Pete Carroll on Earl Thomas: He should be here and he’s not

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The Earl Thomas holdout is officially on in Seattle and the safety will be placed on the did not report list as a result of his absence.

That move opens up a roster spot for the Seahawks, but adding another player is hardly the end of the saga. Thomas has said he wants a contract extension or a trade and the Seahawks haven’t shown much desire to give him a new deal at this point.

Despite that, Carroll said that the team is still operating with the expectation that Thomas will be back with the team at some point.

“He’s been here for a long time. We always expect him to be here. It’s kind of how it is. He should be here and he’s not,” Carroll said. “It’s really about the guys that are here now and we’re going to keep moving and grooving and putting it together. It’s unfortunate. … We’re expecting him back. He’s under contract.”

Given everything Thomas has said to this point, that seems like wishful thinking on Carroll’s part but anything remains possible until Thomas is wearing another uniform.

35 responses to “Pete Carroll on Earl Thomas: He should be here and he’s not

  1. 3rd rounder now.. 3rd rounder as a comp pick when he departs in FA..

    Whats the difference? 10-15 picks?

    3rd and 5th? Perhaps they take that deal…

  2. Love ET but he is pissing me off. Play out your contract, have a great year and either get franchised for big money, traded and then big money or contract extension from the Hawks. I think ET has a strange personality and he should value the team that drafted him and trained him and got the best out of him and the team. Stop taking photos and try to help the young guys and yourself by reporting to camp. Go Hawks

  3. “aarons444 says:
    July 26, 2018 at 5:07 pm
    3rd rounder now.. 3rd rounder as a comp pick when he departs in FA..

    Whats the difference? 10-15 picks?

    3rd and 5th? Perhaps they take that deal…”

    No one is going to give two picks for Earl. He probably won’t garner a contract significant enough to warrant a 3rd round comp. The safety market is absolutely dead.

  4. No one is going to give two picks for Earl. He probably won’t garner a contract significant enough to warrant a 3rd round comp. The safety market is absolutely dead.
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    I DOUBT he gets Eric Berry $$$.

    McCourty got 5 years, $47.5mil. No reason to believe he’d get less than that, considering he’s an infinitely better player.

    And never under estimate the stupidity of NFL teams in Free Agency.

    .. sadly, we won’t know for sure until March.

    … and I would think a 3rd and 5th is better than giving up a 2nd. Either seems like a bargain for the best centerfielder in the game.

  5. “Well Pete you should have called a run play in the Super Bowl to win it, but you didn’t.”

    You people crack me up. Do you know why he didn’t give Lynch the ball there? Because they gave Lynch the ball on 4th and 1 five previous times that season. Do you know how many times he got the first down? Once. That 20% success rate on 4th and 1 was really beastly all right.

    There was no guarantee a run play would have scored at all. Maybe it would have but a desperate Pats D expecting the run was entirely capable of stopping it.

    20% on 4th and 1. That’s why he called a pass.

  6. Problem with a trade partner, EARL WANTS A NEW DEAL. Not too many teams in cap position (right now) to give him the deal he wants, further complicating the fact is that he’s almost 30, and has incurred a major injury.

    If Seattle won’t do it, that speaks volumes to the league. Similar to the Dez situation in Dallas. The fact that the Cowboys walked away from him really raised eyebrows around the league. Now everyone else is gun shy.

  7. Carroll said. “It’s really about the guys that are here now and we’re going to keep moving and grooving and putting it together.

    ________________________________________________________________________________

    lolol… Guess what Pete, there aren’t any decent guys left to move and groove and put it together…. what a delusional tool

  8. Seattle should put Mr. Tomas on Ebay, Used defensive back, lots of miles. Ham sandwich or best offer.

  9. Do you know why he didn’t give Lynch the ball there? Because they gave Lynch the ball on 4th and 1 five previous times that season. Do you know how many times he got the first down? Once. That 20% success rate on 4th and 1 was really beastly all right.
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    Talking to the wrong crowd.

    Seahawk fans know better. Lynch was one of the best short-yardage backs of recent memory.

    .. I have no problem with the pass. It wasn’t a good pass, and terrible execution.

    … but you’re myth should die the death it deserves.

  10. It’s pretty obvious he doesn’t want to be there. His house is up for sale and he’s asked to be traded. How well do they think he’ll play if he stays. Just make a trade and move on. Whatever you get is gravy.

