Dear Aaron Rodgers: Ask for a piece of the gross revenue

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Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers doesn’t like me very much. Which is fine. I still think he’s a great quarterback, and I still would like to see him get much more than $22 million per year from the Packers, especially with the Falcons now paying Matt Ryan $30 million per year.

Rodgers won’t say that, of course. He knows it wouldn’t be received very well by fans who are far more inclined (inexplicably) to side with the billionaires who don’t play the game over the millionaires who do. So when he spoke about his contract to Peter King of NBC’s Football Morning in America, Rodgers chose his words very, very carefully, grossly downplaying a contractual situation that has become glaringly embarrassing.

“It’s only been on my mind because . . . people have been writing and talking about it a lot,” Rodgers initially told King. “There have been many conversations about it.”

(So, basically, if people hadn’t been writing or talking about it, Rodgers wouldn’t have noticed the parade of lesser quarterbacks systematically leapfrogging him over the past two years, from Andrew Luck to Derek Carr to Matthew Stafford to Jimmy Garoppolo to Kirk Cousins to Matt Ryan? Sorry, but that’s just not credible.)

“I think that there’s some merit to looking into where you do a non-traditional contractual agreement,” Rodgers added. “If anybody at this point is gonna be able to do something like that, I think there needs to be a conversation about it. I never said anything about [tying the contract to] the cap. I just think there’s ways to do contracts where you can still be competitive so the team is happy about it, but have some more freedom.”

That seems to be an implicit acknowledgement of the report that Rodgers may be looking for some sort of a clause that would give Rodgers a way to void his deal prematurely, if/when (when) he’s leapfrogged again. And that’s most likely not anything the Packers would ever do, not when they can squat on him for the next four years (two under his contract and two under the franchise tag), at an average payout far lower than current market value.

Here’s an idea, inspired by the news that the Packers generated $454.9 million in gross revenue and $34 million in profit: Rodgers should base his total pay not on the salary cap but on the money this publicly-traded business earns.

Of course, if he bases it on net revenue, creative accounting will ensure that there is no net revenue. So why not ask for a piece of the gross?

If Rodgers is indeed that valuable to the Packers (and he is), why not reward him accordingly? And with no billionaire owner in position to direct those millions of profit into his or her vault, why not ensure that a portion of the profits goes to the guy most responsible for generating them?

115 responses to “Dear Aaron Rodgers: Ask for a piece of the gross revenue

  1. This would set an untenable precedent, at least as far as the owners are concerned. If Rodgers gets a piece of the gross revenue, how long before other QBs start asking for similar deals? Do you think the owners are going to stand for that?

  2. honestly…as a Bears fan…I hope this whole issue blows up in their face and causes bad feelings and makes Rodgers want to drive for Nascar LOL

  3. I’m a Packers fan…just pay him. He’s been great for Green Bay, and I’m honestly surprised he hasn’t publicly complained about watching the Kirk Cousins of the world surpass him. It isn’t right.

    He has a few years left. If he wants a percentage of rhe cap, I’m fine with it. It would be nice to have a great QB wrap up his career peacefully as a Packer.

  4. Let the Pack break the bank or go back to 30 years on not irrelevance….I’m happy either way.

  5. No matter how great A-Aron is. He’s always 1 play away from being out for the year. Owners would be foolish to even do fully Gd deals beyond 2years. Let alone tie a player’s rate to gross revenue. There are literally 100’s of ex college QBs who would kill to play 1 game in the NFL. The NFL is a team sport. It isn’t like the NBA where 1 guy (LeBron) can make a team like the Cavaliers contenders. Without LeBron the Cavs are probably the worse team in the NBA next year.

  6. Rodgers is old and fragile and still has to play the Vikings twice per season. If the Packers are smart, they’ll sign him to a deal that only pays Rodgers for the games he actually plays in.

    Offer Rodgers 20 mil per game. Rodgers is happy and the fans are happy because the packers really ponied up. The packers play the Vikings in week 2. Since Rodgers will likely be done for the season by halftime of week 2, figure 10 mil for that game.

    So 30 mil total. Rodgers is still one of the highest paid players in the game and the packers haven’t ruined their cap situation. Simple.

  7. This is beyond stupid. The NFL has a hard SALARY CAP. Are you willing to pay the organization penalty if GB goes over the cap?

    Second point – if Rodgers does not want to risk another QB leapfrogging his pay, then sign only 1-year contracts. Have no safety guarantees after that. That’s the only way to ensure it. But if he wants to pass some of the injury risk of future years, that’s the COST of locking in long-term deals.

