With Stefon Diggs getting paid, Adam Thielen may be in line for a raise

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Vikings receiver Stefon Diggs is getting paid like a No. 1, even though he was No. 2 in production last year to Adam Thielen. And Thielen is getting paid like a No. 2. Or No. 3.

Diggs now sits at $14.4 million per year, nearly $10 million more per year than Thielen’s annual average of $4.8 million. Per a league source, Thielen and the Vikings talked about an adjusted deal in March. At this point, the thinking is that the sudden gap between Diggs and Thielen won’t be closed until after the 2018 season.

Thielen, who generated more receiving yards last season than any Vikings player not named Randy Moss or Cris Carter, signed his contract before a breakout season of 2017. And given that he was an undrafted free agent who wasn’t even invited to the Scouting Combine, it was impossible for Thielen to pass on a $4 million signing bonus, which was the first installment of a four-year deal worth more than $19 million, with $11 million guaranteed.

For a guy who could have been as low as No. 4 on the depth chart last year, it was an offer he couldn’t refuse. Now, however, Thielen has three years remaining on his contract, and he has every reason to believe that a disparity exists.

It will be very interesting to see what the Vikings do with Thielen. As a guy who probably never expected to do much of anything in the NFL, every dollar he earns can be regarded as found money. But with Diggs finding his way into the top 10 at the position when he may not be the top option on his own team, it’s fair for Thielen to wonder if he’ll get a raise with time left on his current contract.

48 responses to “With Stefon Diggs getting paid, Adam Thielen may be in line for a raise

  1. It just shows how exceptional that Spielman has been in handling this roster, seeing the talent early with Thielen, not waiting to sign him later, and signing all the core guys over the last 2 years: Harrison Smith, Rhodes, Griffen, Kendricks, Hunter, Thielen, and Diggs. ALL are MAJOR contributors to this team-the core. Add Cousins and Sheldon Richardson as FAs and 2nd year player Dalvin Cook to the mix, and this team is LOADED.

    Put Zimmer at the top in re-signings (last year), the new stadium, the new practice facility-this organization is a destination stop for FAs. Run with a focus and grit from top to bottom.

    Proud to be a fan……this will be a great ride!

    SKOL!!!!

  2. I think this will get worked out fairly for both sides in due time. Thielen isn’t the type to complain about a contract that has three years left on it, but the Vikings will want to do the right thing for him. After this season, it will be a lot easier to see what kind of money will be available. I’m sure Rob Brzezinski already has it all figured out.

  3. Thats a great story and all, but the kid signed a contract for $19 million. Three years from now he’ll have the chance to sign another. Until then, keep working hard and he’ll get paid (again).

  4. I do think the Vikings will need to close the gap financially between Diggs and Thielan at some point, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable for them to wait a year to do so.

    They did take a chance on an undrafted kid, and later gave him a nice contract considering the rest of the league viewed him as a backup wr at best. Nothing wrong with cashing in on that risk, and my guess is Thielan understands that.

  5. You can still get a pretty nice fishing boat when you make 4.8 mil a year.

    And speaking of fishing… I love it any time the GOAT Randy Moss, who is just as accomplished at fishing as football, gets mentioned.

  6. Thielen understands that he signed a fair deal when he did. You won’t see him pulling an “Aaron Rodgers” and being passive/aggressive about needing a new deal. His ego fits inside his helmet – unlike some people…

    Thielen was born and raised in Detroit Lakes, MN.

    He doesn’t have a “posse” to support.

    Cost of living is relatively low here, low crime rate, taxes aren’t what they are in CA…

    Theilen, even at the “paltry” average of $4.8 million per season – is already set for life.

  7. If he puts up another season in 2018 like he did last year, that contract will get redone next spring. Thielen is the best receiver the Vikings have. Glad to have both he and Diggs under contract long-term.

  8. Tough situation. The Vikings offered him a fair contract based on the circumstances laid out in the article. Now a year later it doesn’t appear fair. But then again giving him the same money just to be nice will kill the salary cap. Hmmmm….not sure what they should do.

  9. aypeeswhippingstick says:

    When will Treadslow get his extension?
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    When and if he earns it.

    Next question.

  10. duece5
    Aug 1, 2018, 10:44 AM EDT

    It just shows how exceptional that Spielman has been in handling this roster, seeing the talent early with Thielen, not waiting to sign him later, and signing all the core guys over the last 2 years: Harrison Smith, Rhodes, Griffen, Kendricks, Hunter, Thielen, and Diggs. ALL are MAJOR contributors to this team-the core. Add Cousins and Sheldon Richardson as FAs and 2nd year player Dalvin Cook to the mix, and this team is LOADED.

