Jimmy Garoppolo convinced himself that he was better than Tom Brady

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NFL players must have a high degree of self-confidence. Sometimes, that confidence crosses the blurred line into delusion.

49ers quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo is no exception, as evidenced by his mindset during his time as the backup to Tom Brady in New England.

“I knew that [Brady] was better than me in my first day in the NFL,” Garoppolo told Joon Lee of BleacherReport.com. “Naturally, you’re the rookie and he’s the veteran, but you have to have that mindset, that you want to be the starter.

“Even when I was a little kid, my brothers, whenever we would play, I would literally always think I was going to win. I wouldn’t, but I would always think that. It’s like when I go to New England, when I first got there, I thought in my head, ‘I’m better than this dude.'”

Garoppolo then was asked to clarify that he regarded himself as better than Brady.

“It was always a quiet confidence,” Garoppolo said in response. “I would never speak that.”

Again, Garoppolo was asked to confirm that he believed he was the best quarterback on the team.

“Yeah, you believe in yourself,” Garoppolo said. “That’s the best way to put it.”

While Garoppolo never articulated his belief to Brady directly, Garoppolo admitted that they were competitors.

“We got along, but there were always times where we wanted to kill each other,” Garoppolo said. “It was a healthy, competitive relationship.”

The key word is “was.” Garoppolo now plays for Brady’s favorite team of his youth, and Garoppolo could be on the front end of putting together the kind of career that eventually could see him being compared favorably to Brady.

If that’s going to happen Garoppolo needs to get to work; he’s entering the fifth year of his career. By the time Brady had played five years, he had three Super Bowl rings.

170 responses to “Jimmy Garoppolo convinced himself that he was better than Tom Brady

  1. let’s pump the brakes here a bit

    my goodness, i almost feel bad for the kid at this point

    if he is not immediately close to brady in terms of quality, it could get ugly

    a lot of it will have to do lynch. so far, i am not that impressed. lynch seems to think he has some slam dunk b line to winning super bowls

  2. No big deal. Tom Brady as a rookie thought he was better than Bledsoe. Eventually he became better. This guy may do the same. But if he’s going to, it starts with believing it’s possible

  3. Yeah…and Sycho Sid once convinced himself that he would outlast Vince McMahon in the wrestling business.

    One is still owner of the WWE.

    The other is playing softball in Arkansas.

  4. Nobody is going to give this poor guy a break. Even though he has been traded off Brady’s team, he is still being compared to him. Anything he does will never be good enough unless he wins several Super Bowls like Tom. Don’t blame him for wanting to be traded. How hard must it be to follow an act like Tom? Even now those of you in the media won’t let him off Tom’s team.

  5. JG spent the first 3.5 years of his career competing with the GOAT. What QB wouldn’t be competing with TB12 (Monday to Friday)? Now he has his chance to see if he has “it” on Sunday and in January. There are 1000’s who have tried, but few (if any) who have achieved at the same level.

  6. Non-story, but since it’s about the best player in history, it will generate clicks.

    Jimmy G should believe in himself – that’s about all he was intimating there.

  7. Show me a pro athlete with no confidence and I’ll show you that same exact guy. Just now working and living as a regurgitation Joe with a regular job.

  8. 6 games in a career that nobody knows how it will go..You think you’re better then the G.O.A.T?

    Sorry Jimmy G. You ain’t even top 20 yet. I’ll give you maybe on par with a QB like Joe Flacco ( Nah, he did win a Superbowl)

    I still think he has busy written all over him

  9. Did he convince himself that h_e he is dating is better than Giselle too?

  10. Sorry Mike. I was looking at 2000 SB rather than 2000 season. Tom did win 3 in 5 years although the first season he wasn’t close to being a star!

  11. Garappolo already has more Super Rings than Aaron Rodgers, Cam Newton, Matt Ryan and Philip Rivers combined! 😉

  12. There is a difference between what an athlete says in their head and what they have produced. There is no comparison and never will be: Brady is far better. Now, I wish Jimmy a nice career and encourage him to keep believing.

  13. I think I’m better, but I’m not better, because I’m not going to be better until I’m better by winning more super bowl rings than Brady I’m just never better. lol

  14. I think I’m better, but I’m not better, because I’m not going to be better until I’m better by winning more super bowl rings than Brady I’m just never better. I’m just dreaming of being better. lol

  15. Hahahaha….better than the best q.b that’s ever played and he hasn’t even been to the playoffs yet. Come on man. Play a couple years first.

  16. I mean honestly, look no further than Brady. Do you think he believed he was better than Drew Bledsoe, a 28 year old Pro Bowl franchise QB on the fast track to Canton when he was a skinny 6th round dude with 3 vets in front of him for the backup job?

