Matt Nagy: Roquan Smith talks are “at a stalemate”

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The Bears don’t sound optimistic about getting their first-round draft pick on the practice field soon.

Bears coach Matt Nagy said today that talks between the team and linebacker Roquan Smith are stuck and going nowhere, although Nagy said he wouldn’t address the issue beyond that.

“It is at a stalemate, but at the same time I’m not going to get into any more of where it’s at publicly. I don’t think it’s fair to him, I don’t think it’s fair to his agent, I don’t think it’s fair to our organization. We’re going to keep it between us and I think that’s the best thing to do right now,” Nagy said.

The Bears want language in Smith’s contract that would void his guaranteed money if he gets suspended. Smith and his agent think that’s unfair, given that the NFL passed a new rule this offseason that could result in players getting suspended for lowering their helmets on hits. Smith doesn’t want to risk getting suspended over an ill-defined rule and therefore losing all his guaranteed money.

So Smith remains the only unsigned draft pick in the NFL. And given Nagy’s “stalemate” description, he may remain that way for a while.

64 responses to “Matt Nagy: Roquan Smith talks are “at a stalemate”

  1. the Bears have made the playoffs once in the last 10 years, so yeah, why help out a guy a little who has the potential to be one of your most talented players?

  2. Stand your ground Bears.
    Do not let that kid back you down. He has proved nothing yet in this league. Make him grovel, make him beg to sign. Make him beg to Ms. McCaskey, and then humiliate him

  3. It’s ironic that he’s the last player signed and the GM has stated their team has several other clients on their team from the same agency. This is a direct indictment on how Ryan Pace has handled this

  4. Always so hard to find middle ground. Why not add language that voids guarantee money only if suspended for personal conduct (activities off the field). Seems pretty simple but nothing ever as easy as should be.

  5. if that’s the biggest impediment it should have been a simple compromise of his guaranteed money only being voided for a suspension resulting from off field behavior. If i had to guess it seems like Smith wont relent to losing his guaranteed money from off field behavior and hes spinning it like it’s because of the new rule about lowering the helmet.

  6. Pretty pathetic Pace can’t strike a deal. This isn’t much of a concession since the money wouldn’t be available for the cap. They aren’t talking off field stuff and I don’t think any player should agree to this with how the rules constantly change.

  7. SundayPsychic says:

    July 31, 2018 at 7:03 pm

    if that’s the biggest impediment it should have been a simple compromise of his guaranteed money only being voided for a suspension resulting from off field behavior. If i had to guess it seems like Smith wont relent to losing his guaranteed money from off field behavior and hes spinning it like it’s because of the new rule about lowering the helmet.

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    So please tell me how is he just spinning it to make it about the rule, when the head coach of the Bears said in a interview that the helmet rule has something to do with it. Ima guess next you going believe he’s forcing the head coach to say that?

  8. A joke is how you learned to spell that’s “Bears”
    It’s both sides protecting their asses if I remember Bosa did it last year with the chargers

  9. How about the Bears agree to not take any guaranteed money this year, but if he proves that he is getting suspended, they reopen the contract details for next year.

  10. You’d be crazy to play defense in a league where they fine on suspend you and you lose your guaranteed money for a bang-bang play if you miss by an inch

  11. If the Bears aren’t offering to give him a pass on any suspension related to the helmet rule but still voiding it for another suspension, like drugs or something, they’re idiots. If the player wants the guarantees despite ANY suspension the Bears are in a far stronger position.

  12. Seemingly easy answer: if the suspension is because of a lowered helmet, no money is forfeit.

  13. Why should the Bears guarantee to pay a player that won’t agree to follow the rules? The Bears have shown grace to other players with their money. The Bears definitely aren’t cheap. I can’t believe Smith would rather sit out than join the team.

  14. Lots of tongue in cheek comments on this thread … lighten up gang, he’ll get his $$$$$$

  15. I know the anthem controversy is big news but THIS is the biggest news in the new NFL. A new rule was put in place that makes NO sense and appears to be unexplainable by officials to the players. Then the bears say that if this new stud of a linebacker breaks that rule that today nobody really knows what it is he’ll lose all his guaranteed money.. this is not a Bears or Roguan issue this is a league wide issue for Billion dollar business being run by a Clown.

  16. He’s right to worry about the new rule. It was just created to make sure the refs can rig the games based on the gambling lines. Or keep giving help to the cheaters from NE.

  17. You want to get rid of rules like this? You want to get the players to be more careful about their tackling and not use their helmets as weapons? Take helmets away, put them back in leatherheads and watch the game change for the better. It might slow down a bit but I guarantee more care will be paid by the players.

  18. The only money that matter in an NFL contract is the guaranteed money. No player in his right mind should sign a contract that voids guaranteed money. Gms already backload contracts to make cuts easier I wouldn’t give up the up front money too.

  19. Pace is a joke. How much money did he waste on Glennon? Now, they can’t get their top draft pick signed because they are worried about the violation of an ambiguous tackling rule. I don’t blame Smith for holding out. The delay is probably because of the clown with the purse strings – Phillips. He’s got to go.

  20. Potentially one of the top NFL players, acquired on a rookie deal,aka acquired on the cheap for 5 yeaars……and the Bears are at stalemate on a clause? Cheap Charley Bears shame shame same Mckaskey’s !!!!

  21. bam5239 says:
    July 31, 2018 at 11:01 pm
    The only money that matter in an NFL contract is the guaranteed money. No player in his right mind should sign a contract that voids guaranteed money. Gms already backload contracts to make cuts easier I wouldn’t give up the up front money too.

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    Other than this being a rookie contract and likely NOT backloaded, You stole my post. LOL My sentiments exactly. Insane to threaten guaranteed money, especially on a rookie wage scale.

