Kyle Van Noy thinks Patriots defense will “show up a lot of people”

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When the Patriots defense was last on the field, they were giving up 41 points to an Eagles offense that had plenty of success on the ground and through the air during the Super Bowl.

The unit has hired a new coordinator in Brian Flores, undergone several personnel changes and gotten linebacker Dont'a Hightower back from a torn pectoral since that game, although none of those changes have led to many predictions about a marked difference on that side of the ball in New England. Linebacker Kyle Van Noy offered a different view.

Van Noy called the defense “sneaky quiet” and that silence will allow them to take people by surprise.

“I think we’re the most slept on linebacker group in the league right now,” Van Noy said, via the Boston Herald. “It’s all good. We like that. We’re going to use that to our advantage and show up a lot of people.”

The Patriots defense gave up a lot of yards last season, but the team still ranked fifth in the league in points allowed. A repeat of the results on the points front would be welcomed, especially if it also comes with a drop in yards allowed that gives Tom Brady more chances with the football.

50 responses to “Kyle Van Noy thinks Patriots defense will “show up a lot of people”

  1. Rate This
    terripet says:
    August 7, 2018 at 8:01 am
    Hang a banner

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    I have already told you that there is only one team lame enough to hang banners for trivial accomplishments

  2. I agree.

    You don’t go from the #1 ranked D in 2016 and a ring, to the best D down the stretch last year while so undermanned, to a loss in the SB by a TD, to this decrepit defense overnight. There is way too much talent there.

    A guy like Van Noy is also incredibly underrated along with Trey Flowers.

    Vsn Noy would be, by far and away, Pitt’s best LB right now, for example.

    This all stems from the money-making narrative that BB is a big meanie, not good anymore and NE lost in the SB. The narrative will be pushed and pushed until every inbred mouthbreather around continues to repeat it. Once the season starts, all of this crap goes away, and little Collie Cowherd, and Felger and Mazz, will see their ratings drop a bit.

  3. whywerule says:
    August 7, 2018 at 8:00 am
    A little surprising from a normally quiet guy. I hope he is right, but he might have to pay for that on ‘The Hill’ today.

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    Oh, I now he is right. Nice quality and depth and they cannot wait to slap the taste of Butler’s cancer out of their mouth from last year, especially in secondary.

    The fact that Butler drama is gone, has to be a big relie for them.

  4. terripet says:
    August 7, 2018 at 8:01 am
    Hang a banner
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    This is what happens to colts fans when their patsanoia goes untreated. The sad part is with early detection and treatment it could have been prevented. Patsanoia, the danger is real.

  5. silvernblacksabbath says:
    August 7, 2018 at 8:59 am
    Van Noy just entered Belichick’s dog house! lol

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    Nope. BB is quietly smiling inside.

    Pats will be licking their chops early and often. Cancerous Butler is gone and they’ll feel refreshed after the drama of last season by selfish Butler and Branch.

  6. I know Patricia was painted as rocket scientist/ mad genius/ D-coordinator but I do think some of these guys were held back from being as aggressive as they could be.

  7. tylawspick6 says:
    August 7, 2018 at 9:07 am

    Pats will be licking their chops early and often. Cancerous Butler is gone and they’ll feel refreshed after the drama of last season by selfish Butler and Branch.
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    There’s a bit of revisionism, Butler admitted he let his contract situation become a distraction but he was far from a ‘cancer’ and was quite well liked his teammates. I’ll give you Branch checking out after getting paid but their situations were far from analogous.

  8. tylawspick6 says:

    “You don’t go from the #1 ranked D in 2016 and a ring, to the best D down the stretch last year while so undermanned, to a loss in the SB by a TD, to this decrepit defense overnight. There is way too much talent there.”
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    As a diehard Pats fan I would love to believe the top defense/ lowest points/ best D down the stretch last year, but except for Pittsburgh, that ‘down the stretch” last 8 games consisted of Jay Cutler Dolphins twice, Tyrod Taylor Bills twice, Jets- nuff said, awful, downward trending Derek Carr Raiders, and the Trevor Siemen Broncos. And in that Pitt game the D nearly lost it on what should have been a 5 yard slant reception for Schuster. The refs got the Jesse James catch call review change correct, but that really could have gone any way- and ultimately it was Steelers inept coaching/meltdown which gave the game away.

