t. I’m sure Dallas fans could tell you that.

  44. Who cares about fewest INTs. To be considered the best QB, overall, you must have the best passing record(s), and that distinction belongs to m’boy DaBreeze (Drew Brees): the best “artisan” (craftmaking) quarterback in the history of the NFL. Read it and weep, Rodgers fans lol

  45. farewellfaircruelty says:July 7, 2018 at 10:51 am
    “The fact of the matter is Rodgers is the best QB. Better than Brady, better than Manning, better than Brees. The ONLY qb who can really compare to Rodgers is Marino.”

    =======================

    The fact that you mentions Marino, you’re defining “better” in, I assume, athletic ability. And I would agree with you. But if you define “better” in wins, leadership, and orchestration, I would pick a few others.

    Unless he modifies his playing style, he’s living dangerously in terms of career longevity and be coined as a one hit wonder. He has enough time to rectify that and his team’s defense also bears some responsibility. I look forward to the new season!

  46. seahawkz4life says:
    July 7, 2018 at 7:36 am
    Check down 😂, naw he’s good as heck
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    Rodgers is tied for 5th all time in the NFL for yards per pass attempt at 7.9.

    It’s sort of hard to maintain that high a number in y/a if a QB is checking down constantly like your post implied.

  47. ARod(in his collarbone) says:
    July 7, 2018 at 11:16 am
    That’s because every time he throws an Interception, it gets called back by a phantom penalty on the defense. GB is a protected franchise in the nfl, and Rodgers is a protected QB on a protected team. Anyone outside of GB fans sees it on a game by game basis.
    ___________________

    Yes Folks, it’s just another chapter in the Barney’s never ending paranoid conspiracy theory, The NFL Hates the Vikings and Loves the Packers.

    Yes, it’s this particular, though quite strange reasoning that has kept the Purple Chokers down for 57 straight years and counting, while elevating the NFL’s favorite handicapped franchise, Green Bay, for some bizarre unknown reason.
    Don’t believe it, just ask them.

    Let’s delve a little deeper into this, shall we.
    Hmmm…..It can’t be market share, Green Bay has always been the NFL’s smallest television market since…..forever. (makes no sense)
    It certainly can’t be a rich influential owner, as Green Bay is publicly owned by the people. (absolutely no incentive there)
    Maybe, the NFL Gods just prefer the color Green.
    Or, as we always eventually get around to it, the NFL simply hates the Minnesota Vikings.
    So much, in fact, that it does everything in their infinite power to tilt the scales against the Vikings at every turn, keeping the franchise from taking it’s rightful place among the NFL’s elite.
    Hey, that must be it.

    You think it sounds far fetched, just follow the posts of these rubes during an ordinary NFL season, especially if their team struggles.
    You’ll be genuinely surprised at some of the weirdness they post.

    Yes, we’ve been subjected to these paranoid delusions for years.
    It would be quite comical, if the Barneys weren’t so certain they’re true.

  48. tokyosandblaster says:
    July 7, 2018 at 11:10 am
    I’m just happy he’s on my team. I hope that Pettine can get the defense to be serviceable this year, and that our OC can our offense back to being top 2 in the league. If those two things happen, the Packers would be considered the NFC favorites for sure, if not the favorites to win the whole thing.

    Good luck to all teams this year. I just wish it was football season already

    ////////////////////

    Packer fan has always been saying “get rid of Capers and we will win the Super a Bowl” well you have your wish. Rodgers is healthy and brand new defense. Anything short of the Super Bowl will be considered a colossal failure, packer fan knows that.

    Good luck with all that.

  49. Rogers is the only active QB, really the only one ever, that was even better than Brady in protecting the football and winning.

  50. We must enjoy having Aaron in Green Bay.
    He is a diamond in the rough.
    Arron shines while all around him is dark.
    We know he’s all we’ve got and our only hope.

  51. For as good as Rodgers is, he still throws more interceptions than the Vikings have Super Bowl wins.

    The Aaron Rodgers Revenge Tour ’18 will be something special to watch this year.

  52. tonyzendejas says:
    July 7, 2018 at 12:21 pm
    Best September-through-December QB since PEDton Manning.
    ______________________

    Actually your assumption is a little bit off.
    Though Rodgers has put up exemplary regular season numbers, they’ve also been quite good during the postseason.
    In fact, Rodgers ranks 5th all time for postseason QB rating.
    If anyone else is interested, Tom Brady is ranked 13th.
    Just sayin…….

  53. “He” thinks he deserves to be the highest paid quarterback? Since when? Can someone please show me where he has said that, or said anything similar at all? Sure sounds like hate-bait to me. The Packers WANT to make him the highest paid quarterback. My Lord, if Cousins can get the highest guaranteed monies in the history of the game for doing absolutely nothing but fulfill Viking fans’ wishes, hopes, and prayers, ……Rodgers should get double his.

    By the way, my avoidance of three-beer easy-drunk Viking fans is equally impressive, and they’ll be out in force this year. We all saw how wishing, hoping, and praying worked against New Orleans. Viking fans are more convinced than ever it’s their ticket.

  54. The only “SuperBowl or Bust” guarantee in the entire league this year is the Minnesota Vikings. They got Charlie-Browned by the Eagles, but they were close. Keenum did great all year, but only got close. They had (past tense) a vaunted “regular season” defense, that can’t get any better (according to Viking fan.) All the pieces were right there……at their fingertips.

    Now…..they guaranteed Cousins in order to guarantee their fans at least an appearance in the SuperBowl. If they accomplish the same (or God forbid…..less) as Keenum, it’s a failure and a bust. Everybody………Viking fan included…….knows it.

    Viking fans had better start wishing, hoping, and praying right now.

  55. I wonder if the defensive players for the Vikings will just call their own plays this year again? After all, they know better than Zimmer.

    Then again, maybe they do. Has he won anything?

    No?

  56. stellarperformance says:
    July 7, 2018 at 1:10 pm
    The only “SuperBowl or Bust” guarantee in the entire league this year is the Minnesota Vikings. They got Charlie-Browned by the Eagles, but they were close. Keenum did great all year, but only got close. They had (past tense) a vaunted “regular season” defense, that can’t get any better (according to Viking fan.) All the pieces were right there……at their fingertips.

    Now…..they guaranteed Cousins in order to guarantee their fans at least an appearance in the SuperBowl. If they accomplish the same (or God forbid…..less) as Keenum, it’s a failure and a bust. Everybody………Viking fan included…….knows it.