    If Jimmy G is to emulate the vets on the team, then of course he did.

  17. The guy hasn’t even played a full season yet and everyone is acting like he’s Jesus Christ in pads. I’ll admit he looks like he has upside, but let’s be honest here. Most of the clowns hyping him up are only doing it out of spite toward Brady.

  18. Only a reporter, or Monday Morning QB, would think this was an issue. Anyone who has ever been an athlete at a reasonably competitive level understands you can’t be the best if you don’t think you are the best.

  19. You need to have that strong quiet confidence in every aspect of your life, you should also be humble and keep it quiet. Please lord let the Pats play the 49ers before Brady hangs them up.

  20. Still laughing how Kraft threw away the future to protect his beloved son, Tommy, for a few more short years. Brilliant.
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    Tom Brady was a possession away from winning another ring just last February & Won the previous year. In the NFL you can’t let those types of opportunities get away.

  21. Bleacher report is rubbish! Jimmy and Tommy are BOTH competitive people. What NBC left out was the part where tom and jimmy did the throw into a basket like horse game….they also left out the part where tommy would talk to jimmy daily/weekly about how to prepare for upcoming opponents.

    The end is near in Foxborough. True patriot/new England natives like myself know that. Part of me wanted tommy to NOT shake Rogers hand and go out on top, but the man can still play. I wish jimmy nothing but the best. But jimmy, move on to better girls man, that trash bag porn star is little league stuff buddy!

  22. Garoppolo has two Super Bowl rings in his four years. That is a much better pace than Brady, who has won five, but it’s taken him eighteen years to do that.

  23. Delusional! Never gonna happen. Unless Brady hits the wall as Father Time takes its toll.

  24. Patriots should have held on to this guy and if Brady didn’t like you can trade him. Fans hate it when it happens but as a Packer fan, trust me, they get over it.

  25. The “Fake” Jimmy G might very well win in ‘Frisco, but please do not ever speak of Garoppolo in the same light as former high-character ‘Frisco QBs Joe Montana or Steve Young.

  26. Jimmy is forgetting that it takes an organization and a team to succeed. He may be enamored with his recent tshirt sales… but he has NO success yet. Hell he couldn’t even last 2 games without going injured!

  27. Confidence is one thing, arrogance is another. He better be able to back it up…..

  28. Why our people ripping jimmy? Just cause he has the confidence to say what every other qb would say? Ask Goff if he is the best ask cam,Ryan,Flacco they may side step the question cause they don’t have the guts but I guarantee they all believe they our the best. Well said jimmy niner fan since 83 and I believe in ya,10 years from now your will have made your own legend. Quick release,study habits,ark strength and accuracy not to mention under rated athleticism. You have all the tools keepnthe confidence and destroy the league! Goff is gonna choke and you will become division champs!

  29. This article is bait material for haters. This is a winners mentality, confidence is key to success.

    I’m stoked to see what Jimmy G can accomplish in his first full season.

  30. Let’s see how “good” he really is week 1 on the road against Mike Zimmer’s Vikings defense. Harry the Hitman is coming for ya, you self anointing bum! #skolvikes

  31. homerhunter says:
    July 23, 2018 at 9:36 pm

    Still laughing how Kraft threw away the future to protect his beloved son, Tommy, for a few more short years. Brilliant.
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    More of this nonsensical narrative.

    What was NE supposed to do – trade the league MVP Brady and keep the guy with 1.5 games under his belt based on a guess that he might be a franchise QB down the road?

    Or franchise Garappollo for 25 mil and destroy their salary cap?

    This whole concept is idiotic.

    NE rode this out as long as they could, knew they couldn’t afford both guys, and was not about to give up the GOAT in favor of a maybe.

  32. Patriot fans are SEEETHING. This dynasty could’ve continued for another 10 years….ahh but no.

    Hey at least NE got a bunch of 1st rd picks for Ji—

  33. There’s nothing wrong with what he said. If you are a competitor, of course you want to be a starter! Best of luck to you, Jimmy!

    And Brady will win his sixth!

  34. A 30 year old Jimmy JQ will be better than a 46 year old Brady. Everyone knows this and that is why Belicick was pissed, and will eventually resign, because Kraft forced him to trade Jimmy instead of Brady.

  35. funny. when this dude played in a few games for Tom Brady, Jimmy G wasn’t anywhere close. This dude is over rated.

  36. So he’s delusional too. Should fit right in with the 49er fans. He also might need to get a handle on that pick problem he has before he even thinks like that instead of letting his play show it.