    They’ll be better this year for sure, but D still worries me, and Bill’s D seems to get killed every time we face a mobile QB.

  9. .
    There’s a lot of questions on the Patriots defense going into the season. They added Shelton via trade and Clayborn in free agency. Plus, they get Hightower Valentine, Rivers, Wise, Langi, and both Jonathan and Cyrus Jones back from IR. How this will all come together is unknown. I wouldn’t expect much from the draft choices as they were taken late.
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  10. tylawspick6 says:
    August 7, 2018 at 8:50 am
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    Oh, I now he is right. Nice quality and depth and they cannot wait to slap the taste of Butler’s cancer out of their mouth from last year, especially in secondary.
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    For crying out loud, “Butlers Cancer”

    Right because harrison, Amendola, Gronk,Gilmore, Brady, and Matt Patricia (among others) all publicly on record about what a great teammate Butler was = cancer- Right.

    So cancerous that the Houston Texans, Lions, and titans were all interested in him, Titans gave him a 60 Mill (or whatever) contract, and Oh- ALL three of those teams consist of former Patriots in coaching positions and front office, who, undoubtedly still have contacts within the pats organization. Real Cancerous.

  11. nflfan12blog says:
    August 7, 2018 at 9:37 am
    tylawspick6 says:
    August 7, 2018 at 8:50 am
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    Oh, I now he is right. Nice quality and depth and they cannot wait to slap the taste of Butler’s cancer out of their mouth from last year, especially in secondary.
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    For crying out loud, “Butlers Cancer”

    Right because harrison, Amendola, Gronk,Gilmore, Brady, and Matt Patricia (among others) all publicly on record about what a great teammate Butler was = cancer- Right.

    So cancerous that the Houston Texans, Lions, and titans were all interested in him, Titans gave him a 60 Mill (or whatever) contract, and Oh- ALL three of those teams consist of former Patriots in coaching positions and front office, who, undoubtedly still have contacts within the pats organization. Real Cancerous.

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    False. Detroit was in no way interested, which is VERY telling.

    Here are two quotes, from unnamed Pats personnel, one likely being Patricia, the other someone in the secondary, possibly McCourty or Chung:

    1. “He was a challenge to get ‘ready’ (mentally) all year.”
    2. “Not everyone agreed with it (benching in SB), but he knows why he was benched.”

    Yes, a cancer.

    He was awful most of the year with a 103 passer rating, was showing up teammates in Sept, cleaned out his locker after the AFC title game and was praciticing poorly SB week.

    He and Branch were pouting babies, each missing during the SB due to inferior play and bad attitudes.

    These are facts.

  12. nflfan12blog says:
    August 7, 2018 at 9:25 am
    tylawspick6 says:

    “You don’t go from the #1 ranked D in 2016 and a ring, to the best D down the stretch last year while so undermanned, to a loss in the SB by a TD, to this decrepit defense overnight. There is way too much talent there.”
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    As a diehard Pats fan I would love to believe the top defense/ lowest points/ best D down the stretch last year, but except for Pittsburgh, that ‘down the stretch” last 8 games consisted of Jay Cutler Dolphins twice, Tyrod Taylor Bills twice, Jets- nuff said, awful, downward trending Derek Carr Raiders, and the Trevor Siemen Broncos. And in that Pitt game the D nearly lost it on what should have been a 5 yard slant reception for Schuster. The refs got the Jesse James catch call review change correct, but that really could have gone any way- and ultimately it was Steelers inept coaching/meltdown which gave the game away.

    They’ll be better this year for sure, but D still worries me, and Bill’s D seems to get killed every time we face a mobile QB.

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    There;s nothing to “believe”. You seem to have trouble with facts.

    Even with the captain of the D down (Highwtower), and numerous other key pieces missing, who were vital to the 7 points allowed in the second half of SB 51, like McCLellin, Branch, Butler, Valentine, etc, they allowed the fewest amount of points from Otc 1 – Week 17.

    I am not saying they faced stiff competition I am saying those are the facts and they were decimated by injury. And, it doesn’t take into account how all the good players (Van Noy, Flowers, etc), are affected by the trickle down effect due to injury.

    It is what it is. Injuries are part of the game, but you’d think the team stunk when all of this jibberish comes from them simply losing a coin toss Super Bowl in the cap era.