    Viking fans had better start wishing, hoping, and praying right now.

    stellarperformance says:
    July 2, 2018 at 12:11 pm
    “ I find myself criticizing a team (Vikings ) that I actually kind of like. I do it in response to incessant Packer-bashing and my replies are all-encompassing because I don’t have time to respond”

    “Sorry. I’ll work on it.”

    //////////////////////////////

    Good to see you’re working on it.

  57. I don’t get why it’s so hard to admit Rodgers is great. He makes everyone on that team better, particularly the head coach. While from a pure football perspective he’s a pleasure to watch, it sure sucks to have your favorite team in the same division.

  58. Lil’ Aaron is a nice little QB but he’s not even among the best two QBs to ever play on his own team. Bart Starr and Brett Favre take those honors with little debate.

  59. Don’t know why the Packers dwell on the past so much. O wait I know, it’s because they suck in the present. Lose their QB and barely win 3 games. Vikings lost theirs and won 12. Packers are pathetic and Rodgers is a loser. One SB win doesn’t make you anywhere close to being the GOAT. What a joke. Have fun getting swept again by the Vikings. #packerssuck #discountdoublechoke such a pathetic team the Packers are lol

  60. tombombadill says:
    July 7, 2018 at 2:03 pm
    Don’t know why the Packers dwell on the past so much. O wait I know, it’s because they suck in the present. Lose their QB and barely win 3 games. Vikings lost theirs and won 12.
    —–

    And neither team won the SB. So does it really matter? After all, the goal is to win the SB is it not?

  61. boyso3 says:
    July 7, 2018 at 9:42 am
    onthewarpath28
    Jul 7, 2018, 9:31 AM EDT
    Teams win titles, not players. Rodgers is the GOAT because he’s won a SB despite Mike McCarthy. Belichick has a lot to do with # of titles Brady has.

    Didn’t you just say that teams win Super Bowls and the next thing you talk about is how Rodgers is the best because “he” won a Super Bowl. The irony is too incredible. And do you really think the greatest player in NFL history is going to be the guy that helped his team win 1 Super Bowl! That’s hilarious. Next you’re going to tell me that Doug Williams is the greatest QB in the history of the game. What about Brees?

    Practice reading completely. I said Rodgers won despite McCarthy who is an awful coach. Look what happens to Green Bay every time Rogers goes down with an injury. When Brady got hurt the Matt Cassle led patriots won 10 or 11 games. If I put Brady on Green Bay he may not even when won Super Bowl.

  62. I was home on leave for Christmas 2010. Instead of going to see my bruins, I ponied up the money to see Rodgers and Tommy. Instead, I got Matt Flynn😑 but what a game that was. We were totally outplayed and Dan connolly saved us with a 60 yard kickoff return.

    Mark the calendar folks. If you’re a hater of my team/my QB or a bears fan (I live in Chicago now and My wife is a bears fan and we had that dumb Staley mascot at our wedding), this will probably be the last time tommy and Aaron share a field together……that game is going to be a beauty..or Harvard vs Yale.

  63. instead of criticizing Rodgers and Brady, fans should appreciate how great they are. they dont get hit late like the old days but defenses are better schemed, bigger, and faster than ever.

  64. navyvandal says:
    July 7, 2018 at 2:20 pm

    I was home on leave for Christmas 2010. Instead of going to see my bruins, I ponied up the money to see Rodgers and Tommy. Instead, I got Matt Flynn😑 but what a game that was. We were totally outplayed and Dan connolly saved us with a 60 yard kickoff return.

    Mark the calendar folks. If you’re a hater of my team/my QB or a bears fan (I live in Chicago now and My wife is a bears fan and we had that dumb Staley mascot at our wedding), this will probably be the last time tommy and Aaron share a field together……that game is going to be a beauty..or Harvard vs Yale.
    ——————————————————

    I hope your right, but as a Pat’s fan I’m not looking forward to seeing Rodgers have 8 to 10 seconds to throw the ball like he did in the 2014 game at G.B. We still had some semblance of a pass rush/defense then, but with the absolute garbage D’s Bill has been putting out lately- oof. Could be a long day.

  65. Its fun watching the Vikings trolls twist and turn their facts and integrity to find some way to criticize Rodgers. All the while, they have the joy of knowing that the Vikings picked 7th (Troy Williamson – WR) and then 18th (Erasmus James – DE) who were both out of the league in less than 4 years before the Packers selected Aaron Rodgers with the 24th pick in the 2005 draft and sealed the Vikings fate as perennial runner-ups for a decade and a half (at least). Oh – what could have been!!!!!

  66. I hope your right, but as a Pat’s fan I’m not looking forward to seeing Rodgers have 8 to 10 seconds to throw the ball like he did in the 2014 game at G.B. We still had some semblance of a pass rush/defense then, but with the absolute garbage D’s Bill has been putting out lately- oof. Could be a long day.

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    I was in Milwaukee with my wife during that game 😑. But it wasn’t a terrible game plan. Remember, chandler jones was still out with his shoulder ailment so we couldn’t really rush Aaron. Plus, let him hold onto the ball, make them beat us over the middle. Cobb is always hurt, and Nelson is slowed down and gone. That game plan wasn’t terrible minus thag putrid Nelson catch and run at the end of the first half. We still could’ve won the game if rob didn’t drop that ball in the end zone which would’ve been an amazing catch going to the ground. Then Stevie missed that 50 yarder

  67. johngaltwho says:
    July 7, 2018 at 3:10 pm
    Its fun watching the Vikings trolls twist and turn their facts and integrity to find some way to criticize Rodgers. All the while, they have the joy of knowing that the Vikings picked 7th (Troy Williamson – WR) and then 18th (Erasmus James – DE) who were both out of the league in less than 4 years before the Packers selected Aaron Rodgers with the 24th pick in the 2005 draft and sealed the Vikings fate as perennial runner-ups for a decade and a half (at least). Oh – what could have been!!!!!
    ———————————————

    Yeah because all teams with 26 year old all pro QBs on their team should be looking for more QBs in the first round. You cheesers need to put down the glue.

  68. tombombadill says:
    July 7, 2018 at 2:03 pm

    Don’t know why the Packers dwell on the past so much. O wait I know, it’s because they suck in the present. Lose their QB and barely win 3 games. Vikings lost theirs and won 12.
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    I can totally understand why a Vikings fan might be confused about a team dwelling on the past, since the Vikings have virtually no past of to dwell on.

  69. idiedpretty says:
    July 7, 2018 at 12:31 pm
    Three words: One SB victory

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    Actually that is four words: One Super Bowl Victory
    Or two words and one acronym.
    We appreciate the effort of trolling, but you need to do better.

