Aaron Rodgers has plenty of leverage, if he chooses to use it

AP

On Thursday, Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers expressed disappointment that his contract extension wasn’t finalized before training camp opened. But he made it clear that he didn’t consider holding out, explaining that he doesn’t “operate that way.”

If Rodgers, who currently is making an average of $22 million per year, ever chooses to “operate that way,” he’d quickly get the $30-million-or-more-per-year contract he deserves.

Sure, the easiest and cleanest leverage for a player is to choose to hold out. Get-off-my-lawn rants from Bill Polian types regarding the sanctity of a “contract” notwithstanding, the broader contract governing the management-labor relationship gives the player the right to withhold services by staying away from training camp.

But the Collective Bargaining Agreement, which makes it easy (though not cheap, given the $40,000 in daily fines) to not show up, makes it harder to apply pressure in other ways. For example, a player showing up and then abruptly leaving almost never happens in a contract dispute, because the team can squeeze him into coming back with a so-called “five-day letter.” If he doesn’t show up within five days (duh) after getting the five-day letter, the team can put him on the reserve/left squad list, shutting him down for the year and bumping his remaining contract to the next year.

Rodgers would be one of the few players who could pull off a walkout, however, because the Packers wouldn’t be dumb enough to shut him down for the full season and hand the baton to someone like DeShone Kizer or Brett Hundley. While the ultimate boss move from Rodgers would invite plenty of scrutiny and criticism, Rodgers has made it clear that: (1) getting a new deal is “important to me”; and (2) he’s trying to focus exclusively on getting ready for the season. So if he gets to the point where the looming contract becomes too much of a distraction, he simply needs to leave camp, check into a local hotel, and wait for the money to flow in his direction.

The problem in the ongoing negotiations, as a source with knowledge of the situation explained it to PFT, is that the Packers are approaching the talks in a bland and traditional way, while Rodgers’ representatives are trying to be more creative. And that disconnect is what’s keeping the deal from getting done.

Short of packing up and leaving the Packers (until the contract is finished), Rodgers has other options. He can be more aggressive and candid in his comments to the media. He can turn the team against the front office with comments made privately to other players. He can be difficult in a passive-aggressive way with the coaching staff.

He also can (and possibly will) dismiss these various possibilities as “crap,” and that’s fine. He’s trying to strike a delicate balance on this one, hoping to get the financial package he deserves without becoming what fans will dub the latest greedy, selfish, ungrateful athlete who isn’t happy with the millions he has.

Here’s the problem: The current strategy isn’t working. To get the deal done, Rodgers needs to do something more. And there’s a full range of options, up to an including telling the Cheeseheads “smell ya later” and waiting maybe one or two days for the cash to fall from the sky.

77 responses to “Aaron Rodgers has plenty of leverage, if he chooses to use it

  1. Maybe the current strategy isn’t working because his contract is actually not as big of a deal as you are making it seem… you’re the only one really pushing this issue.

  2. Rogers is and has been the league’s second most important prima donna QB who, by good fortune, happens also to be the league’s best QB;

    since when do prima donnas sit back and take things quietly?

    it is almost guaranteed things are already getting nasty behind the scenes;

    it’s just that both sides know after witnessing the recent implosion in NE it in their best interest to keep up the facade of chees Camelot;

  3. Aaron is the opposite of Tom Brady. Both are great QBs. Aaron plays for money and will be in the HOF. Brady plays for Super Bowls and is in the conversation as the GOAT. What a difference. Don’t get me wrong, huge respect for Aaron. It’s just that his approach to football and championships is much different than Brady’s, and Brady’s has been more successful.

  4. No one deserves anything. You negotiate.
    If you make a decision to take less money over a long period, in order to get some guarantees, thats your choice. You gave up some upside.
    Its like buying life insurance. For most of us it’s a waste of money.
    But if you die (or get hurt in the NFL) you (or your family) are glad you had it.

    What leverage does Rodgers have? Sit out? Any player can do that.
    And oh by the way, pay back that pro rated signing bonus.
    So it will actually cost him money to sit out, on top of not earning >20MM.

  5. “He can be more aggressive and candid in his comments to the media. ” He starts doing that and he goes to bed as Aaron Rodgers and wakes up as Terrell Owens. See how that worked out for TO? Rodgers is way too smart to ever play that card.

