Hall of Fame’s board of trustee wants to prevent another boycott

AP

It wasn’t supposed to get out so quickly, but it did. And now at least one Hall of Famer is trying to shout it down as (you guessed it) #fakenews.

That’s what Cris Carter said regarding the PFT report that the Hall of Fame is considering what would surely be known as the T.O. rule — a requirement that candidates for enshrinement commit in advance to attending the enshrinement ceremony. But, as so often happens when that term is often used in other arenas, the news isn’t fake, just inconvenient.

PFT has re-confirmed via a third source what was reported earlier in the day. The subject of an advance commitment to attend the enshrinement ceremony came up on Friday during both the annual Ray Nitschke luncheon (attended exclusively by members of the Hall of Fame) and the meeting of the Hall of Fame’s board of trustees. The Hall of Fame staff has been asked to develop a rule, and the Hall of Fame’s lawyers currently are in the early stages of crafting language.

As one source explained it, the board of trustees is not pleased at all about the failure of Owens to show up. The board hopes to make it very difficult for someone to do it again, that a plan is moving forward in this regard, and that it was agreed no one would say anything about it for now. (Oops.)

There’s surely a financial motivation at work here. The weekend brings thousands of people — and hundreds of thousands of dollars — to Canton. Friday night’s Gold Jacket dinner, for example, featured tickets that cost $145 each, and at least 4,000 people attended the event at the Canton Civic Center.

This doesn’t mean that a potential T.O. rule will be finalized, especially if there’s enough opposition to it before it becomes official. So far, the reaction has been largely negative, possibly negative enough to persuade someone with the power to pull the plug to do so.

And the plug should be pulled. The gold jacket and bronze bust become earned via a career in football, not through a pledge to show up at a series of parties and events associated with officially joining the ranks of the supposed immortals. Player, coaches, and contributors either belong in the Hall of Fame or they don’t, regardless of whether they respond properly to the “be there or be square” mandate.

Really, what’s next? A threat to rescind Hall of Fame status if, for example, someone who really didn’t want to show up agrees to show up and then aggressively criticizes during the speech the selection process or other flaws regarding the Hall of Fame? Could the commitment to attend morph into an oath to say nothing negative about the Hall of Fame or, for that matter, any fellow members of the Hall of Fame, for life?

Enacting this rule would be a huge mistake, and this is where the someone on the inside needs to stand up and say, “Look, folks. This was a one-time thing from a unique personality. It’s not going to become a trend. And if it does, isn’t that the right of the person who earned enshrinement? Maybe instead of creating a barrier to entry we should take the criticism to heart and re-examine the selection process.”

If only someone with that kind of vision, power, and influence over the sport of football were on the board of trustees. Oh, wait, someone is.

75 responses to “Hall of Fame’s board of trustee wants to prevent another boycott

  1. Good for T.O. !!

    Even though T.O. has some personality issues, I love the fact that he is making the HOF look like fools. T.O. deserves to be there because of his stats.

    I got my popcorn ready !!!!!!!

  2. I am thinking the HOF needs to remember what their job is. That goes for the media voters too. If you are going to include grudges or personality conflicts into the equation, be up front about it. TO was awfully abrasive and had a weird personality, but his numbers speak for themselves. He seems to have a valid point and the HOF seems to want to double down on their stupidity.

  3. Pretty simple, enshrine people who appreciate their career & who don’t commit capital crimes (too late for this class, doubly).

  4. The HOF celebrates what a player did during their career not if they want to go to Canton to have that acknowledged. This is a joke. Truth be told I don’t blame TO. I wouldn’t go to Ohio to pick up lottery winnings.

  5. Develop some consistency and some standard of what a Hall of Famer is. Nobody knows why the HOF committee selects one player and leaves an equal or deserving one off.

    They don’t vote for TO on the first ballot because “he was a terrible teammate” but they do on his third? Why? What changed?

    Why is Jerry Kramer a HOFer in 2018 but not in the last 40 years?

  6. I don’t like politics in my sports. I don’t like old men turning something “fun” into a “good ol boys” club. I mean come on now. Why can’t this just be an enjoyable experience for fans to just be happy someone got in that they liked? All these rules from a bunch of men who got their feelings hurt over one guy? Let it go and move on. Every time I see stories about national anthem, Madden rap songs, Hall of Fame rules, I instantly get turned off to the NFL. I swear if they just stuck to pure football they’d be just fine.