  11. Lynch on 3rd/4th short in 2014 – 18 of 21

    Lynch needing 1-3 yards in 2014 – 34 of 50

    Lynch was 73.2% in short yardage situations in 2014.

    … and he scored 16 redzone tds.. 13 from inside the 10 yard line.

  12. If Thomas isn’t there by the time teams cut to 53, cut him. He doesn’t want to be in Seattle anyways. Or trade to the Colts for a condition 7th round pick in 2024.

  13. Full-blown rebuild in progress.

    Thomas is smart for not wanting to play for them without more cash and the Seahawks would be smart to move him for draft picks.

    They can’t help each other at this point. Too many other holes on defense and he’ll be long gone by the time they turn things around.

  14. I DOUBT he gets Eric Berry $$$.

    McCourty got 5 years, $47.5mil. No reason to believe he’d get less than that, considering he’s an infinitely better player.

    And never under estimate the stupidity of NFL teams in Free Agency.

    .. sadly, we won’t know for sure until March.

    … and I would think a 3rd and 5th is better than giving up a 2nd. Either seems like a bargain for the best centerfielder in the game.

    McCourty signed his contract 3 offseasons ago when he was 24. The safety market was absolutely dead this offseason. Dead.
    Thomas is 2 years older, going to be 30 and wants a big money deal. No team is giving up multiple picks to get a safety on the wrong side of his prime, who is holding out and wants big money. A 4th rounder at best, probably a 5th or 6th is reasonable, however what is most likely is he is not going to get much interest when the rubber meets the road because what he wants and how teams value him are likely very different.

  15. Hawks will be the talk of the NFL.

    D will not be as good but still good.

    Offense will be vastly improved.

    Running game will be vastly improved.

    Whiners will whine.

    LOL

  16. This guy is no dummy. I’m against 99.9% of holdouts but it’s obvious why this guy is doing this now. Seattle got rid of that loud mouth Sherman, the liar/elder abuser Bennett and with Kam retiring this defense is going to be awful. Thomas will be exposed and at age 29 most likely will show signs of decline. He’s an UDFA next year so this all adds up to a really bad contract next year.
    That said I think Seattle should make the smart business decision and let him sit and fine the hell out of him until he shows up. Go earn your money Earl.

  17. Just play out the year at $8.5mm and then ET is a FA and can pick the deal and team. Who wants to trade for a disgruntled safety that will become a free agent. Hawks will be lucky to get a 4th rdr.

    I hope he gets fined, doesn’t play and loses the 2018 season and eligibility to become a fa in 2019.

  18. For those hating on players who sit out etc I understand they made a pact
    But check game

    There’s a clear double-standard in play in National Sports

    GM’s trade players w/o a moment’s notice & it’s business
    But
    A player is expected to honor his commitments

    Players are daring ownership these days & it’s costly to franchises

    Bottomline
    If an owner can pay out $500m for salarys alone, just how much are they making
    Then they have write-offs & loopholes to jump through

  19. It really does not matter whether he reports or not. The team is so bad that it will get worse before it gets better. Penny-pinching Mode is rebuilding. Seattle is not going to make the playoffs. And even if they make the playoffs, they are not going to get to the Super Bowl unless they have home field advantage throughout the playoffs=.

  20. I don’t think anyone will trade for him. He’s stuck in Seattle in a situation he created for himself. His value has taken a significant hit and he only has himself to blame.

    He talked to another owner and another coach about joining their team. He discussed his contract situation on social media.

    When adversity hits and he doesn’t get what he wants this is how he acts.

    With his age, the amount of money he wants, how much you’re going to have to trade for him. Is he worth it? No.

  21. A 4th rounder at best, probably a 5th or 6th is reasonable
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    LMAO

    For a guy that may be the best DB in the game?

    The Seahawks won’t deal him at that price. They’ll use him up and roll the dice on the comp pick.

  22. I’ve had mixed feelings on this all along, but I’m now beginning to come around to the team’s POV. I’ve watched football for 50 years and his skill set at free safety is phenomenal. The way he closes on the ball is nothing short of amazing. He needs to report to camp, show them he can still bring the heat, and THEN negotiate the extension. It’s hard to convince anyone of your worth if you don’t show up.

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