  6. Dude why are you so obsessed over this? Why is this even a conversation? The Packers made him the highest paid player in history in 2013. Since then he hasn’t finished two seasons, He was average the year Jordy tore his ACL and he hasn’t exactly been Superman in the two NFCCG. Play out the final two, franchise another 2 and then take a look at things with a 39 year old QB. Also – he has zero leverage. Signed, Packers fan.

  7. Rodgers is underpaid, period. But he had to know that when he signed his last contract, which I believe made him the highest paid player in the NFL at the time, it would eventually be eclipsed. This could have been managed had Rodger’s agent demanded escalator clauses in his contract. They could have also demanded a shorter contract but that would have reduced Rodger’s guaranteed money. Rodgers can quit but he would have to return a percentage of his guaranteed bonuses. He can hold out as well. The Pack has leverage too and could theoretically keep him for 4 years at about $100M. Tough call. I am sure the Packers will eventually make Rodgers happy, at the risk of stripping the team of other talent due to the cap. This will likely make it difficult for the Pack return to the SB anytime soon.

  8. Maybe we don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. Just because it’s not done doesn’t mean it’s not being worked on. These type of deals are hard to do, we are talking about a contract that isn’t your typical contract. The creativity needed for a deal like this is going to take time.

  9. Rodgers could just be playing out camp and the preseason and then waiting to hold out before week 1 of the NFL season. That would put the ultimate pressure in the team to fork over the dollars immediately. I never understood why guys hold out early in the preseason as they don’t do anything but hurt their own conditioning. Sure you don’t want to get hurt but nothing says you have to go so hard that you risk injury.

  10. As a Vikings fan, I believe Rodgers should be the highest paid QB in the league. Also, as a Vikings fan, I hope you cripple your salary cap to make it happen.

  11. I just don’t know how much longer Rodgers can survive on just 22 mil a year. He should put the fear of god in management (cheap ball specialist) and say, screw the contract I’m not going to sign and will be moving on.

  12. Did anyone ever think that the pack maybe cant afford it. Pay him what he is worth and you need to build a team around him with un drafteds hoping he can carry the team alone.

  13. No player can have leverage when almost all contracts can be thrown in the trash. And when they have the franchise tag at their disposal, it’s even less. No player is going to sit during the regular season to make a point and lose money and possibly a year of service. The biggest issue in football isn’t the anthem issue, it’s contracts that are not guaranteed.

  14. Based on the market, Rodgers has earned a bigger contract BUT his current deal isn’t expired. The reason he doesn’t “operate that way” is because he knows how this works. He can throw a fit and demand a new contract but at the end of the day there are two undeniable truths: #1) he is legally obligated to honor hos contract or he forfeits his earnings. #2) The Green Bay Packers are bigger than Aaron Rodgers. The Packers existed before Rodgers and they will exist long after Rodgers retires. His most lucrative long-term option is to remain in good Grace’s with his current team and fanbase and to remain a likeable figure nationally. That will ensure that the big checks keep rolling in long after he stops playing QB.

  15. The reason NFL players don’t have more leverage is the only players who have it, QB, don’t use it. Rodgers and Ryan and the other great young QB’s could shift the tone completely if they wanted to. It’s a shame they don’t.

  16. Rodgers has made it clear that: (1) getting a new deal is “important to me”
    Yes, he said important to ME. He doesn’t care about the rest of the team. He has his lone SB win and that satisfied his SB cravings. All he’s interested in now is MONEY and putting his team 2nd and to play the hero with a Hail Mary here and there vs losing teams (since he’s 0-35 vs teams with a winning record entering the 4th Q and trailing by 1 or more)

    He’s not as quick as he used to be to get scramble away from defenders trying to sack him but yet he wants MORE money given to him instead of a better Offensive Lineman that can protect him better than the garbage OL GB has? That is typical of Rodegers, aka “Mr. ME ME ME”

  17. I can’t turn on the TV without seeing Aaron Rodgers in a commercial, and that’s because he’s a super bowl winning QB with a clean image. He’s taking in millions from those endorsements, and that’s only going to get better if he wins another super bowl. So in his case, he’ll actually make more money by taking less from the Packers. He went to CAL, so he’s already figured that out.