  70. Rogers needs rings. It’s good to not throw interceptions. Bernie Kosar played in 126 games and only has 87 career interceptions. He never won or been to a Super Bowl so he is not in any HOF discussions ever. People have more respect for Trent Dilfer who set records going the other way but has a SB ring.

  71. “Aaron Rodgers’ avoidance of interceptions is incredible”

    but not his avoidance of taking dives.
    always wonder why this cheat gets a free pass for diving
    he’s an awesome qb, no need for that

  72. johngaltwho says:
    July 7, 2018 at 3:10 pm
    Its fun watching the Vikings trolls twist and turn their facts and integrity to find some way to criticize Rodgers. All the while, they have the joy of knowing that the Vikings picked 7th (Troy Williamson – WR) and then 18th (Erasmus James – DE) who were both out of the league in less than 4 years before the Packers selected Aaron Rodgers with the 24th pick in the 2005 draft and sealed the Vikings fate as perennial runner-ups for a decade and a half (at least). Oh – what could have been!

    ///////////////////////

    Ridiculous post. Viking QB Daunte Culpepper just had a 4700+ yd 37 TD year. Did not need a QB. No one knows how a player will be in the pros. The Packers passed on quite a few great QBs through the years.
    Roger Staubach
    Joe Namath
    Ken Stabler
    Dan Fouts
    Joe Montana
    Jim Kelly
    Dan Marino
    Even Brett Favre.

  73. navyvandal says:
    July 7, 2018 at 2:20 pm
    I was home on leave for Christmas 2010. Instead of going to see my bruins, I ponied up the money to see Rodgers and Tommy. Instead, I got Matt Flynn😑 but what a game that was. We were totally outplayed and Dan connolly saved us with a 60 yard kickoff return.
    _____________________

    As righteous fun that had to be for the average football fan, I was never more mortified watching my team trying to make a simple special team’s tackle
    Hats off to that young man, though.
    It was a Hell of a return.

    I would love to chime in on the fact that it should be a pleasure watching these two great QBs share the field at least one last time.
    Hopefully, Green Bay can put up an equally good matchup as the last time.

  74. The reason this jerk throws so few interceptions that COUNT is because he runs a dishonest offense that is predicated on free plays. This is their offense – they cheat and take advantage of pre-snap penalties by the defense to get yards and points they cannot do running a LEGAL offense. This QB is a fraud – all gimmick – a complete joke. A real unprofessional blivethead.

  75. flviking says:
    July 7, 2018 at 1:22 pm
    Good to see you’re working on it.
    //////////////////////////////

    I’m trying to stay away from Viking threads and I’m usually reactive, rarely proactive. When all the usual suspect Viking trolls, like you, predictably show up with nothing on your little brains but an intent to bash the Packers and Packer fans and subsequently add nothing substantive related to football, I won’t hesitate to give all of you a collective kick you-know-where.

  76. TheCommish says:
    July 7, 2018 at 4:02 pm
    His avoidance of playoff wins in recent years has been equally impressive

    ————————

    There were like 6 or 7 people who have already said basically the same thing (of course he’s won 3 out of 5 playoff games in the last 3 seasons combined, so it’s a factually inaccurate statement). Try to be more original with your trolling (I would’ve said “factual”, but we all know you don’t care about that).

  77. dreemeagle says:
    July 7, 2018 at 7:39 am
    what’s even more incredible is the utter and complete avoidance of any semblance of objectivity by the NFL when it comes to officiating his games;
    perhaps the most blatantly unconscionable example was the Michigan Mulligan against the Lions, a play that never, ever should’ve occurred under any circumstances;
    ———————————–
    No mention of the play before the facemask play? Ya know, the one where Rodger’s WR was tackled before the pass arrived and the refs didn’t penalize the lions on their blatant PI… So instead of a 30 yard hail mary – he had to complete a 70 yarder and lions still choked. No mention of Nevin Lawson mugging Davante Adams all game at Lambeau that year either… smh.

  78. “Hopefully Green Bay can put up an equally good match up as last time”

    The last time the Packers played the Patriots and Tom Brady the Packers won in 2014. Aaron and the offense put up 478 yards and the game was not as close as the final score. 26-21 Green Bay.

  79. Current and former players: “Rodgers is one of the best to ever play the game.”

    Analysts who are paid to study the game: “Rodgers is one of the best to ever play the game.”

    PFT commenters (Vikings fans, with a few lions and bears fans sprinkled in): “Rodgers is totally overrated.”

    Hmmmm…..who to believe?????

  80. schmokes says:
    July 7, 2018 at 7:11 pm
    Current and former players: “Rodgers is one of the best to ever play the game.”

    Analysts who are paid to study the game: “Rodgers is one of the best to ever play the game.”

    PFT commenters (Vikings fans, with a few lions and bears fans sprinkled in): “Rodgers is totally overrated.”

    Hmmmm…..who to believe?
    ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

    I know right?
    But I have heard current and former players say he’s not one of the best to play the game.

    Analysts who get paid saying he’s not one of the best, except for homegrown Romo. Love that guy.

    And of course PFT commenters that say he’s not one of the best……

    Hmmmmmm….So my point I guess is he’s not one of the best. Shoot I thought he was.

  81. stellarperformance says:
    July 7, 2018 at 5:03 pm
    flviking says:
    July 7, 2018 at 1:22 pm
    Good to see you’re working on it.
    //////////////////////////////

    I’m trying to stay away from Viking threads and I’m usually reactive, rarely proactive. When all the usual suspect Viking trolls, like you, predictably show up with nothing on your little brains but an intent to bash the Packers and Packer fans and subsequently add nothing substantive related to football, I won’t hesitate to give all of you a collective kick you-know-where.
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    Are you picking a fight Stella? Not cool bro.

  82. Taking sacks instead possibly throwing an interception; way to sacrifice that body…collarbones.
    Also, good on whoever (aaron’s agent) for dropping this tidbit of stat. The timing couldn’t have been more perfect. $$$,$$$,$$$.00. It’s gonna be like going to the butcher shop whenever this deal is finalized.

  83. Its hard to throw picks with whats left of your collarbone in a sling while youre standing on the sideline.

    Next to Andrew Suck, Rodgers is the most overhyped and overrated qb in the NFL. I mean seriously, throw a couple of hail marys that someone catches and announcers and the media rave like only he could do it. Its a hail mary, a desperation play that the result of which is 100% luck, for the good or bad. If Aaron was half as good as he thinks he is then the Packers would never be in the position of needing to use a hail mary in the first place.

