Report: Final Le’Veon Bell offer had $10M fully guaranteed

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When a report of a Steelers offer of five years and $70 million to running back Le'Veon Bell surfaced on Monday, there was no word of how much of that money was fully guaranteed.

Bell’s agent Adisa Barkari didn’t say in a Tuesday radio interview, but said the total value didn’t matter nearly as much as how much of the contract was fully guaranteed. According to a report from Ian Rapoport of NFL Media, there wasn’t a lot of it guaranteed in the Steelers’ final offer.

Rapoport reports that a $10 million signing bonus was the only fully guaranteed portion of the contract. He adds that Bell stood to make $33 million over the first two years in a “rolling guaranteed structure” and $45 million over the first three years of the deal.

As long as the Steelers don’t rescind the franchise tag, Bell is guaranteed $14.5 million this year by reporting to the team before the first game of the regular season so it’s not hard to understand why he’d be looking for a bigger upfront commitment than the one the Steelers were reportedly ready to make this offseason.

77 responses to “Report: Final Le’Veon Bell offer had $10M fully guaranteed

  1. I hope steelers wait until the last possible second and rescind. Next man up. Unlike Kirk, I dont think Leveon’s gamble will pay off for himself

  2. Seems like a lowball offer, but tomorrow the other side of the fence will say 35 million was guaranteed. Who knows, let’s just start a go fund me page for the player and the ownership.

  3. Why would you sign a longer term contract with less guaranteed money than the 1 year franchise tag you are already under? The Steelers don’t want to commit to Bell for longer than a year and they have him locked in. Of course he will make it as painful for the Steelers as he can afford now. Good luck getting performance out of him come playoff time.

  4. daburgher says:
    July 17, 2018 at 5:19 pm
    I hope steelers wait until the last possible second and rescind. Next man up. Unlike Kirk, I dont think Leveon’s gamble will pay off for himself

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    So does Bell. If he’s cut he will be scooped up in a heartbeat for much closer to what he wants.

  5. $10M guaranteed isn’t jack squat. Now he’s got $14.5M guaranteed THIS year alone.

  6. terripet says:
    July 17, 2018 at 5:28 pm
    Pure greed he will regret it.

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    I don’t understand the greed comments. He’s under a franchise tag he didn’t ask to be put under. He wants to be a free agent. Then the team seemingly low balled him on guaranteed money to a level that would make no sense accepting. So now he will try and stay as healthy as he can and play the best he can so they he can maybe get the big contract next year. That’s not greed. That’s just smart.

  7. It sounds like if he started this season he would have gotten $16.5M and then it would have rolled over to that next season, $12M in year 3 and $35M over the last two years, which he almost certainly never would have seen.

    Basically, a series of 1-year deals. He was smart to turn it down.

  8. has this clown completed an entire season healthy? i’m a team first guy. the individuals that think they’re above the franchise are toxic and need to be dealt away. quite audacious to think he’s owed something if he can’t stay healthy. can’t make the club from the tub, bruh!

  9. Isn’t the signing bonus PLUS the year to year guaranteed amount usually what is reported as the “guaranteed amount” in a player contract? Yet in this article only the signing bonus is being presented as the guaranteed amount. I guess it is true that only the signing bonus is “fully guaranteed” but usually the reported guaranteed amount includes all the yearly guaratees.

    It seems like all sides are playing games with terminology trying to spin the facts. Its not lying but it sure feels like it. Just give it to us straight!

  10. So 45 million over 3 years. 33 guaranteed against injury, etc and 10 million fully guaranteed in a signing bonus
    I don’t see the issue.

  11. If the Steelers leaked out that they offered him $70 mil to make Bell look like the bad guy but it’s true that they only offered him $10 in guarantees, then they will be the one’s looking like the idiots.

  12. What a flipping insult. Steelers fans are the most ignorant fanbase in all of sports. Why is Bell greedy in that he’s guaranteed 14.5 mill but would consider the teams offer of 10 millon? Unless that was a fabrication leaked by Bell’s camp to save face that is a joke man. At least Bell said we came close but I will have my best year for you fans of Pittsburgh. Then the team leaks the deal destroying any semblance of good will Bell created with his aww shucks we both tried tweet. I hope Bell goes out there and dogs it this year and costs these clowns a few games then cashes in like no other rb has before which he will. You idiots may not think he is anything special but you will see, I hope he comes back to that armpit in Western PA and sticks it up your nose! #ROONEYCHEAPSKATES

  13. bullcharger says:
    July 17, 2018 at 5:33 pm
    terripet says:
    July 17, 2018 at 5:28 pm
    Pure greed he will regret it.

