Kirk Cousins will have a makeshift line this week

AP

One of the most anticipated debuts in the league will be when quarterback Kirk Cousins steps under center for the Vikings this week.

But it might not be the best way to gauge Cousins’ progress, since the Vikings offensive line is such a mess right now.

According to Chris Tomasson of the St. Paul Pioneer Press, the three regular interior linemen are still out, putting Cousins in a bit of a precarious spot.

Center Pat Elflein is still on the physically unable to perform list after offseason ankle and shoulder surgeries. Guards Mike Remmers (ankle) and Nick Easton (undisclosed) are also out, and haven’t practiced since last week.

At least tackles Riley Reiff and Rashod Hill are in place, but the middle is manned by Cornelius Edison at center, Tom Compton at left guard and Danny Isidora at right guard.

“Edson’s a fighter,’’ Vikings coach Mike Zimmer said. “He’s powerful. Compton is playing like a veteran. Isidora, I thought he was better [Monday]. Last week wasn’t his best week but we talked about some things, so I think he’ll be better.’’

The Vikings invested $84 million in Cousins this offseason, so perhaps limiting his exposure behind a bunch of backups would be the prudent plan, though Zimmer wouldn’t say how much Cousins might play this week.

50 responses to “Kirk Cousins will have a makeshift line this week

  1. Is Kurt Cousins any good? I know he puts up the stats but so does Andy Dalton….. how strong is his arm? Is he a guy who can carry a team? Jay Gruden is good at hiding the deficiencies in his quarterbacks. Minnesota has a way better team built around him than Washington ever did….

    Would he be a top 10 qb? I can’t see him top 5. Or would he fall in around the late teens?

  2. First string QBs rarely break a sweat in the first exhibition game … I don’t imagine this one will be much different.

  3. Some things never change……like how the Vikings Offensive Line is a mess every off season.

    As a fan I’m stuck in the middle of what to expect this year. I think the Defense is talented, the skills positions are great (WR, RB, QB, TE), the coaching staff is good….but if we have a line like 2016 it could be a huge mess.

    At the same time our Line looked like a mess last year and did really well last year, so who knows.

    I just wish they would have addressed this in the draft and in the offseason more. It’s such an underrated part of football. When you want to contend for a Superbowl…you need a good line. Period.

  4. If Captain plays it will be one series.
    It’s all about a healthy O-Line week one so it’s good for the depth to get some reps.

  5. Not worried about pre-season if this is what it will be opening day, then there is a need to worry. Until then meh

  6. Minnesota has a way better team built around him than Washington ever did….

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    Then they shouldn’t have a problem winning a SuperBowl this year then. Don’t ya know… skol.

    PS: Washington has three in case you forgot.

  7. A QB that takes up that much cap space is going to have to make do with issues like these. Yet, it seems like they just keep laying out excuses for this guy (prior to even a single pre-season game snap)… I’d be nervous if I was a Vikings fan.

  8. Again, I have no problem admitting that I believe Kirk Cousins is a very good QB.
    He’s a Damn sight better than the last few this team has trotted through here.
    Is he 84 million guaranteed good? No.
    Is he a significant upgrade than what they had in Case Keenum? Well, that remains to be seen.
    Personally, I just don’t believe the investment comes close to matching the talent level. But in a lot of situations, that’s just the nature of the game.
    But, the real question comes down to, is his talent level and intangibles enough to propel this team to a Championship level.

    Having him play behind a makeshift line won’t be doing him no favors.
    But that’s preseason for a lot of teams this time of year.
    I expect his playing time will be very limited on Saturday.
    And any judgements, well, whatever judgements preseasons will allow, will have to wait.

  9. If they had any sense, they would sit him. Telling Bradly Chubb and the Broncos pass rush to take it easy on him because the O-Line is hurt will never happen.

  10. cheeseisfattening says:
    August 7, 2018 at 9:15 am
    A make shift line during training camp is no big deal. It’s not like it is a year one rebuild.
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    ……….it only feels like it.