    He signed a fairly negotiated contract. Signed in good faith by the Packers and him. Rodgers should be a MAN and live up to the agreed upon terms. I mean, whats he going to do? Sit out two years and give up 45 million dollars? He has zero leverage and the Packers must know it.

  84. Aaron Rodgers avoidance of interceptions is incredible

    So is his “avoidance” of the Super Bowl!
    I’ve never seen a QB so talented, and a team consistently picked for the Super Bowl, to NOT make it!

    He comes off arrogant, aloof, selfish and can’t seem to elevate his team to another SB appearance. He may put up great individual season stats, but with only one title, he’s not even in my top-7 all time!

  85. stellarperformance says:
    July 7, 2018 at 5:03 pm
    flviking says:
    July 7, 2018 at 1:22 pm
    Good to see you’re working on it.
    //////////////////////////////

    I’m trying to stay away from Viking threads and I’m usually reactive, rarely proactive. When all the usual suspect Viking trolls, like you, predictably show up with nothing on your little brains but an intent to bash the Packers and Packer fans and subsequently add nothing substantive related to football, I won’t hesitate to give all of you a collective kick you-know-where

    ////////////////////
    RELAX stella, I was only reacting to your post disrespecting the Vikings. Isn’t that what you do? You say you are reactive,rarely proactive. I guess we should “do as you say, not as you do”. And I won’t hesitate in turning this car around.

  86. Football is the ultimate team sport, differing greatly from golf, tennis, and boxing where an individual performance can be judged.

    Quarterbacks like Jim Kelly, Dan Marino,Fran Tarkenton, Warren Moon, and Archie Manning have zero Super Bowl victories while guys like Doug Williams, Mark Ripien, Jeff Hostetler, and Trent Dilfer are super Bowl winning quarterbacks.

    The numbers that Aaron Rodgers has put up are in a class by itself and I have watched most of the highest rated quarterback play the game in person and the ones I haven’t watched in person, I watched on TV. I have never seen any quarterback play as efficient and effectively as Rodgers. In my opinion, he is the same class as Jack Nicklas in golf and Roger Federer in tennis…simply magnificent.

  87. schmokes says:
    July 7, 2018 at 7:11 pm

    Current and former players: “Rodgers is one of the best to ever play the game.”

    Analysts who are paid to study the game: “Rodgers is one of the best to ever play the game.”

    PFT commenters (Vikings fans, with a few lions and bears fans sprinkled in): “Rodgers is totally overrated.”

    Hmmmm…..who to believe?????

    ———–

    Valid argument and I agree that Rodgers is one of the best ever. But fair being fair, players and analysts say that Brady is the GOAT. Are you okay with accepting that also? Because most Aaron fans wouldn’t.

  88. He deserves more money. No doubt, but it will make it harder for him to get another Super Bowl ring if he is paid even more because the team won’t have much money to improve the rest of the roster. I suppose being paid the most satisfies his ego, in compensation for his bad feeling due to the lack of a second ring.

  89. “tb12greatest says:
    July 7, 2018 at 10:38 am
    If super bowls don’t matter, then Joe Montana shouldn’t be in the conversation because his stats are average. Rodgers = P Manning = Marino. None of them were great playoff QBs but phenomenal in the regular season.”

    A lot of people like to chatter when they don’t really know what they are talking about. Which is fine I guess, but it shows how unintelligent we humans are.

    Speaking of which, Rodgers and montana are 2 of the highest rated playoff qb’s in NFL history. Rodgers is in the top 5, Bart star is #1, and Montana is just below Rodgers. Tom Brady… He actually comes in at #13, 10 points lower in career playoff QB rating. Those are all good stats, but it’s a team sport. Anybody who says Brady is just better in the playoffs than any of the other greats is one of those individuals that doesnt really know sports. He has been a key player on great teams. Period. One of the best to have ever played the game. But he isn’t head and shoulders above everybody else to play the position. He is a system QB.

  90. vikingjack73 says:
    July 7, 2018 at 9:31 pm
    Aaron Rodgers avoidance of interceptions is incredible

    So is his “avoidance” of the Super Bowl!
    I’ve never seen a QB so talented, and a team consistently picked for the Super Bowl, to NOT make it!

    He comes off arrogant, aloof, selfish and can’t seem to elevate his team to another SB appearance. He may put up great individual season stats, but with only one title, he’s not even in my top-7 all time!

    ——————————————————————————————-
    Who cares about your top 7 all time? And you are obviously devoid of any football knowledge or you’d know it takes 53 men to win a Super Bowl.
    Rodgers has played well enough to have gotten to more than one Super Bowl. But the Packers defense was simply not good enough.
    If you asked all the head coaches in the NFL which QB they’d take to lead their team right now — this year — I guarantee you the overwhelming choice would be Aaron Rodgers.

  91. ragnarthemagnificent says:
    July 7, 2018 at 10:27 pm
    What’s the record for choking in playoff games? I think he’s on pace to set that record too

    ————————-

    Can’t thinks of Aaron Rodgers playoff record off the top of my head (he’s got a winning percentage bye), but the numbers 0-4 and 38-7 do come to mind when thinking about the Vikings playoff resume. Do you recognize either of those numbers?

    56 unsuccessful seasons and counting.

  92. Make no mistake, as a fan I loved Brett Favre’s style. As a former coach, I love Aaron Rodgers’ style. Favre played a commando-style game – who wouldn’t love that. Rodgers plays a more cerebral game – football as chess) and I love that equally – but I sure didn’t miss the interceptions that Brett tossed.

    I can only speak as a Packers’ fan who got to watch all 3 of the Packers’ greats and admired each for what they brought to the game. Don’t know why young Pats’ fans need to defend Brady in every story about Rodgers. He would probably prefer that you guys shut the hell up (I know I would if I were him). Anyway, Brady…Montana…Graham…Starr, all world-class LEADERS who led their teams to multi-championships. All from different eras of the game who probably could not do what they’ve done if playing in different eras – for different reasons, but my god, all great and all Hall of Fame.

  93. Perhaps the Packers should stop drafting so many offensive weapons for Rodgers in the early rounds and take more defensive players to help the whole team out. I mean this is the argument of why Rodgers can’t win/get to the big one, he doesn’t have the defense right? Or is this the argument of why Rodgers has the passing numbers, playing with such high draft picks at the pass catching position?
    If he were in the conversation of the GOAT, and he may be 5-7 years from now, he should be able to carry the team fee into the playoffs a bit more.