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    I don’t understand the greed comments. He’s under a franchise tag he didn’t ask to be put under.
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    Consider the source, has anyone ever been able to make sense of a littlepet post?

  14. Bell should be pushing for a trade; this isn’t going to turn into a Cousins’-type deal. And the Steelers definitely will not tag him a 3rd time. He’s, what, 27? Next year he will be a 28-year-old RB with a lot of miles on him. I would think it unlikely that he’d see any team coming at him with a 3-year deal after this season. What would it take to acquire him? A 2 and a 3 or 4? And a team willing to pay him. But, in the end, the Steelers will, given Rothlisberger’s age, probably keep him and let him walk.

  15. The smart move for Bell at this point would be to hold out and force a trade.

    Yes, he risks losing the 14.5 franchise tag this year (or some portion of it), but he’d easily make that up in the new deal and he’d avoid the ultimate disaster of an injury this season which would derail the big free agent contract he is seeking.

    Seems like a no brainer.

  16. “If he’s cut he will be scooped up in a heartbeat for much closer to what he wants.”

    Unlikely unless its by the Browns or another bottom feeder who won’t sniff the playoffs. Though it seems Bell doesn’t care about playoffs or rings, only the paychecks so maybe that will be just fine with him.

  17. Yes he is a valuable player. Being suspended twice already and one bad test away from a year suspension is the 800lb gorilla in the room. When teams are getting players like Kamera, Hunt and Cook in the 2nd and 3rd round it is just good business. Steelers management has their hands tied really. Bell is getting a dose of reality.

  18. There’s something odd about this report. How can it be the Steelers offered $4.5 million LESS in guarantees than what he was ALREADY guaranteed if/when he signs his contract? If the Steelers truly offered that, how can they expect him to agree to it? Why not just let him go if that’s what you were going to do? If Bell’s side came out with this information and it’s shading the truth, shame on them, nobody will ever be able to believe them again…if they aren’t telling the truth, at least make up a lie that’s believeable. Regardless, the relationship seems beyond repair, they might as well end it now and either trade him or rescind their offer, as wrong as it is to rescind it at this late date. It’s too bad, he’s the most productive running back in the league.

  19. This so called offer is an insult to Le’Veon Bell. As an individual who’s been railing against him over the last few weeks, I’m adult enough to say that I was wrong. His franchise tag of $14.5MM is more than the $10MM in the new deal would guarantee him. If he’s smart, he’ll hurry up, sign the franchise tag tender an stop threatening to be a no show; he has no leverage here! When the report was leaked of a 5 yr $70MM deal, many of us shook our collective heads at Le’Veon, assuming that he’d be guaranteed at least $30MM in mew money, but this is shameful. The Steelers need to be ashamed of themselves, not because they didn’t give him what he wants, but ashamed of actually calling this insulting foolishness a contract offer!

  20. hasnivek says:
    July 17, 2018 at 6:02 pm
    His 2018 salary could also be considered as a guarantee, because its hard to see him being cut after getting 10 million.

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    That makes sense… but signing up for a long term contract with very little guaranteed money means that he can be cut and not paid at any time, but he can’t leave on his own. He loses all the power and just has to play out the contract and hope his level doesn’t dip due to injury etc. At this point, signing up for 1 year is a better bet because someone will guarantee some cash for him next year.

  21. OMG… and here we thought the New England Patriots were cheapskates lol

    Not to mention Brandin Cooks just got an $80M deal — WITH FEWER CAREER TDs — than Big Blue’s own O-B-J

    #NoRespect

  22. I wonder why you all always fall for the okeydoke every time an NFL team leaks contract numbers after they fail to sign a player. Every time. I was on here defending not Bell but sound negotiating logic and half of you were responding emotionally about greedy players. It may sound like I’m gloating but actually it’s frankly a little disappointing that some of the posters who I recognize have been posting here for years keep falling for this. Casual fans who don’t know how NFL contracts and teams work have an excuse.

  23. Only the signing bonus was guaranteed? Really?

    What’s he done or what do the Steelers “think” he’s involved in to deserve this kind of treatment?