    If Brady holds on to an easy pass, if he doesn’t fumble on 2nd and 2, if the D makes one of the 4th and 1 stops, if Goodell doesn’t cheat, no one is saying a word about this.

    This is all creepy media brainwashing for the anti-BB crowd.

  13. commentawaitingdeletion says:
    August 7, 2018 at 9:17 am
    tylawspick6 says:
    August 7, 2018 at 9:07 am

    Pats will be licking their chops early and often. Cancerous Butler is gone and they’ll feel refreshed after the drama of last season by selfish Butler and Branch.
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    There’s a bit of revisionism, Butler admitted he let his contract situation become a distraction but he was far from a ‘cancer’ and was quite well liked his teammates. I’ll give you Branch checking out after getting paid but their situations were far from analogous.

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    What the classy BB and the coaches/players say publicly does not reflect on what Butler did or how he performed.

    CLearly, his rejecting of a Chris Harrisqesue contract carried over into the season, which is preposterous to think Butler is better than Chris Harris.

    Butler rejected what made him the highest paid nickel in the NFL. I am sure BB and Kraft were perplexed by the whole thing. But, Butler not putting it behind him and playing like crap, and then doing what he did leading into the SB, was at least partially detrimental to an injury-riddled D.

    You can’t let 27 year old adults off the hook for cancerous behavior. Sorry. I don’t care how great a story Butler was in NE. He ruined it and ruined himself.

  14. daddeeo says:
    August 7, 2018 at 9:58 am
    just don’t get spanked in the big game again, eh?

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    Hopefully, Philly doesn’t get spanked either. Maybe Goodell can give the next opponent a free 14 points, too?

    Maybe NE’s D can overcome that if healthier.

    Oh, you little cheater Goodellites, you.

  15. nflfan12blog says:
    August 7, 2018 at 9:25 am
    tylawspick6 says:

    “You don’t go from the #1 ranked D in 2016 and a ring, to the best D down the stretch last year while so undermanned, to a loss in the SB by a TD, to this decrepit defense overnight. There is way too much talent there.”
    ——————————–

    As a diehard Pats fan I would love to believe the top defense/ lowest points/ best D down the stretch last year, but except for Pittsburgh, that ‘down the stretch” last 8 games consisted of Jay Cutler Dolphins twice, Tyrod Taylor Bills twice, Jets- nuff said, awful, downward trending Derek Carr Raiders, and the Trevor Siemen Broncos. And in that Pitt game the D nearly lost it on what should have been a 5 yard slant reception for Schuster. The refs got the Jesse James catch call review change correct, but that really could have gone any way- and ultimately it was Steelers inept coaching/meltdown which gave the game away.

    They’ll be better this year for sure, but D still worries me, and Bill’s D seems to get killed every time we face a mobile QB.

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    You do realize the whole reason why the Jesse James play even occurred is because Rowe was on a torn groin tryin to trail a drag router from Schuster-Smith, right?

    Injuries can be tough to overcome.

    I liked Patricia, but I didn’t agree with everything he did.

    NE will wipe the floor with the field, if healthy this year. It’s that simple.

  16. patsfiend says:
    August 7, 2018 at 8:28 am
    Would have preferred maybe one single stop in the last game you played Kyle.

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    I would have preferred Brady being awake for once to start a SB, not dropping a ball my grandmother could have caught, or fumbling on 2nd and 2 with the rush right in front of him, with Brady0Lock in full effect.

    How about that?

    Funny how Brady gets off scot-free when the game is close and they lose.

    Numerous plays could have been made. The OL was outstanding and demolished that overrated Eagles D.

  17. raoool says:
    August 7, 2018 at 10:08 am
    don’t forget the 41 points was to the backup QB
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    Don’t forget, Philly gave up 505 yards passing to a backup QB who did, in his college and pro career, sit behind a list of players that includes:

    Brian Griese
    Drew Henson
    Drew Bledsoe (okay, he was good)
    Damon Huard
    Michael Bishop
    …and others

  18. raoool says:
    August 7, 2018 at 10:08 am
    don’t forget the 41 points was to the backup QB

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    MVP candidates are not back ups. Obviously in the right system, Foles is a legit starter.

    How did Minny do vs a “back up” QB?

    All we heard about was how legebdary Minny’s D was.

    Goodell handed Philly 2 free TDs, One on a clear and factual incompletion by rule and the other, the ref apparently told Jeffrey he could cheat on the formation, and ignored the illegal formation.