  37. Maybe but not until he gets some protection on the line. Not surprised he’d say this most talented Brady backup bar none and maybe top 5 qb in the league.

  38. homerhunter says:
    July 23, 2018 at 9:36 pm
    Still laughing how Kraft threw away the future to protect his beloved son, Tommy, for a few more short years. Brilliant.

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    Irsay did the opposite. How did that work out so far?
    There are no guarantees in the NFL. However, Brady and Manning are pretty close. You just don’t trade those guys, even for a few more short years.

  39. I can see how some may argue or take offense to Garroppolo’s mindset and remarks. Anyone who’s never participated in competitive athletics is unlikely to understand Garroppolo’s correct mentality and self-confidence.

  40. Like many actual Patriots fans, I would have liked to see them retain Garoppolo, but it simply wasn’t financially possible. I also believe Jimmy G. will be (at the very least) a “solid” NFL QB, and I think he’s demonstrated he’s on that track. BUT… everyone assumes he’s the second coming of Brady or Montana. What if he’s the next Matthew Stafford or Philip Rivers? That certainly wouldn’t be a bad thing, as both are comparisons are talented, but it’s not “once in a generation” type skill. It would be foolish for Garoppolo NOT to be confident, but how about we get a wildcard berth for the 49ers before we start crowning the guy?

  41. 95% of the people on here think they are better than TB, so, yeah, no surprise- also as has been noted, every pro athlete has this attitude, they have to, if they didn’t they would not be where they are- so this is much more than blah cubed in the end, waste of all of our time- self included of course

  42. I will be shocked if he plays all 16 games. I wish him no harm but I just don’t think he is going to make it to 16 before going on IR just the way I see it.

  43. Good for Jimmy – that’s the attitute you have to have if you want to succeed in professional sports.

    I’m a Patriots fan, but I love this kid. I’ll catch as many 49ers games that are televised as I can.

  44. If you don’t have the mindset that you are or could be the best, then you don’t belong in the NFL.

  45. He’s started fewer than 10 games in his career and you’re already saying his career may compare favorably to Tom Brady? Think about how insane that is.

    Can this dude be allowed to be a young, inexperienced QB for awhile before we annoint him as Football Jesus?

  46. Mikespillane… Bledsoe wasn’t like that. He still isn’t like that. One of the greatest guys on the Patriots EVER. He didn’t pout when he was healthy enough to return to the starting position, he helped Brady throughout the 2001 season. He came in for an injured Brady in the playoffs but continued to be backup through the SB. He was a team player and I was sad to lose him. Always glad to see him come back around to NE and still think of the team and the fans fondly.

  47. Garoppolo thinks the way any premier athlete should. When Brady introduced himself to Kraft he told the team owner that drafting him was the best decision the team ever made. Since the Pats had just made Bledsoe the highest paid player in the game Brady’s sentiment wasn’t any different than Jimmy’s. Only time will tell if Garoppolo’s words are as true as Brady’s turned out to be.

  48. Lots of QB’s would have wilted on the practice field with the GOAT.

    Brady’s first 4 games Jimmy rookie year were probably his worst opening four game stretch of his career. Even the famous “on to Cincinnati” game opening drive was lousy. Brady scrambled for a first down and the stadium started chanting “Brady Brady Brady!” which I will go to my grave believing that chant is one of the things that helped TB12 get his mojo back. The Pats went on to win the Super Bowl that season (Seahawks)

    Hoyer didn’t rattle Brady. Cassel didn’t rattle Brady. Mallett didn’t rattle Brady.

  49. Mountain out of a molehill…..
    Love his attitude….. he’s allowed to THINK & BELIEVE whatever he wishes…… confidence is a MUST at that position so good for him!!!
    Time will tell I guess, and I’m glad we kept Brady since we couldn’t keep them both financially without DESTROYING the salary cap & setting the team back for years…
    Go Pats!!!

  50. Brady said the same thing about Bledsoe his rookie year. – The Brady 6

  51. You know you just got pwned when Florio jumps into the comment section to own you!

    Better than Brady?!?!? (LOL) We’ll see.
    A high degree of confidence is a necessary component for that position. Jimmy has shown that he plays with it – now let’s see if he can keep it up.