  24. I’m sorry but these clubs have to be absolute idiots to give any RB big guarantees. You might as well open up the toilet and throw your money in and flush.
    No problem paying these guys huge money in incentives but they gotta stay healthy to get paid.
    Sorry NFLPA and union junkies. It’s just business…

  25. Grid assassin $10 million isn’t jack squat.

    You’re a blind fanboy. You’ll never make that in your lifetime. You sound like an immature child who’s never worked a day in your life, doesn’t have any responsibilities like pay rent and bills, etc. Only a fool would say what you said. Lol smh

  26. this reminds of an old song, nobody’s right when everybody’s wrong;

    neither side is telling the full truth so it’s hard to find sympathy for either;

    the plain facts we do know are Bell is getting uncomfortably close to 30 and has a LOT of miles on the tread;

    sure the warning white stripes are not showing on the tyres yet, but 300-400 touches a year for the last three or four seasons does not bode well for anyone making a long-term investment;

  27. I don’t think any team is going to pay a running back $15 plus million a year. Keep him, rescind, can you even trade a franchised player? Anyways, there’s a new OC and even losing a talent like Bell, he can adjust accordingly. It doesn’t mean that they can’t find a roster filler at far less than what he’s asking.

  28. daburgher says:
    July 17, 2018 at 5:19 pm
    I hope steelers wait until the last possible second and rescind. Next man up. Unlike Kirk, I dont think Leveon’s gamble will pay off for himself

    ___________

    Yeah, that’ll make free agents line up to go there.

    By the end of the season, he’d of made 26.6 million over the last 2 years, and will be an UFA…..seems like it has already worked out for him

  29. The NFL Players Union needs to renegotiate the franchise tag because owners are abusing it. The franchise tag should only be allowed once, then after that, a player is an unrestricted free-agent. Otherwise owners are reaping the benefits of the prime years of a player without giving them what the “free market” woukd otherwise yield in compensation across the leage. NFL careers are short…especially at the RB position and players need to cash in while they can.

  30. IF Bell had taken what the Steelers offered him LAST year, he’d already have made $30M by the time this season ends. This way he only gets $26.6M. The Steelers offered him even more this time around and he turned them down. His agent is a buffoon.

  31. I bet it was the 14.5 this year and 10 next year that totalled 24.5 guranteed.

    Only guranteeing 10 million doesn’t make sense.

  32. What’s the problem! It’s business people. I for one want to see LBell stay with the Steelers long term but The steelers get bell for another year and bell is getting 14.5 mil for another year. Unless Bell comes down on his demands, the Steelers are only signing him on their terms. There have been many all time Steelers that didn’t break the bank with the Steelers and either will Bell. Simple as that.

  33. browniesfansince1969 says:
    July 17, 2018 at 6:20 pm
    There’s something odd about this report. How can it be the Steelers offered $4.5 million LESS in guarantees than what he was ALREADY guaranteed if/when he signs his contract?
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    With the possibility of a year long suspension hanging over Bell’s head if he gets popped again it’s possible the contract was largely structured around per game bonuses and incentives with only a signing bonus guaranteed.

  34. DC4L
    So badd blood here since the ’70’s rivalry began
    BUT
    If I were Bell I’d count my costs now & wouldn’t dare risk serious injury for a team that slaps me in the face vs all he’s done this far for them

    Bell deserves much more & a list season will be recompensed with a new team
    Just hope & pray it’s not the NFC east

  35. I don’t think the man is greedy, he just wants to get as much as he can. However, the amount he wants is unrealistic. Every dollar a team spends on him is one less that team can spend on another. Being 26, 27 after this year he may have 2 good years left. WHY would a team want to commit that much to a position where players are often injured, to a player that will be 2 years from the Running backs brick wall?

  36. I’ll be surprised if he can get a contract for $45M over three years after the season is over. And if he does it’ll be with some loser team who is going nowhere. Whatever Bell thinks he’s worth, I get the feeling it’s a lot more than what teams are going to be willing to pay. I’m tired of hearing about this guy. I wish the season was over already so we can hear him whine about how none of the offers he’s getting are worth what the Steelers were willing to give him. Then he’ll probably beg the Steelers for it. I doubt they’d do it then. I think they are tired of his act.

  37. The next highest paid RB is at $8.6, and there is concern on him being one more concussion from retirement.
    With Bell walking the drug test ban tight rope and at age 27, I don’t see why so many think he will ‘make just as much or more’ as a free agent.
    He’s a RB. A great one yes. But still a RB. Each year two teams make the SB with lesser backs who make much less money.
    Pittsburgh is negotiating more against his inflated franchise tag number then his true market value. Bell is smart to take advantage of this.

  38. Great and fair. Can’t commit more than 3 years to 26 yr old rb. Won’t get anything close to that next year on open market. More per year than I predicted. About spot on guaranteed

  39. dallasfan76 says:

    July 17, 2018 at 7:57 pm

    The NFL Players Union needs to renegotiate the franchise tag because owners are abusing it. The franchise tag should only be allowed once, then after that, a player is an unrestricted free-agent. Otherwise owners are reaping the benefits of the prime years of a player without giving them what the “free market” woukd otherwise yield in compensation across the leage. NFL careers are short…especially at the RB position and players need to cash in while they can.