    So, the Pats win the game if not for blatant Goodell cheating. I love how people can’t enjoy a SB win and go home laughing knowing they got away with one. They need to remind us HOW they got away with it, which is pathetic considering Goodell has been caught so many times.

    I am still laughing at the Dion Lewis “fumble” in the title game which, by replay, was so clearly not a fumble since it was firmly pinned to his hip all the way to the ground.

    It’s what replay is for, but it’s ignored when NE plays in the game, especially AFTER calls that were ruled correctly earlier in the season, called the right way, were magically perceived as giving NE gifts. Only in Goodell’s cheating world and yours, does that make sense.

  19. whywerule says:
    August 7, 2018 at 10:20 am
    raoool says:
    August 7, 2018 at 10:08 am
    don’t forget the 41 points was to the backup QB
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    Don’t forget, Philly gave up 505 yards passing to a backup QB who did, in his college and pro career, sit behind a list of players that includes:

    Brian Griese
    Drew Henson
    Drew Bledsoe (okay, he was good)
    Damon Huard
    Michael Bishop
    …and others

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    None of those guys were ever league MVO candidates either. And, none of them were handed a free 14 points in a SB either.

  20. “don’t forget the 41 points was to the backup QB”

    A couple years before that Foles was a pro bowl starter with 28 TDs and 2 INTs. He is not some crap “backup” like you people infer. He is a competent starter when he gets competent coaching for his skill set.

    Yes a beaten up Pats D had a lot of trouble in the SB against an Eagles team that played their hearts out. Congrats to them but lets stop this false “Pats were beaten by a crappy backup QB” stuff. Foles could start for at least 1/3 of the teams in the league.

  21. PAUL SOUSA says:
    August 7, 2018 at 9:12 am
    I know Patricia was painted as rocket scientist/ mad genius/ D-coordinator but I do think some of these guys were held back from being as aggressive as they could be.

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    Hers’ the deal.

    The jey to the RPO is not getting a run game going. If the Pats front 7, as undermanned as it was, and as inexperienced as it was with two rookies (Butler and Wise) forced to take on so many snaps, was simply a bit better, that RPO wouldn’t have looked as good.

    The RPO is as gimmicky as the Wildcate and every other gimmickk offense that trickkles into the pros.

    The problem was, Philly’s O Line played well as did Foles. If you isolate a run game, that allows you to dictate and attack (think 2011 playoffs vs Tebow and Denver).

    But, you have to give credit to Philly for attacking and the playcalling.

    For example, NE”s red zone D is very good, but most of their strikes came from outside the 20.

    That pass to Jeffrey to start the scoring was an absolute seed. It was perfect coverage by Rowe.

    And, we know about the textbook coverage by Flowers on Clement, and how that was simply given to Philly. When people should be praising the players on the D< they can't because Goodell is a cheater based on what NFL fans want.

    Gee, I wonder why ratings keep dropping.

  22. tylawspick6 says:
    August 7, 2018 at 10:05 am

    What the classy BB and the coaches/players say publicly does not reflect on what Butler did or how he performed.
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    You called him a “Cancer”

    So, 3 teams with office/coaching history with the Pats interested in him, a player refusing a contract, and literally the biggest stars on the team, and half the rest of the squad PUBLICLY calling Butler one of the best teammates and you can call him a “Cancer” Preposterous.

    Frankly, until you explain your “Humans don’t go to the hospital for the flu” comments from last week I don’t see how you have any credibility here.

    i love the Pats, well past their super Bowl loss, but no one deserves to be called a locker room “cancer” less than Malcolm Butler.

    The first half of the season the Patriots, literally had the worst defense in the ENTIRE HISTORY of the NFL (caps for emphasis, not yelling) and then except for 1 team, played some of the worst offensive teams the last 8 games, pretty much BUSTS the myth that the Pats had anywhere near the “Best scoring defense” at any point, in any practical matter. The reality is the patriots defense was absolutely lousy all last year (well, I’ll give you the Falcons game)

    The (one of) best thing about the upcoming year is that they will be better, and i can hardly wait to see what Bill can do with them, and if Flores will have any change/impact.

  23. Remember that time the vaunted Patriots defence played a backup quarterback missing a HOFer on his offensive line? Remember how they forced them to punt once? Only a bunch of defensive superstars could hold a backup qb to 370 yards passing.

