Giants reportedly offer OBJ less than $16 million per year

AP

The Giants and Odell Beckham Jr. have begun contract negotiations. The negotiations may not last very long.

Josina Anderson of ESPN reports that the Giants have offered Beckham less than $16 million per year.

If that’s the new-money average, it would put him out of the top five at the position, led by Steelers receiver Antonio Brown at $17 million per year. Buccaneers receiver Mike Evans comes in second at $16.5 million, Texans receiver DeAndre Hopkins makes $16.2 million, as does Rams receiver Brandin Cooks. Fifth on the list is Chiefs receiver Sammy Watkins.

It’s unclear whether that’s the Giants’ final position. It’s possible that it’s an opener or something close to it, and that Beckham’s camp views it as an insult — and has opted to leak the number to the media in order to put pressure on the team to do better.

Chances are it’s the latter; that the Giants have room to move but that Beckham and his agent believe that there’s no way the Giants will get to where they need to be if they’re starting south of $16 million annually. Last year, Beckham said he wants to be the highest-paid player in the game, a bar that now sits at $30 million in annual new money.

The Giants will never give him that much. They may not even get close to $20 million. And Beckham, who decided not to hold out in order to force the issue to a head now, will have to decide whether to take the best long-term offer the Giants put on the table or go year-to-year, hitting the open market after his option year at $8.5 million and two years of the franchise tag.

84 responses to “Giants reportedly offer OBJ less than $16 million per year

  1. Any player with the injury problems OBJ has will never get top play at their position. With the exception of quarterback maybe. He has the talent, just not the durability IMO.

  2. highlight reel, headcase, but not a big time game changer. In reality, he is they guy you would pair a Boldin type in his prime with.
    7-10 per with incentives.
    or let the chump walk.

    And what is with his hair?

  3. Holdout for more. Giants are in cap trouble and I love it!

    – Signed a happy Cowboys fan.

  4. Sorry but he’s not worth $16M. If he had his head in the game and produced every game maybe so but given his production, temper tantrums, and lack of effort in many games he should be happy with $8.5M. The NFL pays for production, not for talent being wasted.

    This could go on for a few more years since they’ll pick up his option and maybe use the franchise tag. However, I don’t see the Giants tagging him. They’ll be tired of him by the time it gets to that and work out a trade with someone. This guy has been a nutjob ever since “the catch” and I can only imagine what his lack of effort will be once he gets a HUGE contract, which some team will be dumb enough to do.

  5. Receiver is the most overrated position. They are completely dependent on the guy throwing them the ball. The guy throwing the ball is completely dependent on the guys up front blocking and not getting smeared. The way the WRs act is if they hiked, blocked, threw, and caught the ball all by themselves.

  6. guyjuneguyjune says:

    The inmates are “running the asylum. Goodell is a “politically correct” commissioner.

    Uhh, it’s actually just a regular old capital/labor negotiation between employer and employee which happens in literally every line of work on the planet, but thank you for comparing NFL players to the clinically insane, as well as “inmates” in a voluntary employment scenario.

  7. Those other receivers aren’t nutso like Beckham.

    And if he really thinks any team is going to pay a receiver 30+ million a year he’s got an ugly lesson coming to him.

  8. great….. another player crying poverty at 15+ million a year…just give him a Cooks type deal for 80 million over 6 years with only 20.5 garenteed at signing….. NFL CONTRACTS ARE A JOKE…..it’s the GARENTEED $ that players should be looking at, not the over inflated money that they will never see due to being cut or forced to renegotiate the terms…..
    Personally I don’t believe he’s worth 12 million a year but I hope he puts the Giants in CAP HELL

  9. He’s all sizzle no steak ,this offer is on point if not about 5 million more a year than it should be !

  10. … and he initially asked for the moon ($30M AAV), the market has been set, he’ll get $17.5M AAV over 6 years for $105M. Cut the nonsense and get it over with.

  11. This dude is nothing but trouble… the latest in a long, long line of “Me-First” WRs. Trade him while you can.

  12. WR dont win championships, any team thats stupid enough to pay that price will never be successful.

  13. If my employer only offered me less than $16mil per year I’d be insulted too! Just disgusting that an employer could low-ball someone like that. That’s why I make QB money, $20mil+ per year. Or else I would hold out.

