Randy Moss makes a statement with his tie at the Hall of Fame

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As Randy Moss entered the Pro Football Hall of Fame on Saturday night, he made a societal statement without saying any words.

Moss wore a tie with 13 names on it. Those names were:

Greg Gunn, a 58-year-old unarmed black man who was shot and killed by white police officer Aaron Cody Smith, who is currently awaiting a murder trial.

Tamir Rice, a 12-year-old black boy who was shot and killed by a white police officer, Timothy Loehmann, while holding an airsoft gun. Loehmann was fired but not criminally charged.

Akai Gurley, a 28-year-old unarmed black man who was shot by an Asian-American police officer, Peter Liang. Liang was convicted of manslaughter and official misconduct and sentenced to five years of probation.

Paul O’Neal, an 18-year-old unarmed black man who was shot in the back as he fled a car he had stolen. Multiple officers shot at him but none were charged or publicly identified.

Eric Garner, a 43-year-old unarmed black man who was choked to death by white police officer Daniel Pantaleo during an arrest. Pantaleo was not charged.

Freddie Gray, a 25-year-old black man who died of injuries suffered while he was in the back of a police van. Caesar Goodson, the black officer who was driving the van, was charged with second-degree murder but found not guilty. Five other officers, three white and two black, were charged with lesser crimes but none were convicted.

Walter Scott, an unarmed 50-year-old black man who was shot in the back by a white police officer after a traffic stop. The officer, Michael Slager, pleaded guilty to deprivation of rights under color of law and was sentenced to 20 years in prison.

Sandra Bland, a 28-year-old black woman who committed suicide in a jail cell three days after being arrested during a stop for a minor traffic offense. The white officer who arrested her, Brian Encina, was indicted for perjury for making false statements about the circumstances of the arrest. The perjury charge was later dropped as part of a deal in which he agreed never to work in law enforcement again.

Akiel Denkins, a 24-year-old black man who was shot and killed in a struggle with white police officer D.C. Twiddy. Twiddy was not charged.

Alton Sterling, a 37-year-old black man who was shot by two white police officers who said he was reaching for the gun in his pocket. The officers were not charged.

Michael Brown, an 18-year-old unarmed black man who was shot and killed by white police officer Darren Wilson. Wilson was not charged.

Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old unarmed black boy who was shot and killed by George Zimmerman, a 28-year-old mixed race Hispanic man who followed Martin around his neighborhood and called the police, reporting Martin as suspicious. Zimmerman was charged but acquitted under Florida’s Stand Your Ground Law.

Brendon Glenn, a 29-year-old unarmed black man who was shot and killed by black police officer Clifford Proctor. Proctor resigned from the police department but was not charged.

“You ask me about my tie,” Moss said on NFL Network after the enshrinement ceremony. “We all know what’s going on. You see the names on my tie. Being able to use a big platform like the Hall of Fame, what I wanted to be able to express with my tie is to let these families know that they’re not alone.”

193 responses to “Randy Moss makes a statement with his tie at the Hall of Fame

  1. It never ends. Hof has become inductance that who cares and why go event. If it was not for family, past members feeling obligated and blinded fans , no one would be there. The speeches of self importance and own agenda has taken away from why they are there. Some of the players that should be and will never get to the HOF have to bee shaking their heads.

  2. melikefootball says:

    August 5, 2018 at 12:05 pm

    It never ends. Hof has become inductance that who cares and why go event. If it was not for family, past members feeling obligated and blinded fans , no one would be there. The speeches of self importance and own agenda has taken away from why they are there. Some of the players that should be and will never get to the HOF have to bee shaking their heads.

    —–

    Heaven forbid they talk about themselves when THEY are being inducted…

  3. There’s no solution to his statement, only a subject that brings divide. How about a statement on humanity and what should be done. Like an MLK statement on his tie or something…

  4. it’s too bad that your lament of “it never ends” wasn’t directed towards the never ending cycle of violence happening in America. But hey, this never ending cycle of people getting upset over violence is surely hard on you.

  5. I’ve been a Vikings fan for life and a huge Moss fan since 1998. I just lost every bit of respect I had for the guy.

  6. Waiting for fashion police — “How dare he disrespect our brave police who …”

    Maybe they will just fine him. Maybe they will make a rule that HOFers can’t wear ties ever again. Maybe a certain bloated personality will demand that the NFL inspect every tie before the next HOF ceremony while a certain owner in Dallas gives his approval. Maybe the NFL will stop selling Moss jerseys like they were Kaepernick Jerseys.

    Or here’s a thought.

    Maybe prosecute officers who kill unarmed men.

  7. The tie was subtle as I didn’t notice it while he was on stage, however, the thought behind the message was strong enough and I laud Randy Moss for it.

  8. I wish your article would also give a description od what lead to those being shot. Robbing a store, assaulting a police officer, not following orders, fake concealment of a weapon.

  9. 54 police officers killed in the line of duty so far this year, 33 were killed by gunfire.
    Not saying all cops are good, just saying it’s a hell of a dangerous job.

  10. I’m ok with the tie but… do include the details. If you are going to get in the mud make sure you are transparent. Some of those shooting were crimes. Some of those incidnents were justified. Tell the whole story

    LimoLibs

  11. More virtue signaling nonsense. A bolder and more courageous statement would have been about the state of the inner-city where HUNDREDS of you black males are killed each year and not just 13 names over 4 years.

  12. “Paul O’Neal, an 18-year-old unarmed black man who was shot in the back as he fled a car he had stolen. Multiple officers shot at him but none were charged or publicly identified.” Sorry but for this situation there’s no sympathy. If you stole a car and then tried to run away it’s your fault you got shot at.

  13. billbrasky72 says:
    August 5, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    I’ve been a Vikings fan for life and a huge Moss fan since 1998. I just lost every bit of respect I had for the guy.

    _____________

    I’m sure Moss will be heartbroken when he finds out he lost your respect

  14. A day in which should be all about him he decided to make a statement for those without a voice. Agree or disagree it was his to make and if you respect the player on the field then respect his choice to use his platform how he sees fit.

  15. He forgot 1 name, Michael Michalski, a 17 year veteran of the Milwaukee Police Department that was executing a warrant for a armed felon name Jonathan Copeland Jr last week. That felon ambushed him and killed officer Michalski in the line of duty. That officer was doing his job trying to remove a dangerous multiple convicted felon with a history of violence and gun charges. But I’m sure those outside of Wisconsin barely knew this even happened including Randy moss because it does not fit the race baiting liberal media agenda. There isn’t a tie long enough in any store to put the names of every black that was gunned down by another black this past weekend in America!

  16. Over half of those shootings were justified. Media generated lies for the useful idiot race baiters. Disgusting to hold up criminals as martyrs and totally ignore hard facts of each and every case separately.

  17. You know what. I would need a 3 mile long tie if i listed all the murders of black men,…..by black men.
    Yet a tie only 3 feet long would be needed to list the names of those on the agenda of Randy Moss

  18. “Or here’s a thought.

    Maybe prosecute officers who kill unarmed men.”
    ——
    Or here’s a thought.

    Maybe don’t commit crimes and pull guns on the police.

  19. wiltmellow says:
    August 5, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    Maybe prosecute officers who kill unarmed men.
    ___________________________________________

    They already do. What you really want is for the dolts on twitter and FB that post up articles of “alleged” police misconduct prior to knowing the facts to be the jury. That’s not how it works. There is a constitutional right of due process. Which calls for there to be evidence and a jury of peers… you know that little thing.