  22. Who knows? This is in the hands of contract lawyers. I suspect the new contract rule is being used as leverage against voidable language in general.

  23. Why don’t the Bears just counter with field-related suspensions not counting? That would either solve the issue entirely or show that Smith really isn’t concerned about the new helmet rules.

    Recurring theme with most of these rookie holdouts remains the cheapness/pettiness of NFL teams. Rookie deals are already so incredibly cheap from what they just recently were. Yet, cheap teams are going to be cheap and try to claw back even more. And in some cases the core issue seems to be the team trying to send a message of who is charge but since rookie deals have fewer moving parts they end up digging in on stupid trivialities to make their point.

  24. Only positive is they have 5 preseason games this year. If they can sign him by Sunday, still could get some playing time before season starts.

  25. I agree with the player on this, these tackling rules are ridiculous and it would be easy to make a mistake and get suspended. The bears are idiots for pushing this issue, If I am the player here I am not going to forget this when my rookie contract expires.

  26. As bad as the Chargers looked for pushing the off-set language with Joey Bosa, this is far worse.

    Teams are absolutely idiotic for nit-picking players like this.

  27. Instead of a compromise, Smith should up the ante. If they want to void all his guarantees because of a possible on field violation of a grotesquely vague new rule, he needs to ask that his entire contract be voided, allowing him to become a free agent. If the team is unwilling to risk him as an asset because of the new rule, they should not ask him to risk all his guarantees.

  28. @SundayPsychic says:

    if that’s the biggest impediment it should have been a simple compromise of his guaranteed money only being voided for a suspension resulting from off field behavior. If i had to guess it seems like Smith wont relent to losing his guaranteed money from off field behavior and hes spinning it like it’s because of the new rule about lowering the helmet.
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    If he doesn’t have a history of bad behavior, why put it in the contract. Since you had to guess, why did you guess the player would be at fault and spinning it? The Bears are pretty stupid.

  29. @dieseldailey says:

    Why should the Bears guarantee to pay a player that won’t agree to follow the rules? The Bears have shown grace to other players with their money. The Bears definitely aren’t cheap. I can’t believe Smith would rather sit out than join the team.
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    Now this is the funniest post I’ve seen today.

  30. Nice job Bears. Hire a new coach (who put on a heck of a sell job to keep Fangio), and then submarine them both by not getting your 1st-round pick into camp.

    This organization can’t find its kiester with both hands.

  31. Owners looking for an out to avoid a player’s last bastion of financial security (guarantees)? You don’t say.

  32. The thing is the Bears drafted him because he’s a heat seeking missile on the field, a guy who makes big, game changing hits all over the field and now they want him to change the way he plays and be less aggressive and if he doesn’t and gets fined and/or suspended they want him to forfeit his money??? That’s INSANE…the whole reason you drafted the guy is BECAUSE of his big, game changing hits and aggressiveness all over the field…OMG, Pace is nuts!!! The old Bears regime was clueless regarding just about everything football related but the one thing they did do right was they were always one of the 1st teams to get their entire draft classes signed and in camp. This is monumentally embarrassing for the Bears, they are the LAST team in the entire NFL (yes, even the Jets and Browns included) to have not signed their 1st round draft pick…look around you Pace, what do all those other GM’s know that you don’t? This is a nice way to alienate the guy who is probably going to be one of if not the best player on your team and the future leader of your defense…how much faith and warm fuzzies do you think Roquan has for the Bears organization? What do you think the odds are that he plays out his rookie contract once he eventually signs and then bolts in free agency for a team that has a clue what it’s doing!

  33. Bears fans should be threatening to boycott the games over this. McCaskey family continues to show their ineptitude. This is what happens when people are gifted things they don’t earn on their own. You end up with complete incompetence.

  34. “Why don’t the Bears just counter with field-related suspensions not counting? ”

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    This is what Smith has been offering the whole time. Bears position is absolutely absurd, they are completely incompetent at Hallas Hall. McCaskey family has been holding city hostage for more than 3 decades.

    I still hold a grudge they let Wilbur Marshall go. Last year it was Alshon Jeffrey.
    Morons.

  35. I agree that the Bears need to put an end to this and get this man into camp….but the whole “Bears are cheap” is way overused nowadays. The Bears haven’t been afraid to spend (peppers, cutler, glennon). I loved Alshon but I wouldn’t have paid that man either to always be hurt and not a true #1.

  36. Frankly, I don’t think this is one the Bears organization or on the player. The reason why this is an issue is the league put out a rule that could be interpreted any number of a different ways, cost players a lot of game checks, and could potentially be used to sway games. The NFL screwed this up. They need to fix it right away.

  37. I have to agree. Why should the Bears guarantee to pay a player that won’t agree to follow the rules? If he doesn’t have a history of bad behavior, why put it in the contract.

  38. Shame to lose a draft pick, but let him go back into draft next year. Maybe get picked in the 3rd round. See how much money he loses going that route.

  39. In 2017 the top 21 picks had FULLY guaranteed contracts, and at least that many in 2018… yet the Bears don’t understand that GUARANTEED means that the player gets ALL OF IT. The Bears brass knew that the #8 overall pick would require a FULLY GUARANTEED contract, yet they’re now stalemating the process because they want to keep they’re hands in Smith’s wallet. Smith & his agent are fools if they buckle, which means the Bears are without their starting ILB… pure stupidity.

  40. TashanHarrison – Wheres the interview Nagy said that? Nagy commented it’s at a stalemate nothing more and that he wouldn’t comment further. The reporter here is inferring that it’s from the helmet rule, that’s not a quote by Nagy.

  41. If I were the Bears I’d let him sit forever. I’m beginning to wonder if he wants to play at all? I would never deal with that agency again…. Jerks.

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