  11. If the line has played together in the past, then cohesion should not be a problem once they get back together. However, if there are new guys, then the injuries will delay the process of developing the chemistry of the OL.

  12. well three starers injured and your position coach passing will make things a little different for anyone. Welcome to Minnesota, Kirk. Weird things happen here, trust me.

  13. stellarperformance says:

    August 7, 2018 at 8:33 am

    It’s a good thing he comes with a guarantee.
    ==============================================
    Hey, hypocrite. Why are you on a Vikings story picking fights?!

  14. This O-line will likely be the key story for the Vikes this year, whether healthy or not. The O-line is average at best when healthy and Cousins is maybe a good, but certainly not elite starting QB. The difference is that the rest of the roster is very strong, meaning that Cousins and the O-line don’t have to carry the team to achieve success like at least a couple other teams in the NFCN.

    The only certainty is that Cousins will draw way more media and fan attention (both good and bad) than he deserves. He’s almost in a no-win situation. If he struggles, he’s an overpaid fake, and if he succeeds, he should have with the defense an offensive weapons at his disposal. Then again, he’s getting paid for it.

  15. This offense is so strong you could put pretty much any 5 sacks of meat you can find up front. Hopefully Siemian and Sloter have their running shoes on. Run baby run baby run baby run!

  16. ragnarthemagnificent says:
    August 7, 2018 at 11:13 am
    Kissing Cousins has a totally different meaning in MN vs Wisconsin.
    Superbowl Homeboys

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    We’ve been told that Vikings fans don’t declare Super Bowls. You must not really be a Vikings fan.

    Also, I don’t know, nor do I care, what you do with your cousins. I think it’s against the law, though.

  17. Why do we keep making the same mistake over and over. So got rid of three really good QB
    and pass on one of the best QB in the draft. For this $84 million dollar man. What has he done. it don’t make any sense. Our OL couldn’t protect a high school QB. Thank GOD we have a great Defense. But is that enough to get back NFC championship game, I really don’t know.
    It’s a proven fact that with that roof on our stadium there is no SUPERBOWL in our future.
    I just don’t see how we improve our over all team. Maybe that’s the feeling of being a life long vikings fan. Football is a game of injury, now we are one injury away from being put out of the play-offs.

  18. The Vikings offense made a guy who was undrafted and put up terrible stats his previous years into an MVP caliber QB. Does this mean Cousins will be MVP? No. But it’s my opinion that solidifying (and paying $84 million) the biggest question mark on the team was important for this team’s future success. It’s too early to tell, but I think there’s a lot of over-judgment involving Cousins and his contract. Also, I think that if the Vikings’ defense doesn’t show up for a game, it’s possible Cousins can lead us to a victory in a shootout. Which is something Keenum couldn’t do. So for now, can we just chill with the over-analyzing of Cousins and let this play out?

    #SkolVikes

  19. kaviles says:
    August 7, 2018 at 11:25 am
    Why do we keep making the same mistake over and over. So got rid of three really good QB
    and pass on one of the best QB in the draft.
    __________________

    Your team made this mistake, because the GM you guys rave about so much has no vision.
    I was openly questioning why your team had no QBs under contract for 2018 last October. ( This kind of gaffe is inexcusable )
    Leaving the cupboard bare at a team’s most valuable position is exactly why you had to overpay for Bradford’s services when Bridgewater went down.
    Clearly after reality had shown that the Vikings should have had that option in camp already competing with the underwhelming Bridgewater, you could have had him at a much cheaper price.

    The same thing happened this year.
    Having no alternatives or leverage, with no QBs under contract and the free agent market drying up fast, they were forced into a corner and had to land Cousins.
    Even though most of the NFL wasn’t interested in having him in for a visit.
    Will it work? You are all going to have to hope that it does.

  20. Here’s me saying the line will play well against Denver, and the experience will pay dividends. This is a good coaching staff and depth is not overlooked. The starting five will be in place against SF. Not worried!