  8. The old boys club won’t go for giving up gross revenue percentages or guaranteed contracts. They already have demonstrated collusion with the fines levied for the no salary cap year, against the civil rights protestors…

  9. I don’t understand how you can’t see why fans don’t care about how much players are making, If they make a bunch of money that’s fine but people in Green Bay aren’t fans of the Green Bay Rodgers their fans of the Packers so why should they care about how much money they make?

  10. How would that fly with the salary cap? When you don’t even know gross revenue will be til months after the season is over

  11. leave some money on the table for the other players
    they beat their brains out, work their asses off
    and suffer far more physically than most QB’s
    overpay him and GB will never see a championship
    no matter good he is

  12. Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers doesn’t like me very much.

    Rodgers does not like a lot of people very much. That does not include himself. He likes himself very very much.

  13. I wish they would let him play the year first and I am a Packer fan. Front load any other deal coming up as much as possible and make sure these broken collar bones don’t lead to an early broadcasting career.

  14. First of all gross revenue is pretty meaningless with respect to how much money a business actually makes. Its only half of the story with out expenses. Profit is the key number.

    So you are going to base an athletes compensation on 34 million in profit? Good luck. How would that actually work anyways? Even if Rodgers was worth 100 million and laughably basing it on the revenue so you would just cap yourself out based on one player? How much of that revenue should be based on him vs everyone else? What about the coaches.

    All around one of the most embarrassing, unrealistic, unsubstantiated suggestions I think I have ever read.

  15. “(two under his contract and two under the franchise tag), at an average payout far lower than current market value.”

    doesnt the franchise tag prevent exactly this? average of the top 5 qbs or 120 percent of his previous year. with the way contracts are moving for qbs, and knowing who we have coming up in the next year or two, and knowing when Aaron finally hits free agency, he will be the most highest paid, i would let it go. tell em to dare me, too.

  16. Thank you screaminyellow…the Packers ARE NOT publicly traded.

    A percentage of the gross is unacceptable … In any business.

  17. Hey, I have a great idea!
    Why don’t all the Packer fans start a Go Fund me and pay Aaron out of your pocket.
    I’ll cheer you on from the comfort of my chair.
    Go Pack. Rah Rah Rah. Did deep into your pockets and pay the man.

    I just love reading about guys with all that money making themselves unhappy. Especially since no one put a gun to his head and force him to sign the LONG TERM contract he VOLUNTARILY signed.

  18. When the other 31 financial offices of NFL teams release their revenue/expense numbers, I think, Florio you can then make a statement of your desires of how to spend Green Bay’s gross revenues. Then bloviate on the budgets of the rest of the teams. Until then you know nothing.

  19. “Rodgers won’t say that, of course. He knows it wouldn’t be received very well by fans who are far more inclined (inexplicably)”

    It’s because a large majority of the fans don’t like a large majority of the players getting rich

  20. Does PFT not understand that this kind of deal would seriously undermine a team’s salary cap position? Rodgers was the highest paid QB when he signed his deal, knowing full well that other guys would sign bigger deals after him–and that he would be in line to set the bar again before he finally retires. He got all of that immediate security and in return the Packers got a long term solution at QB at what would become a better than average deal. The idea of pegging compensation to a percentage of the cap every year means a team never gets to spread some of that cap space to other positions…thus weakening the team even if the QB is elite.

  21. When are you going to give up your reporting job and start being an agent for these guys?? It seems like that is what you really want to do.

  22. Florio why do you stir the pot? First and foremost, Rodgers asking for. Piece of gross revenue ignores the cap. The cap is what it is. So let’s say Rodgers were to get 5% of gross revenue, in this case, $22.7 Million. Not a raise. If he asks for 10% it comes to be $45.4 Million. While it may seem just to you it screws the cap.

    Secondly, the guy just missed 9 games. Why should he get that much? Why do I side with owners over players? Because the player in this case gets extra millions based off of his linemen

  23. What in the world will you write about the week after Rodgers gets a new deal? You don’t care if he gets paid, just that you can write 10 blog posts a week on the subject. You’ve been on this train for 3 years and I’m sure you’ll be able to fire it up the next time a franchise qb comes close to the open market and passes up Rodgers.

  24. The Packers 34 mill profit is after every player is paid. I also happen to know bottom level teams profit is actually near 150 mill. And the Packers public numbers is an accounting farce so fans don’t see that 53 guys getting mauled split 150 mill, and one rich white guy ( or Pakistani guy if we’re talikibg Jags ) get 150 mill. Word is Jones Snyder, Mara May cleat 250 mill with local deals. Tepper sidnt pay 2.2 bill for a measly 30 million return.
    It’s comical how fans support owners, It’s almost like a hypnosis or something.

