Eagles players unclear on helmet rule after meeting with officials

AP

Eagles players met with NFL officials to get a better understanding of the new rules governing the use of helmets that have been put into effect this season, but one of the team’s linebackers said they left the meeting without realizing that goal.

During the meeting, Eagles players were shown video of plays that would now be considered illegal and then showed officials a video of safety Malcom Jenkins’ hit that knocked Patriots wide receiver Brandin Cooks out of the Super Bowl with a concussion. The play did not result in a flag in February and the officials were split on whether it would now draw a flag, which is why Nigel Bradham still felt unclear when the meeting ended.

“We were trying to ask questions to get a better understanding, and yet they couldn’t really give us an answer,” Bradham said, via ESPN.com. “They couldn’t give us what we were looking for.”

Running back Matt Jones said it was “definitely going back and forth” between players and officials regarding what would be deemed illegal contact under the new rules. Ultimately, though, Jones said the players will have to abide by the rules and coach Doug Pederson said it’s up to him to make sure the players know exactly what those rules are.

“We did spend a little time with the officials that are here this week the other night, just to clarify some things,” Pederson said in comments distributed by the team. “And it’s really a nice forum for our team to ask questions. If there is something that they’re not familiar with or not sure of, and it’s just any rule. But my job is to make sure that our guys are well-educated on the points of emphasis, the new rule changes. And then our coaches are well-versed, and so we can continue to communicate and teach our players when we’re out here on the field.”

The Eagles aren’t the only people unsure just how the new rules are going to change the way games are played this season. With the preseason kicking off next weekend, there should start to be some idea about the answer to that question soon.

79 responses to “Eagles players unclear on helmet rule after meeting with officials

  1. So refs who don’t fully understand the rule are trying to explain it to players who don’t find the explanation adequate.

    The league will later act shocked at the number of violations in the first couple weeks and claim they made every effort to get the players to understand the poorly defined and explained rule changes.

  2. Football is a violent sport. NFL wants to arbitrarily penalize hits deemed too violent. We’ve got the Tom Brady don’t hit the quarterback low rule. We have the hitting a defenseless receiver rule. Let’s keep adding stupid rules until we legislate violent physical contact out of the game entirely.

  3. But people wants to say that Roquon Smith is being selfish for holding out from signing his contract mainly because of this rule. This helmet rule will all but likely end up worse and more confusing than the catch rule.

  4. New ridiculously vague rules combined with 4 veteran head referees retiring and a league office that can’t even explain the rules…

    Why did Roger Dodger get a new contract again?

  5. johnpascual15 says:
    July 29, 2018 at 5:13 pm
    Football is a violent sport. NFL wants to arbitrarily penalize hits deemed too violent. We’ve got the Tom Brady don’t hit the quarterback low rule. We have the hitting a defenseless receiver rule. Let’s keep adding stupid rules until we legislate violent physical contact out of the game entirely.

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    Actually that rule was instituted after Carson Palmer was injured. But let’s not let the facts impact your hate and misery

  6. nhpats says:
    July 29, 2018 at 5:24 pm
    johnpascual15 says:
    July 29, 2018 at 5:13 pm
    Football is a violent sport. NFL wants to arbitrarily penalize hits deemed too violent. We’ve got the Tom Brady don’t hit the quarterback low rule. We have the hitting a defenseless receiver rule. Let’s keep adding stupid rules until we legislate violent physical contact out of the game entirely.

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    Actually that rule was instituted after Carson Palmer was injured. But let’s not let the facts impact your hate and misery
    +++++++++++++++++
    Should we talk about destroying video tapes and cell phones instead?

  7. This will be one of those rules that some refs call all the time and some don’t call at all. There will be absolutely no consistency to it. Then a few years from now, they will make changes to clarify it like they did this year with the catch rule. I’m anxious to see how that turns out. Hopefully, it actually makes some sense now.

  8. patriotmaleorgy says:
    July 29, 2018 at 5:28 pm
    nhpats says:
    July 29, 2018 at 5:24 pm
    johnpascual15 says:
    July 29, 2018 at 5:13 pm
    Football is a violent sport. NFL wants to arbitrarily penalize hits deemed too violent. We’ve got the Tom Brady don’t hit the quarterback low rule. We have the hitting a defenseless receiver rule. Let’s keep adding stupid rules until we legislate violent physical contact out of the game entirely.

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    Actually that rule was instituted after Carson Palmer was injured. But let’s not let the facts impact your hate and misery
    +++++++++++++++++
    Should we talk about destroying video tapes and cell phones instead?

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    We could. I just got a new iPhone two weeks ago. I have to return the old one to corporate. You know what I did? I deleted everything on the old phone so it will be completely reset when I return it.