  18. The biggest issue in football isn’t the anthem issue, it’s contracts that are not guaranteed.
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    What would the incentive for the player be if they were guaranteed? Someone would get a fully guaranteed contract and then coast the rest of the way. An incentive laden guaranteed contract would be better.

    X years/ X million base with performance bonuses/incentives on all contracts would weed out the players that have no passion for the game or their team. If you’re a player that loafs, guess what – you don’t get paid as much. Simple as that but the NFLPA and agents would never agree to that because it would expose players and agents wouldn’t get the commission they want.

  19. ilthymcnasty3 says:
    July 28, 2018 at 12:01 pm
    At some point you have to ask yourself – what’s it worth to play in a state with quality cardiac healthcare

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    The Sparano family appreciates your humor. Typical pack fan.

  20. “At some point you have to ask yourself – what’s it worth to play in a state with quality cardiac healthcare?”
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    The man got laid to rest just yesterday. What the heck is wrong with you?! Sick.

  21. Packers have way more leverage here, Rodgers still has two years left and then they can franchise tag him for another two at an overall cost that would be under any new deal. I think there will be a new contract but the only real leverage Rodgers has is not turning up until it’s signed which in reality isn’t going to happen.

  22. AR remembers all to well how the Favre era ended in GB and doesn’t want a repeat. Favre is still not fully in good graces with all Packers fans to this day due to his insistence on “sticking it to the Packers” after Ted Thompson let him go. I’m always amazing that players act like they don’t control their agents. AR could tell his agent to sign the offer sitting on the table NOW if he wanted to. But these agents get a percentage of the deal so they’re negotiating for themselves too.

    I get it AR is underpaid at 22 million relative to some of these guys like the Vikings QB that hasn’t won a playoff game yet but has a fully guaranted contract. What Packer mgt is looking at is a 35 yr old QB that has had two recent season ending injuries and really has no legitimate backup QB on the roster. As we saw last year this team can only go where AR takes them. That’s why I see the draft moves by GB to bolster the defense is in long term preparation for his departure.

    AR should be smart enough as a Cal guy to know his legacy is only going to be as good as the number of SB wins he gets and the more greedy he gets, the less talent they can put around him, especially after hiring a GM that’s not afraid of free agency. One SB win is no better than Brett Favre who actually got to two SBs and has 3 MVPs. Suddenly at 35 yrs of age, although he has a record QB rating and awesome stats, the trophy case doesn’t look all that much different than BF or Marino. Get the deal done and get back to focusing on football.

  23. And there’s a full range of options, up to an including telling the Cheeseheads “smell ya later” and waiting maybe one or two days for the cash to fall from the sky.
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    That is easier said than done. That order lingers.

  24. because the Packers wouldn’t be dumb enough to shut him down for the full season and hand the baton to someone like DeShone Kizer or Brett Hundley.
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    Don’t be too sure about that after all it was the Packers who made them their backups in the first place.

  25. tinye67 says:
    July 28, 2018 at 12:27 pm
    “At some point you have to ask yourself – what’s it worth to play in a state with quality cardiac healthcare?”
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    The man got laid to rest just yesterday. What the heck is wrong with you?!
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    To answer your question he is a Packer fan. But if Clay Matthews gets a boo boo and you don’t cry for him Packer fans by the dozens will be in here complaining about that.

  26. If he WINS IT ALL, make him the highest paid player. This is the only leverage the team has to get him to hit the open guy. Incentivize 1: making the playoffs 2: HFA throughout the playoffs and 3: SB WIN.

    Give something, to get something. Hard to find a way to put it in a contract that you have to stay within the offense and not go sandlot, passing up open guys to heave it deep.

  27. Maybe they should wait to see if he can make it through the season first, behind that oline he’ll probably end up on IR again. Guy is soft

  28. dreemeagle says:
    July 28, 2018 at 10:13 am
    Rogers is and has been the league’s second most important prima donna QB who, by good fortune, happens also to be the league’s best QB;

    since when do prima donnas sit back and take things quietly?
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    OR maybe he really ISN’T a prima Donna…

    Unless being a prima Donna consists of getting frustrated, when ur coworkers don’t do their job right….

    Which in case everyone here is a prima Donna too.