  14. Well lets look at the stats. Ranking per category ()
    Year-GP-Rec-TAR-Yards-TDs
    2014-12-91(9)-132(15)-1305(10)-12(4)
    2015-15-96(8)-159(7)-1450(5)-13(4)
    2016-16-101(3)-169(2)-1367(3)-10(5)
    2017-4-25(162)-41(155)-302(145)-3(71)

    Now lets look at 2017 if he were to play all 16 games by simply multiplying his stats by 4
    2017-16-100(6)-164(2)-1208(7)-12(2)

    If he can return to the 2016 form, he deserves top 5 money and the way the market works his value to his team he deserves to be the best paid WR in the game but nothing close to the top player.

    NYG should wait until the season has started to see how he is producing. If he struggles and cannot reach the 2016 form… Let him walk…

  15. He’s been injured and is trying to become the highest paid player in the NFL? He catches passes, he doesn’t throw them. Let him walk Giants….

  16. harrisonhits2 says:
    August 6, 2018 at 11:19 am
    Those other receivers aren’t nutso like Beckham.

    And if he really thinks any team is going to pay a receiver 30+ million a year he’s got an ugly lesson coming to him.
    ———

    You’re the “nutso” for not understanding how negotiations work. Then again, when the most you’ve had to negotiate was whether or not you would have an outhouse or an above ground well at your trailer, it is understandable.

    You ask for the moon, the team lowballs you, you meet in the middle with the market already set at $17M.

    The end.

  17. longislandcowboysfan33 says:
    August 6, 2018 at 11:11 am
    Holdout for more. Giants are in cap trouble and I love it!

    – Signed a happy Cowboys fan.
    ______________________________________________________________

    But theyre not in cap trouble.. They have 30.5 million cap available next year.

    Dallas has 40 Million… So if the Giants are in cap trouble, then Dallas isnt far behind..

  18. Football players are still hung up on the signing bonus. This allows teams to sign them to 5 year deals to spread it out but own their rights years 3-5 and have cut power. Give up the signing bonus, regain the contract control.

  19. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    August 6, 2018 at 12:01 pm
    They offer $15 million, you ask for $20 million. Eventually you meet in the middle. Hasn’t his agent ever negotiated a contract before?
    ________________________________________________

    Did you hear any actual comments from Beckham? No..

  20. The Giants clearly don’t want to pay OBJ, and that’s fine. But who would they pay top dollar to? Anyone? Are they just a cheap franchise now? Eli is old, has second-tier protection and nobody other top receivers to step up and make plays. They tread water every year.

  21. @kissbillsrings says:
    great….. another player crying poverty at 15+ million a year…just give him a Cooks type deal for 80 million over 6 years with only 20.5 garenteed at signing….. NFL CONTRACTS ARE A JOKE…..it’s the GARENTEED $ that players should be looking at, not the over inflated money that they will never see due to being cut or forced to renegotiate the terms…..
    Personally I don’t believe he’s worth 12 million a year but I hope he puts the Giants in CAP HELL
    =======================================================================================
    At what point did he cry poverty? People just bet bent out of shape because these guys stand to make more money than you’ll ever make in your lifetime at your 9-5 job. Good thing you don’t follow NBA, MLB, NHL where athletes make a lot more than most football players. He’s clearly their best player and deserves to be paid among the top WR in the game.

  22. I’m not going to address whether $16 million is way too much for one of the best receivers the NFL has seen in a long time, but it’s comical to read the crybabies on here saying that Odell is a one-catch wonder or that he doesn’t produce and is overrated. If you all actually followed the NFL in the past few years, you’d be well aware of the fact that Odell has broken all kinds of records for receivers so early in his career, surpassing all-time greats like Randy Moss. His stats speak volumes about how productive he’s been thus far, even when you take into consideration the games he has missed.

    If you don’t like him, that’s fine, but come up with something better than saying he’s overrated or doesn’t produce. Besides his poor playoff game a couple of years ago, he’s been incredible to watch.

  23. murphyslaw40 says:
    August 6, 2018 at 11:28 am

    To be fair, Watkins and Evans are overpaid, and arguably Cooks is too.

    That’s not the Giants fault.