  25. Like this is ever going to happen. Anybody working for a privately held company, try this strategy. Walk into your boss’s office and ask for a percentage of sales or the company and see how far you get. Private companies were often started on a wish and a prayer and the reward for all the hard work and effort is the bottom line. An employee that doesn’t take the risk has no right to ask for the owner’s cut, even a percentage of it. If they want it that bad, let them start their own company. dumb idea.

  26. “He knows it wouldn’t be received very well by fans who are far more inclined (inexplicably) to side with the billionaires who don’t play the game over the millionaires who do.” – Mike Florio

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    Inexplicably?…This is one of those occasions when someone who’s really smart just doesn’t get it…let me help you Mike…Fans root for the team…the jersey…not the owners and not the players…just because it so happens the owners stick around a lot longer than the players doesn’t mean fans are rooting for the owners…Packers fans were Packers fans before Aaron Rodgers…and they’ll still be Packers fans after Aaron Rodgers…Packers fans want the team to win Superbowl…how the eff are they supposed to win the Superbowl paying one player too much money? Where is your evidence that that strategy works…go ahead and astonish us will ya?!?

  27. cheeseisfattening says:
    July 16, 2018 at 8:27 pm
    Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers doesn’t like me very much.

    Rodgers does not like a lot of people very much. That does not include himself. He likes himself very very much.

    I guess if you’re a Viking fan, you have learned already not to like yourself.

  28. What’s the rush? Rodgers knows it takes more than one player to secure a victory beyond the NFCCG. Sometimes it takes some teams longer to learn that lesson than others. Let the Packers build around him first, before enhancing n oreads good dusting contract. The Vikings now think Cousins is their “Rodgers,” knowing full-well the quarterback is key and any price, any price, is worth it to secure a good one.

    The only reason the Viking trolls are here barking (as usual,) is because they wish Rodgers played for them. They got Cousins instead.

    Good luck with that.

  29. Florio: “…fans who are far more inclined (inexplicably) to side with the billionaires who don’t play the game over the millionaires who do.”
    No Florio, it’s not billionaires vs. millionaires, it’s player salary vs player salary cap percentage.
    Paying one player too high of a percentage of the salary cap means that you can’t afford to put enough quality players around him to build a winning team.

  30. All we hear about (from Mike) is how the players deserve more and the owners deserve less because they’re rich. If I read that right, the Packers organization (and I would assume other franchises) made only around $30M in profit. Why on earth should an employee make more than the organization itself?

  31. Florio you and Andrew are hitting the Crown and Coke a little too early today. Until and unless they get rid of the salary cap, this is an untenable deal.

    But even if they did, there is no owner alive that’d agree to this kind of deal. And there are no rich owners whose coffers are getting stuffed in Green Bay with those profits. Surprised actually thanks it’s not more.

  32. People seem to forget Thompson went out on a limb and paid Rodgers $60 million after only a few starts in the NFL. People at the time thought that was crazy. Stop acting like the Packers haven’t treated him well during his time in GB.

  33. We fans are most certainly NOT siding with the owners. We want our team to be competitive. Simple as that. It’s hard to be competitive when one single player (out of 53) eats up 25% of the salary cap. I’m all for getting paid what you are worth, but at some point you have to field a good defense, kick returner, and have offensive line depth if you want to compete for a championship.

  34. That would come with some risk too right? Say there is a another strike and the league doesnt fully recover. Or if these new rules lower the viewing rate. I’d take the sure thing. Not to mention he is one season ending injury away from being considered unreliable.

  35. I want to see Rodgers get a contract tied to a percentage of the cap, maybe even one that floats.

    For instance, if Matt Ryan is making $30M under a 177.2M cap, he’s earning 16.93% of the cap. Pay Rodgers 17.00% of the cap annually OR the percentage of the cap that makes him the highest paid QB by .50%, whichever is greater. So if the cap goes up to 180M, he gets $30.6M. If under that same cap, another QB signs a deal for $31M (17.22%), Rodgers would then earn 17.72% of the cap for $31.89M.

    What would the Packers get in return besides arguably the best QB in the NFL? Make it a year to year team option, executable by the 3rd day of the league year. Give the Packers complete control: either they keep Rodgers every year as the highest paid QB, or they cut him with no further salary to carry, early enough in the season he can go elsewhere.