  52. homerhunter says:

    July 23, 2018 at 9:36 pm

    Still laughing how Kraft threw away the future to protect his beloved son, Tommy, for a few more short years. Brilliant.
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    Let’s see, keep the reigning league MVP with a proven track record, and 5 super bowl wins plus a proven ability to stay healthy at $15 million a year ($22m cap hit), or go with the guy who played two games then immediately got hurt at $28 million a year ($37m cap hit)? Would it be nice to keep them both? Yes. Is it realistic in a salary cap league? No. While Jimmy G. looks like a good prospect he is by no means a sure thing and has yet to prove he can take hits and stay healthy. The clock on this choice doesn’t start ticking until Brady is gone and we see how much longer beyond that Jimmy G plays at an elite level. The smart bet remains Brady, who is after all the GOAT. And the Pats have never sacrificed the future in the Kraft era, which is why they are in contention every year.

  53. homerhunter says:

    July 23, 2018 at 9:36 pm

    Still laughing how Kraft threw away the future to protect his beloved son, Tommy, for a few more short years. Brilliant.

    ==============================

    Pats kept the NFL MVP instead of a QB who, although has promise, couldn’t stay on the field with the Pats when given his opportunity. Jimmy then had a good showing the 49ers, but lets not assume he would have brought the Pats to the Super Bowl last year. He was good, but his TD-INT ratio was not great. Wish Jimmy the best, but I’d rather go with the sure thing who is more experienced (and cheaper!). I’d rather a shot at the Super Bowl for the next couple of years than merely a shot at making the playoffs. Belichick will figure it out after that. I mean, Nick Foles just won the Super Bowl.

  54. I was just going to correct that but the maestro beat me to it. I like Jimmy as many Patriot fans did but to try and keep him somehow was fairly impossible. Even if they screwed up their cap space badly, do you really think Garoppolo would stand for waiting around for Brady to fall down, and let his best years get wasted. If the Patriots used the consecutive franchise tag the Patriot’s wouldn’t have been able to sign many of the good but not great secondary players, that as always helped their team stay on top. It was fairly impossible to do and now we get to see what Jimmy can do with a whole season? Still has something to prove. I’m happy for the guy but would love to have kept him.

  55. vikesr4reel says:
    July 23, 2018 at 10:24 pm
    Cheat and lie
    Lie and cheat
    Nothing to see here

    Lose, lose and lose. Nothing to see up north either.

    And Brady was better than Bledsoe from day one. Bledsoe was gereat as long as there were open receivers downfield for long passes. He never got that you can with with a short game. Bledsoe and Parcells, the reason NE only has 5 rings.

  56. trollaikman8 says:
    July 23, 2018 at 11:57 pm
    Patriot fans are SEEETHING.
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    Actually most of us understand the realities of the cap. The Pats have been putting on an advanced master’s class on how to navigate it and remain competitive for quite some time now. While that’s been going on in addition to enjoying this great run we’ve also been enjoying the comments of the folks that in spite of all the evidence that you can’t keep everyone still just don’t get it. Now let’s all get settled in and comfy for New England’s 17th Annual Farewell Tour…

  57. I find it not surprising at all that the only people on this site who thought Jimmy G. had a promising career before he was traded were Pats fans, and now that he has been traded dozens of non-Pats fans who thought nothing of Jimmy G. before think the Pats are now doomed.

    Yes, the Pats and their fans are doomed to 12 AFC championship games, 8 Super Bowl appearances, and 5 Super Bowl wins in the last 17 seasons – and counting.

    We wish Jimmy G. well, unlike the non-Pats fans we have always believed he is a promising talent. What the future holds for all we will need to check back on in 10 years when Brady finally retires.

  58. parkerclay says:
    July 23, 2018 at 9:34 pm
    Actually Brady had 2 super bowl rings after his first 5 seasons!

    62 196
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    Wow! Lots of people on here who can’t count. parkerclay got spanked by Florio but what about the 62 dolts who gave it a thumbs up? Most did it after Florio pointed out parkerclay was wrong. What is this country coming to?

  59. vikesr4reel says:
    July 23, 2018 at 10:24 pm
    Cheat and lie
    Lie and cheat
    Nothing to see here

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    Zero championships in 57 years…..THAT is nothing to see

  60. As with songwriting teams, it’s always two–Webber-Rice, Lennon-McCartney, Jagger-Richards, etc.–that complement each other. So it is with football teams, it’s all about the coach-quarterback combination: Brown-Graham, Lombardi-Starr, Landry-Staubach, Knoll-Bradshaw, Walsh-Montana, Johnson-Aikman, Belichick-Brady. It remains to be seen whether Shanahan and Garoppolo can form the necessary complementary bond that greatness requires.