    14m. I say he got paid. Big time. Plus 12m last year.

  40. No problem with Bell getting what he can. But running backs don’t work in a vacuum. You need a decent O-line and, especially, a good quarterback, especially with Bell’s unique skillset. He’s had both in Pgh. Moving on doesn’t guarantee those things at your next stop.

  41. Why franchise him ??? On one hand the Steelers say he isn’t worth the risk but yet they franchise him… Shiuld have just let him go and take the 3rd round comp pick….. Drafted James Conner last year and could have easily drafted another RB this year as an insurance policy..

  42. Steelers have been ruining a great chance at a dynasty of this era. May never again see the debatable best RB and debatable best WR on the same team.
    He deserves to be paid!

  43. Both sides are working within the structure of the agreement between the teams and the player’s union. That’s the real problem. RB’s should be treated differently than the other positions. It just seems like the players’ union doesn’t represent their clients very well. A lot of players at different positions are playing at a high level into their late 30’s. RB’s are old men by the time they’re 30.

  44. He saw what Cousins pulled and knows that he’s gone next year. Time for the Steelers to trade him while they can at least get something in return rather then a comp pick in the 2020 draft.

  45. Deal made sense… yea h e’s the best in the league but he’s 27 AND has had suspensions AND an injury history. a rolling guarantee structure is to guarantee he’s on the field before he gets paid. i have no problem with that.

  46. dallasfan76 says:

    July 17, 2018 at 7:57 pm

    The NFL Players Union needs to renegotiate the franchise tag because owners are abusing it. The franchise tag should only be allowed once, then after that, a player is an unrestricted free-agent. Otherwise owners are reaping the benefits of the prime years of a player without giving them what the “free market” would otherwise yield in compensation across the league. NFL careers are short…especially at the RB position and players need to cash in while they can.
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    If the owners concede the franchise Tag to one use, what are the players conceding in return? You realize it is a negotiation? I don’t have sympathy for Bell. He made $12.1 Million in ’17 and will make $14.5 million in ’18. I like the Tag as I prefer to see teams be able to keep star players. The issue is, every FA wants to be the highest paid player in the league. Bell for as talented as he is, has had two drug suspensions and is one puff of weed away from a year long ban.

    For all those saying Bell should hold out and demand a trade, he cannot do that. Can’t be traded until he signs his contract. If he sings and holds out, he is subject to $40,000 per day fines, plus forfeiture of $852,000 per game check if he skips games.

    Lastly, why do all of you care so much about his right to make more millions? Does he lobby for your boss to give you a raise?

  47. The report probably means 10 million guaranteed OVER the franchise 14M franchise tag this season. There is no way they are offering him less guaranteed money than the franchise tag, unless they are just trying to be jerks.

  48. The Steelers have been doing this football thing longer than Bell. They know they have gotten his best years already and don’t want to sign up long term for an immature man that plays a position where players start breaking down after age 27 (Bell is currently 26). Bell should be going down the Kirk Cousins route: short term-fully guaranteed.

  49. bullcharger says:
    July 17, 2018 at 5:29 pm
    Why would you sign a longer term contract with less guaranteed money than the 1 year franchise tag you are already under? The Steelers don’t want to commit to Bell for longer than a year and they have him locked in. Of course he will make it as painful for the Steelers as he can afford now. Good luck getting performance out of him come playoff time.

    —–
    “Good luck getting performance out of him come playoff time.”

    Good luck with every other team not taking that attitude into account when he hits the market.

  50. Why is it so hard for fans to understand that this is a business and both parties are trying to do what’s best for their families/brands. If you want the money you make from the NFL to last, the best plan would to be push for as much $$$ as you can. These big contract numbers don’t fool anyone, the only thing that matters is the guarantee. Barring injury teams can throw players to the wayside at their convenience.

  51. Lets be honest the 2018 salary is all but guaranteed since he isn’t getting cut thus season.

    The real question is what was the 2019 guarantee and what were the conditions of the rolling guarantee?

    Also bell is the best back in the league but i dont know how many teams will pay more then 10 mill/ season for him.

  52. No way the Steelers would offer a guaranteed amount that was below the tag amount, that defies logic. A signing bonus in the area of 20 million was more likely offered, similar to AB’s contract. Sounds like fake news from Bells agent.

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