    Put Zimmer at the top in re-signings (last year), the new stadium, the new practice facility-this organization is a destination stop for FAs. Run with a focus and grit from top to bottom.

    Proud to be a fan……this will be a great ride!

    SKOL!!!!
    VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

    It’s simply the truth, well said and agreed with 100% bro. SKOL!!!!

  11. And the lowly packers passed on these two great players 8 times in the draft. oh wait, they think Cobb is better than both but couldn’t get open even against my gma. lol

  12. I have a creative idea, why don’t the Vikings offered Thielen a $10 million bonus if they win a Superbowl. It’s not like that strategy is going to cost the Vikings a single dime.

  13. When is the parade for the preseason champion vikings? After all the hubbub from their fans that they will go 16-0, easily outmatch any other team, and by far have the smartest GM in the league, they will want to celebrate in the streets.

    A lucky catch or it would of been 1 and done. MISS THE (real) PLAYOFFS in 2018!

  14. They rolled the dice on him. He won Lotto, being an UDFA. Is it fair to the team to redo it? They knew what they had when they gave out 11M. A very good #2 who ended up being better.

    He will get the full 19M. Invested in just 5 year CD’s (after taxes) will net him quite a bit, if he’s not a spender. Not necessarily ‘set for life’ in a lavish way but he will be better off than most.

    The NFL is not fair. Neither is life. A 1st rounder gets 20M or more guaranteed and 1/2 of them suck. They hit Lotto because of projections. The other 1/2 get screwed for not being a 2nd rounder. Look at OBJ vs Landry. Just the way it is.

  15. vargavarga says:

    August 1, 2018 at 10:52 am

    8-8 at best

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    Why? lol. I think this would be a worst case scenario for this talented team.

  16. If I’m Minnesota, I want to see if Thielen’s production continues without Shurmur calling the plays. Of his 10 career TDs, 8 of those came after Shurmur took over at OC for Turner in mid 2016. While Diggs hasn’t spiked as high, his production and playmaking has been more consistent over his career.

  17. Why do the Vikings need to do anything right now? Theilen signed the contract. The Vikings or Thielen probably had no idea he was going to light up. What are they fortune tellers? I think the contract was a fair amount at the time for both parties. If Adam produces like this in another year or two than maybe they have a problem. Lets see if that happens.

  18. I highly doubt Thielen will push the issue or complain or threaten to holdout or anything, he’s way too humble for that. On the flipside of the coin though he definitely deserves a raise with his level of production and I believe the Vikings will find a fair way to do that after the season

  19. vicnocal says:
    August 1, 2018 at 12:19 pm
    Thielen petered out down the stretch last year. I know, I had him in fantasy and he killed me in the final weeks.
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    Yeah, Rick Spielman noticed that too. That’s why he called a guy named Kirk Cousins.

  20. I suspect Barr and Easton are the focus now, but I also suspect Thielen’s contract will be addressed in due time. This is a pretty damn good problem — its great to see the Vikes successfully drafting, developing and signing a quality roster as a whole.

  21. Are fans REALLY comparing the contract situation of a CLEAR #2 WR to someone who could be argued as one of the best TWO players in the NFL.

    I gotta give the VIkings credit though, if they didn’t overpay Cousins, they may have waited a little longer to start contract talks.

  22. wlubake says:
    August 1, 2018 at 12:11 pm

    If I’m Minnesota, I want to see if Thielen’s production continues without Shurmur calling the plays. Of his 10 career TDs, 8 of those came after Shurmur took over at OC for Turner in mid 2016. While Diggs hasn’t spiked as high, his production and playmaking has been more consistent over his career.
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    If you think Thielen’s success is a result of play calling, you haven’t been watching him much. He has size, speed, hands, route running, and work ethic. It just took time to develop that talent. He’s still on an upward trajectory.

  23. Suck it up and wait for the next contact ? lol….BS. sit your ass right down Thielen and at least tell them you want a little sugar to sweeten things up a bit while you’re waiting. ziggy can afford it. he just got a nice fat tax break (with another on the way).

  24. vicnocal says:
    August 1, 2018 at 12:19 pm

    Thielen petered out down the stretch last year. I know, I had him in fantasy and he killed me in the final weeks.
    ________

    6-105-1 in Week 14 against Carolina, then only had a combined 5 catches for 54 yards in cakewalks against Cincinnati and Green Bay. Sorry he didn’t help your team win a championship, but I don’t think the Vikings are too concerned about those two games.