  20. Did ray Lewis wear a tie with the names of the guys he killed in Atlanta wearing his white suit?

  21. Since the start of 2018, at least 54 law enforcement officers across the U.S. have died while on duty — with 33 of the deaths caused by gunfire.

    Who is wearing this tie?

  22. I LOVE RANDY MOSS! What a classy way to do something meaningful. He should never have been traded, what idiots thought that was the right thing to do? Go Vikings!

  23. The problem with that tie is it implies all those deaths were created equal. They were not. Some of them were definitely unjustified, but others were not. Until the “protest” gets some nuance instead of treating every black death the same, it’s going to be hard to get the message across.

  24. I have said this time and time again, if police shoot blacks because they are black why do they shoot white people, because as much as some people don’t like to discus it police shoot a lot more white people every year than blacks. The answer isn’t oh because there are so many white people they must have to shoot them too. But why are the “shooting people” If you make this thing into a bigger issue you can get much more traction and move towards a solution. If some people act like it is only happening the them, then a whole bunch of people won’t care. It like the guy in fantasy football who claims only injuries happen to his team, no one cares. Last year in our city a white guy was shot and killed outside a hotel by police , no one knows his name , you know why he was white! that’s why no one ever heard about him.

  25. melikefootball says:
    August 5, 2018 at 12:05 pm
    It never ends. Hof has become inductance that who cares and why go event. If it was not for family, past members feeling obligated and blinded fans , no one would be there. The speeches of self importance and own agenda has taken away from why they are there. Some of the players that should be and will never get to the HOF have to bee shaking their heads.
    —–

    It never ends?

    You’re against others having the same rights as you? You’re comfortable as long as you have yours, though right?

  26. These incidents are from the past 6 or 7 years. During this time there have been millions of contacts between police and minority citizens in, at many times, deadly situations. What is amazing is that there are so few names. Were the media to explore the thousands of times cops did not pull the trigger when justified and authorized it would destroy this divisive, false narrative.

  27. Justified or not, the common theme is the deceased did not comply with an LEO’s instruction. That is the first action, yet we demonized the reaction with0ut acknowledging what triggered the reaction.

  28. Only Randy Moss would wear a tie with a bunch of Criminal’s names
    on it. I guess it makes sense for a guy with a criminal record himself. 14

  29. That tie Randy wore is a race baiting tie. That’s what the narrative is here. And why the black agenda don’t change. Point the fingers away from the real crime. #Policelivesmatter

  30. Whether you agree with the shootings as justified or not, there should be no problem with the way Moss presented the issue – he didn’t mention the issue in his speech even though he earned the platform to do so. Hell, Alan Page used damn near his entire HOF acceptance speech to stump for better inner city minority education.

  31. Now what? Will the same Russian apologists who are boycotting NFL games also boycott HOF events? Will POTUS (IQ45) order a restriction against wearing ties at future HOF ceremonies? Will the anti-kneel/faux-patriot snowflakes go on a hunger strike?

  32. tedmurph says:
    August 5, 2018 at 12:44 pm
    Over half the shootings were justified. That’s wonderful.

    #doesn’tgetit
    ____________________

    Deemed justified by who? A panel of other cops? Seems legit

  33. “Since the start of 2018, at least 54 officers across the U.S. have died while on duty – with 33 of the deaths caused by gunfire”.

    Fake news. Hannity statistics.

  34. The moment you see more Caucasian’s are killed by police every year…

    But don’t let that get in the way of your perversion of self responsibility.

    #pantsupdontloot

  35. Why no tie about cops killed by blacks? Why no tie about murder victims of black on black violence? Their is an agenda that they only show one side. It is beyond ridiculous and the media plays right into it. The NFL will suffer once again in ratings over it. So keep on glorifyng it.

  36. Players take a knee during the anthem and a lot of fans complain because it’s disrespectful to the flag. Randy Moss wears a tie during a speech and never brings up the kneeling issue nor did he even mention his tie during the speech. Still, many of the same fans offended by the players kneeling are bothered by the tie even though it had nothing to do with the flag. Very telling.

  37. Since when is it illegal to shoot an unarmed anybody ? The statute for shooting at someone does not revolve around if they were armed or not . Ignorance , being desperate, being a moron , being a criminal , having no values & having no empathy for the Officers that put themselves in harms way on the daily and pure disrespect gets you killed regardless of race not a single person on that list/tie were doing the right lawful thing ….not one of them

  38. Kelly Arvin says:
    August 5, 2018 at 12:54 pm

    Justified or not, the common theme is the deceased did not comply with an LEO’s instruction. That is the first action, yet we demonized the reaction with0ut acknowledging what triggered the reaction.

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    Not all, but definitely a great majority of these incidents occur because of non-compliance. It’s really not that hard to comply. Some of the anarchist clowns out there might say they have the right not to comply, but really all they’re advocating is the right to be a dumbass. And frankly, that’s a right no one should have or need. Why be petulant when everyone gets to go home safe and alive if you just obey?

  39. This ‘police shoot more whites than blacks’ argument is the type of nonsense you can only find on Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. There are a

  40. I’ve seen some pretty ridiculous comments on this story. Anyone who is against him wearing the tie is happy with the status quo of anyone, especially minorities being shot by the police. Police have a tough job to do – a lot of crappy people to deal with. HOWEVER- being a criminal is not a reason to be shot. Death is not the right punishment for small crimes. Stealing cigars, knocking over a parking enforcement officer, or in many cases not doing anything is not a reason to be shot. It is not “police work” it is laziness and fear. It would be interesting to see if some commentators would change their tune if their wife, brother, sister, etc was shot at a traffic stop for no reason.

  41. jjpmn says:
    August 5, 2018 at 1:07 pm

    Players take a knee during the anthem and a lot of fans complain because it’s disrespectful to the flag. Randy Moss wears a tie during a speech and never brings up the kneeling issue nor did he even mention his tie during the speech. Still, many of the same fans offended by the players kneeling are bothered by the tie even though it had nothing to do with the flag. Very telling.

    ——

    Not really. I’m sure you think you’ve made some inciteful observation, but frankly this reaction to Moss is mild compared to the absolute disgrace that kneeling for the anthem is.

    But still, of course there will always be discomfort when someone hijacks an occasion as a platform for their personal and unrelated agenda. If you’re at a wedding reception and suddenly someone rants about racial injustice during their toast, it would be wholly inappropriate. People are there to celebrate a marriage. Just as people at the HOF induction are there to celebrate great football players.

    There’s literally a million other opportunities and platforms to get a message across. It’s just obnoxious to insist on delivering your message in an unrelated occasion.

    I don’t understand why this is so hard to understand for pro-protesters.

    At least Moss did his quietly, so no big deal.

  42. cardinealsfan20 says:
    August 5, 2018 at 12:58 pm
    “do what the cops tell you without question”.

    Sure, in a free society we’re supposed to kowtow to state authority.
    ————————————

    Coming from a snowflake who wants the state authority to be the only ones with guns. So which is it?

  43. Michael Brown, an 18-year-old unarmed black man who just robbed a convenience store, then tried to steal a cops gun and then punched the officer in the face was shot and killed by that very police officer Darren Wilson.