  7. araidersfan says:
    August 6, 2018 at 3:38 pm
    I think that the NFL HOF lost most of it’s credibility when Jerry Jones was inducted.

    ———

    They lost it before that. Terrell Davis? Tony Dumgy? Sorry…

    Even the Jerome Bettis induction is questionable but at least he did have the yardage.

  8. This is just classic NFL mentality: Take a non-existent problem that has happened grand total of once in history then throw together some silly rule thus giving more attention to an issue that most would have been soon forgotten if not for the new rule.

    By the time they’re done they’ll have some poorly-worded rule that’ll end up backfiring. Some ailing player with CTE won’t be able to (or won’t want to) attend and it’ll become a huge controversy making the league look heartless and tone deaf.

  9. Than vote the people in that deserved to be in!!! Problem solved. Much like our entire country, that committee is run by outdated morons. Not a TO fan by any means. Its just not rocket science that some of these dudes shouldn’t even be “voted” on. If you retire in the top three at your position statistically is it crazy to just throw em the jacket without discussion?

  10. Here’s my thought…..so what if the HOF wants it that way?
    It’s their business, their club, their rules.
    It’s really no business of the writers here if they don’t agree.

  11. I cant say I agree fully with either side here, its like they were trying to out dink each other. First it was TO having to wait way too long because of childish adults reflecting their own personal grudges into their professional duties. Ill even say that those grudges had some basis since TO definately had some moments over the years. But still they should have stayed above that and not made him wait. That was a dink move. Then once they finally did it TO should have himself stayed above it all and just gone to the ceremony and been gracious, respect the game not the writers. But instead it was his turn for the dink move. But now the HOF should stay above that and just let the drama end. But the ball is in their court and maybe they think the dink move is a requirement or something so they are working on what their next one will be. Sigh. Pass the popcorn.

  12. Why should TO have gone to party with fake people who didn’t want him there. I commend him for standing up for his values, whether you agree with them or not. NFL football is dying. As is the so-called “Hall of Fame.”

  13. The Pro Football Hall of Fame absolutely deserves the T.O. circus. The Hall gave up its credibility years ago. It is now simply The Madden Video Game Hall of Kinda Really Good Players and Nice Stats.

    The fact that the only member cited by name in this piece is cris carter – whose Hall bust should be a life-size Randy Moss cradling a tiny cris carter – says it all.

    Don’t bother with whether this is a good rule or not. It doesn’t matter. The plug that needs to be pulled is on the Hall of Fame itself.

  14. The HOF and their voters come across as looking like control freaks and they are making T.O. look like he was right. The voters take themselves WAY too seriously. The fact that it took them 3 years to vote in T.O. is silly. I’m not even a T.O. fan, he’s the king of WR divas but give me a break, they guy was a first ballot HOF’er. If Moss was, T.O. was. I’m a big Moss fan but they were pretty close. If Moss hadn’t joined the media and helped rebuild his diva image he probably would have been forced to wait 2-3 years as well. The voters and whatever antiquated system they are using is pretty pathetic.

  15. Owens is a cancer. He should be removed from the Hall so as not to infect the other Busts.

  16. Protesting, boycotting, and kneeling are the things to do these days… Those players are going to want to boycott for whatever reason is hot at the moment. If they aren’t allowed to boycott, they’ll protest. If they can’t protest, they’ll threaten to boycott.

  17. The NFL hall of fame also lost credibility when Kurt warner was inducted into the hall of fame. Anyone who is a former player and now a media stooge gets fast tracked into the NFL hall of fame. Add Terrell Davis to the list too, another NFL network stooge who shouldn’t be in there.

  18. So the bottom line is – The Hall of Fame is all about “the money”.

    Just like everything else to do with the NFL…

    You must attend so we can rake in the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Anyone surprised???

  19. Yes NFL football is dying. I’ve been watching more college football over the past 4-5 years and find it more and more enjoyable. If there is a viable alternative to the NFL, I’ll jump ship.

  20. Sometimes it is a bit of a popularity contest, as opposed to strictly numbers. Don’t believe me, look at Namath’s numbers and tell me he is a Hall of Famer.

  21. If you want to prevent a boycott, clean up your ranks and purge the voters. The only reason others have boycotted is because the facade that exists about the honor of being inducted. There is a very real, very negative perception across the board about how the whole program is run, making rules to prevent boycotts will only further that, not clear it up.