    Patriots : if you aint cheating, you aint trying. Its the Cheatriot way.

  24. tylawspick6 says:

    False. Detroit was in no way interested, which is VERY telling.
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    “Butler definitely has a point. Among the teams that made plays for him in free agency were the Detroit Lions (whose new head coach, Matt Patricia, was the Patriots’ defensive coordinator through Super Bowl LII) and Houston Texans (whose head coach, Bill O’Brien, is a former Patriots assistant who still has strong relationships with many in the organization). Presumably, if Butler had done something that upsetting to provoke his benching, each coach would have had reservations about making that kind of financial commitment.”

    Michael Silver.

    Butler sure was “cancer” right/

    Why don’t “Humans don’t go to the hospital for the flu” anyway Mr. 6? Still waiting on that gem!

    Pats have made 3 Superbowls in 4 years, and won 2- I surely hate the Commisioner, but the Goodell Conspiracy theories are stretching it a bit- Eagles were good to great all season long. The Pats with Bellichik and Brady have a track record of beating superior teams, but Philly was just too stacked, even with all of their injuries- it was a great win by them.

    Can’t wait for this years game, and what Bill has in store for this years team!

  25. The Vikings had the #1 rated defense last year and gave up 38 points to Nick Foles and the Eagles. In fact after Minnesota scored to make it 7-0 the Eagles scored 38 straight points. At least the SB was a back and forth great game.

    But to some it’s all BB’s fault. Apparently they know more than BB. Mmmm-kay.

  26. Only a bunch of defensive superstars could hold a backup qb to 370 yards passing.
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    Minnesota (again the 2017 #1 ranked Defense) had a defense full of super stars and held that nack up QB to 352 yards (3TD’s no INTS)

    At least the Pats forced an INT. (Spolier alert It wasn’t Butler. It was Duron Harman.)

    Seems Foles balled out vs whoever he played. How about giving credit to Nick Foles for playing like a stud. Can you do that? Are you capable of giving credit to others or are you only capable of discrediting others. What have you done in your life to make you look down on the rest of us?

  27. factschecker says:
    August 7, 2018 at 11:13 am
    Only a bunch of defensive superstars could hold a backup qb to 370 yards passing.
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    Minnesota (again the 2017 #1 ranked Defense) had a defense full of super stars and held that nack up QB to 352 yards (3TD’s no INTS)

    At least the Pats forced an INT. (Spolier alert It wasn’t Butler. It was Duron Harman.)

    Seems Foles balled out vs whoever he played. How about giving credit to Nick Foles for playing like a stud. Can you do that? Are you capable of giving credit to others or are you only capable of discrediting others. What have you done in your life to make you look down on the rest of us?

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    Agreed. Said it the entire time. How hard is it to admit Foles was throwing darts from the whistle and Brady, sadly, yet again, was asleep in another 1st qtr of a SB.

  28. nflfan12blog says:
    August 7, 2018 at 10:38 am
    tylawspick6 says:
    August 7, 2018 at 10:05 am

    What the classy BB and the coaches/players say publicly does not reflect on what Butler did or how he performed.
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    You called him a “Cancer”

    So, 3 teams with office/coaching history with the Pats interested in him, a player refusing a contract, and literally the biggest stars on the team, and half the rest of the squad PUBLICLY calling Butler one of the best teammates and you can call him a “Cancer” Preposterous.

    Frankly, until you explain your “Humans don’t go to the hospital for the flu” comments from last week I don’t see how you have any credibility here.

    i love the Pats, well past their super Bowl loss, but no one deserves to be called a locker room “cancer” less than Malcolm Butler.

    The first half of the season the Patriots, literally had the worst defense in the ENTIRE HISTORY of the NFL (caps for emphasis, not yelling) and then except for 1 team, played some of the worst offensive teams the last 8 games, pretty much BUSTS the myth that the Pats had anywhere near the “Best scoring defense” at any point, in any practical matter. The reality is the patriots defense was absolutely lousy all last year (well, I’ll give you the Falcons game)

    The (one of) best thing about the upcoming year is that they will be better, and i can hardly wait to see what Bill can do with them, and if Flores will have any change/impact.

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    Until I explain it, little Millennial? Did your mommy take you to the doctor, spiking healthcare costs for the sniffles, too? O I bet she did, didn’t she?