    Jordy Nelson 2nd rd
    Randall Cobb 2nd Rd
    Davonte Adams 2nd rd
    Jeremichael Finley 3rd rd
    Greg Jennings 2nd Rd
    James Jones 3rd rd

  94. It’s a great stat, but it hurts him sometimes. He doesn’t take enough risks when playing from behind on the scoreboard. He hasn’t had as many comebacks as he should have. He’s in the Matt Cassel category for 4th Quarter comebacks. Subsequently he loses a few too many games and can’t get the home field advantage.

  95. Yeah the Packers are not very good. They have no defense. Need to build a team. Only have Rodgers.

    Let’s see how many are saying these falsehoods after Sept. 9th.

    That awkward moment you realize The Packers are on the road to World Championship #14 and you completely made a fool of yourself trolling them all summer😃

  96. ragnarthemagnificent says:
    July 7, 2018 at 10:27 pm

    What’s the record for choking in playoff games? I think he’s on pace to set that record too.
    +++++++++

    Zimmer has him beat.

  97. freefromwhatyouare says:
    July 8, 2018 at 9:05 am
    Yeah the Packers are not very good. They have no defense. Need to build a team. Only have Rodgers.

    Let’s see how many are saying these falsehoods after Sept. 9th.

    That awkward moment you realize The Packers are on the road to World Championship #14 and you completely made a fool of yourself trolling them all summer😃

    ////////////////////////////

    Anything less than a Super Bowl Championship will be a colossal failure by the packers and their front office. You know that.

    Good luck with that

    And congratulations on winning the off season championship again!

  98. flviking says:
    July 7, 2018 at 9:50 pm
    RELAX stella, I was only reacting to your post disrespecting the Vikings. Isn’t that what you do? You say you are reactive,rarely proactive. I guess we should “do as you say, not as you do”. And I won’t hesitate in turning this car around.
    ////////////////////

    No, that’s not what I do. I react to a Viking troll that starts the fight. Your reaction to my reaction is sustaining a fight that was started by a Viking troll in the first place. That’s what fight-pickers do.

    Isn’t there an episode of Matlock you’re missing?

  99. schmokes says:
    July 8, 2018 at 6:50 am
    ragnarthemagnificent says:
    July 7, 2018 at 10:27 pm
    What’s the record for choking in playoff games? I think he’s on pace to set that record too

    ————————-

    Can’t thinks of Aaron Rodgers playoff record off the top of my head (he’s got a winning percentage bye), but the numbers 0-4 and 38-7 do come to mind when thinking about the Vikings playoff resume. Do you recognize either of those numbers?

    56 unsuccessful seasons and counting.
    ———-
    This is a thread about Arodge but you just had to talk about the Vikings because you love them so much huh. Can’t even focus on the topic at hand with those straw man arguments. What’s important is that Rodgy and the fudge factory has choked 8 out of his 9 seasons as starter.

    What good is the Int to TD ratio if he’s not winning?

  100. You are the only one that has won only off season championships. Green Bay fans know real glory. You keep on enjoying your paper titles little one.

    No one here will forget that you said now that Aaron Jones is suspended 2 games the Packers season is over and the Vikings will “dominate”

    Paper titles and parades in July is ALL you have known and will ever know.

    See you Sept. 16th ‘florida viking’😂

  101. freefromwhatyouare says:
    July 8, 2018 at 11:27 am
    You are the only one that has won only off season championships. Green Bay fans know real glory. You keep on enjoying your paper titles little one.

    No one here will forget that you said now that Aaron Jones is suspended 2 games the Packers season is over and the Vikings will “dominate”

    Paper titles and parades in July is ALL you have known and will ever know.

    See you Sept. 16th ‘florida viking

    ///////////////////////

    Below is the post you are referring to. No where does it say “dominate”. Pack fan reaching now. I would put a smiley emoji, but that’s so teenage girl.

    flviking says:
    July 3, 2018 at 4:27 pm
    freefromwhatyouare says:
    July 3, 2018 at 4:21 pm
    Old news. Had a weed possession last year.

    Is it good news? No. Is it breaking news or earth shattering season changing news? No.

    /////////////////////////////

    Yes this is season changing news. He is by far your best RB. Week one loss to Bears, week two loss to Vikngs. Starting season 0-2 against NFCN teams. You don’t know much about football do you skippy

  102. Yes you claim losing Aaron Jones is “season changing” for the Packers. Anyone with any football knowledge whatsoever knows this is a clueless statement. Please do keep trolling. You are great for laughs. I appreciate that.

    When I get time I can go find the quote when you also recently said the Vikings will “dominate” the Packers both games this season. If you want to deny it now that just shows more of your insecurity about the season.

  103. This thread was doing just fine until the pathetic midwesterners from Moronsota & Wimpconsin had to start their little flame war again. Guess what – the other 99% of commenters on PFT could give a crap about your little flyover country flame war, so GET LOST!

    Anyways, we fans are blessed to be able to witness Brady, Rodgers and Brees in this era, and they deserve all the credit they are given.

    That said, some people on here seem to have forgotten the greatness of one Peyton Manning.

  104. stellarperformance says:
    July 8, 2018 at 11:18 am
    flviking says:
    July 7, 2018 at 9:50 pm
    RELAX stella, I was only reacting to your post disrespecting the Vikings. Isn’t that what you do? You say you are reactive,rarely proactive. I guess we should “do as you say, not as you do”. And I won’t hesitate in turning this car around.
    ////////////////////

    No, that’s not what I do. I react to a Viking troll that starts the fight. Your reaction to my reaction is sustaining a fight that was started by a Viking troll in the first place. That’s what fight-pickers do.

    Isn’t there an episode of Matlock you’re missing

    //////////////////////

    That’s a lot of rules you have there.
    And I have all of the Matlock and Golden Girls episodes on VCR

  105. freefromwhatyouare says:
    July 8, 2018 at 12:45 pm
    Yes you claim losing Aaron Jones is “season changing” for the Packers. Anyone with any football knowledge whatsoever knows this is a clueless statement. Please do keep trolling. You are great for laughs. I appreciate that.

    When I get time I can go find the quote when you also recently said the Vikings will “dominate” the Packers both games this season. If you want to deny it now that just shows more of your insecurity about the season

    ////////////////////////

    Go for it bro.

  106. universalchurchoftruth says:
    July 8, 2018 at 12:52 pm
    The Packer trolls on these stories are getting bad. They are a whiny bunch in general and they are getting worse each day.

    ———–

    Hello pot. Meet kettle. This is a Green Bay thread and has nothing to do with Minnesota, so the only trolls here are Viking fans whose opinion doesn’t matter or isn’t welcome. You are clearly inferior to your big brother to the east, so stay in the Minnesota playpen, little babies.