  22. nhpats says:
    August 6, 2018 at 3:47 pm

    They lost it before that. Terrell Davis? Tony Dumgy? Sorry…
    ***********************************************************************************

    Exactly! Seriously I don’t care who gets elected to the HOF anymore because it has become a joke. All you have to do is you get along with the media (the voters) and you are in. Who knows maybe even give a kickback for a vote.

  23. Guess who the HoF voters are? MEDIA members!
    Media people have massive egos, equal to or greater than that of a player.
    So what players SHOULD do is boycott the media, specifically those who are known to be HoF voters.

  24. If they want to stop the boycott, then stop the nonsense with the voting.

    TO is right on this one. The NFL and the HOF are wrong again, and that is what is pissing them off, when TO is right, and they are wrong.

  25. motleytrap says:
    August 6, 2018 at 3:44 pm
    Develop some consistency and some standard of what a Hall of Famer is. Nobody knows why the HOF committee selects one player and leaves an equal or deserving one off.

    They don’t vote for TO on the first ballot because “he was a terrible teammate” but they do on his third? Why? What changed?

    Why is Jerry Kramer a HOFer in 2018 but not in the last 40 years?
    ____________________________________

    1000 thumbs up

  26. So, you get on the short list.
    You get a phone call.
    You say you won’t attend.
    I currently see 1 HC (BB) and 4 QBs (PM,TB,AR,DB) are locks for the HOF.

    If they said no, the HOF makes believe they are aren’t worthy and never mentions why? Or do they say, the coach or player has told use they won’t show, so, they will never make the cut. But, we do have a head coach that made the playoffs a couple of times and a QB whose passer rating was 52.

    I dare the HOF to do it.

    Someone this morning on the earlier story today equated this with someone in Hollywood buying their own walk of fame star. Here, you don’t have to buy a jacket and/or bust, but you do have pay with your self-respect if you want to get in. Even if you have no plans NOT to attend, it would bug the snot out of me that you HAD to promise to attend.

    Ultimately this a business. It’s there prerogative to do what they want. Good luck HOF, you’ll need it.

  27. TO has likely opened the Pandora’s Box for future enductees who will use their 20 minute acceptance sppech as a political platform to complain about everything in the world they dislike. See the Academy Awards presentations where actors become politicians. And you thought the kneelers were bad. No easy solutions, here. Just another reason people are turning off the NFL. Click!

  28. cletuspstillwaterjr says:
    August 6, 2018 at 3:42 pm
    The HOF celebrates what a player did during their career not if they want to go to Canton to have that acknowledged. This is a joke. Truth be told I don’t blame TO. I wouldn’t go to Ohio to pick up lottery winnings.

    ———————————-

    Now that’s some deep seated hatred for Ohio. I’m picking up my money lol.

  29. What a terrible idea by the NFL here. Junior Seau got in just in time I guess. Remember how badly the HOF treated his family who just wanted a chance to make a statement on his behalf at the ceremony?

  30. So for the next trick someone will go ahead and agree to come then announce like the day before they are not. The HOF can certainly say on short notice they are taking one back but the damage will be done. They need yo learn the high road as thats their only true escape.

  31. So they now have another way impose their bias and exclude players that should be in the HoF. They are as power hungry and unbelievable as Goodell and his cronies.

  32. NO NO NO ! I do not want players being forced to attend HOF induction ceremonies. I want player WHO WANT TO BE THERE, not players forced to be there. By the way…. is Ray Lewis still giving his speech?

  33. Do they know the can of worms they would be opening if they did this? What happens if first ballot hall of famers refuse to sign? Does the HOF keep out a Tom Brady if he refuses to sign on principle? Either you are a hall of f amer or you aren’t. You make your organization look like a joke if the only reason you didn’t vote someone in was they didn’t sign a promise to attend your ceremony.

  34. Just quit doing the ceremony. Have the induction be part of the hall of fame week, but not present anything to anyone or allow speeches. Have the inductees.pick.up their jacket in private or mail it to them. All the ceremony is going to be is a platform for political activism and whatever else anyway. Dont need it when these players have no.pride in anything. We see enough whining from these guys what they play.