  61. gonakgod says:
    July 23, 2018 at 11:26 pm
    Jimmy G also has 2 superbowl rings.
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    If that’s the way you want to roll, those are courtesy of Tom Brady. The waterboy has a few courtesy of Brady, too. Drew Bledsoe also has a Super Bowl ring courtesy of Brady, except he did more to earn it than just being the backup QB. Bledsoe had to replace Brady during the AFCCG when Brady got his first knee injury. I remember the media-created uproar in Boston about Bledsoe possibly starting the Super Bowl over Brady because of Brady’s knee. No offense intended to Bledsoe, but he was the darling of the Boston media because he was their locker room insider, they wanted him to start so they could continue that relationship. They hated it when the Patriots traded Bledsoe to the Bills, they lost their inside source and never got another, that’s why they hate Belichick.

  62. Garoppolo’s words are exactly what keeps the fire burning in Tom Brady. God help Jimmy if they were to meet in the Super Bowl. He may have used the words to stay motivated, but Brady is the GOAT, and most likely always will be.

  63. It looks more and more each single day that the Patriots traded the wrong QB. SMH.

  64. phinatic29 says:
    July 24, 2018 at 9:31 am

    Garoppolo was right on. Brady is and will always be a 6th round talent.
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    And Ryan Leaf was a first round talent. How’d that work out for him?

  65. Garoppolo (trying to spell this guy’s name is like trying to spell ‘tomorrow’ right the first time) already putting himself at a disadvantage. Talking way too much and hanging out with porn stars in public will only create the distractions than can eventually be the difference between being a winner or a loser.

  66. homerhunter says:
    July 23, 2018 at 9:36 pm
    Still laughing how Kraft threw away the future to protect his beloved son, Tommy, for a few more short years. Brilliant.
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    Still laughing at all the guys that said before the trade that the Pats had no future after Brady now saying they threw it away.

  67. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    July 24, 2018 at 10:51 am

    It looks more and more each single day that the Patriots traded the wrong QB. SMH.
    ———————-

    What exactly are you looking at?

  68. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    July 24, 2018 at 10:51 am

    It looks more and more each single day that the Patriots traded the wrong QB. SMH.

    ————-

    Why? You claim that any High School QB can succeed in BB’s “system”. So what difference would it make? Or maybe you just have absolutely no idea about any of this?

  69. pastabelly says:
    July 23, 2018 at 10:41 pm
    Garoppolo has two Super Bowl rings in his four years. That is a much better pace than Brady, who has won five, but it’s taken him eighteen years to do that.
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    Why, yes, you’re right, he certainly does. But until he gets one for doing more than holding a clipboard and looking pretty, I don’t think many people will be impressed by that. I’m sure he’s glad to have them, but they appear to mean more to you than they do to him, they certainly won’t get him into the Hall of Fame.

  70. All the nonsense about Jimmy G is disrespectful to Brees, Rivers, Rodgers, Wilson and others that are great players in the league at the position. A guy like Rivers has won exactly zero Super Bowls after a great career. Talking about being better than Brady is a joke. Go prove in on the field. We can check back in 20 years and see how he did.

  71. phinatic29 says:
    July 24, 2018 at 9:31 am
    Garoppolo was right on. Brady is and will always be a 6th round talent.

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    How does it feel to cheer for a team that gets beat in the division every year by that 6th round talent? The only year the phins did anything (barely) was the year Brady was hurt.

  72. unclebluck says:
    July 24, 2018 at 8:15 am
    Tammy definitely leads Garoppolo in the smashed phone category…

    ————

    You may say “Tammy”, but I am sure if you ever met Tom you would be begging for his autograph like Turtle from Entourage.

  73. mmack66 says:
    July 24, 2018 at 11:13 am
    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    July 24, 2018 at 10:51 am

    It looks more and more each single day that the Patriots traded the wrong QB. SMH.
    ———————-

    What exactly are you looking at?

    ——–

    I’m reading this article. The kid’s got moxie. Exactly what you want in your signal caller. Oh, what could have been.

  74. trollaikman8 says:
    July 23, 2018 at 11:57 pm
    Patriot fans are SEEETHING. This dynasty could’ve continued for another 10 years….ahh but no.
    Hey at least NE got a bunch of 1st rd picks for Ji—

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    1st, no Patriots fans are not seething. They are looking forward to the season and happy to talk about Brady any chance they get, including in this forum. These kinds of articles are fantastic.

    2nd, the dynasty would most likely not continue. Look what happened with Luck in Indy. He was a sure thing. A few games don’t mean anything. Brady needs to stay a part of the team legacy and cutting him and sending him somewhere else would have been a disaster long term. All we can hope is the Patriots continue to operate like the top tier franchise they have become and stay competitive like the Steelers have over the years.

    3rd, a second round pick is just fine. Brady put them to a decision through excellent play and the team played it so they would have a competent back up. Smart move and worth the pick devaluation.