    Let’s shake up these contracts and see what happens. Can you see a team like Cleveland with an obscene amount of cap space front load a multi-year contract just to mess with the Packers? Or the Saints pony up $35M for Brees in year 1, fully guaranteed; to get him to take $17M in year 2? Could be really interesting.

  36. What are you talking about Florio? These guys are employees. Not business partners. They should be handsomely compensated for their contribution but let’s not get silly. Your suggestion is just that.

  37. Why is every commentator bending over backwards to figure out a way to make sure Rodgers is never leapfrogged? That he is the highest paid QB every year he is in the league? He’s not God. He’s not even Tom Brady.

  38. Why are Viking fans so obsessed with Rodgers personal life whom he does or doesn’t get along with?

    Would this be circumventing salary cap illegal?

    He wants a contract like the elite NBA stars, with player options but that’s a completely different realm

  39. Florio – stop making digs at the fans like you don’t understand where they are coming from. When one guy takes up an enormous percentage of the salary cap, that equals less available funds to field a competitive football team. PERIOD. That in and of itself is the main sticking point most fans have with these already exorbitant contracts. A fundamental fact you – time and time again – fail to recognize.

  40. Labeling them billionaires and millionaires is a typical petty liberal move.

    Question, Florio. If you took away pro sports, do you think there would still be more billionaires or millionaires?

  41. I’m a Packers fan, but really, $20 million isn’t enough? Yes, I understand market value but the money is getting really whacked.
    It’s getting near time anyway when Rodgers gets ‘Farved”, as in, hire the next QB. I would have him sit on the contract two more years,(he signed it)then franchise him twice and call it a day.
    It’s silly money really. Then you look at ticket prices for the average fan and say, ‘this isn’t worth it”.

  42. …fans who are far more inclined (inexplicably) to side with the billionaires who don’t play the game over the millionaires who do…

    Fans tend to actually not care how much the players make, or how much the owners make. Fans “side” with their own interest, and their own interest is in having their teams be good and interesting and fun to watch. Packers’ fans’ interest is in Aaron Rodgers continuing to QB their team and having sufficient talent around him that the team can perform effectively on the field. None of them really care how many 000s are in his paycheck, or what the corporation makes. There are rules in place that dictate what percentage of the revenues must go to the players, and what percentage of the revenues can go to the players. Within those rules, the fans’ interests is only that a) Rodgers gets enough to stay while b) leaving enough to pay other talented players around him.

  43. Hey Mike — I don’t buy this issue. I’m in a profession (like Rogers, but not athletic)), have been doing it a long time, and am heading toward the end of my career. I’ve done fine (like Rogers), have no concerns about money. Lots of people doing what I do make way more than I do and are not better at it than me (I see it every day).

    I don’t really care. I’m more focused on continuing to work at a high level. The rest takes care of itself.

    What we earn is not some sort of scoreboard. It does not define who we are. Once we reach the point where there’s enough for whatever the future holds, that concern should fade into the background. There’s way more important things in life.

    I suspect Rogers sees that, too. He is a smart guy (from Cal!).

  44. I don’t think it is stupid at all. In my world it is called “profit sharing”, which has been fairly standard in the corporate world for a long time. This is a publicly traded company, I think it is appropriate. Plus sorry Pats fans – he is the best QB in the league. Just doesn’t have the best team. In any way shape or form.

  45. Rodgers is only as good as his team’s defense. And for seven straight seasons the defense has been crap.

  46. Why would Green Bay pay him a % of revenue? Packers games are going to sell out with or without Rodgers at QB. What else are people going to do on Sundays during the football season? Sure cow tipping is fun, but those in Green Bay can do that any day of the week.

  47. Always interesting to see people say “Leave some money on the table for other talent.”
    I see the argument two ways (and I can’t argue against either)

    1. Screw you, you wouldn’t leave say $5000 a year for Steve in accounting at your job. Why should a quarterback leave a chunk of his salary on the table for other people?

    2. He will likely make close to 150+ million dollars in salary and add on endorsements. What is say $8 million dollars to someone who has that kind of cash? Is having $158 million or $150 million that much of a hardship? At what point do you need more?

  48. Pack only made $34 million in profit? Doesn’t seem like much…

    PS We’ll see if Rodgers wants another ring or wants the $$$$ more.

  49. Doesn’t Robert Kraft ‘invest’ in TB12???? That’s how they really pay Brady!!!

  50. I’m sorry, but the Cheese Cheater is no Brett Fav-ray. Fav-ray didn’t cheat by exploiting the cheese cheater loophole to get free plays and points by taking advantage of defensive pre-snap penalties. It is thus that the Cheese Cheater should NEVER get any profit sharing.