  35. I’d rather be in Allah’s Hall of Fame. Let him judge you for your hard work as oppose to the clowns in Canton

  36. I find it funny how people support that ego-maniacal, sociopath TO. Meanwhile, players like Isaac Bruce are STILL waiting even though he has similar stats. If TO is supposed to be mad about not being a 1st ballot guy, how should Bruce feel. Should he show up with this rocket launcher to the HoF?

    The problem is the expectation that several players are “1st ballot hall of famers” every year. It is en vogue to say that and unfortunately players are buying into it, but they can’t all be. It’s simply not possible. The privilege is to get in. Period.

  37. Lets be honest, Ray Lewis is a terrible person on many levels, so much worse than TO, but the voters couldn’t wait to make him first ballot. No way TO should wait bc of character and Lewis gets in first ballot. Voters need to clearly state the rules and follow them the same for every candidate.

  38. Better idea: To receive your Gold jacket, you must attend the ceremony, or pick it up from the Hall of Fame after Enshrinement Weekend. If you boycott, you will be inducted in your absence. Your bust will be there, with your empty gold jacket hanging beside it. Do that ONCE, and nobody else will ever choose to pass on attending the HOF weekend.

  39. Goodell is on the board of trustees, but we also know he only cares about his own power and any affront to that would cause him to act petulantly.

  40. nard1000 says:
    August 6, 2018 at 5:37 pm
    I find it funny how people support that ego-maniacal, sociopath TO. Meanwhile, players like Isaac Bruce are STILL waiting even though he has similar stats. If TO is supposed to be mad about not being a 1st ballot guy, how should Bruce feel. Should he show up with this rocket launcher to the HoF?

    The problem is the expectation that several players are “1st ballot hall of famers” every year. It is en vogue to say that and unfortunately players are buying into it, but they can’t all be. It’s simply not possible. The privilege is to get in. Period.

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    Isaac Bruce was a nice player and had a good career but let’s be honest….he couldn’t carry TO’s jock

  41. This is why the majority of the voters should be current Hall of Famers. Writers and fans are biased. Get some guys who understand the player and you’re good. Bump up the inductees and shorten the speech time. Pretty sure no one wants thirty minutes of a Reverend Ray again.

  42. I say start making the votes of those on the selection committee public. That way when they snub a guy that deserves to be in the HOF by most accounts they have to be accountable for why. It’s like I said in another post. Zack Thomas had more combined tackles than any linebacker in the HOF. (3rd now after Junior Seau & Ray Lewis). 7 time Pro Bowler, 5 time All Pro. Over 350 tackles & 1 more All Pro than Brian Urlacher not to mention Thomas was unanimous All American. He hasn’t even come close to The HOF. So why was Urlacher a first ballot guy & Thomas snubbed so badly it’s most likely will have to get in with a veterans committee vote? BC he was a 5th round pick & Urlacher went in the 1st round? Thomas has never complained either. He’s always used being snubbed (5th round pick) to be a better player & person. Make the votes public.

  43. Then tell the voters to get it right the first time. The TO saga overshadowed the fact that the Senior committee has to ensure things are done correctly such as with Jerry Kramer

  44. “Isaac Bruce was a nice player and had a good career but let’s be honest….he couldn’t carry TO’s jock”

    He could catch the game winning TD pass in the Super Bowl.

  45. Just another part of the NFL money machine that is upset it may not have maximized every last dollar.

    This possible rule is driven solely by greed of those people wanting to continue to get very well paid for doing very little.

  46. “It really is a shame that T.O. had to wait so long to be inducted into the Hall of Fame.”
    –Jerry Kramer

  47. Was in Canton for Jerry Rice in 2010 – Players out and about at most all of the day long festivities. Steelers players everywhere for LeBeau, likewise for Jerry and Emmit.

    Went again for Eddie DeBartolo in 2016.
    All venues locked down with ‘pay-in-advance’ near private activities inside tents.
    See your favorite player(s)? Pay in advance.

    Security measures even the TSA would be jealous of, including roof top sharp shooters.
    Sure, security is necessary in these times but, the HOF seems to have forgotten what the ‘Fan Experience’ is all about. Standing behind barricades in the heat all afternoon is something cattle might be comfortable with.

    Won’t do another HOF Trip regardless.
    Complete money grab, thanks for coming, you can leave now agenda.

    Shame….