  25. tfootball1234 says:
    August 1, 2018 at 12:40 pm
    Suck it up and wait for the next contact ? lol….BS. sit your ass right down Thielen and at least tell them you want a little sugar to sweeten things up a bit while you’re waiting. ziggy can afford it. he just got a nice fat tax break (with another on the way)

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    Love these types of comments. Of course billionaire owners can afford it, what some of you don’t understand is that there is this thing called a salary cap. But the Vikings have one of the best money managers in the business. In Rob we trust

  26. But let’s not forget that one of the reasons Thielen had such a great year is because of Diggs. Diggs is an outstanding Receiver and often was the first focus of the opposing defense. That opened up things a great deal for Thielen. This tandem is the best receiving combo in the game and whenever you focus on one, the other will make you pay. Add Kyle Rudolph, Kendall Wright, and Dalvin Cook to the mix with Kirk Cousins throwing the ball and Minnesota’s offense is downright scary (almost as scary as their defense). The time is right for Minnesota this year! The Eagles have gotten better too and the Packers have gotten better while getting Aaron back. I love this year’s team and it chances. Going to be some great football this year.

  27. shaggytoodle says:
    August 1, 2018 at 12:39 pm

    Are fans REALLY comparing the contract situation of a CLEAR #2 WR to someone who could be argued as one of the best TWO players in the NFL.
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    I don’t know if I would say either Diggs or Thielen is one of the best two players in the NFL, but I’m sure they appreciate the compliment.

  28. My guess is you’ll never hear a word about it from Theilen. He comes from the land where you honor your commitments.

    Still though Diggs is worth more like 8-10 mil a season and Theilen is probably worth 12 right now. The WR market is stupid lately.

  29. Vikes don’t re-do deals until there is one year left. I get a kick out of these media know it alls trying to create a rift where non exists. Thielen is as low key as it gets. He was extremely appreciative the Vikes rolled the dice on him and brought him in as a free agent. He worked his but off and the Vikes rewarded him with a 3 year 20 mil extension with 10 mil guaranteed. This year will be the first year and it runs through 2020. So, after the 2019 season the Vikes will re-do his deal again and give him another extension but not before and he’s not going to cause any trouble within the team. He isn’t the greedy m-me type that most WR’s are.

  30. I think Theilen was a real find. Smart route runner. Big. Fast. The most valuable receiver on that team.

  31. An udfa, who spent his first year on a practice squad and the next two as a special teams ace who barely contributed as a WR (<30 rec. over two years), is being talked about as a top receiver after one good season and one pro bowl season. Meahwhile, the QB who helped him have that pro bowl season, with a similar playing background, is called a one year wonder.

    It will be interesting to see how each team and their players do this year. By all accounts, Keenum is looking better than he did last year, and his WRs are looking great. Was Keenum a product of Thielen and Diggs, or were they products of Keenum?

  32. xlivsaints says:
    August 1, 2018 at 11:26 am
    Thielen put together an entire season. Diggs has one fallen DB play to his credit.

    #provemewrong

    You can’t be serious. You’re seriously trying to say that outside of the miracle, Diggs hasn’t really done anything? You have to be crazy if really think that. My hope, for your sake, is that you really just haven’t watched the Vikings play. Thielen is great, don’t get me wrong, I’m in no way trying to diminish his talent or accomplishment. But Diggs has been and will continue to be the one who is the true elite talent of the two. Thielen has been incredible,the guy finds ways to get himself open or to open areas of the field that are nothing short of brilliant. Shows true high end WR intelligence and clearly is a film rat and is able to continuously use that preparation to pick apart opposing defenses. While diggs is also impressive for all those same reasons I just listed foe Thielen, Diggs is the guy with the other worldly freakish talent with just insane athletic ability with his speed and other athletic attributes. But Diggs has that special something you’re able to find in only those very few guys that don’t come around very often. His catch radius paired with his incredible hands(specifically in high difficulty areas and situations) make him nearly impossible to cover. He catches more passes away from his body than any one else in the entire league outside of maybe deandre Hopkins. Basically this makes him impossible because you can play near perfect coverage on the guy, and he finds a way to complete the reception anyway. What really impressed me is that he is able to do this not only in high pointing the ball on deep routes on those flashy highlight catches espn loves, but also his intermediate routes in very congested traffic. His crisp routes pairedd with that speed also make him near perfect to be able to beat man and zone coverage equally. This is the kind of guy you can see having a similar legacy to cris carter. Diggs is a generational player with so much upside that we can’t even see how high his ceiling actually is. There’s a good chance he hadn’t even begun to flash the type of talent he could end up being. Thielen is an incredibly talented and solid player, but I think what we are seeing is what we have. And that’s great, most teams should only be so lucky to have a guy like him. But Diggs is far more likely to be generational, and he is being paid like the no. 1 receiver because I would say Vikings execs know that he is likely to surpass thielen in stats and spot on the depth chart. Luckily for us they both play in the slot and are incredible at it, and they will continue to eat defenses alive for years to come