    Fixed it for you PFT, helps to tell the entire story.

    lies upon lies upon lies to brainwash dopes like Moss

  44. tedmurph says:
    August 5, 2018 at 1:10 pm
    This ‘police shoot more whites than blacks’ argument is the type of nonsense you can only find on Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. There are a

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    Actually that is a statistical fact. But you are correct, you would never hear about it on CNN, MSNBC or the NYT…. it just doesn’t fit their narrative

  45. The issue isn’t compliance with LEO. It’s the racial profiling and targeting of people of color in the 1rst place, as well as the ease in which they pull a gun and shoot. Why was Zimmerman even messing with TMartin? Why did this stand your ground whackjob in FLA gun down a black man who was backing away after defending his girlfriend, and get away with it? INSANE!

  46. tedmurph says:
    August 5, 2018 at 1:11 pm

    There are about 253 mil Whites in this country, as opposed to 60 mil Blacks.

    ———

    Your argument implies that the rate of criminality for each race is the same. It’s not. No amount of fuzzy liberal logic is going to make it true.

  47. Two weeks ago in AZ a DPS Trooper was killed and another was shot by a motorist who fought with the police. The black suspect was unarmed but grabbed the officers gun and shot two Troopers. Is the media to blame for his death? Did the officer hesitate to defend himself because the black man was “unarmed”? Just because someone is unarmed doesn’t mean force isn’t nessecary. As a LEO for past 16 years, I say try doing the job for 6 months then get back to me. A young man is dead now. Let’s all remember the police are NOT the aggressors. They react to aggression shown to them first. Good grief. Moss I used to like you – disappointing to say the least.

  48. SundayPsychic says:
    August 5, 2018 at 12:30 pm
    “Paul O’Neal, an 18-year-old unarmed black man who was shot in the back as he fled a car he had stolen. Multiple officers shot at him but none were charged or publicly identified.” Sorry but for this situation there’s no sympathy. If you stole a car and then tried to run away it’s your fault you got shot at
    -————————————-
    Why would that warrant someone getting shot and killed? Chase them and apprehend them like “police officers”. Shooting should be a last resort if the public or police are in danger. Stealing a car or running from police should not result in shootings. Give your head a shake.

  49. If you want to know how messed up America is just read the comments section. This country is the most selfish place on earth. The place is built on exploiting lesser people than the majority. If you speak out for the underprivileged your targeted. Scummy place.

  50. Some names belong others don’t, you reach into a cops car for his gun and then later during the pursuit turn and charge him, what do you think is gonna happen? You “struggle”, or as others call it assault. Sandra Bland killed herself when she wasn’t in police custody, but the department of corrections, Tamir RIce is a tradgety, but you leave out the part where no one told the responding officers that the person who was pointing a gun at people in a park, probably had a fake gun. That falls on the dispatcher, not the officers. Eric Garner, the cops were wayyyy too rough with. Where’s Katheryn Johnson was murder by dirty cops who then planted evidence on her? I’m not saying there aren’t cases where cops don’t straight up kill, or react to roughly with someone(Eric), but I am also saying not ever case is “a cop just went up and killed a poor unarmed person”

  51. oh god, the Micheal Brown situation even Huffington post called that the lie of the year .an any one that believes he innocent , is not ready for a serious conversation

  52. A little less than twice as many whites are killed by police that blacks, but there are over 4x as many whites as blacks in this country. The right doesn’t get what’s wrong with that.

    #clueless

  53. I think it was great Moss wore the tie to bring attention to the subject. When Randy was in Minnesota he did alot and I mean alot for kids. People are forgetting that these officers want to go home every night too. There’s enough blame on BOTH sides to go around, there are corrupt civilians and there are corrupt police officers. Its not a race issue its a people morality issue.

    These officers do not know mental state of the individual, nor do they know what weapons they maybe carrying. White people statistically are shot by police more because there are more if us. However what I find ironic and scary at that same time, blacks are more likely to be pulled over in a motor stop than whites.

    Think about it, if I were black and driving I’d be pissed too if i got pulled over for no reason. I used to work as a contractor for a military installation and after 911 they started searching vehicles to get on the island. One of the guys I worked with was black, he ALWAYS GOT searched. I was never searched once. He would text me and we’d both chuckle cause I would ask him, oh DWB (Driving While Black) huh?

    What is bad with social media is every time we see a confrontation its a black man or women being taken down by police. Some white people start thinking that all blacks are bad people, its their culture, their race blah freakin blah. I call BS to that. Its the person behavior not the color of their skin. They are uneducated and have been taught racism.

    Remember I said “There’s enough blame on BOTH sides to go around” that is true. If you are detained by the police and when an officer tells you to do something you comply no matter what because the chances are that if you do you will not be killed, chocked out or any or unpleasantness. Then if you feel you have been treated unfairly, sue the pants off the officers involved and file a lawsuit.

    There is enough blame for both sides , what our society needs is better education for police officers as well as civilians. The US is made up of 5 percent of the worlds population but has 30 percent of the world’s mass shooters. Times have changed and something needs to be done about gun control. Hell in most of the UK officers don’t even carry firearms and they do just fine.

  54. orangecrush78 says:
    August 5, 2018 at 1:18 pm

    I’ve seen some pretty ridiculous comments on this story. Anyone who is against him wearing the tie is happy with the status quo of anyone, especially minorities being shot by the police. Police have a tough job to do – a lot of crappy people to deal with. HOWEVER- being a criminal is not a reason to be shot. Death is not the right punishment for small crimes. Stealing cigars, knocking over a parking enforcement officer, or in many cases not doing anything is not a reason to be shot. It is not “police work” it is laziness and fear. It would be interesting to see if some commentators would change their tune if their wife, brother, sister, etc was shot at a traffic stop for no reason.

    ———–

    It would be interesting to see if you would change your tune if a LEO family member died to some punk because he was to hesitant to defend himself.

    There are literally millions of confrontations between cops and citizens every day. Practically all of them walk away safe and sound.

    While I don’t deny that incidents of senseless death occurs, forgive me if I am not too sympathetic to situations where wailing mothers cry “why did they kill my poor baby, all he did was rob a store and flee from cops on a dangerous chase”.

  55. I am certain that, just like criminals, there are BAD cops in this country. That said, some who post here think that every black ever shot & killed, by a cop…was shot & killed by a bad cop.
    I don’t know the circumstances of each incident, so I cannot comment on specific episodes. But, I am guessing that most, if not all, here are in the same boat.
    I wish we could all keep that in mind, when we are slamming the officers, who go out daily, and put his/her life on the line, to keep us all safe.
    I do applaud Mr. Moss though for his small gesture to shine a light on the issue.
    God Bless

  56. J says:
    August 5, 2018 at 12:25 pm
    More virtue signaling nonsense. A bolder and more courageous statement would have been about the state of the inner-city where HUNDREDS of you black males are killed each year and not just 13 names over 4 years.

    I hear you man. Im a fan of Philadelphia teams. I live across the Walt Whitman Bridge in Jersey. When the weather gets warm the more trouble. North East Philly, South West Philly are some of the baddest places around here. But even worse is Camden. For being as small it is, it still is on the Nations worst cities in America. With a combination of drugs, prostitution, corruption and lawmakers who are in someone’s pockets there is little to no hope at making out of these places and becoming a successful member of society. Not all the blame can be placed on the people and police. It’s frustratingly sad.

