Plenty of unknowns regarding the future of the Raiders

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It’s known that the Raiders currently play in Oakland. It’s known that they’ll eventually move to Las Vegas, and that they’ll eventually play in a new stadium that is being constructed there.

Beyond that, not much is known.

For example, it’s not known whether 2018 will be the team’s last year in Oakland. Which means it’s not known where the team will play in 2019. And it’s not known whether the new stadium will be ready by 2020. Which could force the team either to stay for up to two years longer in Oakland or to make other arrangements.

It’s also not know, as explained by Richard N. Velotta of the Las Vegas Review-Journal, what it will cost to attend games in the new stadium, from single-game tickets to season tickets to the all-important Personal Seat License, a made-up fee that authorizes the customer to actually sit in the chair that corresponds with the ticket that was purchased.

“Let’s just say our sales and marketing people are extremely happy with the response the market has given us,” StadCo COO Don Webb told Velotta. StadCo, a company owned by the Raiders, has collected $100 PSL deposits from “thousands” of fans.

Given the size of the new stadium, that could be anywhere from 2,000 to 65,000.

It’s also not known whether the deposits are coming from people in Nevada, or from people in California — Northern or Southern.

There’s still a long way to go before the stadium is finished, so there’s plenty of time for learning more details. Which is good, because there are plenty of details to still be learned.

52 responses to “Plenty of unknowns regarding the future of the Raiders

  1. Sounds like SALES AND MARKETING feel like they are about to hit the jackpot! PREDICTION: Tickets will be priced VEGAS STRIP high, locals will bow out. There will be more visitor fans than home fans and the stadium will only sell out when a top team, like the PATS, are in town.

  2. Proof that NFL owners think as much of it’s fans as it does the players on the team!
    If a team moves from it’s city, I think the colors and logos/name should stay in the former city, like the new Browns. I feel bad for the Oilers and St. Louis fans that no longer have a team they followed (I know Texans right), But most former oilers fans would still rather have the old name/logo/colors.. for so long and identified the uniform as theirs.
    It is all about the $$$$$$..
    How many Oakland fans supported that team, spending what I will never do again because of free agency and payers who are 1/2 as tough and dedicated as most of today’s whining babies

  3. Anybody that pays PSL money to teams is stupid. These teams dont give a damn about you.
    Ttake care of your family with that money, not help these billionaires become richer

  4. Oakland offered NO viable option so no they don’t get to keep the silver and black, not the name. The Raiders had no choice but to move and should be in L.A.
    Kroenke got the LA market even though St. Louis had a decent offering in the table for the Rams. The NFL wanted a proven businessman in that market instead of Marc Davis. I personally believe Davis has shown he’s smart enough to surround himself with the right people but they didn’t ask me.

    This is really a nonissue because Oakland isn’t stupid enough to tell the Raiders they can’t play there in 2019 or beyond if necessary. PFT reports on a potential problem that very likely will never amount to much of one.

  5. So it’s okay for St Louis to steal the Rams from LA after being their for 49 years but it’s not okay for them to go back? But it was okay for the Raiders to leave LA and go back to Oakland? So every city that lost a team should get a new one except for LA? St Louis stole the Cardinals in 1960 from Chicago after being there for like 60 years and than stole the Rams from LA in 1995 after being there for 49 years. Looks like the only city not deserving of an NFL team is St Louis. Oakland and SF are like two miles apart from each other, the Bay Area has another NFL team, they will be fine. San Diego is the only city that got screwed, Chargers should go back and build their own stadium not rent one in LA.

  6. One thing is for sure tho, they won’t be pawning any Super Bow rings (from LA Raiders) to Rick Harris Pawn Stars shop..

  7. Being a loyal fan of a football team does NOT necessitate any loyalty to a terrible owner, and outside of Jimmy Haslam in Cleveland Son-of-Al is the worst owner in the league.

    The best hope for the Raiders regaining sustained success on-the-field would be a new ownership with deep pockets who is wise enough to hire competent football people and lets them do their jobs without interference.