  75. It’s a fluff piece. He never said NE had an offer from Clev, that was the reporter. Brady didn’t comment on the article.

    The funniest part was For the 2014 NFL draft, Jimmy invited his roommates to New York City, registering all five of them as his brothers.

  76. unclebluck says:
    July 24, 2018 at 8:15 am
    Tammy definitely leads Garoppolo in the smashed phone category…
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    Just wondering, does it make you feel more like a he-man hero to call other guys by a woman’s name? Do you do it to make up for your own short-comings?

  77. trollaikman8 says:
    July 23, 2018 at 11:57 pm
    Patriot fans are SEEETHING.
    ———————————–

    Actually, no – there aren’t many fans who are upset because NE has a chance to be in the SB in each of the next 2-4 years with Brady at QB and I’d wager on that over JG taking them there over the same time frame.

    Also, it’s funny that back when JG was on the Pats all of you fans of other teams said the Pats fans were crazy thinking the Pats would get a 1st rd pick for JG, then when he’s traded, all of you are now saying that the Pats got ripped off only getting a 2nd rd pick.

    So, which is it? Was he good enough while with the Pats to get a 1st rd pick or did the Pats get screwed only getting a 2nd, cuz you can’t have it both ways.

  78. unclebluck says:
    July 24, 2018 at 8:15 am
    Tammy definitely leads Garoppolo in the smashed phone category…

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    Actually they are both tied at zero.

  79. nhpats says:
    July 24, 2018 at 11:26 am
    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    July 24, 2018 at 10:51 am

    It looks more and more each single day that the Patriots traded the wrong QB. SMH.

    ————-

    Why? You claim that any High School QB can succeed in BB’s “system”. So what difference would it make? Or maybe you just have absolutely no idea about any of this?

    ——–

    Only a fake fan would ask these questions. BB is not going to coach forever. With Garoppolo, you have the most important position addressed for at least the next 10 years even after BB retires. Now we are stuck with a 41 year old QB who just got outplayed in the SB by a backup QB, and a possible disgruntled BB. So yes, we traded the wrong QB.

  80. Convinced himself to be better than the other guy….. just like Tommy 12 taught him to.

  81. Okay, only ways I can think of for parkerclay to have counted only 2 SB rings in Brady’s first 5 years are these:

    1. He thinks Brady was drafted in 1999, which would take out SB 39 in 2004 season.
    2. He stopped counting 2004 season at end of regular season, discounting post-season games as they took place in Jan/Feb 2005, also taking out SB 39.
    3. He’s among the fans who assume that if the Raiders had won the Tuck Rule Game, they would automatically have won SB 36, ignoring the fact that the Tuck Rule Game was not the AFCCG and they would have had to beat the Steelers to get to the SB.

  82. bullcharger says:
    July 24, 2018 at 12:02 pm

    How does it feel to cheer for a team that gets beat in the division every year by that 6th round talent? The only year the phins did anything (barely) was the year Brady was hurt.

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    not sure what you are watching – the Phins make Brady look like “just a guy” every season.

    so overrated.

  83. mmack66 says:
    July 24, 2018 at 10:51 am

    And Ryan Leaf was a first round talent. How’d that work out for him?

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    considering Leaf received an $11.25 million signing bonus …. i would say it worked out pretty damn good for him.

    next question.

  84. Who has the better career winning pct? Who has the better career winning pct with NE? Jimmy is correct. NE got rid of the wrong player.

  85. Where’s Michael Irvin at when you actually need him to be worried about someone’s mental state. Better than Brady yea maybe Jan but I would still pick Marcia before Garoppolo just sayin’.

  86. all this hype for Crappolo is making me vomit, he has started 7 career games people, it is totally disgusting all the hype, i don’t understand it at all.

  87. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    July 24, 2018 at 12:11 pm

    I’m reading this article. The kid’s got moxie. Exactly what you want in your signal caller. Oh, what could have been.
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    No one knows what could have been because Garoppolo has yet to accomplish anything.

  88. Like how all the experts said that kap is better than smith…rg3 is the next great qb..vicks going to change the game..prescotts the next brady..flynn is the next??? The list is endless.The same can be said about any player that flashed but turned out to be just a mirage.The Patriots are more than happy to let other teams do it their way…but the Patriot Way is the way to go…who is favored to win the SB again?Just like for the past decades.Do they win all of them..no..but they always are playing in january and sometimes February.We as Patriots fans enjoy that,you can have your one and dones.

  89. phinatic29 says:
    July 24, 2018 at 1:25 pm

    considering Leaf received an $11.25 million signing bonus …. i would say it worked out pretty damn good for him.
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    You would? Do you know anything about the guy?