  57. tedmurph says:
    August 5, 2018 at 1:29 pm
    A little less than twice as many whites are killed by police that blacks, but there are over 4x as many whites as blacks in this country. The right doesn’t get what’s wrong with that.

    #clueless

    ===========

    Blacks commit proportionally more violent crimes than whites.

    #fact

  58. Black males make up 6 percent of the population and are responsible for over 50 percent of violent crimes in America. Their hip-hop culture glorifies violence, drug selling, prostitution, and disrespect towards police. Then society wonders why police are on edge in inner cities and racially profile black men. It’s not hard to figure out.

  59. Until people in authority like the police are held accountable, put in jail with no chance of parole for murdering unarmed Black men we will continue to see an increasing divide in the country. btw- I am a White guy, fed up with the murderous behavior of poorly trained, easily intimidated, and unprepared law enforcement to handle high stress situations more appropriately. Do police “put their lives on the line”? yes- but no-one forced them to become cops. Teachers, firemen, social workers, EMTs, school children- SCHOOL CHILDREN! also put their lives on the line daily going about their daily activities.Lynching has been replaced with gunshots and it is ok in this country. UNACCEPTABLE.

  60. orndorf2 says:
    August 5, 2018 at 1:27 pm

    If you want to know how messed up America is just read the comments section. This country is the most selfish place on earth. The place is built on exploiting lesser people than the majority. If you speak out for the underprivileged your targeted. Scummy place.

    —-

    If you’re already here, you’re free to leave.

    If you’re from abroad, don’t bother immigrating.

    I came to this country as an immigrant of color and love it just fine, thank you.

  61. What about a tie for those police officers from Texas a few years ago who died trying to save blacks from one another.. Instead they we’re ambushed and murdered. When blacks went crazy for social injustice and started a riot. just animals you are.

  62. “Coming from a snowflake who wants the state authority to be the only ones with guns. So which is it?”

    Are you going to obey the police without question when they come for your guns?

  63. When 13% of the population commits 50% of the violent crimes in America, it’s not the white boys being triggered with Randy’s nonsense. Its every American who knows the dynamics that lead to police having a JOB to do.

    From a Hispanic American.

  64. Orangecrush78- How about have accountability for your actions. This person stole a car then tried tonflee from police. Were they positive he was unarmed at that time? Of course not because when you’ve committed multiple crimes your not given the benefit of the doubt nor should you be. Shake your head and realize defending this criminal doesn’t help the cause. So again in this specific instance if you don’t want to get shot don’t commit a crime and then try and flee, instead when your caught comply with the officer and take your justice.

    orangecrush78 says:

    August 5, 2018 at 1:27 pm

    SundayPsychic says:
    August 5, 2018 at 12:30 pm
    “Paul O’Neal, an 18-year-old unarmed black man who was shot in the back as he fled a car he had stolen. Multiple officers shot at him but none were charged or publicly identified.” Sorry but for this situation there’s no sympathy. If you stole a car and then tried to run away it’s your fault you got shot at
    -————————————-
    Why would that warrant someone getting shot and killed? Chase them and apprehend them like “police officers”. Shooting should be a last resort if the public or police are in danger. Stealing a car or running from police should not result in shootings. Give your head a shake.

  65. Until BLM and sympathizers in football and “civic leaders “ recognize that most of the violence and death comes at the hands of other blacks, why should anyone care? Seemingly law abiding citizens have declared war on the police rather than working with them.
    Until then, reap what you sow!

  66. I still stand by the view that if you, any of the masses that live here, feel persecuted & unjustly victimized, believe life will be much better elsewhere you DO have that right & privilege to leave & indeed see if the grass is indeed greener or more utopian……
    I suggest that you do not put yourself in precarious situations till you embark on that illustrious journey…..

  67. Nice Randy.. Throwing stones while living in a glass house… You are part of the problem, stirring the pot on your race baiting. #Changethenarritive

  68. Some of those kids on Moss’s tie didn’t deserve to die. Some of those cops were bad, yes. However, that tie insinuated that all those names are all on a level playing field. They are not. The commentary in this write up is horrible, Michael David Smith, because you fail to leave out some very important facts in your summary of each person that led up to why they were killed. Very unfair to throw everyone in the same bucket, or in this case, on the same tie. Simple lesson here folks, if you do something that causes you to tangle with the cops, or even if its a case of mistaken identify, then just do what they say. I’ve NEVER seen anyone get hurt doing what a cop asks.

  69. “Michael Brown”???? Even Obamas friend Eric Holder had to come out and state the whole “Hands Up Don’t Shoot” theory was a crock. Debunked. Don’t look for trouble, don’t find trouble should be the new slogan.

    By the way, almost 40 people of color shot in the city of Chicago since just Friday night. Anyone care to guess who the perpetrators have been described as?

  70. Hey, MDS, since we’re on the subject, you should complete the full story on each. For example “Michael Brown – an 18-year old black man who charged the officer, tried to grab his weapon, and threatened to kill him, in front of eyewitnesses, within hours of robbing a corner store and assaulting its manager.” Ya know – paint the WHOLE picture. Objective reporting at its finest, I suppose.

  71. donttrollonme says:
    August 5, 2018 at 1:44 pm

    Sometimes I think these things get posted just to trigger the middle-aged white dudes that frequent these boards.

    Mission Accomplished!

    —–

    Please. It’s not just middle aged white men who find this ridiculous. Plenty of African/Asian/Latin people who are respectable citizens don’t have a problem with LEOs. Gotta look in the mirror and see past the skin tone if you want to find the real cause of tragedy here.

  72. People commenting “well look at how many black men are murdered by other black men” and similar rubbish are clearly of the same bent as those that try to defend everything said or done by Donald Trump with something Hillary Clinton did, or supposedly did. Coincidentally, I have the same response for them as well, which is…

    I wouldn’t accept a defense of “well he did it too” or “she did it first” from my grandchildren. Thankfully, I’ve never had to, as my grandchildren are far too mature for that type of juvenile nonsense; even the 5 year old.

  73. tedmurph says:
    August 5, 2018 at 1:21 pm
    The issue isn’t compliance with LEO. It’s the racial profiling and targeting of people of color in the 1rst place, as well as the ease in which they pull a gun and shoot. Why was Zimmerman even messing with TMartin? Why did this stand your ground whackjob in FLA gun down a black man who was backing away after defending his girlfriend, and get away with it? INSANE!
    ————————————

    This is a prime example of media generated lies for the useful idiots. The stand your ground law didn’t apply in this case. Martin was ground pounding Zimmerman so it was straight up self defense which is valid in every state. Zimmerman was half white and half hispanic but the media called him white. Zimmerman had dated a few black girls, had black family members and black friends. He voted for Obama who has never been called white. The DA went for a second degree murder conviction and they never had a chance. Man slaughter would have been the only thing they could have gotten, maybe. Zimmerman was not a racist, or a murderer.

  74. Orangecrush78- How about have accountability for your actions? This person stole a car then tried to flee from police. Were they positive he was unarmed at that time? Of course not because when you’ve committed multiple crimes your not given the benefit of the doubt nor should you be. Shake your head and realize defending this criminal doesn’t help the cause. So again in this specific instance if you don’t want to get shot don’t commit a crime and then try and flee, instead when your caught comply with the officer and take your justice. If your afraid of what the officers will do then don’t steal a car.