  29. They have a third option, but they are very unlikely to exercise it, and that is to invite Colin Kaepernick in for a tryout. He is a better quarterback than their backups, and he has even beaten the Rodgers-led Packers several times in the playoffs and regular season. Kap is not as good as Rodgers of course, but his presence can put pressure on Rodgers to end his holdout. Of course, no team would touch Kap with a 10 foot pole, for some inexplicable reason.

  30. Aaron has leverage? Lol nope he does not. He’s under contract for two years, then he has two franchise tag years. Then in his age 39 season we will see if he has any leverage.

  31. Our Packers should just give Rodgers what he wants. He’s all we’ve got. We have no choice. Without him our Packers are dead. Aaron should agree to kick in some money to help fund the Teresa Halbach Burn Center. Maybe that would do it. Or he could lead the Green Bay community’s family togetherness movement. Or be the Grand Marshal in the local Pride Parade. Aaron does have choices.

  32. Filthy, at some point you need to ask yourself whether internet insults about a game are worth turning your soul to stone. Packer fan to Packer fan, you were way over the line, and you ought to apologize. I hope people realize that your comment in no way represents the feelings of most Packer backers.

  33. omeimontis says:
    July 28, 2018 at 1:39 pm
    They have a third option, but they are very unlikely to exercise it, and that is to invite Colin Kaepernick in for a tryout. He is a better quarterback than their backups, and he has even beaten the Rodgers-led Packers several times in the playoffs and regular season. Kap is not as good as Rodgers of course, but his presence can put pressure on Rodgers to end his holdout. Of course, no team would touch Kap with a 10 foot pole, for some inexplicable reason.
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    Blaine Gabbert is laughing at you.

  34. Rodgers still hasn’t said anything substantive, and the Packers still want to pay him what he’s worth. Why has it become so necessary to accommodate the fragile egos of Viking fans, by feeding their frenzy of all things Packer?

  35. As William Munny famously said to Little Bill Daggett, “Deserves got nuthin’ to do with it.”

    Rodgers willingly signed a contract. Just because the market rate for QB contracts passed him by doesn’t mean he ‘deserves’ to tear up his contract and demand more money. If he wants to consistently be the highest paid QB, then insist the Packers sign him to year-to-year deals with a kicker that he’ll automatically get a raise above any other QB’s contract signed.

  36. filthymcnasty3 says:
    July 28, 2018 at 12:01 pm
    At some point you have to ask yourself – what’s it worth to play in a state with quality cardiac healthcare?

    30 11 Rate This
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    I’ll ignore the 30 to 11 thumbs up/down ratio and continue to believe that a majority of Packer fans are better than this. Sporano was a good man and he deserves better than to have his death be a joking matter.

  37. Frazier28/7 says:
    July 28, 2018 at 1:12 pm
    Maybe they should wait to see if he can make it through the season first, behind that oline he’ll probably end up on IR again. Guy is soft
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    I don’t think that there is a starting QB in the NFL that is soft- you typically don’t get to that level and be one of the best at your position by being soft. Having bones break and tearing things doesn’t make you soft either. I don’t think of Sam Bradford or Teddy Bridgewater as soft, do you?

  38. jbvikes says:
    July 28, 2018 at 5:09 pm
    Bland and traditional – perfect description for this team.
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    If thirteen championships, including four SuperBowls, is bland and traditional……….what is no championships and no SuperBowl victories? Exciting and unique?

  39. “filthymcnasty3 says:
    July 28, 2018 at 12:01 pm
    At some point you have to ask yourself – what’s it worth to play in a state with quality cardiac healthcare?”

    Wow, you must be so proud of yourself. That is beyond low. I’m a Packers fan. We used to be known for being good fans. It’s really disappointing that you are one of ours.

  40. Packers would not give in to a holdout. And Rodgers would never hold out. Got me to comment on a hypothetical, though. Good job.

  41. Aaron Rodgers will not win another ring with this team. By the time they improve the other 21 positions he will be pushing 40 very hard.

  42. vikings1234 says:
    July 28, 2018 at 10:14 am
    Aaron is the opposite of Tom Brady. Both are great QBs. Aaron plays for money and will be in the HOF. Brady plays for Super Bowls and is in the conversation as the GOAT. What a difference. Don’t get me wrong, huge respect for Aaron. It’s just that his approach to football and championships is much different than Brady’s, and Brady’s has been more successful.