  33. Sometimes I really can’t tell if people like this fool saying the Vikings will be 8-8 is just trolling us all, or really is just an ignorant fan of a rival team who really feels like that’s how the season will go for the Vikings. Truthfully tho, I’m shocked at how many credible people can’t imagine that a team with the number 1 defense, and a pretty high end offense, could upgrade their problem position at qb, which is a huge problem to have, then make the additions like Richardson and the extensions of these key guys who should really feel even more important than they already did, could possibly regress. I can see them maybe going 12-4 or even 11-5 but i wouldnt call that regression. Still puts you in the playoffs and a 2 game change in record could literally come down to some of the smallest unpredictable things. It could have no reflection on the regression or improvement of the team. Also to anyone who really thinks they didn’t upgrade with cousins, keenum played out of his mind the entire season and will never again be able to consistently replicate that level of play again. Not to say he won’t be successful going forward, but what we saw was keenum playing at the absolute peak of his abilities. Cousins matches those same stats literally every single year without having to peak to achieve it. This will give the Vikings consistent big time qb play. No he’s not one of the elite guys like Rodgers, but he consistently had put up 4k yards and like 28 tds. That’s just another year for cousins.

  34. This still doesn’t change the fact that the Vikings have ZERO Championships.

    ZERO.

  35. thefappingbearcutler says:
    August 1, 2018 at 12:04 pm

    When is the parade for the preseason champion vikings? After all the hubbub from their fans that they will go 16-0, easily outmatch any other team, and by far have the smartest GM in the league, they will want to celebrate in the streets.

    A lucky catch or it would of been 1 and done. MISS THE (real) PLAYOFFS in 2018!

    ___________________________________________

    What about the past three pathetic Lions playoff losses in the past years, don’t you guys only have one (1) playoff win in SIX decades and an 0-16 season in recent years. The Lions are the Browns of the NFC. Trash squad Detroit fans need to be put in their place, where is your brown paper bag that you wear at your games. Are you ready for another miserable season in Detroit?

  36. harril3 says:
    August 2, 2018 at 2:14 am

    An udfa, who spent his first year on a practice squad and the next two as a special teams ace who barely contributed as a WR (<30 rec. over two years), is being talked about as a top receiver after one good season and one pro bowl season. Meahwhile, the QB who helped him have that pro bowl season, with a similar playing background, is called a one year wonder.

    It will be interesting to see how each team and their players do this year. By all accounts, Keenum is looking better than he did last year, and his WRs are looking great. Was Keenum a product of Thielen and Diggs, or were they products of Keenum?
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    I didn't see Keenum turning mediocre receivers into superstars earlier in his career. Check the Week 1 stats against the Saints when Bradford was the QB. Thielen had 9 catches for 157 yards and Diggs had 7 catches for 93 yards and 2 TDs. Diggs led the NFL in contested catch percentage, so he bailed out Keenum a lot of times. Thielen has worked like crazy to develop his talent. UDFAs don't usually step into the NFL and put up great stats from the beginning. Both guys have been great with whatever QB they play with so I'm not worried they're going to fall off the table now that they have the best QB either one has ever played with.

  37. Rob Brzezinski is a Tool With ZERO CHAMPIONSHIPS says:

    August 2, 2018 at 12:31 pm

    This still doesn’t change the fact that the Vikings have ZERO Championships.

    ZERO.

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    Still doesn’t change the fact that we still love our team, and our fan hood isn’t conditional on championships.

    How about you post something constructive or stay off?

  38. An udfa, who spent his first year on a practice squad and the next two as a special teams ace who barely contributed as a WR (<30 rec. over two years), is being talked about as a top receiver after one good season and one pro bowl season. Meahwhile, the QB who helped him have that pro bowl season, with a similar playing background, is called a one year wonder.
    It will be interesting to see how each team and their players do this year. By all accounts, Keenum is looking better than he did last year, and his WRs are looking great. Was Keenum a product of Thielen and Diggs, or were they products of Keenum?
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    Diggs and Thielen both had huge games in week 1 with Sam Bradford. They each took a step back when Keenum went into the line up. Keenum did a solid job for the Vikes last year running a very conservative offensive approach. Vikes ran the ball more than anyone in the league because they were playing complimentary football and spent most of the time playing with the lead. But Keenum didn't "make" Diggs and/or Thielen better. If anything, he held them back. Bradford would have put up much bigger numbers had he stayed healthy.

  39. Stella true about Thielen a very good find but Diggs was a 5th rd pick which is not a bad find too.

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