  107. flviking says:
    July 8, 2018 at 12:51 pm
    That’s a lot of rules you have there.
    And I have all of the Matlock and Golden Girls episodes on VCR
    ////////////////////

    One? One, is a lot of rules?

    1) Don’t pick unnecessary fights. Be better than that. This world faces enough bullies everyday, and we don’t need more. But do what you want. That’s why this already great country gives us freedom of choice.

    Good luck with that…….

  108. I just scroll to the bottom and start laughing as I scroll back up.
    I have a hunch its going to be awfully quiet from Wisconsin by mid-October. Again.

    Your team is trash, and you’ll find out again soon enough. It’s like you guys just forgot about how back your team was last year. I would feel bad for A-aron if he wasnt such a pompous prick.

    Rodgers also leads the league in interceptions called back after a penalty on the defense. P-R-I-C-K.

  109. I read where big Mike is thinking about moving Montgomery back to WR…because if you throw enough poop against a wall something has got to stick. lol This is the type of “planning” that happens in a year one rebuild.

  110. Frazier another one who only ever has tasted a offseason championship.

    He Florida Viqueer and Cheese all want a parade in July every year.

    Never had real glory. Sucks to be you.

  111. Yea. I think if my team had accomplished real glory 13 times by now, I’d probably find something better to do with my time than obsess over the Vikings. Sucks to be you/

  112. Viking trolls are bitter and angry today. Their words are anxious. First of all, their team gets no respect (because they haven’t done anything,) while they nod their all-knowing heads in unison, regretfully confident the Packers are once again the team to beat in the NFCN.

    And that’s despite the Packers being saddled with the toughest schedule in the league this coming season.

  113. freefromwhatyouare says:
    July 8, 2018 at 9:05 am

    That awkward moment you realize The Packers are on the road to World Championship #14 and you completely made a fool of yourself trolling them all summer

    ///////////////////////

    I love my Pack as much as the next guy, but the Viking trolls do have a point of some of us winnng the off season Championship. We have a long road ahead to get to #14. Stuff like from free will come back to bite us. gopackgo

  114. “Obsess”?

    I’ve never posted in a Vikings thread on PFT. The Vikings are irrelevant to me. The ONLY time I think of or mention the Vikings is in reply to you trolls flooding every Packers thread. Why are you here in a Packers thread? Tell us.

    I enjoy talking about the Packers free of trolls. And soon will be able to do that here on PFT.

    Stay tuned👌👍👏

  115. freefromwhatyouare says:
    July 8, 2018 at 5:43 pm
    Frazier another one who only ever has tasted a offseason championship.

    He Florida Viqueer and Cheese all want a parade in July every year.

    Never had real glory. Sucks to be you

    ///////////////////

    Oh, oh, I think we upset free. He’s not using his smiley face emoji anymore.

  116. stellarperformance says:
    July 8, 2018 at 6:16 pm
    Viking trolls are bitter and angry today. Their words are anxious. First of all, their team gets no respect (because they haven’t done anything,) while they nod their all-knowing heads in unison, regretfully confident the Packers are once again the team to beat in the NFCN.

    And that’s despite the Packers being saddled with the toughest schedule in the league this coming season.
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    A bold delusional prediction followed by a built in excuse for failure. The whole first semester of Being a Packer Fan 101.

  117. And that’s despite the Packers being saddled with the toughest schedule in the league this coming season.
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    Yes the Vikings are considered to be better than the Packets this year.

  118. blameconservatives4everythingbad says:
    July 8, 2018 at 8:13 pm
    To the pats fan without any sense… Rodgers is BY FAR the best QB that has ever played for the Packers and Rodgers outclasses lil temper tantrum deflater Tommy in every aspect of the game.

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    Rodgers “by far” the best QB to play for the packers? He’s not even close. Bart Starr won 3 NFL championships and the first two Super Bowls.
    And Rodgers does not outclass Brady. The exact opposite. I can see why Viking fans find packer fans so annoying.

  119. The Packers schedule was earlier rated as the toughest in the NFL.

    As the Packers have become the favorite to win the NFC, John Breech of CBS now has the Packers schedule as the easiest in the NFC.

    Breech notes the lowering expectations of Minnesota as a factor why the Packers schedule strength has fallen.

    Breech has the stretch which includes road games against the Rams, Pats, Seahawks as the Packers toughest part of the schedule.

  120. stellarperformance says:
    July 7, 2018 at 1:10 pm
    The only “SuperBowl or Bust” guarantee in the entire league this year is the Minnesota Vikings. They got Charlie-Browned by the Eagles, but they were close. Keenum did great all year, but only got close. They had (past tense) a vaunted “regular season” defense, that can’t get any better (according to Viking fan.) All the pieces were right there……at their fingertips.

    Now…..they guaranteed Cousins in order to guarantee their fans at least an appearance in the SuperBowl. If they accomplish the same (or God forbid…..less) as Keenum, it’s a failure and a bust. Everybody………Viking fan included…….knows it.

    Viking fans had better start wishing, hoping, and praying right now.

    **

    Holy Cow Stellar….YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON WHO IS SAYING SUPERBOWL OR BUST FOR THE VIKINGS. Stop pretending we are the ones saying this. You’re making things up again.

  121. I have some serious questions for Vikings fans. Let’s see if any can crawl out from under their rocks and give an intelligent, bias free answer:

    Do you really think Aaron Rodgers is that bad (because half your arguments are “Rodgers is all GB has” and half of them are “He isn’t good.”)?

    Do you really think the Packers don’t have a chance this year?

    Do you really think that the Vikings are SO MUCH better than the Packers?

    I’ll answer the same questions for the Vikings.

    1. I think it will take time for Cousins to learn the offense and–as such–you need to temper expectations for the first year.
    2. Of course the Vikings have a chance, providing everyone stays healthy.
    3. I think the Packers and Vikings are closer talent-wise than you think they are. That’s not bias, that’s looking at the additions and watching these players play. The Vikings have the better defense, but the Packers offense is better. The addition of Pettine might (not guaranteeing) improve the defense dramatically. If he can use our talent and hone it, the Packers will be a tough out come playoff time.

    I’ll be at both Vikings games. Let’s get a beer.

  122. Rodgers “by far” the best QB to play for the packers? He’s not even close. Bart Starr won 3 NFL championships and the first two Super Bowls.
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    Starr won 3 Championships… IN A ROW.. 5 overall..

  123. It’s a great stat, but it hurts him sometimes. He doesn’t take enough risks when playing from behind on the scoreboard. He hasn’t had as many comebacks as he should have. He’s in the Matt Cassel category for 4th Quarter comebacks. Subsequently he loses a few too many games and can’t get the home field advantage.
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    I think that is a fair point.. but consider your audience..