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    Another victim of “the Brady myth.”

    2018 Cap Hit: Rodgers $20,562,500
    Brady$22,000,000

    2019 Cap Hit: Rodgers $21,100,000
    Brady$22,000,000

  43. It will get done. Neither Arod nor the front office will want the matter to be discussed every week by Romo, Aikman, and the rest of the former QBs that call games. I can hear it now: if a deal isnt done, with every TD you’ll hear something like, “pay the man”.

  44. crownofthehelmet says:
    July 29, 2018 at 12:10 am
    Straight up trade – Rodgers for Flacco. Same player, same legacy.
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    Do you mean Aaron Rodgers, the guy that made Roethlisberger look silly by comparison in SuperBowl XLV? That Rodgers?

  45. The Almighty Cabbage says:

    Another victim of “the Brady myth.”

    2018 Cap Hit: Rodgers $20,562,500
    Brady$22,000,000

    2019 Cap Hit: Rodgers $21,100,000
    Brady$22,000,000
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    Another victim of “the Rodgers myth”…

    Salary for 2018:

    Rodgers – $19,800,000 + Roster Bonus of $600,000 and Workout Bonus of $500,000 = $20,900,000

    Brady – $15,000,000 – no roster or workout bonus

    These are the real numbers of the actual payments that Rodgers and Brady are contracted to receive this season.

  46. gtodriver says:
    July 29, 2018 at 1:27 pm

    Salary for 2018:

    Rodgers – $19,800,000 + Roster Bonus of $600,000 and Workout Bonus of $500,000 = $20,900,000

    Brady – $15,000,000 – no roster or workout bonus

    These are the real numbers of the actual payments that Rodgers and Brady are contracted to receive this season.

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    Wrong again. You left out the $7,000,000 signing bonus per year Brady got as part of his latest extension.

    $15,000,000 + $7,000,000 = $22,000,000

    You just never learn, do you?

  47. Why the thumbs down, little purple pals? As always, all I did was post the actual facts. It’s not my fault the goat-lover is wrong every time and just keeps coming back for more.

  48. Technically, the Brady’s contract for 2018 is 14 + 1 + 7 but I digress, arguing these number details is missing the point. The point of discussion should be how Brady at these numbers and with two years remaining on his contract is not crying for a new contract because others QBs now make more than he does (boo hoo hoo). What a team focused player that Brady.

  49. Stop trying to move the goal posts. Here’s the exact discussion: A Viking fan jumped into an Aaron Rodgers story, and with wrong information. I supplied the actual facts, as always. The goat-lover then jumped in with MORE wrong information and I busted him on it. Same old story. Purples can’t deal with facts. That’s your problem, not mine.

  50. OftenWrong, I see you are very active in the comments of this story but nowhere to be found on the prior Packer story where your fellow Packers fans called you out for being a dope. Hmmmmm, I wonder why that is?

  51. Really? Where is this? I just went over the last Packer story I commented on and there’s nothing to or about me. Do you mean the fake Packer fan in the Viking story about the new O-line coaches? I would have thought you were smart enough to recognize that one for what it is but apparently I overestimated you. Silly me.

    Back to the subject at hand. Brady is set to make more money than Rodgers this year and next, AND he was under contract when he signed this extension. Rodgers’ extension will leapfrog Brady. If Brady continues to play, his next extension will leapfrog Rodgers. This is how it works… with top tier quarterbacks… not that you’d know much about that.

    Your brain trust just handed out the largest contract in NFL history, fully guaranteed, to a guy that has a losing record over his entire career, been to one playoff game, and lost that one. So what do you do? You obsess about Aaron Rodgers, of course. That’s beautiful.

  52. I mean the /jordy-nelson-showing-no-signs-of-slowing-down-can-still-run story. Even you can’t find it or pretend not to see it lots and lots of others see it. 🙂

  53. Wow! The Viking trolls preach about how annoying it is when Packer fans show up on Viking threads……….yet here they are!