  21. wafflestomp says:

    August 7, 2018 at 12:38 pm

    kaviles says:
    August 7, 2018 at 11:25 am
    Why do we keep making the same mistake over and over. So got rid of three really good QB
    and pass on one of the best QB in the draft.
    __________________

    Your team made this mistake, because the GM you guys rave about so much has no vision.
    I was openly questioning why your team had no QBs under contract for 2018 last October. ( This kind of gaffe is inexcusable )
    Leaving the cupboard bare at a team’s most valuable position is exactly why you had to overpay for Bradford’s services when Bridgewater went down.
    Clearly after reality had shown that the Vikings should have had that option in camp already competing with the underwhelming Bridgewater, you could have had him at a much cheaper price.

    The same thing happened this year.
    Having no alternatives or leverage, with no QBs under contract and the free agent market drying up fast, they were forced into a corner and had to land Cousins.
    Even though most of the NFL wasn’t interested in having him in for a visit.
    Will it work? You are all going to have to hope that it does.

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    It might be possible they weren’t forced into Cousin’s, but they wanted him so they let them all go. They probably could have made something work with Case one way or another if they really wanted to. Case Keenum could be a lighening in a bottle. Knock Cousin’s all you want for the losing record but the guy puts up Drew Brees numbers year after year even with poor offensive line play, no defense, and turn over at Skill positions.

    Their logic probably was that with the QB market as it is….chances are your going to over pay for someone. You might as well over pay for someone who you feel gives you the best chance at consistant QB play.

    Considering Case Keenum has been average his entire career (Stats wise, and winning wise)there is a good chance he could underperform. The Vikings probably would have had to 20 million to keep him, their logic is probably what’s another 8 million to get someone who has more of a track record.

    It’s a gamble either way.

  22. wafflestomp says:
    August 7, 2018 at 12:38 pm
    kaviles says:
    August 7, 2018 at 11:25 am
    Why do we keep making the same mistake over and over. So got rid of three really good QB
    and pass on one of the best QB in the draft.
    __________________

    Your team made this mistake, because the GM you guys rave about so much has no vision.
    I was openly questioning why your team had no QBs under contract for 2018 last October. ( This kind of gaffe is inexcusable )
    Leaving the cupboard bare at a team’s most valuable position is exactly why you had to overpay for Bradford’s services when Bridgewater went down.
    Clearly after reality had shown that the Vikings should have had that option in camp already competing with the underwhelming Bridgewater, you could have had him at a much cheaper price.

    The same thing happened this year.
    Having no alternatives or leverage, with no QBs under contract and the free agent market drying up fast, they were forced into a corner and had to land Cousins.
    Even though most of the NFL wasn’t interested in having him in for a visit.
    Will it work? You are all going to have to hope that it does.
    ———————————————

    After Spielman and Zimmer watched what Cousins did to the Vikings defense two years in a row and the fact that Kirk and his lovely wife were in the Cities house shopping during the Super Bowl I would say the decision on both sides was made a while ago. No need for other visits. Besides, the Vikings not only paid for his arm but also his two healthy knees. It’s only money.
    As a Packer fan you should learn that you don’t always have to overpay lesser and/or washed up talent. You can overpay a little for good talent too, believe it or not.

  23. ragnarthemagnificent says:
    August 7, 2018 at 1:12 pm
    Our worst is still better than most teams best.

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    That’s an odd statement from a fan of a team that needed a last second missed tackle to record their first playoff win in years.
    But uh……..you go ahead and go with that.
    Let’s see how far you get with it.

  24. footballfan3 says:
    August 7, 2018 at 9:22 am
    He chose to take 30 mil a year, if a writer or cousins complains this year at all about a make shift o line…. he got 30 mil a year

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    You sound like the kinda guy who would take a brand new Ferrari to demolition derby , “because I can”. If you are going to make such a big investment, why would you risk it during an EXHIBITION game. That makes no sense.