  75. somatg3 says:
    August 5, 2018 at 2:13 pm
    Kudos to Moss. THAT is how you use your platform !

    ————————-
    Big deal, he raised awareness. Now what is he going to do? Will he follow thru with anything substantive after this? Everyone wants to chirp about raising awareness for this or that but never actually following thru on accomplishing anything.

  76. There is no doubt in my mind that there are bad cops in the world.Problem is NFL players have made this an “us versus you” problem. Not only that but someone lied to you guys and told you because you can play a game that I value your opinion. I don’t. Most of you are pinheads who have been catered to since you were 12. Compounding your problems is the fact that many of you engage in illegal if not immoral behaviors your damn selves. Ray Rice, Rae Carruth, Ray Lewis, Darren Sharper; Randy Moss damn near ran over a Minneapolis cop if my memory serves me correct. OJ Simpson anyone? You are not exactly the people with whom I am compelled to have an intelligent conversation about civil rights and the criminal justice system.

  77. I’ll repeat; Zimmerman had no reason to even approach Martin. He did so because he was black and he didn’t recognize him. He caused the whole thing by being racist

  78. Here’s a thought, don’t put yourself in these situations to begin with – just follow the law. If you’re a law abiding citizen, regardless of race/color, 99.9% of the time you won’t have to worry about an overzealous police officer overreacting in a situation and doing something tragic. Are there racist police officers? – Absolutely. Just like there are racist bigots in every walk of life. Racism exists against all skin colors., not just white on black. I just wish we could focus on preventive measures such education and job training to keep young people from turning to crime to start with. We need to stop it before it begins. However, I guess a knee or tie will do something…..

  79. orndorf2 says:
    August 5, 2018 at 1:27 pm

    If you want to know how messed up America is just read the comments section. This country is the most selfish place on earth. The place is built on exploiting lesser people than the majority. If you speak out for the underprivileged your targeted. Scummy place.
    +++++++++++++++==
    “If you speak out for the underprivileged your targeted”…….. your kidding right. Turn on the news bud. White males are the target….just read the article. And underprivileged? If you are so underprivileged then shouldn’t you be able to go to school for free while others pay thousands of dollars? But we don’t hear about that. I mean that would be a way to use “underprivileged” to your benefit right? I mean really underprivileged when it comes down to it just means your parents are too dumb to work or refuse to work.

  80. Who knows the real truth of the names on his tie? You brandish a gun at a police officer and you are asking for trouble. The police have a terrible job here, with all the criminal activity. Behavior starts in the home, you only had to listen to some of the speeches last night.
    It’s not going to stop until you deal with guns, illegals and criminals.

  81. Here in Chicago, we had 62 teenagers shot and 5 killed in the month of July 2018. None of those teenagers shot & killed were at the hands of Chicago Police Department.

  82. vaphinfan says:
    August 5, 2018 at 12:15 pm
    I wish your article would also give a description od what lead to those being shot. Robbing a store, assaulting a police officer, not following orders, fake concealment of a weapon.
    _________________________________________________________________________________
    Everyone here has access to the series of tubes called “the internets”. You can also catch most of those murders on youtube. You cannot argue that as a cop you were in imminent danger and in fear for you life when an unarmed man is running away from you.
    Unless we change the laws to allow for summary execution for all crime or suspected crimes then these a-holes committed murder and all they need is someone like the above commenter on the jury to get off.

  83. As predicted, this statement by Moss really triggered the snowflakes on here. They claim to be “patriots” and bashed the players for protesting the anthem, but the vast majority of the conservatives don’t know WHY the players protested. Hopefully this tie and the names listed will cause the to pause and reconsider their knee jerk negative reaction to players and consider the background where they came from.

    Nah, too much to hope for. They’ll just claim claim patriotism and remain in ignorance.

  84. patriotmaleorgy says:
    August 5, 2018 at 2:40 pm
    orndorf2 says:
    August 5, 2018 at 1:27 pm

    If you want to know how messed up America is just read the comments section. This country is the most selfish place on earth. The place is built on exploiting lesser people than the majority. If you speak out for the underprivileged your targeted. Scummy place.
    +++++++++++++++==
    “If you speak out for the underprivileged your targeted”…….. your kidding right. Turn on the news bud. White males are the target….just read the article. And underprivileged? If you are so underprivileged then shouldn’t you be able to go to school for free while others pay thousands of dollars? But we don’t hear about that. I mean that would be a way to use “underprivileged” to your benefit right? I mean really underprivileged when it comes down to it just means your parents are too dumb to work or refuse to work.
    _______________________________________________________________
    Lol Patriot Male Orgy says….well white males are all oppressed. Dude, look up INCEL and find your people. You have a whole support group of others, just like you.

  85. Where are the unarmed white people who are shot by cops? Just because the media doesn’t report it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. It actually happens more. Look it up. And on top of that, all of the “arm chair” police officers out there who do not know what it’s like to have your license in the line everyday, you have no clue.

  86. tedmurph says:
    August 5, 2018 at 2:37 pm
    I’ll repeat; Zimmerman had no reason to even approach Martin. He did so because he was black and he didn’t recognize him. He caused the whole thing by being racist
    ——————————————

    And Zimmerman wasn’t a cop. He was a Latino doing a neighborhood watch. I think he’s a POS too but has noting to with law enforcement.

  87. Yawn. More politics in football equals less fans. The overwhelming majority of the people cheering him for using his Hall of Fame speech for a political platform hate football for its toxic masculinity anyway.

  88. Problem with the tie is that every incident is unique. No one wants a 12 year old dead. He was holding an air soft gun. Tragic, yes. Tough to be an officer in that situation? Yes.
    No indictment in Michael Brown case because mostly black Ferguson citizens on the grand jury refused to indict based on the facts of the case. He never had his hands up yelling don’t shoot. He attacked the officer. Media did a horrible job reporting on this case.

  89. Michael Brown? Are you kidding me? Moss loses all credibility by including a guy who tried to murder a police office and was rightly killed. And black witnesses corroborated the officer’s account.

  90. 90% of the people on Randys tie are criminals who probably didn’t deserve to die, but continued to put themselves in harms way with there disrespectful/Ignorant actions. It’s not all about black and white… It’s about your descions and actions. It’s about a certain race that can’t figure out to stay out of harms way. Respect the law and don’t put a Police office in a position to shoot you. Once they figure their actions have serious and sometimes fatal consequences, they continue to die. It’s like a certain ant colony they all follow the queen.. even to death. The ants can’t figure it out and that’s how life goes.

  91. cardinealsfan20 says:

    “Since the start of 2018, at least 54 officers across the U.S. have died while on duty – with 33 of the deaths caused by gunfire”.