    Once again Florio is on the wrong side of an issue – who cares if the Cheese Cheater loathes you?

  51. Gross revenue is a mirage. Paying anyone a percentage of dollars coming in, without consideration of dollars going out would be utterly foolish. These billionaire owners didn’t become billionaires by making foolish money decisions such as that.

    Rodgers contract situation is like anything in life. There’s always someone smarter, someone more skilled, someone with a better job– whatever the case. For Rodgers, he could sign a #1 deal, and next season another (perhaps inferior) QB will secure a greater contract.

    If you want that latitude, make more of the contract performance based.

  52. To become highest paid player would be $30.1Mil/yr average. Math isn’t too difficult: 3 yr extension (thru 2022) for $140Mil. $57.5Mil SB (new money in his pocket at signing). Annual salary increase of $0.1Mil: $20.56 in ’18, $21.1 in ’19, $21.2 in ’20… Last 3 year of contract have roster bonuses of $5Mil, $6Mil and $7.5Mil. Rodgers becomes highest paid player, gets $57.5Mil new money today, and the team has 3 years to find a suitable replacement (similar to the Favre situation) before cap # approaches $40Mil. If they can’t do better than a Hundley-type replacement then the Packers deserve to pay $40Mil/yr for an aging QB.

  53. I dont think its good to ask fir a percentage of the gross when his salary counts as a percentage of the cap. Since those are two distinct and separate things its possible for the numbers to get out of sync with each other.

  54. screamingyellowzonkers says:
    July 16, 2018 at 8:38 pm
    It’s not a publicly traded business.
    Good grief.
    You can’t buy packers stock on the open market.
    There is NO ticker symbol to buy packers stock.

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    I think they do qualify though and thats why the laws of disclosure kick in like they do.

  55. Show me another industry that pays its employees based solely on gross revenue. One may receive bonuses based on sales performance(s) or commissions. However, that is normally supplemental to a base income. Mr. Florio, should you be paid in that manner?

  56. If you’re going to just pretend the NFL doesn’t have a salary cap to pitch this crazy payment idea, why stop there? The next article can be about how much Rodgers would be worth if he could transport the football Star Trek-style into the arms of his receivers.

  57. I’m sorry, but the Cheese Cheater is no Brett Fav-ray. Fav-ray didn’t cheat by exploiting the cheese cheater loophole to get free plays and points by taking advantage of defensive pre-snap penalties.
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    Totally lame.

    Who is Rodgers cheating?

    Undisciplined defenders too sloppy to stay in their lane?

    As if their coaches don’t prep them for that very thing every time they see Rodgers on the schedule.

    SURELY you can do better..

  58. logast says:
    July 17, 2018 at 9:13 am

    Show me another industry that pays its employees based solely on gross revenue. One may receive bonuses based on sales performance(s) or commissions. However, that is normally supplemental to a base income. Mr. Florio, should you be paid in that manner?

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    Hollywood, for a while, was paying its top box office stars, gross points.

    That pretty much has stropped, however, because talent was making money from the first dollar in, while the studio which has taken all the risk on the picture is still paying off the costs of the production, prints and advertising, etc.

    So gross profit participation with no risk in the venture, has come to be seen as a bridge too far.

    (For what it’s worth, Rogers is a top box office star.)

  59. Pack only made $34 million in profit? Doesn’t seem like much…
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    Because they continue to dump truckloads of money into Lambeau grounds improvements.

  60. my_old_name_was_offensive says:
    Inexplicably?…This is one of those occasions when someone who’s really smart just doesn’t get it…

    –Really smart?

  61. How about the reason he can’t ask for a piece of gross $, is that it would violate the salary cap, where hard numbers for the year have to be presented. The NFL doesn’t allow that level of guesstimation in their contracts. You’d have teams contesting their own gross receipts to change teh metrics of the deal.

  62. YEAH SURE why not…..let’s promote giving an even bigger piece of the pie, to these greedy players.
    I still wonder why it is that a football PLAYER, is so highly compensated, for playing a game. Man, I wish some of these other TRULY important professions could get in on this.

  63. It’s all just monopoly money anyway. He can’t possibly spend what he’s already made, unless he’s simply foolish. It doesn’t matter if he’s the top paid QB or the third highest paid.

  64. aarons444 says:

    July 17, 2018 at 10:21 am

    Pack only made $34 million in profit? Doesn’t seem like much…
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    Because they continue to dump truckloads of money into Lambeau grounds improvements.
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    When do the high school metal bleachers get replaced with actual stadium seats? I get that the field has history but it feels like watching Sheboygan and Wausau when you are at the game.