  48. A TO rule would make a mockery out of the HoF. If a player or coach is at the top of the achievement list and chooses not to go to the ceremony, that doesn’t mean he’s not one of the best in the game. All it means is that it will no longer be about achievement but whether they want to come to the ceremony. And that’s pretty stupid. If Tom Brady is the GOAT, and he decides he doesn’t want to attend, that doesn’t mean he’s not the GOAT. It would mean the HoF doesn’t include the GOAT.

  49. Players that jump around from team to team seem to lose favor with their initial team. Players that stick around with the same team for 13 years or more seem to be favored. But certain teams and players seem to be blackballed by voters and HOF. Too many inconsistencies on how players get in. Retire in the Top 3 in total yards at your position, should you be in the HOF? I’d say yes. But that’s not the way it is.

    Stallworth and Swan are in HOF, but not Cliff Branch. Why? Branch won 3 Super Bowls and had 3,000 more yards receiving than Swan.

    If Art Monk and Andre Reed are in the HOF, why isn’t Henry Ellard?

    Why is Kellen Winslow in the HOF? San Diego needed someone?

    These kinds of issues are why the HOF deserves our derision.

  50. Players that jump around from team to team seem to lose favor with their initial team. Players that stick around with the same team for 13 years or more seem to be favored. But certain teams and players seem to be blackballed by voters and HOF. Too many inconsistencies on how players get in. Retire in the Top 3 in total yards at your position, should you be in the HOF? I’d say yes. But that’s not the way it is.

    Stallworth and Swan are in HOF, but not Cliff Branch. Why? Branch won 3 Super Bowls and had 3,000 more yards receiving than Swan.

    If Art Monk and Andre Reed are in the HOF, why isn’t Henry Ellard?

    Why is Kellen Winslow in the HOF? San Diego needed someone?

    These kinds of issues are why the HOF deserves our derision.

  51. Personally… TO was nothing but a headache to the league, peed everyone off he ever worked for. So WHY WAS HE VOTED IN??? Whocares he had good stats. Guys like Issac Bruce, Zach Thomas, and Jimmy Johnson were class act guys and still are – so vote guys in that deserve and respect the HOF.

  52. Enacting this rule would be a huge mistake, and this is where the someone on the inside needs to stand up and say, “Look, folks. This was a one-time thing from a unique personality. It’s not going to become a trend.

    In the diva rich environment that is the NFL? Are you Kidding? There are kids right now planning their boycott dances.

  53. This is a waste of effort. All the Hall Voters have to do is be a little more discerning when voting a player into the HOF. They need to ask themselves, “what embodies a player deserving of enshirement in the Hall BEYOND stats, and what has he contributed to the sport to elevate the profession overall?”
    Despite the stats, the same attention seeking behavior that marked his career and turned off many fans, is the reason TO wasn’t a first ballot inductee. Football is the ultimate team sport and a the ability to be a part of the group and lead quietly through excellence, not demanding the spotlight but sharing the glory and helping teammates raise their level of skill to accomplish the end goal is what separates the greats from the rest.
    I doubt that we will see further incidents such as this in the future, and to even contemplate creating a special rule named after someone who turned out to be an unappreciative and unworthy choice, would be rewarding bad behavior. TO, as it turned out, was not so unique or special, but just another entitled person with a platform. It’s too bad he never acquired the class and humiiity or respect that usually we expects to see in true legends.

  54. As a result of all of these self serving millionaire players we gave up football 2 years ago. After a Raiders fan for 47 years I had enough of these hypocrites. When the NFL goes broke let’s see who will pay them millions to play a sport.

  55. dryzzt23 says:
    August 6, 2018 at 4:55 pm
    Guess who the HoF voters are? MEDIA members!
    Media people have massive egos, equal to or greater than that of a player.
    So what players SHOULD do is boycott the media, specifically those who are known to be HoF voters.
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    That has to be the dumbest idea on the entire page.

  56. I don’t watch it and really don’t care about it. TO is a knucklehead for not going and making his statement there. It was his time. His time to say whatever he wanted. Which is why I never watch it. I don’t really care what players say.. I just don’t. I’m a grown man who rarely listens to sport figures or entertainers.. I will watch them perform and that’s it.

  57. I can’t stand T.O. for many reasons but two things:

    1. He deserved to be counted among the best players in the game for his accomplishments where it matters – on the field
    2. The HOF is, and has been, a joke for many years due to the fact that the voters are unqualified to be in their positions which are attained based on nothing more than watching football games

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