    __________________

    **Watkins and Cooks were both overpaid. Evans is arguably a top 5 WR, top 10 for sure. He’s not overpaid by any stretch.

  24. That’s more than I would have offered his value diminishes because he’s not capable of containing his emotions on the field. Talented yes not in the top 10 receivers in my opinion

  25. Love it. Surest way to not contend is overpay for “top” WRs. You can get guys off the waiver wire who do 80% as much for 1/10th the pay. Use the money where you really need it to sign good but not great players to reasonable contracts. Works for the Pats! 🙂

  26. Just from a business standpoint, if other receivers are making more than $16 Million a year, OBJ has to get that or more, at least. Not saying I would want my team to pay him that much. especially coming off missing a year with injury.

  27. not even being funny, but why do people think he’s worth such a large contract? I’m not knocking his skills, only the value associated with them. yes, he puts up nice numbers and is good for some highlight reel plays, but aside from that what does he truly offer? what do giants fans fear if he’s not re-signed? If you’re NOT making the post-season WITH him, why would you pay more to keep him on the roster? even if he’s not the reason you’re not making the playoffs, how is paying him more money going to help buy talent in the areas you believe you need it?

  28. Amazing how much mileage Beckham has made over a one-handed catch on National TV.

    Sure, he’s more than one catch, but, it vaulted him to ‘legendary’ status based on how spectacular (if grip glove assisted) it was. Antonio Brown and Julio Jones make great plays week in and week out.

  29. kcflake says:
    August 6, 2018 at 12:27 pm
    Just from a business standpoint, if other receivers are making more than $16 Million a year, OBJ has to get that or more, at least.

    ——–

    Why? What has he helped his team accomplish since they drafted him?

  30. nitzie says: What’s he won?
    ———————————————–

    Most ridiculous hair in the NFL: 2017
    Most gif-able play of the year: 2015
    Best tantrum thrown at a kicking net: 2017
    Best example of a player getting beaten in a fight by a kicking net: 2017

  31. calizcowboyz says:
    August 6, 2018 at 11:00 am

    Poor guy, however do you expect him to feed his kids? He better hold out!

    Reminded me of the infamous quote from Latrell Sprewell in 2004 when he turned down a three year $21M contract offer from the Timberwolves… “I got my family to feed.”

  32. Careful Beckham! If Gettleman is making the decision you see how that went with Josh Norman when both were with the Panthers…..

  33. This is a non-issue. It is the NYG’s JOB to try to save money where it can so that they aren’t crippled by any deal under the cap. It’s OBJ’s team’s JOB to get him as much money as possible. Of course the NYG isn’t going to just hand over the keys to they franchise to OBJ on it’s initial offer. This is called negotiation. They’ll eventually meet in the middle and everyone will be happy.

  34. Mr. Wright is mad his Yankees aren’t winning the division.

    Giants spent too much on Nate Solder to meet OBJ’s demands. He also didn’t do himself any favors by with the “urinating dog” TD celebration act, that sort of behavior takes $$ out these guys’ pockets when it’s time for another deal. Simple as that

  35. The Giants are being smart. Eli is on his last legs and will have to be replaced next season, possibly even this season. There’s no point in paying $20m+ to a diva WR when the QB is on his way out. The NY media will tear the Giants front office a new ahole when they’re 3-13 with no QB and Beckham making that kind of money. The Mara’s ned to stand strong and don’t let a player, whose production is reliant on the success of another, to ruin their cap money.

  36. That is a very fair offer for a diva who is gonna coast as soon as he gets paid.

    Mara has made his bed, and it is time for ol’ Frankenhead to sleep in it.

    Beckham is undoubtedly talented, but the team is going to struggle mightily, and will be battling the Skins for last place in the NFC East.

  37. If I were the Giants, I would let this season play out not least because he is coming off of a fractured ankle that ended his 2017-2018 season. Probably not coincidentally, he fractured the same ankle that bothered him earlier in the 2017-2018 season. I would want to see how he plays on that ankle and how that ankle responds to the vigors on an NFL season.

  38. Uh oh, the team’s best player is in contract negotiations with Dave Gettleman you say??
    He’ll cut him and let him walk for nothing before he pays All Pro money.. just see what Josh Norman has to say about it.

    Giants fans, FWIW – don’t get too attached to your favorite players!

  39. @ joestemme

    “Amazing how much mileage Beckham has made over a one-handed catch on National TV”.