  65. stellarperformance says:

    July 16, 2018 at 11:54 pm

    What’s the rush? Rodgers knows it takes more than one player to secure a victory beyond the NFCCG. Sometimes it takes some teams longer to learn that lesson than others. Let the Packers build around him first, before enhancing n oreads good dusting contract. The Vikings now think Cousins is their “Rodgers,” knowing full-well the quarterback is key and any price, any price, is worth it to secure a good one.

    The only reason the Viking trolls are here barking (as usual,) is because they wish Rodgers played for them. They got Cousins instead.

    Good luck with that.
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    For the 1st time since favre, the Vikings are set at QB. Cousins doesn’t have to be Rodgers, the Vikings are a very balanced team.

    The Vikings have stability at QB and that scares you. It drips off of your posts.

  66. How about the reason he can’t ask for a piece of gross $, is that it would violate the salary cap, where hard numbers for the year have to be presented. The NFL doesn’t allow that level of guesstimation in their contracts. You’d have teams contesting their own gross receipts to change teh metrics of the deal.
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    Maybe its time they do.

    Why not have some kind of Bird-exemption?

    Occasionally a player transcends the field. Favre, Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Barry, Deion, Reggie.. why not allow teams an exemption every so often to retain these guys, rather than letting them move on as most of those guys had to do at the end?!

  67. The Packers have sold out every single game for nearly 6 decades now…so it can’t be said that Rodgers is the most responsible for their profits.

    Basically Florio is asking the Packers to do something that no team would ever actually do because it would never work. The cap is what determines salaries, not gross revenue. It wouldn’t be good for Rodgers or the Packers to have a gross revenue deal because it would have the propensity of completely destroy the team. One season they could have to cut their left tackle just because of a deal like that. It’s not something that would ever happen.

  68. Does Minnesota still require visiting fans to purchase one of the preseason games in order to get the regular season game ticket? Asking for a friend who thinks it’s pathetic and isn’t true.

  69. billtetley53 says:
    July 17, 2018 at 12:42 pm
    For the 1st time since favre, the Vikings are set at QB. Cousins doesn’t have to be Rodgers, the Vikings are a very balanced team. The Vikings have stability at QB and that scares you. It drips off of your posts.
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    They’ll be set at QB if they still like Cousins at Thanksgiving. Then you can tell us all about it. Until then, it’s more wishing, hoping, and praying, as usual.

  70. aarons444 says:
    July 17, 2018 at 12:56 pm
    How about the reason he can’t ask for a piece of gross $, is that it would violate the salary cap, where hard numbers for the year have to be presented. The NFL doesn’t allow that level of guesstimation in their contracts. You’d have teams contesting their own gross receipts to change teh metrics of the deal.
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    Maybe its time they do.

    Why not have some kind of Bird-exemption?

    Occasionally a player transcends the field. Favre, Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Barry, Deion, Reggie.. why not allow teams an exemption every so often to retain these guys, rather than letting them move on as most of those guys had to do at the end?!
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    I don’t think any of those players left because their original team couldn’t afford to keep him. The Packers wanted to move on to Rodgers. The Colts wanted to move on to Luck. Brady and Rodgers are still there and will never go anywhere else. Barry wanted to move on from the Lions. I don’t remember Deion’s circumstances but he played for five different teams. God told Reggie to go to Green Bay.

  71. I don’t think any of those players left because their original team couldn’t afford to keep him. The Packers wanted to move on to Rodgers.
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    I’ll argue that one from here to the end of the world.

    If that WAS their plan, why all the Favre-drama? The could have moved on with at least half the uproar and frenzy… and frankly, probably with a better deal.

    I don’t think they were convinced in what they had.

  72. Why should Rodgers be the highest paid QB just because Packers fan base and the media thinks he should be.

    From a business investment meaning risk vs reward, the Packers should be very careful he is 34 years old and will be more prone to injury than ever now simply because of his age. Below a list of his injuries

    Oct 15, 2017 NFL Shoulder Clavicle Fracture Rodgers returned for 1 game before sitting out the final 2 weeks.

    Dec 11, 2016 NFL Leg Calf Strain Rodgers’ injury wasn’t considered serious.

    Dec 21, 2014 NFL Leg Calf Tear Rodgers reportedly had a “slight” tear in his calf.

    Nov 4, 2013 NFL Shoulder Clavicle Fracture Rodgers’ injury forced him to miss the next 7 games.

    Dec 12, 2010 NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Rodgers missed 1 game with his 2nd concussion of 2010.