    Favre ended how many of our seasons with soul rending INTs?

    Rodgers is within 1 point and change from being the highest rated post season QB of all-time. Aside from 2 pretty weak NFCC Game showings, he’s been stellar in the post season.

    He’s certainly not the one costing us Super Bowls.

  124. “Vikings approaching ‘Super Bowl or bust,’ like it or not.”
    ByANTHONY BROOME

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    I’m the only one saying “SuperBowl or Bust,” for the Vikings? Zimmer just answered the question two days ago in a press conference, and you can find something on that very subject everyday if you do a search.

  125. Perhaps the Packers should stop drafting so many offensive weapons for Rodgers in the early rounds and take more defensive players to help the whole team out.
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    They certainly tried.

    They invested 23 1st-3rd rounders on defensive players in the Thompson-era. 31 mid-late rounders. VERY few made their mark.

  126. Doesn’t he have a an 0-35 record vs teams with a winning record by trailing by 1 point or more in the 4th?
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    He’s credited with 11 4thQ comebacks and 17 game-winning drives.. so, where did you find that stat?

  127. Rodgers is a fantastic passer yes, but he can’t lead or carry a banged-up team missing half it’s key guys and a non-existent defense to a Super Bowl.
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    Yes, he can, as I’ve pointed out to you multiple times;

    2010.

  128. “Vikings approaching ‘Super Bowl or bust,’ like it or not.”
    ByANTHONY BROOME

    ////////////////////

    I’m the only one saying “SuperBowl or Bust,” for the Vikings? I think not. My own Eagan Viking-fan neighbors are all saying the same thing. They have expectations. Wasn’t that the purpose of getting Cousins? Zimmer just answered the question two days ago in a press conference, and you can find something on that very subject everyday if you do a search.

  129. stellarperformance says:
    July 9, 2018 at 12:10 pm
    “Vikings approaching ‘Super Bowl or bust,’ like it or not.”
    ByANTHONY BROOME

    ////////////////////

    I’m the only one saying “SuperBowl or Bust,” for the Vikings? I think not. My own Eagan Viking-fan neighbors are all saying the same thing. They have expectations. Wasn’t that the purpose of getting Cousins? Zimmer just answered the question two days ago in a press conference, and you can find something on that very subject everyday if you do a search.

    ***

    Do you have expectations for the Packers this year?

  130. ‘Do you have expectations for the Packers this year’

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    One game at a time

  131. freefromwhatyouare says:
    July 9, 2018 at 1:48 pm
    ‘Do you have expectations for the Packers this year’

    ===================

    One game at a time
    ////////////////////

    Great answer. I wish I’d thought of it myself.

  132. when every professional sports commentator talks about the best qb’s, Rodgers is always in the conversation. but joe shmoe pft posting guy says different so, i guess Rodgers isnt. lol. at least skip bayless gets paid to make outlandish statements. save the critique for the bum playing qb on your team because he sure isnt better than Rodgers. facts.

  133. one could say the best qb’s that ever played wore the green and gold. since everyone is concerned with championships as the benchmark, bart starr has 5. including 3 in a row. so, by whatever criteria you choose, the Packers have had best qb’s in NFL history. and still do.

  134. stellarperformance says:

    July 9, 2018 at 6:01 pm

    freefromwhatyouare says:
    July 9, 2018 at 1:48 pm
    ‘Do you have expectations for the Packers this year’

    ===================

    One game at a time
    ////////////////////

    Great answer. I wish I’d thought of it myself.
    ==================================================
    I bet you do redundant, I bet you do. You don’t have the mental capability to come up with anything on your own though. You’ve been copying peoples thoughts for years on here and incorporating them as your own. You always end up copying the biggest turds too.

  135. No, that’s not what I do. I react to a Viking troll that starts the fight. Your reaction to my reaction is sustaining a fight that was started by a Viking troll in the first place. That’s what fight-pickers do.

    Isn’t there an episode of Matlock you’re missing
    ===================================================

    I swear, all of redundantperformances are 20+ years old. I mean, Matlock?! What’s next? Murder she wrote? I wonder if he was in a coma or something?

    By the way dummy, if you don’t take the bait and respond to the so called ” fight pickers”, the cycle stops. You perpetuate the back and forth because you cannot help yourself from responding with something really inane…….like Matlock.

  136. billtetley53 says:
    July 10, 2018 at 8:27 am
    By the way dummy, if you don’t take the bait and respond to the so called ” fight pickers”, the cycle stops.
    //////////////////////////////

    Very convenient.

  137. billtetley53 says:
    July 10, 2018 at 8:27 am

    By the way dummy, if you don’t take the bait and respond to the so called ” fight pickers”, the cycle stops. You perpetuate the back and forth because you cannot help yourself from responding with something really inane…….like Matlock.
    ++++++++

    If you don’t respond to Stella doesn’t that not start the next cycle? Why don’t you practice what you preach? Instead of preaching that others should not engage in the exact same behavior you are engaging in? Wouldn’t that be more effective? Even a dummy could see that.

  138. packertruth says:
    July 10, 2018 at 12:40 pm
    billtetley53 says:
    July 10, 2018 at 8:27 am
    By the way dummy, if you don’t take the bait and respond to the so called ” fight pickers”, the cycle stops. You perpetuate the back and forth because you cannot help yourself from responding with something really inane…….like Matlock.
    ++++++++
    If you don’t respond to Stella doesn’t that not start the next cycle? Why don’t you practice what you preach? Instead of preaching that others should not engage in the exact same behavior you are engaging in? Wouldn’t that be more effective? Even a dummy could see that.

    —–

    Triple negative. That’s tricky.

    The problem we have is that Vikings fans feel entitled to say and do anything they want, troll, make fun of others…etc…

    But if Packers fans do it… well… then it’s just the end of the world. How dare we?!

    It’s ok. They can’t answer simple questions and are frequently wowed by mediocre accomplishments.

  139. I don’t have 1 problem with anyone saying anything, well except redundant, he’s a nitwit. He’s also annoying.

    Trolling from both sides has been going on here for well over 10 years, it’s not something new, and it’s not ever going to change. It also happens on both sides. Tokyo, you should know this, you were here years ago too.

    The problem I have with Stella is the sheer constant repetition of his posts. He has virtually nothing of merit to say, so he repeats everything. It’s a stupid cry for attention.

    Hes basically a troll himself, he just doesn’t get that he is. He also feels the need to combat every single negative post…..I wish I had the free time he does.