  54. Technically, the Brady’s contract for 2018 is 14 + 1 + 7 but I digress, arguing these number details is missing the point. The point of discussion should be how Brady at these numbers and with two years remaining on his contract is not crying for a new contract because others QBs now make more than he does (boo hoo hoo)
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  55. Technically, the Brady’s contract for 2018 is 14 + 1 + 7 but I digress, arguing these number details is missing the point. The point of discussion should be how Brady at these numbers and with two years remaining on his contract is not crying for a new contract because others QBs now make more than he does (boo hoo hoo)
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    Not technically. That’s what Brady counts against the Patriots cap.

    Who’s to say Brady’s agent hasn’t approached the Patriots about a new contract? We’ll never know.

    And 90% of the talk about Rodgers this offseason has come from the Packers front office. Rodgers hasn’t said much about it at all.

  56. cheeseisfattening says:
    July 29, 2018 at 8:52 pm

    I mean the /jordy-nelson-showing-no-signs-of-slowing-down-can-still-run story. Even you can’t find it or pretend not to see it lots and lots of others see it. 🙂

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    Even though I never commented on that story at all (and as always, I strongly encourage anybody and everybody to check for themselves), I suppose it’s possible that “lots and lots of others see it.” I mean, let’s face it; if nothing else, we’ve established over the years that some people see all kinds of things that aren’t there.

    I have a nearly fool-proof method for not getting tripped up in these discussions and it’s not even hard. I check my facts and I tell the truth. It’s a real shame that more people on here don’t do the same.

  57. Ya ever notice the people who are always telling you how smart they are are just not that smart. Real smart people do not need to tell you.

    I am not surprised you can’t figure out you don’t need to post on a story to have your fellow fans laughing at you on that story.

    Here is just 1 example of where I showed OftenWrong where he was wrong. .05 of 1 percent? 15 years is short? Notice how I don’t gloat how I was right and he was wrong. I just lay out the facts. That’s a big difference in us. And OftenWrong, you know I can pull these stories where you were wrong all day since I was the one to showed you how to use a search engine to pull old stories.

    You

    The Almighty Cabbage says:
    August 14, 2016 at 7:27 pm
    You mean that whopping .o5 of one percent that was added to the sales tax short term? Yeah, that was a real back-breaker there, Jethro. It would have taken ten thousand years for that to have added up to what Ziggy gacked you mutts out of in one fell swoop.
    The best part is knowing that he’ll do it again very, very soon, simply because your plastic little McStadium is disposable… much like the team that plays there. Not even a billion dollars could buy you any lasting relevance.

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    cheeseisfattening says:
    August 14, 2016 at 8:24 pm
    You mean that whopping .o5 of one percent that was added to the sales tax short term?
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    Yes, the .05% sales tax that paid 20 mil a year for 15 years that cost the Brown county tax payers 300 million in lambeau field renovations.
    As opposed to 150 mil covered by a hospitality tax in Minneapolis.
    Jethro. (whatever that is supposed to mean?)

  58. It has nothing to do with smart; it’s just simple fact checking and telling the truth. You should try them sometime.

    Ziggy beat you out of 1.2 BILLION dollars. Only a tiny part of it was via that “hospitality” tax. I may have exaggerated just a bit, though. At $20m per year it would only have taken SIX thousand years for the Brown County tax to equal that 1.2 BILLION dollars slick Zygi slid right onto the backs of the MN taxpayers.

    And Brady STILL makes more than Aaron Rodgers.

    Why can’t you learn? The facts are what the facts are; they’re not going to change, no matter how many identities you switch to, how hard you stomp your little purple feet, how many names you call me, or how much you cry.

    Keep lobbing ’em in there, coach, and I’ll keep hittin’ ’em out of the park!

  59. Not only were you wrong on the post I pasted with your .05 Of 1 percent for a short time but also aaron kampman being a lb, the Packers not needing corporate help to avoid a blackout and the everlasting Norris division nick name comes from the Vikings being called Norsemen are others of your classics. You don’t get the name OftenWrong for nothing.

    Now back to your own Packer fans laughing at you…

  60. 1.2 BILLION is ALWAYS going to be a lot more than 300 million. Maths are hard.

    Kampmann was to be moved to OLB but refused… not that there’s much difference between a 3-4 OLB and a 4-3 DE. These days, everyone just calls them EDGE. But sure, I mistyped that one. Yaaaay, you!