    As for the current move to Vegas, it’s a new location with no history of loyalty to the Silver & Black, so the fans will likely only show up to sell out the stadium if there’s success on the field. Moronic publicity stunts (like acquiring Lynch and bringing back Gruden) aren’t going to cut it and if the team continues to lose then Son-of-Al will face red ink and will eventually be forced to sell.

  8. Ironic how certain trollers, now find themselves the relocatee. How’s that Toronto franchise going?

  9. I love that “the haircut” gave all that guarenteed $$ to a coach with a record that’s barely over 500, and will be below 500 in a year or two.

  10. Very unlikely the Raiders will be back in Oakland in 2019. Oakland County is filing a lawsuit against the Raiders for a variety of claims. 2020 is unknown due to delays with the Vegas stadium and financing. Raiders may end up playing in Levi Stadium and riding beyotch with the 49ers (San Antonio or the college stadium in Vegas is an option). This is the worst organization in professional sports. They don’t have a clue. Not even about hair cuts.

  11. Feels like half the teams don’t even play in their own namesake. You know the kind, new York teams playing in New Jersey, Dallas in Austin, San Francisco in santa Clara, etc.

  12. The only city in America that should NEVER have another NFL franchise is St. Louis. Not only did 2 NFL teams leave one actually won a Superbowl for that city. Look at the difference in the fan base for the NFL that was in St. Louis compared to Kansas City. Oh and 2nd runner up is San Diego, you guys can whine and cry all you want but you all have a short memory, I remember seeing a half full stadium every Sunday when the Chargers were there and now all of a sudden Chargers fans are outraged….gimme a break.

  13. Obviously people who are talking about the construction of the stadium have no idea how fast Las Vegas construction moves. I have never seen a project not meet its deadline in Las Vegas. In fact most deadlines get moved up

  14. What an awful thing it is that some teams charge a PSL for fans just ot be able to buy season tickets. A nice way to “thank” fans that are willing to shell out the money for season tickets.

  15. nelly837 says:
    July 8, 2018 at 3:38 pm
    The only city in America that should NEVER have another NFL franchise is St. Louis. Not only did 2 NFL teams leave one actually won a Superbowl for that city. Look at the difference in the fan base for the NFL that was in St. Louis compared to Kansas City. Oh and 2nd runner up is San Diego, you guys can whine and cry all you want but you all have a short memory, I remember seeing a half full stadium every Sunday when the Chargers were there and now all of a sudden Chargers fans are outraged….gimme a break.

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    Well said! Chargers should rebrand like the Browns and Titans did and root themselves in LA, staying as the Chargers will be their downfall in LA!

  16. Look at all the haters who are jealous that their team isn’t the Raiders!

    >>

    #OneSuckerNation

    You’re supporting and giving your money to a team that is abandoning you.
    I would never want to be a fan of your team. Know why>? Mine just built a new stadium in their CURRENT market they are from! Sucker.

  17. It seems like a bad business plan that only the NFL could get away with. There are no concrete plans for anything, and the technical owner of the team, Mrs. Davis not Mark, the son, could theoretically pass on any moment as she’s in her advanced years, which leads to all kinds of questions about does Mark have enough liquid assets to continue owning the team. It’s potentially a huge mess waiting to happen, but the NFL wanted the Vegas market and that free money, so they ignored all of these issues, barrelling full speed ahead.

  18. The Raiders have a two in one problem. Their lease isn’t just for the use of the Coliseum but also their training facility. So if they don’t get an extension they have no where to practice either. Sam Boyd Stadium is not NFL equipped and their training facility is not built yet in Vegas. They have really two choices after Oakland; San Diego and St Louis, they both have stadiums and practice facilities. San Antonio only has a stadium so that would be tough too. Same with Santa Clara, where would they practice?