    It is, and although that play set the tone early on (that one-handed catch was obvious offensive P.I. for anyone who watched Beckham clearly push off Carr), Beckham is a talented WR.

    The problem with Beckham is he is like T.O. in that he is immature, is focused on himself, and has proven he can’t keep his emotions in check. But he is ultra-talented, so the leash is longer to begin with.

    Good luck with all of that, Mara.

  40. Compare this kids stats to the first 4 years of any other receiver. He leads them all (Mike Evans, Sammy Watkins, Antonio Brown, Michael Thomas etc.) AND he missed time his rookie year as well as last year. Funny, everyone on here saying hes not worth it knows that they’d hate to see him go against their team. The Giants are better when hes on the field. Giants will bounce back big this season.

  41. dxm091n says:

    August 6, 2018 at 2:08 pm

    Compare this kids stats to the first 4 years of any other receiver. He leads them all (Mike Evans, Sammy Watkins, Antonio Brown, Michael Thomas etc.) AND he missed time his rookie year as well as last year. Funny, everyone on here saying hes not worth it knows that they’d hate to see him go against their team. The Giants are better when hes on the field. Giants will bounce back big this season.

    Sure, I’d hate to see him play against my team. But on the other hand, with him taking 30M in cap, the rest of the team would be pretty bad, so, on the other hand, I’d love to see him go against my team.

  42. These headlines make me laugh. Poor OBJ, LESS THAN 16 mil ? 🙂 I’m sure they will end up paying him what he deserves. In my pinion, HE is the best WR in the NFL. It’s unfortunate he has that WR diva bug that so many have but on pure talent, he’s the best and he is just about to enter his prime. No way something doesn’t get done here.

  43. endtimesparty says:
    August 6, 2018 at 12:25 pm
    Can he make the catch Julian Edelman made in Super Bowl 51?

    He most likely can. He also would make the catch Welker didn’t in Super Bowl XLVI.

  44. We’ll trade you our freshly acquired 7th round pick from Buffalo and Josh Gordon for OBJ.

    Signed Cleveland

  45. “..that one-handed catch was obvious offensive P.I. for anyone who watched Beckham clearly push off Carr..”

    Erm, no. Carr held Beckham and was flagged for it.

    Beckham is talented, but as others here have stated, he’s a diva. The Giants should trade him for picks and other players before he becomes a stone around their neck.

  46. Its funny to hear the fans bash Odell when its time to pay up…. Regardless of what you think, he is the lifeline of the Giants. Has been for a few years now. Pay him for his production. Because someone else will..

  47. I’m not a fan of backing up the brinks truck to OBJ’s house and paying him as a top 3 receiver. I’m not a OBJ hater but this contract has to be smart money.

    The only way to keep this personality motivated and focused is paying him one year at a time.

    Long term money is for a good locker room guy AND elite talent that stays on the field. Yes, he is an elite receiver but he’s no team-first locker room guy that’s going to pull your team together.

    Tag him once and trade him or let em walk, if he doesn’t take a reasonable and team friendly deal. Otherwise, his Days in a Giants uniform won’t end well for either side!

  48. It’s about market value and NOBODY can argue that his market value isn’t significantly higher than what Watkins, Cooks and Diggs are making.

    If they don’t want to pay him, they should trade him now.

  49. @ Jaiden Everett

    “Erm, no. Carr held Beckham and was flagged for it”.

    “Erm”? Anyway, go back and watch the play. Carr holds, and I acknowledge that, but Beckham lifts his left arm up and over Carr’s right arm, and pushes off right before catching the ball (you can see Carr’s Rt shoulder suddenly dip when he does this) and Carr then goes 2 or 3 yards out of bounds due to the momentum. It should have been offsetting flags, but the refs got it wrong.

    I am not taking anything away from the actual catch. It was incredible, but Beckham pushed off, and I have seen him do it many other times as well, where it also wasn’t called. Collinsworth was gushing like a schoolgirl at a boy band concert on that play, which only elevated the annoyance level.

    Anyway, after a trip down memory lane, I hope the Giants pay him big bucks. He is a good player, but not good enough for the Giants to get back to the SB by any means, and by paying Beckham big money they will continue their record of paying out huge sums and not receiving commensurate value in return. Mara deserves all he gets.

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