    Oct 10, 2010 NFL Head Cranial Concussion Grade 1 Rodgers didn’t miss a game following his Week 5 concussion.

    Nov 19, 2006 NFL Pedal Foot Fracture Rodgers was placed on IR after suffering a foot fracture.

    I still think he doesn’t get what he wants in Green Bay and will end up with the Patriots – after Brady retires. One thing you have to remember about the QBs mentioned in the article. They are all younger than A A Ron and those teams in essence are investing in the future. Packers management is also cautious I will be willing to bet because they do not know how this collarbone has healed. I know if it was MY money I’d think twice.

  73. aarons444 says:
    July 17, 2018 at 3:28 pm
    I don’t think any of those players left because their original team couldn’t afford to keep him. The Packers wanted to move on to Rodgers.
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    I’ll argue that one from here to the end of the world.

    If that WAS their plan, why all the Favre-drama? The could have moved on with at least half the uproar and frenzy… and frankly, probably with a better deal.

    I don’t think they were convinced in what they had.
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    I agree with you 100%. They were scared to death of what Rodgers was going to do, which is why they drafted Brian Brohm in the second round and Matt Flynn in the seventh round that year. My point is just that they didn’t get rid of Brett because they couldn’t afford him; he retired and put them in a bad position when he unretired. At that point they said we may as well go with this Rodgers kid because we can’t trust Favre.

  74. stellarperformance says:

    July 17, 2018 at 2:19 pm

    billtetley53 says:
    July 17, 2018 at 12:42 pm
    For the 1st time since favre, the Vikings are set at QB. Cousins doesn’t have to be Rodgers, the Vikings are a very balanced team. The Vikings have stability at QB and that scares you. It drips off of your posts.
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    They’ll be set at QB if they still like Cousins at Thanksgiving. Then you can tell us all about it. Until then, it’s more wishing, hoping, and praying, as usual.
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    It certainly is redundant, wishing, hoping and praying by you.

    Your wishing, hoping, and praying he does not put up the stats he has the last few years. If he does, GB is in trouble.

    You tool boxes on here defend Aaron on 1 hand when it comes to comparing him and Brady……” Brady has the better team et cetera. But when it comes to Cousins, he doesn’t get the same benefit.

    It’s always HE has a losing record against winning teams.

    This happened 9 years ago when Favre signed with Minnesota.

    Rodgers does no wrong, he didn’t have a good team around him, but Favre? He lost all those playoff games single handed!

    You guys are the biggest hypocrites in sports fandom.

    Minnesota has a top 10 QB for the 1st time in nearly 10 years, Cook is back, top 5 WR duo ,Top 10 TE, # 1 returning defense and added Sheldon Richardson.

    NO, Redundant, you are scared, you haven’t been this scared since Favre was here. I remember you saying the same things back then( who is surprised, certainly not me , you broken record).

    I’m sure you filled your packer underoos back then, and the same thing is happening now.

    A packers fans biggest nightmare is the Vikings finally winning a Super bowl, Especially since it’s been 8 years since GB did. I’m not predicting the Vikings win, too many variables.

    Your wishing and hoping aside, they are going to be a very tough out.

  75. billtetley53 says:
    July 17, 2018 at 4:09 pm
    stellarperformance says:

    July 17, 2018 at 2:19 pm

    billtetley53 says:
    July 17, 2018 at 12:42 pm
    For the 1st time since favre, the Vikings are set at QB. Cousins doesn’t have to be Rodgers, the Vikings are a very balanced team. The Vikings have stability at QB and that scares you. It drips off of your posts.
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    They’ll be set at QB if they still like Cousins at Thanksgiving. Then you can tell us all about it. Until then, it’s more wishing, hoping, and praying, as usual.
    =============================
    It certainly is redundant, wishing, hoping and praying by you.

    Your wishing, hoping, and praying he does not put up the stats he has the last few years. If he does, GB is in trouble.

    You tool boxes on here defend Aaron on 1 hand when it comes to comparing him and Brady……” Brady has the better team et cetera. But when it comes to Cousins, he doesn’t get the same benefit.

    It’s always HE has a losing record against winning teams.

    This happened 9 years ago when Favre signed with Minnesota.

    Rodgers does no wrong, he didn’t have a good team around him, but Favre? He lost all those playoff games single handed!

    You guys are the biggest hypocrites in sports fandom.

    Minnesota has a top 10 QB for the 1st time in nearly 10 years, Cook is back, top 5 WR duo ,Top 10 TE, # 1 returning defense and added Sheldon Richardson.