    You see truth, I don’t care if you packers fans troll- it’s what this site is made for, so I don’t care if I perpetuate anything. If I want to talk sports, I do it with my friends. I post here to ruffle feathers and blow off steam.

    If Stellar can’t improve his postings, Im going to help hime look inane( he doesn’t need much help).

  140. Everyone is allowed to talk trash on this website. It doesn’t matter how many Super Bowls your favorite team has won or if you finished in third place in your division last year. People who complain about it are wasting time. Ironically, the people who complain about trash talking are the ones who talk more trash than most.

  141. aarons444 says:
    July 10, 2018 at 4:43 pm
    Any chance we can get this back on track? 🙂

    Rodgers >>> Brady

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    Agree. Rodgers is the best current QB. To much stock is put in that Brady has more rings. If that’s the criteria, is Pepper Johnson the greatest middle linebacker because he has 5 rings? Is Monsignor Peter Armstrong the greatest priest because he also has 5 rings? If Brady and Rodgers careers were swapped, Rodgers would be owning all Brady’s rings and I think Brady would have non.

  142. billtetley53 says:
    July 10, 2018 at 2:13 pm
    If Stellar can’t improve his postings, Im going to help hime look inane( he doesn’t need much help).
    /////////////////////////////////////

    Oooof. You’re the example????? That’s scary.

  143. Agree. Rodgers is the best current QB. To much stock is put in that Brady has more rings. If that’s the criteria, is Pepper Johnson the greatest middle linebacker because he has 5 rings? Is Monsignor Peter Armstrong the greatest priest because he also has 5 rings? If Brady and Rodgers careers were swapped, Rodgers would be owning all Brady’s rings and I think Brady would have non.
    ______________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Where do you come up with this stuff? Brady is considered the best because he has the hardware AND the accolades. He is top 5 in almost every QB category there is and owns almost all the playoff records as well. He’s not considered the best just because of the rings.

    Two years ago Rodgers was benched for some scrub back-up in the NFCC game and the Packers got blown out. Fast forward two weeks and Brady leads the greatest comeback in SB history being down 28-3 with 2 minutes left in the third quarter. That is the difference between Brady and everyone else.

  144. Any chance we can get this back on track? 🙂

    Rodgers >>> Brady
    ____________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Not according to their peers, who ranked Brady as the #1 overall player in the NFL. But hey, what do they know?

  145. Not according to their peers, who ranked Brady as the #1 overall player in the NFL. But hey, what do they know?
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    All they care about is hardware.

    Not every player is fortunate enough to play for the dynasty of their era.

  146. Two years ago Rodgers was benched for some scrub back-up in the NFCC game and the Packers got blown out. Fast forward two weeks and Brady leads the greatest comeback in SB history being down 28-3 with 2 minutes left in the third quarter. That is the difference between Brady and everyone else.
    ======

    Rodgers isn’t clutch?

    QB rating with score tied
    Rodgers – 106.0
    Brady – 98.5

    QB rating, tied under 4:00 to go
    Rodgers – 93.8
    Brady – 58.6

    QB rating, tied under 2:00 to go
    Rodgers – 114.8
    Brady – 68.3

    QB rating in losses
    Rodgers – 85.9
    Brady – 73.9

    QB rating when trailing
    Rodgers – 98.0
    Brady – 90.8

    QB rating, trailing under 4:00 to go
    Brady – 88.6
    Rodgers – 82.9

    QB rating, trailing under 2:00 to go
    Brady – 83.4
    Rodgers – 73.7

    Rodgers is the highest rated QB of all-time.

    Almost 10 points better than Brady in the post-season.

  147. When stats are more important to you than wins, you don’t take chances. you call audibles at the goal line to get another TD instead of giving your RB one, and when receivers aren’t WIDE open you throw the ball away or rush for 1 yd.

  148. tokyosandblaster says:

    July 9, 2018 at 10:20 am

    I have some serious questions for Vikings fans. Let’s see if any can crawl out from under their rocks and give an intelligent, bias free answer:

    Do you really think Aaron Rodgers is that bad (because half your arguments are “Rodgers is all GB has” and half of them are “He isn’t good.”)?

    Do you really think the Packers don’t have a chance this year?

    Do you really think that the Vikings are SO MUCH better than the Packers?

    I’ll answer the same questions for the Vikings.

    1. I think it will take time for Cousins to learn the offense and–as such–you need to temper expectations for the first year.
    2. Of course the Vikings have a chance, providing everyone stays healthy.
    3. I think the Packers and Vikings are closer talent-wise than you think they are. That’s not bias, that’s looking at the additions and watching these players play. The Vikings have the better defense, but the Packers offense is better. The addition of Pettine might (not guaranteeing) improve the defense dramatically. If he can use our talent and hone it, the Packers will be a tough out come playoff time.

    I’ll be at both Vikings games. Let’s get a beer.

    /////////////////////////////////////////////////////

    Let’s do a little roster review shall we? Considering your assertion that the Packers and Vikings have closer to equal talent than most think…

    QB; Rodgers > Cousins (this is a no-brainer but Cousins is still an upper echelon qb)
    Backfield; Montgomery/Jones/Williams < Cook/Murray
    WR; Adams/Cobb Vikings (this could shift if Elflein gets healthy)

    DL; Packers < Vikings and it's not even close
    LB; Packers < Vikings
    DB; Packers < Vikings

    The Vikings are VASTLY superior on the defensive side of the ball.

    With that being said; no they don't have the same talent level, not at all. The Packers have an elite quarterback and it stops there.

  149. Not sure how my reply got jacked up but it’s supposed to say WR; Adamas/Cobb < Thielen/Diggs (it's pretty close but most experts would say the Vikings duo is top 3)

  150. With that being said; no they don’t have the same talent level, not at all. The Packers have an elite quarterback and it stops there.
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    The Packers talent level has been eroding since they imploded in the 2014 NFCC Game.

    I think the more interesting question is, have the Lions passed them up or not.

    If Cousins is legit, the Vikes are set up very well over the next 3 years.

    .. Thielen/Diggs >>>>> the Packers WRs. Adams is poised to be the next great, the rest are nothing but question marks.

  151. hahahahaha

    Ok.

    It’s hilarious that you think the Vikings roster is THAT MUCH better than the Packers.

    How did they do when one CB went down in the playoffs?

    Most would say worse than when the Packers did when Rodgers went down.

    Oh, and over the first 4 games of their careers, Aaron Jones was a better running back than Dalvin Cook. He got injured like Cook did, and wasn’t able to get back there, but now he’s stronger and just as quick.

    You show your ignorant bias pretty blatantly.

    Peace.

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