  90. Not a Patriots fan, but no one is going to touch the success the Pats have had for a long time. They hit the perfect storm of an elite coach and elite QB. The defense was nothing to write home about as there have been no really elite individual players (Bruschi?) nor were the WRs or running backs. What they’ve accomplished is truly remarkable not seen since the days of the 49ers. To think or expect Jimmy to have that kind of success with today’s 49ers is absurd. I just hope he gets at least one.

  91. this dude won the genetic/professional lottery and it makes me jealous and hopeful he gets pummeled to knock him down a few pegs. he’s an nfl quarterback in california who learned behind the greatest coach and qb ever to play the game. he is also insanely good looking.

    it’s not fair, damnit!

  92. djvh2 says:
    July 24, 2018 at 1:29 pm
    Who has the better career winning pct? Who has the better career winning pct with NE? Jimmy is correct. NE got rid of the wrong player.
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    Really??? 7 career starts and you’re going to hang your hat on winning percentage??? Go back to watching Pop Warner, you’re not educated enough for this conversation.

  93. “no one is going to touch the success the Pats have had for a long time. They hit the perfect storm of an elite coach and elite QB. The defense was nothing to write home about”

    The part about the defense is not true. Since Brady starting, 17 years with 2008 injury year incl, NE has finished 1st in pts given up twice, top 10 fourteen times, top 5 eight times, with the 3 worst rankings being 14, 17 and 17. Of course he’s done great, but that’s a really great defensive run. By comparison, Green Bay since Rodgers started has played ten seasons. Their defense has finished top 10 twice, with 4 seasons ranked 21st or lower. When GB finished #2 in defense, they won the Super Bowl despite their top TE and RB out for the year.

  94. As a Fins fan it’ll be interesting to see how this plays out. Saw a video a week ago how Kraft insisted that BB keep Brady and trade JimmyG (Belichick is the Pats GM as well as HC) to the Niners, about how BB did not get along with Brady. Doubt this, but I have a funny feeling the Pats will regret trading away JimmyG at some point, or at least the NE press will. And will Belichick get the blame for it? Like I said interesting. Because the Pats will eventually have to replace Brady with someone. Who will last longer, Brady, or his main DL nemesis, Cameron Wake?

  95. djvh2 says:
    July 24, 2018 at 3:23 pm
    “no one is going to touch the success the Pats have had for a long time. They hit the perfect storm of an elite coach and elite QB. The defense was nothing to write home about”
    The part about the defense is not true. Since Brady starting, 17 years with 2008 injury year incl, NE has finished 1st in pts given up twice, top 10 fourteen times, top 5 eight times, with the 3 worst rankings being 14, 17 and 17. Of course he’s done great, but that’s a really great defensive run. By comparison, Green Bay since Rodgers started has played ten seasons. Their defense has finished top 10 twice, with 4 seasons ranked 21st or lower. When GB finished #2 in defense, they won the Super Bowl despite their top TE and RB out for the year.

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    I agree that the Patriots defense has been very good over the years. They are well coached and play to their strengths. However, don’t underestimate what Brady has brought to that defense over the years. The short passing style keeps the other teams offense off the field. Most QBs can not pass that many times without turning the ball over on downs or throwing a pick. Brady is special in how he can sustain drives.

    The biggest challenge of losing Edelman in 2017 was that the Patriots had to go more to a quick strike offense and it exposed the defense badly.

  96. bullcharger – I agree with what you say about Brady sustaining drives and helping the defense, but even being exposed badly in 2017, they were 5th in the league in pts allowed.
    Us Packer fans would love to have that, and most of us feel really good about our chances if we can be an upper half defense. Give us top 10 14 of 17 years with a top 10 defense and Rodgers and we would be ecstatic.

  97. djvh2 says:

    July 24, 2018 at 3:23 pm

    “no one is going to touch the success the Pats have had for a long time. They hit the perfect storm of an elite coach and elite QB. The defense was nothing to write home about”

    The part about the defense is not true. Since Brady starting, 17 years with 2008 injury year incl, NE has finished 1st in pts given up twice, top 10 fourteen times, top 5 eight times, with the 3 worst rankings being 14, 17 and 17. Of course he’s done great, but that’s a really great defensive run. By comparison, Green Bay since Rodgers started has played ten seasons. Their defense has finished top 10 twice, with 4 seasons ranked 21st or lower. When GB finished #2 in defense, they won the Super Bowl despite their top TE and RB out for the year.