  9. Stop harping on video tapes and broken cell phones and deflated footballs- that cheating is all in the past
    -Julian Edelman

  10. Looks like I will be watching more college football this year than NFL games. NFL’s product is going down the toilet as well as due to their political stance

  11. Word around the league is general managers feel Nick Foles is afraid to be the man ,no big contract for him in the future !

  12. mroklahoma says:
    July 29, 2018 at 5:43 pm
    Looks like I will be watching more college football this year than NFL games. NFL’s product is going down the toilet as well as due to their political stance .

    The college game refs call way more roughness penalties than the NFL , Players get ejected .Sounds like you don’t watch either just here to comment .. are you a Russian spy .

  13. At some point lineman will just get out of their stance and play pattycake….

  14. Roquan Smiths agent, is going to look at this as an example of why he needs clarification, in his contract, for a confusing rule that will no doubt effect his client.

  15. Like Nick Foles Jason Kelce said he’s fine with being the backup saxophonist for the Quaker City String Band

  16. Let’s just call it what it is…, The owners liability rule, not the helmet rule.Players wear helmets because they are going to collide.

  17. This is why ratings are down. Not the protest but because players nor the fans know the rules. The play on the field needs fixing.

  18. Right now Elmer is at the plate, having struck out 4 times, he’s a good hitter, just having an off day.

  19. NFC East
    Iggles 10-6
    Giants 9-7
    Cowboys 9-7
    RedSkins 9-7
    Iggles lose at home to the Giants in the Divisional Round
    Giants at home beat Rams in NFC Championship Game
    Giants beat Patriots for third time in Super Bowl getting their 5th Lombardi Trophey

  20. However the refs are going to call the rule, the most important part is to call it consistently…..from the beginning of the year to the end of the year…..from the first play of the game until the last. If teams start getting hosed at the end of games, there’ll be hell to pay

  21. 700level are you saying my words have fell silent just like the Phillies Bats ?

  22. The 1st place Phillies… Not too worry, they will bathe themselves in coconut oil and win the draft vision.

  23. If the hit on Cook isn’t a penalty what have they got to worry about? It’s the Shazier rule. Don’t spear And you won’t get penalized/fined/suspended. Clear as mud!

  24. umassdebatingteam says:
    July 29, 2018 at 5:44 pm
    Just further evidence that the 2017 Eagles were both the stupidest and luckiest team to ever win a Super Bowl.

    8 14 Rate This
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    Fly Eagles Fly!
    13-3 Regular season
    15-10
    38-7
    41-33
    How sweet it is.
    I love it every time a bitter rival fan reminds me who the champions are.

  25. I love these bitter giants fans constantly whining about the eagles! The funny thing is, even when they had good teams, they were still the eagles punching bag. And talking about the eagles being lucky? Apparently they don’t know who David tyree is. SB52 Champs!

  26. Giants have a qb who sells fake memorabilia to their own fans, a punter who beats his spouse, and a CB who owns a house someone was murdered in. Classy bunch I must say.

  27. 700level if it’s batting avg your looking for
    Super Bowls
    Giants 4 for 5 Avg .800
    Iggles 1 for 3. Avg.333

  28. This is all a direct result of the concussion lawsuits. If the NFL does institute the rules, then everyone (players included) complain that it’s impossible to play the game the way they need to, yet if the NFL doesn’t institute the rules then the players will sue the league after they’re done playing, saying the league new about potential implications and still didn’t implement new rules.

    It’s a lose-lose for the NFL. As someone who thinks the NFL has made a lot of mistakes over the past handful of years, it’s the players themselves causing the rule changes.

  29. Elmerbrownelmerbrown after this year it will be
    5
    4
    3
    2
    And I’m just fine with that, how about you ?

  30. Hey elmer, the skins, cowboys and giants also have a combined 57 seasons with no titles. The Eagles are the current champs and the model franchise in the NFL. Your envy obviously runs deep.

  31. umassdebatingteam says:
    July 29, 2018 at 5:44 pm
    Just further evidence that the 2017 Eagles were both the stupidest and luckiest team to ever win a Super Bowl.

    8 14 Rate This

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    LMAO that’s hilarious. Lucky is not smashing on almost every team they played. I guess this is the time of year when a lot of teams have their delusional dreams. As a life long Eagles fan the one team in the division I have always had respect for was the Giants but being on PFT for so long is starting to make me lose that as well. But it has also made me dislike some of my fellow Eagles fans that just jumped on the bandwagon to troll others. Have some class. Fly Eagles Flt

  32. I’m thinking about getting a new tattoo. In the true sense of the word. It will be Concrete Charlie with a fist raised, over Frank Gifford lying on the field waiting for Kathy Lee 3 decades later. Lol.