    Fake news. Hannity statistics.
    *******************************************************************
    Too easy
    1)Police Officer Adam Edward Jobbers-MillerFort Myers Police Department, FL
    EOW: Saturday, July 28, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    2) Police Officer Michael J. Michalski
    Milwaukee Police Department, WI
    EOW: Wednesday, July 25, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    3) Trooper Tyler Edenhofer
    Arizona Department of Public Safety, AZ
    EOW: Wednesday, July 25, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    4) Police Officer Bronson K. Kaliloa
    Hawaii County Police Department, HI
    EOW: Wednesday, July 18, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    5) Sergeant Michael C. Chesna
    Weymouth Police Department, MA
    EOW: Sunday, July 15, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    6) Trooper Nicholas F. Clark
    New York State Police, NY
    EOW: Monday, July 2, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    7) Deputy Sheriff Theresa Sue King
    Wyandotte County Sheriff’s Office, KS
    EOW: Saturday, June 16, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    8) Deputy Sheriff Patrick Thomas Rohrer
    Wyandotte County Sheriff’s Office, KS
    EOW: Friday, June 15, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    9) Sergeant Daniel Scott Baker
    Dickson County Sheriff’s Office, TN
    EOW: Wednesday, May 30, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    10) Deputy Sheriff William J. Gentry, Jr.
    Highlands County Sheriff’s Office, FL
    EOW: Monday, May 7, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    11) Police Officer Robert Shawn Pitts
    Terre Haute Police Department, IN
    EOW: Friday, May 4, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    12) Police Officer Jesus “Chuy” Cordova
    Nogales Police Department, AZ
    EOW: Friday, April 27, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    13) Corporal Eugene Cole
    Somerset County Sheriff’s Office, ME
    EOW: Wednesday, April 25, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    14) Police Officer Rogelio Santander, Jr.
    Dallas Police Department, TX
    EOW: Wednesday, April 25, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    15) Deputy Sheriff Taylor Fletcher Lindsey
    Gilchrist County Sheriff’s Office, FL
    EOW: Thursday, April 19, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    16) Sergeant Noel Beltran Ramirez, Jr.
    Gilchrist County Sheriff’s Office, FL
    EOW: Thursday, April 19, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    17) Sergeant Sean McNamee Gannon
    Yarmouth Police Department, MA
    EOW: Thursday, April 12, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    18) Police Officer Phillip Lynn Meacham
    Hopkinsville Police Department, KY
    EOW: Thursday, March 29, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    19) Police Officer Andres Laza-Caraballo
    Juncos Municipal Police Department, PR
    EOW: Wednesday, March 21, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    20) Police Officer Scotty Hamilton
    Pikeville Police Department, KY
    EOW: Tuesday, March 13, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    21) Police Officer Greggory Casillas
    Pomona Police Department, CA
    EOW: Friday, March 9, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    22) Police Officer Christopher Ryan Morton
    Clinton Police Department, MO
    EOW: Tuesday, March 6, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    23) Deputy Sheriff Jacob M. Pickett
    Boone County Sheriff’s Office, IN
    EOW: Friday, March 2, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    24) Sergeant Mujahid Ramzziddin
    Prince George’s County Police Department, MD
    EOW: Wednesday, February 21, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    25) Police Officer Justin Taylor Billa
    Mobile Police Department, AL
    EOW: Tuesday, February 20, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    26) Commander Paul R. Bauer
    Chicago Police Department, IL
    EOW: Tuesday, February 13, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    27) K9 Officer Eric Joseph Joering
    Westerville Division of Police, OH
    EOW: Saturday, February 10, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    28) Police Officer Anthony Pasquale Morelli
    Westerville Division of Police, OH
    EOW: Saturday, February 10, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    29) Police Officer Chase Lee Maddox
    Locust Grove Police Department, GA
    EOW: Friday, February 9, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    30) Police Officer David Charles Sherrard
    Richardson Police Department, TX
    EOW: Wednesday, February 7, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    31) Deputy Sheriff Steven Belanger
    Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department, CA
    EOW: Tuesday, February 6, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    32) Deputy Sheriff Micah Lee Flick
    El Paso County Sheriff’s Office, CO
    EOW: Monday, February 5, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    33) Police Officer Glenn Anthony Doss, Jr.
    Detroit Police Department, MI
    EOW: Sunday, January 28, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    34) Deputy Sheriff Heath McDonald Gumm
    Adams County Sheriff’s Office, CO
    EOW: Wednesday, January 24, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    35) Detective Michael R. Doty
    York County Sheriff’s Office, SC
    EOW: Wednesday, January 17, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

    36) Deputy Sheriff Daniel A. McCartney
    Pierce County Sheriff’s Department, WA
    EOW: Monday, January 8, 2018
    Cause of Death: Gunfire

  92. So let me get this straight: his tie includes the name of Michael Brown, a probable criminal who by all accounts and evidence panicked at the sight of a police officer after Brown had committed a crime and in response forced the officer to act in self defense. Many witnesses who later admitted to not seeing the event initially lied and claimed that they had, leading to the myth of “hands up, don’t shoot”, looting and rioting accompanied a long round of protests conducted by people who were willing to jump to conclusions and act (assuming innocence) prematurely, and after a fair investigation led to no charges being filed our own President publicly and explicitly stated that people did not need to trust in the legal system and could believe what they wanted to believe. So, that Michael Brown?

    Meanwhile, unarmed non-African-American people and African-American people are BOTH shot PROPORTIONATE TO THE CRIME RATES OF EACH GROUP by police officers, suggesting that there is no actual racial bias in these incidences (but rather than most people, of any race, are forcing the hands of police, and occasionally police officers act improperly when they don’t need to), and yet Moss’s tie does not include the names of any unarmed non-African-Americans shot by police.

    There’s a phrase for that: racial discrimination.

  93. I missed it – did Moss wear a tie protesting the death of African Americans killed by other African Americans which make up 93% of all African Americans murdered? That’s some tie – sorry I didn’t watch.

  94. Far more black men were murdered under Obama than under Bush (see also drone strikes). Next time you guys vote for change maybe read the fine print.

  95. So I guess it would be perfectly fine for a white HOF inductee to wear a tie with the names of police officers killed by black criminals? The only problem with that would be the length of the tie which would exceed the length of Moss’s tie many times over.

  96. orangecrush78 says:
    August 5, 2018 at 1:27 pm

    “Paul O’Neal, an 18-year-old unarmed black man who was shot in the back as he fled a car he had stolen. Multiple officers shot at him but none were charged or publicly identified.” Sorry but for this situation there’s no sympathy.
    -————————————-
    Why would that warrant someone getting shot and killed? Chase them and apprehend them like “police officers”. Shooting should be a last resort if the public or police are in danger. Stealing a car or running from police should not result in shootings. Give your head a shake.
    ____________________
    Well you dont know the whole story and as usual what’s above is half the story. This is tragic. You would hope that it could be resolved without having to shoot the person stealing the car. However, if they drive the car at other officers or at other citizens (possibly your family) what would you have them do? Wait until he killed a family – has happened before. Wait until he killed an officer? Has happened before. During the pursuit shots were fired… other officers joining the pursuit did not know the shots came from other officers and fired back. That is really horrible but not criminal and not unreasonable. The whole incident could have been avoided by…yielding to the police when you were caught.

    It doesn’t take an MIT grad to know that a motor vehicle is deadly. Unfortunatly the ordeal ended with someone losing their life. Fortunately, no officers or citizens were injured.

  97. I don’t know what Moss does these days, community work ? But he certainly has time to get heavily envolved in these murders. Talking a knee, wearing a tie, it’s all token jestures. You want to change it, get of your backside and do something about it. The oscars and the HoF are about entertainment. I am not interested in their opinions or political bias. Entertain me.