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    Points against avg is an incomplete stat for defense. Pats were a “top 5” defense last year in points allowed but were actually pretty bad. They were 29th in yards allowed. They gave up 26 points/game to their top 9 opponents faced last year. That would be good for 31st in the NFL. They were terrible against good teams as shown in the Super Bowl. DVOA is a much better stat and Patriots have only had a few really good defenses in the Brady era. Most were above average to average, and a few were just plain bad.

  98. djvh2 says:

    July 24, 2018 at 1:29 pm

    Who has the better career winning pct? Who has the better career winning pct with NE? Jimmy is correct. NE got rid of the wrong player.

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    If your gonna play the dumb “pct” game comparing a player with 7.5 games played to one with 250 played, you MUST take into account injuries. Brady’s made 96% of his available starts in his career. Garappolo has made 78%. That means Brady is expected to miss .06 games a year, while JG would be expected to miss about 3.5 games a year. That is brutal, especially given his huge cap number. You sound a lot like patsfan4lifesbchamps

  99. “If your gonna play the dumb “pct” game comparing a player with 7.5 games played to one with 250 played, you MUST take into account injuries. ”

    While I agree it’s dumb/premature to compare Jimmy being undefeated to Brady, JimmyG is the real deal, and if I consider injuries, then I’ll have to point out that NE was 11-5 with Matt Cassel (!!!) in 2008, and 3-1 last year with backups, one who couldn’t even use his throwing thumb in that one loss. Look what happens to a team like Indy when Manning was injured, GB when Rodgers is out, and you’d have to say that they carry the team a lot more. Yes, it’s because they had/have to, but they still did/do.

    Time will tell. Maybe this will be like if GB had kept Favre because they just had to, and let Rodgers go.

  100. nhpats says:
    July 24, 2018 at 11:26 am

    Why? You claim that any High School QB can succeed in BB’s “system”. So what difference would it make? Or maybe you just have absolutely no idea about any of this?
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    jetsfan4life1sbwinb4moonlanding just got owned. Again.

  101. terripet says:
    July 23, 2018 at 9:30 pm
    He’s right Brady the 5x SB champ 3 yard system quarterback even dictator Bill knows it
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    Fixed it for you

  102. djvh2 says:

    July 24, 2018 at 5:09 pm

    “If your gonna play the dumb “pct” game comparing a player with 7.5 games played to one with 250 played, you MUST take into account injuries. ”

    While I agree it’s dumb/premature to compare Jimmy being undefeated to Brady, JimmyG is the real deal, and if I consider injuries, then I’ll have to point out that NE was 11-5 with Matt Cassel (!!!) in 2008, and 3-1 last year with backups, one who couldn’t even use his throwing thumb in that one loss. Look what happens to a team like Indy when Manning was injured, GB when Rodgers is out, and you’d have to say that they carry the team a lot more. Yes, it’s because they had/have to, but they still did/do.

    Time will tell. Maybe this will be like if GB had kept Favre because they just had to, and let Rodgers go.

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    Sure but also with QB injuries taken into account, Belichick went from 5-13 with a multi Pro Bowl QB to a Super Bowl champion with a second year backup. And we all know how it took off from there.

  103. And don’t forget Matt Cassel, Bledsoe and Jimmy G all had better years after leaving the Pats. They all were considerably better than what the Colts and Packers trotted out there at QB when Rodgers or Peyton weren’t starting. And the Colts were widely known to have been tanking for Luck.

  104. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:

    July 24, 2018 at 12:11 pm

    mmack66 says:
    July 24, 2018 at 11:13 am
    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    July 24, 2018 at 10:51 am

    It looks more and more each single day that the Patriots traded the wrong QB. SMH.
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    What exactly are you looking at?

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    I’m reading this article. The kid’s got moxie. Exactly what you want in your signal caller. Oh, what could have been.

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    Still haven’t decided yet, huh? Do you want the super expensive QB with promise but little experience, or is it that a high school QB could still lead the Pats to the same level of success? Sounds like your “system” argument broke down loooong ago.

  105. Maybe he meant he was better than a non-juiced Brady as has now been proven by Edelman getting popped following the same doctor’s “orders”

  106. Garoppolo could be on the front end of putting together the kind of career that eventually could see him being compared favorably to Brady.

    If that’s going to happen Garoppolo needs to get to work; he’s entering the fifth year of his career. By the time Brady had played five years, he had three Super Bowl rings.
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    Those two lines next to each other are hilarious.

  107. higheriqthanyou says:

    July 29, 2018 at 1:18 pm

    Maybe he meant he was better than a non-juiced Brady as has now been proven by Edelman getting popped following the same doctor’s “orders”

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    Maybe you try using some facts next time…

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