  25. Cousins is usually fine in the first parts of the game . . . its when the game is on the line that he usually wilts and falters!!

  26. Patch work line, hmmmm, that has been the normal here since Rick took over. He thinks ANY big guy from the last couple rounds can be coached up to play against the World Class Athletes on others Defenses… So this year, the same as 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, HEY RICK! DRAFT some Damn O linemen in the first few rounds the next couple of years, we have linebackers, DB’s RB’s and Wide receivers coming out our ears, but cant field one offensive line EVERY FREEKING YEAR….So much for that 84 Million QB, he will be on IR by the 3rd game because of you!

  27. Karras71 says:
    August 7, 2018 at 1:48 pm

    That’s an odd statement from a fan of a team that needed a last second missed tackle to record their first playoff win in years.
    But uh……..you go ahead and go with that.
    Let’s see how far you get with it.

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    Seriously ???? A Lions fan trying to make fun of another team’s playoff record and most recent win? Go worry about your team trying their hardest to place better than 3rd in their own division this year.

  28. Satanic Hell Creature says:
    August 7, 2018 at 3:29 pm
    Karras71 says:
    August 7, 2018 at 1:48 pm

    That’s an odd statement from a fan of a team that needed a last second missed tackle to record their first playoff win in years.
    But uh……..you go ahead and go with that.
    Let’s see how far you get with it.

    —————————-

    Seriously ???? A Lions fan trying to make fun of another team’s playoff record and most recent win? Go worry about your team trying their hardest to place better than 3rd in their own division this year.

    ****************************

    Yes, I may be a Lions fan, but I didn’t say anything about my team.
    And when I see a dumb statement, I’m going to call someone out.
    Just like I’d expect to get called out for doing the same.
    I guess I just don’t understand all of this silly, misplaced sense of entitlement your fan base seems to possess.
    And from the looks of things, I don’t believe I’m in the minority on this.

  29. Vikings fans understand that they’d have won every game they’ve ever played if it weren’t for bad refs, injuries (no matter how insignificant), and the other teams cheating.

  30. jbutina says:
    August 7, 2018 at 2:50 pm
    Cousins is usually fine in the first parts of the game . . . its when the game is on the line that he usually wilts and falters!!
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    This. Cousin’s has always reminded me of Brett Favre in a way. When the pressure is on, late in the game, they both make idiotic decisions. Only Favre had that arm that saved him many times. Cousins doesn’t have that arm.

    Cousins does turn the ball over and he turns it over when he shouldn’t. He is going to break the Vikings fans hearts just like so many other Vikings over the years. I think he’s the perfect fit for them. Will give them hope, then he will dash that hope on the rocks defeat.

    But Vikings fans already know that. It’s their life.

  31. Makeshift offensive line will make Cousins right at home from last year. For many games only, Morgan Moses the RT was in the starting lineup. He was basically playing on one leg and ended up having ankle surgery. Trent Williams played 75% of the season on one leg as well and ended uo with knee surgery. The left guard was more of a matador than a guard. Both the center and Brandon were injured and in some cases the backups were injured. I saw 3rd stringers for many games and one off the streets.

  32. For those that think Cousins had more talent to work with in Minnesota than he did in Washington, you couldn’t not be more wrong. Cousins best year was in ’15 and ’16 where had the best pass blocking oline in the league and inconsistent running game that allowed Cousins more opportunities cause the skins run less and threw more. He had Gruden and Mcvay coaching him closely and weapons that were better or at least on par than what he has now. Jordan Reed (at his healthiest) Desean Jackson, Pierre Garcon, Jamison Crowder and Vernon Davis and cousins only managed to throw for alot of yardage mostly in garbage time and coming from behind. His 2-1 TD to INT ratio is not worth $28 million guaranteed. Cousins is complete fools gold imo. Vikings will need Defense and an RB coming back from surgery at 100% to win this year. You don’t want to rely on Cousins to get you wins regularly.

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