    The Packers didn’t need help. Season ticket holders didn’t buy them at the first opportunity because it looked like they wouldn’t make the playoffs. If those tickets had hit the secondary market they would have sold out rapidly. Just because some local businesses got smart and snapped them up for promotional purposes doesn’t equate to need. Most people understand that… and your goofy insistence otherwise is just one reason nobody takes you seriously.

    Norse
    noun
    1. the Norwegian language, especially in its medieval form.
    2. Norwegians or Scandinavians, especially in medieval times.

    And Tom Brady STILL makes more than Aaron Rodgers.

    Your obsession is hitting whole new levels of creepy… and you still can’t make me love you.

  61. , I mistyped that one. Yaaaay, you!

    Actually you did not misstype that one, you tried to pass it off by your mistake them by saying “you were lying” which is what you are doing now. Mr. I look everything up.

    None of those points account for your wrong comments . Try addressing your .05 of 1 percent instead of changing it to what the Vikings were taxed.

    Quoting a dictionary has no bearing on what Berman’s quoted meaning is.

    OftenWrong as usual.

    Oh and…
    Still ignoring you’re fellow fans laughing at you.

  62. btw, here is your “typo”

    The Almighty Cabbage says:
    July 4, 2017 at 4:28 pm
    cheeseisfattening says:
    Jul 4, 2017 3:30 PM

    Reminds me of when they forced Aaron Kampman to move to OLB. That was a complete failure so sure let’s try it again with this guy.
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    Kampman’s 3 best years came at OLB (in ’06, ’07 and ’08). Pro Bowl in ’07 and ’08, injured in 2009. Decided he didn’t want to play OLB anymore and went to Jacksonville in 2010, while the Packers went on to win their 4th Super Bowl.

    That’s abject failure, alright… in your world, where a losing record over the past dozen years is cheered wildly.

  63. Honestly, all I remember is that I mislabeled Kampmann as an OLB instead of a DE, even though there’s little difference. Nobody’s perfect.

    The sales tax discussion was all about what Zygi gacked you out of. You tried to justify your 1.2 BILLION dollar hosing with a temporary sales tax that amounted to peanuts, comparatively. Again I say, maths are hard… for some people.

    Have it your way. For you, and everyone else that doesn’t know the history, the correct spelling, OR the difference between a one syllable word and a two syllable word, the Minnesota Norrismen it is. I encourage you to use it always. Why should we be the only ones lucky enough to see how smart you are?

    We’ve already established you lied about the last thing… but as always, I encourage people to go check for themselves. It’s right there for all to see.

    And Brady STILL makes more than Rodgers. You know, the actual point of discussion here, before you started exhibiting just how deeply obsessed you are with me. You can’t make me love you and you really should get some professional help. This level of obsession just isn’t healthy.

  64. Nobody’s perfect.
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    You supposedly are because you always look things up first. Just read above. Yes everyone makes mistake . Not everyone harps on others mistakes then claims to be incapable like you. So here some of your mistakes mr. I look everything up.

    The tax conversation was nothing of the like. You were blathering on about Zygi stealing by getting tax money. I reminded you Green Bay got tax money too. You then said “what .05 of 1 percent for a short period of time” which I then corrected and you tried and are still trying to turn into who got more. .05 of 1 percent is not correct. Period.

    I never really commented on the brady/rodgers pay conversation other than to say your fellow fans were laughing at you.

  65. I never claimed to be perfect and I don’t look everything up. But before I jump in on something like contracts, I absolutely check.

    If the Brown County tax, which is over with and would have taken six THOUSAND years to match that 1.2 BILLION, makes you feel better about what Zygi did, go with it. I’m perfectly happy with how many of my tax dollars went to Lambeau and how many of yours went to the McStadium. And just think, you’ll get to do it all over again in another 20 years or so.

    Right, you never commented on the discussion I was having, at least under the Cheesie name, you just launched right into your creepy obsession with me.

    You can’t make me love you. Get some help.

  66. I live Seattle. Taxes in brown county or Minnesota mean nothing to me. I’m just pointing out your incorrect belief on what brown county taxes were.
    And i do enjoy pointing out where you have been wrong when you act like arrogant buffoon when another is wrong.

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