  98. Don’t you know that ALL BLACK people are innocent??
    It only we racist WHITE people that kill them & treat them unfairly!!!
    I mean they would NEVER kill one another, commit a crime or do ANYTHING sketchy or questionable in society… hey man, they was FRAMED by the man!!!

  99. nhpats says:

    August 5, 2018 at 12:28 pm
    Here is an idea to avoid getting shot by police…..don’t do anything illegal and do what the cops tell you without question

    Yeah, that worked really well for Philando Castile. Or Charles Kinsey, who was lying on the ground with his hands in the air while trying to keep the autistic man in his care from getting shot.

  100. Say what you’d like about the tie, but imagine the hatred and outrage if a white HOFer wore a tie of all the police officers murdered by blacks.

  101. Did anyone ask moss which complete choke job hurt more, the 98 vikings or 07 patriots?

  102. tedmurph says:

    There are about 253 mil Whites in this country, as opposed to 60 mil Blacks.
    ==================================================================

    Yet blacks commit the majority of crimes.

  103. Bring on the racist All Lives Matter commenters who find some way to now be offended by THIS form of peaceful protest. Hell YES Randy Moss, make those the hateful Americans deal with reality one way or another!

  104. Every one of you white people whining about “Why doesnt he wear a tie for white people?” are truly disgusting people. Its called white privelege. Its also called racial profiling, and its been going on for decades. You whining like youve been oppressed, randomly attacked by police, denied loans or credit, denied jobs, just because of your race. Im a white male, and i understand and appreciate the unfairly inherited opportunities allowed to me just because of my race and gender. I have NOTHING to whine about in comparison, and yet from my experiences growing up i definitely have more right than you whiny white spoiled baby closet racists! Were all racist to some degree, its denying its existence is what makes you cowards, and also completely wrong for humanity. Grow up you little children!

  105. Brobokil is another pathetic white guilt complex clown. Name one other race that has self loathing brainwashed imbeciles such as this guy? What a complete disgrace. Diversity is another word for anti white

  106. tedmurph says:
    August 5, 2018 at 2:37 pm
    I’ll repeat; Zimmerman had no reason to even approach Martin. He did so because he was black and he didn’t recognize him. He caused the whole thing by being racist
    ——————————————

    Yeah I remember a certain news channel editing the call between police dispatch and Zimmerman to make sure he was pegged as a racist. To bad for you no facts support your race baiting narrative.

  107. tendigitpoet says:
    August 5, 2018 at 3:58 pm
    nhpats says:

    August 5, 2018 at 12:28 pm
    Here is an idea to avoid getting shot by police…..don’t do anything illegal and do what the cops tell you without question

    Yeah, that worked really well for Philando Castile. Or Charles Kinsey, who was lying on the ground with his hands in the air while trying to keep the autistic man in his care from getting shot.

    ——-
    That is a tragedy….but it doesn’t change my statement.

  108. Michael E says:
    August 5, 2018 at 4:24 pm
    tedmurph says:

    There are about 253 mil Whites in this country, as opposed to 60 mil Blacks.
    ==================================================================

    Yet blacks commit the majority of crimes.
    ________________________________________________________________

    Your comment is incorrect in general and lacks specifics. So while I agree a disproportionate amount of violent crime is committed by blacks, blacks don’t commit more violent crime than whites overall.

  109. You had three low character ( moss, owens , lewis) inducted into what is supposed to be a very special place yesterday. It is not so special anymore. At least when they inducted OJ he hadn’t murdered those two innocent people yet

  110. “And if you live in Chicago, 40 people were shot since midnight Sunday. 4 fatally.

    Where is all the concern you protesters?”

    Where is the police department you people worship? Seems like they’re not doing a very good job of preventing violent crime.

  111. cardinealsfan20 says:
    August 5, 2018 at 5:35 pm
    “And if you live in Chicago, 40 people were shot since midnight Sunday. 4 fatally.

    Where is all the concern you protesters?”

    Where is the police department you people worship? Seems like they’re not doing a very good job of preventing violent crime.

    —————-

    It’s what Liberal Mayor’s do to cities. Just look at that they did to Detroit.

    But what is it exactly you expect the police to do?

  112. thermanmerman99 says:
    August 5, 2018 at 5:03 pm
    Brobokil is another pathetic white guilt complex clown. Name one other race that has self loathing brainwashed imbeciles such as this guy? What a complete disgrace. Diversity is another word for anti white

    ————-

    I don’t agree with you on many posts…..but I could not agree more on this post!

  113. I’m not surprised an uneducated professional athlete supports criminals. Still seems like an odd statement to make though to openly support crime.

  114. 52 people were shot in Chicago THIS WEEKEND alone. No ties, no outrage. No protests. Just crime. and nobody cares. Politics has infected everyone everywhere…

  115. What about the names of those men who were murdered in Cobalt Night Club, Atlanta? They weren’t there to join Ray for his big night.

  116. cardinealsfan20 says:
    August 5, 2018 at 5:49 pm
    “But what is it exactly you expect the police to do?”

    Their jobs. According to you people they’re infallible.
    ————————————

    It’s really very simple even for stupid people that can’t spell. The Liberal Chicago mayors office is more concerned with their police not violating people’s civil rights than preventing crime. The proactive police work that it takes to clean up the streets isn’t being done because the cops don’t feel supported and aren’t going to stick their necks out.
    Then they go to a crime scene to scrape up yet another dead nameless black kid and nobody saw anything. After 40 years of liberal controlled hopelessness and being told the cops are the bad guys by crooked politicians the cycle continues.

  117. cardinealsfan20 says:
    August 5, 2018 at 5:49 pm
    “But what is it exactly you expect the police to do?”

    Their jobs. According to you people they’re infallible.

    ————
    I don’t recall anyone saying the police or anyone else are infallible. Perhaps you can link to a post proving your point. Until then your StrawMan is burning down in flames for all to see

  118. Ok but all those people would still be alive if they didn’t do something illegal and cooperated with police. Has nothing to do with color.

  119. White people who do stupid things get arrested and sometimes shot by police too… You just never hear about it.

  120. Again, Moss delivered his speech without actually mentioning the tie or the kneeling controversy. Meanwhile, Ray Lewis openly called for bringing prayer back to schools. Where’s the outrage over Ray’s comments? Or is mixing politics and football acceptable if the people who normally complain about it agree with the message? And for whatever it’s worth, I’m not in favor of prayer in public schools, but I’m also not offended by Lewis sharing his opinion on the matter.

  121. I was very happy to hear Kramer quote Jennings, that success is due to choice not to chance – exact opposite of what Obama said. Also very glad to hear Urlacher point out that he worked for what he got and it wasn’t due to white privilege. Even the low-character Lewis & Moss (and Michael Irvin!) spoke of the bible. Had Moss not worn the tie, lots of liberal heads would have exploded. Imagine, doing the right thing can change the destructive path we started down for 8 years. Lewis was correct to mention 1 Corinthians 13, love is the strongest and most viable way to change things for the better. It’d be nice if the left would quit dividing people based on identity, and let the grown ups fix things.

  122. Since the beginning of 2017, 325 African American have been shot by police. In that same time frame, 247 Hispanic Americans have been shot by police. In that same time frame, 668 caucasian Americans have been shot by police. So more whites have been shot by police than African Americans and Hispanics COMBINED.

    Individuals of all races are shot by police, usually when they are doing something illegal. White, black, Hispanic, Asian, male, female, etc… It doesn’t make it right, but it makes it a fact.