    NO, Redundant, you are scared, you haven’t been this scared since Favre was here. I remember you saying the same things back then( who is surprised, certainly not me , you broken record).

    I’m sure you filled your packer underoos back then, and the same thing is happening now.

    A packers fans biggest nightmare is the Vikings finally winning a Super bowl, Especially since it’s been 8 years since GB did. I’m not predicting the Vikings win, too many variables.

    Your wishing and hoping aside, they are going to be a very tough out.

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    Don’t try to make sense with stella, he is the tylawpick6 of the packers.

  76. millertime953 says:
    July 17, 2018 at 2:14 pm
    Does Minnesota still require visiting fans to purchase one of the preseason games in order to get the regular season game ticket? Asking for a friend who thinks it’s pathetic and isn’t true

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    Does green bay still sell worthless stock for $250.00 a pop .Asking for a friend who thinks it’s pathetic.

  77. I agree with you 100%. They were scared to death of what Rodgers was going to do, which is why they drafted Brian Brohm in the second round and Matt Flynn in the seventh round that year.
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    I kind of get it, with Favre being retired at that point.

    2005 and 2006 Rodgers showed next to nothing, landed on IR twice as I recall.. not that he was going to play with Favre there.

    But 2007 he tore up the Cowboys when Favre went down. Not that mop up duty in a blowout is a great measuring stick. But there were signs of life at least.

    But Brohm.. OMG.. what a disaster..

    Get two better players in place of Brohm and Justin Harrell.. do the Packers go back-to-back in 2011?? UGH!

  78. flviking says:
    July 17, 2018 at 5:56 pm
    Does green bay still sell worthless stock for $250.00 a pop .Asking for a friend who thinks it’s pathetic.
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    No. All 360,000 souvenir stock certificates (suitable for framing!) sold around the world are all taken. Around the world. That’s key. It’s kinda funny, because I’m guessing the Vikings couldn’t give away that many ballpoint pens for free if they tried.

  79. stellarperformance says:
    July 17, 2018 at 6:22 pm
    flviking says:
    July 17, 2018 at 5:56 pm
    Does green bay still sell worthless stock for $250.00 a pop .Asking for a friend who thinks it’s pathetic.
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    No. All 360,000 souvenir stock certificates (suitable for framing!) sold around the world are all taken. Around the world. That’s key. It’s kinda funny, because I’m guessing the Vikings couldn’t give away that many ballpoint pens for free if they tried

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    “I’m guessing” you do that a lot.

  80. stellarperformance says:
    July 17, 2018 at 6:22 pm

    It’s kinda funny, because I’m guessing the Vikings couldn’t give away that many ballpoint pens for free if they tried.
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    The Vikings don’t hand out ballpoint pens. Titanium surgical screws on the other hand are free of charge.

  81. Florio – you continue to fail to understand that 1) these teams are investments and 2) A salary cap exists, so if one player breaks the bank, other players will make less money.

    You say you are advocating for the players, but you are really only advocating for the superstars, at the expense of the average players.

  82. Words cannot mask how badly Viking trolls want what we have and want to be us. What else could possibly explain their infatuation and obsessive need to pay attention to all things Packer? Do they actually think their toothless insults and putdowns have any effect whatsoever on the most passionate fans of the greatest franchise in the history of the game?

    They say those that hate you, actually love you the most. That must be it.

    It shows.

  83. djstat says:
    July 16, 2018 at 9:58 pm
    Florio why do you stir the pot? First and foremost, Rodgers asking for. Piece of gross revenue ignores the cap. The cap is what it is. So let’s say Rodgers were to get 5% of gross revenue, in this case, $22.7 Million. Not a raise. If he asks for 10% it comes to be $45.4 Million. While it may seem just to you it screws the cap.

    Secondly, the guy just missed 9 games. Why should he get that much? Why do I side with owners over players? Because the player in this case gets extra millions based off of his linemen

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    And the owners get their money from ALL OF THE PLAYERS

    YOUR POINT

  84. When was the last SB winner with a QB taking up a huge part of the team’s payroll?

  85. When was the last SB winner with a QB taking up a huge part of the team’s payroll?
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    2014 – Brady, $19,000,000
    2015 – Manning, same

  86. @ stellarperformance
    You use the term “Gross Revenue”as an example. That’s not acceptable and incorrect.
    The latest Packer financials show “gross revenue” was $441 million.

    Don’t confuse “revenue sharing” with gross revenue. NFL Revenue sharing was $255 million.
    Salary cap for 2018 is $177 mil plus any carry over.

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