  19. kingthielenscourt says:
    July 8, 2018 at 1:20 pm

    “Proof that NFL owners think as much of it’s fans as it does the players on the team!
    If a team moves from it’s city, I think the colors and logos/name should stay in the former city, like the new Browns. I feel bad for the Oilers and St. Louis fans that no longer have a team they followed (I know Texans right), But most former oilers fans would still rather have the old name/logo/colors.. for so long and identified the uniform as theirs.
    It is all about the $$$$$$..
    How many Oakland fans supported that team, spending what I will never do again because of free agency and payers who are 1/2 as tough and dedicated as most of today’s whining babies”

    40 52 Rate This

    How can this have more thumbs down than thumbs up? There should be zero thumbs down for this post. A lot of young football fans on this site. #SMD

  20. Liberalsruineverything says:
    July 8, 2018 at 5:00 pm
    Why are so many people leaving Commifornia? I just don’t get it.

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    Oh is that why there’s an overabundance of low cost housing available?… oh wait.

  21. To all the Raider clowns,

    There is only one certainty when it comes to the Raiders. They are no longer the Oakland Raiders! Bye Bye Vegas Raiders. Look like we have the Bay to ourselves…… You were just renting anyway after your first move to LA after you led the league in blackouts in Oaktown!

    Niner Nation

  22. screbels89 says:
    July 8, 2018 at 1:44 pm
    “Oakland offered NO viable option”

    No. Oakland and Alameda County elected officials listened to their constituents’ very clear policy preference with respect to the public funding of NFL stadiums. Urban Californians have no appetite for publicly funding NFL stadiums for teams owned by very wealthy owners. Levi’s and KroenkeWorld prove this. And this policy preference has been clear to literally anyone in California who has been paying attention for well over a decade. Like Spanos, Mark Davis knew for years he wasn’t going to get any public money to build a replacement stadium anywhere in the Bay Area. But he didn’t make alternative plans because the whole thing was a charade to bilk the taxpayers of Nevada as much as possible. I doubt he ever dreamed he’d do it to the tune of $1 billion (once you factor interest on the bonds).

  23. Prob play practice in San Diego if O co given them the boot. They will sell more tickets down there than the bolts did.

    Ms Davis passing and this move are linked. With the new stadium and the revenue from luxury suites etc, the team will be worth more so mark can borrow against in order to afford the inheritance tax and not have to sell the majority interest.

    Smart move.

  24. Mark Davis is a fine owner. I dont agree with people bashing him even if Im not fond of his haircut. Fact is he got the team a stadium resolution after 20+ years of this not going amywhere in Oakland.

    I hope they stay for 2019 and I really beleive thats their wish but things are getting messy with the stadium authorities so they might move early to UNLV stadium until the new venue is ready. Dont think they would go to SF or San Antonio because I dont see any added value for the franchise in this kind of move..

  25. dynastypolice says:
    July 8, 2018 at 2:40 pm
    At least they had a good run with 5 SB appearances and were the winningest team in all of sports 60’s – 90’s. RIP Al…RIP Raiders.

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    Wow 5?! That’s a lot. I think thats a lot. Do you think that’s a lot?

  26. The Rams (and Chargers) have been back in LA now for several years. Yet I do not see Ram (or Charger) fans. No Ram shirts, no jerseys, no hats, no car stickers… Raider gear, on the other hand, is still selling very strong. The Raiders dominate the market.

    I figure those PSLs are being sold to the Southern California market. 4 hour drive to Vegas at 6 am. Tailgate from 10 to 1. Watch game. Sober up. Be home by 11 pm.

  27. @Art of the crowd
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    It’s not like they caught all the breaks either….would have been at least 7 if not for the immaculate deception in Pit and the Tuck call in NE (never before or since called – and now no longer a rule). But they had a good run…..kind of like the niners, under Eddy D with 5 straight SB titles….York…nothing but pain.

  28. Screw Mark Davis the backstabbing traitor.
    Raiders will be Chargers Jr. in a shiny new stadium filled with enemy fans.
    Mark will be rich though!
    The price will be the death of Raider Nation.

  29. @ raiderdave31 says:
    Ms Davis passing and this move are linked. With the new stadium and the revenue from luxury suites etc, the team will be worth more so mark can borrow against in order to afford the inheritance tax and not have to sell the majority interest.

    Smart move.
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    Anyone here know if Nevada has an estate or inheritance tax? Maybe our resident hammerhead, Mr. Florio could provide some legal perspective on how that would play out should Carol Davis pass.

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