  123. “Yeah I remember a certain news channel editing the call between police dispatch and Zimmerman to make sure that he was pegged a racist”.

    Fake news, never happened.

  124. cardinealsfan20 says:
    August 5, 2018 at 5:35 pm
    “And if you live in Chicago, 40 people were shot since midnight Sunday.

    Where is the police department you people worship? Seems like they’re not doing a very good job of preventing violent crime.
    ————-
    And if they do their job, you call the police racist.
    The list on Moss’ tie were full of names of people in the midst of a crime. The police showed up to do their job, the criminal ran, didn’t listen or attempted to attack the officer, and died while the police did their job.
    Police can’t stop crime. All they can do is show up when it happens and do their best.
    It’s sad how utterly dumb you are.

  125. good thing he didn’t list the 9 dead from this weekend in Chicago as we speak. But that doesn’t count I guess.

  126. Moss knew exactly what to expect from the master race so he spoke with a gesture not words. You can tell who’s white here posting because the master race doesn’t know what racism is. I mean it’s not like we were slaves before right and convinced Rights movement nevermind and countless black people didn’t die for rights. I mean I’m your minds because most of you weren’t alive so your oblivious to it and the rest act like oh ok you win you have rights do all that hate all that racism it just disappeared lol ok. No sympathy from Mass murderers who immortalize serial killers because it’s their legacy.

    You don’t see very many whites robbing stores, they go for maximum damage like shooting up schools. Hostage negotiators jobs were created by you for you

  127. What does slavery 150 years ago have to do with any of this??? Police shoot more whites than blacks… Fact! You just never hear about it bc it’s not a sexy, high viewer race baiting story.

  128. There will always be racism in this country as long as there are black people telling you there is racism in this country. And, black people will always tell you there is racism in this country because black are, and forever will be victims, no matter whose at fault. They should have given this punk an extra trophy for taking plays off when he knew the ball wasn’t coming his way! He admitted to that! One can only hope he decides to run a fade route when a police officer commands him to STOP! 🙂

  129. “Ray Lewis openly called for bringing prayer back to public schools. Where’s the outrage about Ray’s comment?”

    These evangelicals won’t be satisfied with just prayer in our public schools. They are working towards a complete takeover of the schools as a part of creating a theocratic nation. They are looking to eliminate mainstream Protestants and Catholics.

  130. My tie would say “73”, and “31.” Which is the illegitimacy and high school drop out rates, respectfully, in the African American community. Sometimes you have to begin by addressing your own internal problems first before you start looking to place blame elsewhere for your woes.

    And, secondly, don’t make the police officer have to make a split-second decision. They’re not always going to make the right one, they’re human. If they say “freeze” or “show me your hands” – don’t run, don’t start walking towards the officer, don’t reach into your car or pocket. Just do what he/she says – don’t put them into position to have to make that split-second decision. Yes, it really is that simple.

  131. vaphinfan says:
    August 5, 2018 at 12:15 pm
    I wish your article would also give a description of what lead to those being shot. Robbing a store, assaulting a police officer, not following orders, fake concealment of a weapon.

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    I wish your comment chose to honor rather than blame these dead young men for their own deaths. I wish your comments considered how their family & friends might HURT now that their sons, Dad, co-worker & classmate are no longer with us. I hope you’ll be able to empathize before you have to deal with a tragic death “close to home” When you do, I’ll be sure to consider your PAIN and acknowledge your hurt, and empathize with you, its what we do in this country when one of US suffers, we don’t let the other suffer alone.

  132. Never heard of a single one of them people on his tie…..course, I spend my days drinking frozen martinis and listening to Yacht Rock radio………….man life is good!

  133. NewYorkLion says:

    August 5, 2018 at 1:08 pm

    Since when is it illegal to shoot an unarmed anybody ? The statute for shooting at someone does not revolve around if they were armed or not . Ignorance , being desperate, being a moron , being a criminal , having no values & having no empathy for the Officers that put themselves in harms way on the daily and pure disrespect gets you killed regardless of race not a single person on that list/tie were doing the right lawful thing ….not one of them

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    Martin just went to the store to get a drink and some candy. How is that unlawful? He was approached by Zimmerman after the police told Zimmerman not to approach him. He didn’t listen. That was unlawful!

  134. I’m surprised they didn’t show a video clip of Randy rubbing is butt against a goal post in Green Bay.
    I think Randy has grown up, but I wouldn’t bet on it.
    I have to admit that I’ve never seen an athlete like him at the wide receiver position. Imagine what he could have done if his brain had been as mature as his body.

  135. Yea. What’s interesting is how up and arms ALOT of you all get on here when black athletes make a statement regarding what’s going on with their community. Ignorance throughout this comment section always. How about you all get out your feelings and open your ears up and receive the message, that’s being peacefully delivered. That freedom of speech thing, only fits the bill when it’s convenient for y’all.

  136. Dont way says:
    August 6, 2018 at 10:30 am

    Yea. What’s interesting is how up and arms ALOT of you all get on here when black athletes make a statement regarding what’s going on with their community. Ignorance throughout this comment section always. How about you all get out your feelings and open your ears up and receive the message, that’s being peacefully delivered. That freedom of speech thing, only fits the bill when it’s convenient for y’all.
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    Actually, everyone commenting pro OR against is also using that “Freedom of Speech thing” – or do you think that doesn’t go both ways?

  137. I agree that some police related shootings should not happen.

    I also believe that using that as a platform for change, when thousands are killed in their own neighborhoods by other black – non-police officers with ZERO National Anthem Protests attached is ridiculously hypocritical. You complain about the loss of a
    finger when cancer ravages your whole body. True, the finger is significant. You can’t ignore it. But in the bigger picture, you’re still dying.

  138. They ran out of thread before they put Chicago down. Wake up and smell what you are shoveling. Not saying things can change with cops on steroids but let’s start addressing the elephant in the room.

  139. Christopher Hicks says
    Martin just went to the store to get a drink and some candy. How is that unlawful? He was approached by Zimmerman after the police told Zimmerman not to approach him. He didn’t listen. That was unlawful!

    Not remotely true. Zimmerman never left the sidewalk. He never approached Martin. He was following Martin while Martin was walking up by the houses. That is misdemeanor trespass. This was also a neighborhood that had a rash of petty burglaries. Physical evidence presented by the State at trial showed Martin had indeed been walking up by the houses exactly where Zimmerman said he saw him. The police never ordered Zimmerman to stop following Martin. The dispatcher was not an LEO and so had no police authority to begin with. And if she had been an LEO, she still could not have made such an order. What Zimmerman did was not illegal. Stupid, yes. Incredibly foolhardy also. But not illegal. What the dispatcher did, when she realized he was following Martin, was tell thim that the police really did not need him to do that. He said “OK” and said he had lost sight of Martin. He then told the dispatcher he was returning to his vehicle. At that point, they were on almost 180 degree paths. Zimmerman was almost halfway back to his vehicle when the confrontation with Martin took place. It was Martin who chose to escalate things. The physical evidence at trial – again introduced by the State – showed where Martin hid in the bushes until Zimmerman came past.

    All of that is in the trial transcript. Or available on video – Court TV if I recall properly.

  140. The real tie he should be wearing is the one of black on black crime. That tie however, would be long enough to go from Minnesota to Canton.

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