  33. We could. I just got a new iPhone two weeks ago. I have to return the old one to corporate. You know what I did? I deleted everything on the old phone so it will be completely reset when I return it.
    ====================

    I guess all the people down voting this comment don’t erase their computers, tablets or phones when they upgrade or recycle them. Then they wonder how their identities were stolen.

  34. If a rule isn’t crytal clear then there is a big problem.
    It should be plainly obvious what is a foul/penalty/illegal.

    Its one thing if a bang/bang play is very close, it’s another if you can’t say with almost certainty “Thats a penalty”.

  35. Why not just ignor dopey fools like elmerbrown who constantly contribute nothing at all. He is just an old donkey, who has no life (constantly posting) and needs to feel as if his knowledge, or more like lack of,of the game is the Golden Rule in sports. Instead of acknowledging his idiocy may be just ignor him instead.

  36. They can’t get a real answer because the real answer is shady. This is an entertainment option and the players are just actors on the stage. The TV folks and the league will direct and produce the drama in different ways throughout the season so that the most money can be made. It isn’t about individual plays because it is more about the overall product season by season. Ambiguous rules and centralized replay decisions allow it to be more precise.

  37. 700level you should add the Lombardi Trophy to the tattoo it only took 6 decades waiting for that !

  38. Elmer, you’re almost as pathetically laughable as Logical, and gaining fast. What a joke. Get some new material.

  39. I don’t understand why this is so difficult for the NFL. Just make a no spearing rule, something that is obvious. The issue with this is that even “proper tackling” requires one to lower their head. It’s also a game of leverage, which requires a player to get lower. For a player to be safe, their spin should be aligned. Are they expecting players to play while being totally vertical?

  40. tvguy22 geeze,,, lighten up your team ,my team ,,whoever’s team is yours if your not on the team or in the organization and a championship actually changes your life I would say you needed a life to begin with

  41. Most iggle fans I come in touch with are still living a miserable existence even though the iggles won a championship

  42. I got the iggles winning the division at 10-6 after a Super Bowl year which is pretty good ,but yet somehow iggle fans make me the bad guy !

  43. Don’t be dumb, learn how to tackle.

    Anything that is borderline using the helmet …don’t do it. You’re a professional football player after all act like one.

  44. Eagles fans have a Super Bowl win and everything that comes with it.

    Guys like Elmer have sad feelings and need a nap.

  45. Well, another firefighter died fighting the Yosemite fire. They aren’t getting paid anywhere near what these players are. If they are worried their job is dangerous, join the army, be a cop or a firefighter, maybe they can find something safer that pays more (sarcasm). Let’s just restore football to its original “jacked up” glory and let em play.

  46. Riveron’s got to go. This year’s gonna be a nightmare. He doesn’t know how to handle replay and the refs have no confidence in him. That’s why Steratore and McAuley quit.

  47. elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
    July 29, 2018 at 5:52 pm

    Word around the league is general managers feel Nick Foles is afraid to be the man ,no big contract for him in the future !

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    Seriously. What went wrong for you? Was it the overly strict toilet training?

  48. Makes perfect sense that they refs could not come to a unanimous decision on the Cooks hit. That would be admitting to one of many screw ups in that game. This year will be no different. Penalties will be called more on reputation than on actual plays. Of course there is that whole season outcome managing that people have been muling about since NE won their first. I suppose they have to play it fair all the other years, right children?

  49. nhpats says:
    July 29, 2018 at 5:32 pm

    Should we talk about destroying video tapes and cell phones instead?

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    We could. I just got a new iPhone two weeks ago. I have to return the old one to corporate. You know what I did? I deleted everything on the old phone so it will be completely reset when I return it.

    ____

    Well then, by the court of public opinion, you obviously are guilty of something and should be penalized on a preponderance of evidence.

  50. If the league REALLY wants to eliminate these “head-hunting” type hits, they could just eliminate the fumble rule. At it’s core, most of these spearing type tackles are a result of defensive coaches teaching and praising players who separate the ball from the offensive player to get the ball back to the offense. If there is no reward to the act, then there is no reason for it. Coaches would begin to admonish players for their poor tackling techniques because, let’s face it, trying to hit someone with your helmet is pretty much the most ineffective way to tackle.

  51. What the NFL should do is have each player wear a lightweight helmet sort of like amateur boxing to display the type of play that is the goal. It’s just thinking of the helmet as a safety device, not as something you can use for competitive advantage.

  52. As a life long Eagles fan the one team in the division I have always had respect for was the Giants but being on PFT for so long is starting to make me lose that as well. But it has also made me dislike some of my fellow Eagles fans that just jumped on the bandwagon to troll others. Have some class. Fly Eagles Flt
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    AND nobody cares…and I’m not a Giant fan, but I believe most of the eagle fans have been more annoying than most (win or lose)…

  53. If these PLAYERS are still not sure about this “helmet rule,” then how are the new officials going to be clear? SMH.

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