    Meanhwile, the rest of us, hit the sack, take some theraflu and ride it out.

    Get it?

    I am not a Millennial and not a moron. Butler cleaned out his locker ,so he had enough energy for that, didn’t he?

    I also saw his body language all through Septemeber finger-pointing against his own teammates, when our own fans were following his lead trying to blame the new guy (Gilmore).

    Gilmore then slowly started playing better and Butler got WORSE.

    Yes, a “cancer”.

    This was Butler’s choice. I am sure Kraft and BB were stunned he rejected the very generous offer.

    Only Butler thinks he’s a #1 lock down CB. Well, apparently Tenn does, too, but they’ll regret that knee jerk over-payment.

  29. raoool says:
    August 7, 2018 at 10:08 am
    don’t forget the 41 points was to the backup QB
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    Foles was lights out in that game and I while I didn’t like what the end result of it meant for my team I am fan enough of the game to give credit where it’s due and tip my cap to him. Montana, Brady, Brees or Marino couldn’t have done it any better. Folks need to quit dismissing what Foles did.

  30. The Lions were absolutely in on Butler and were one of the final 2teams. They just couldn’t pay as much as the Titans because they paid Slay. Only the worst kind of fans tear down ex players after they leave to get paid.

  31. “Ow, my arm — it’s broken!” —Luck
    __________________________
    “I’ve got a chip on my shoulder” -Andrew Luck
    😀 we know bro

  32. As a Pats fan I can only say one thing!!
    After their Super Bowl showing this D has absolutely no where to go but up!!!!! They were awful and blew the game.

  33. The Patriots were good enough to make the Super Bowl. Their D wasn’t great for sure by they made the most of it they could after a very rough start to the season.

    I don’t think we, the Patriots fans, should be so spoiled that we can’t accept that last year was a successful season and we had a great team.

  34. tylawspick6 says:
    August 7, 2018 at 11:22 am

    Until I explain it, little Millennial? Did your mommy take you to the doctor, spiking healthcare costs for the sniffles, too? O I bet she did, didn’t she?

    Meanhwile, the rest of us, hit the sack, take some theraflu and ride it out.

    Get it?

    I am not a Millennial and not a moron. Butler cleaned out his locker ,so he had enough energy for that, didn’t he?

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    Uhh- okay. Not sure why you have an incessant need to call people “Millenial” since you don’t know them.

    My experience is when someone says they “are not a moron” they generally are.

    The Flu is not the “sniffles”- particularly to an NFL player headed for the Superbowl.

    “Not a Moron’ calls Butler a “cancer”- and sticks with it- despite not a SINGLE person EVER coming forward to support your theory, and a dozen coming forward saying the exact opposite- including Stephon Gilmore who, apparently you think, but he doesn’t think that Butler was “blaming” him. Amendola, Gronk and Brady, among others all said PUBLICLY they thought Butler should have been in there, and was a BELOVED teamate- when was the last time you have EVER heard comments like this coming out of the Patriots camp? Never.

    Yes, of course, cleaning out your locker when you KNOW you are never coming back to the facility is a sign of someone being a locker room “Cancer”- simply Preposterous

    You said “Lions weren’t interested in him”- well you were just shown to be wrong on that- Lions, Texans, and Titans all showed interest in this “cancer”- despite being filled with ex Patriot office personnel. Quite a feat for a “Cancer”- a 60 Mill cancer now.

    So, lets see, you ignore all facts and actions coming directly from players and coaches, use your own suppositions long after they have been de-bunked, and then resort to name calling, and calling someone a “Millenial”- but, of course your ACTIONS and comments are exactly that of a so- called “Snowflake Millenial”.

    On a better note, I like Kyle van Noy’s thinking, shows the D has a bit of a chip on their shoulders this year. You could see Van Noy stepping up his game last year until he got hurt, and I would really like to see if Eric Rowe will take a step forward and show Bill’s trust in him is deserved.

    Reports from the PFW guys say the D actually looks better than the offense in Training Camp this year, and all of them agreed that Gilmore has been the best player on the field so far.

    And I am curious to see how much input Brian Flores gets with the Defense this year.

  35. Ivan Pavlov says:
    August 7, 2018 at 4:29 pm

    Since when is Kyle Van Noy a defensive leader and not a role player?
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    I get what your saying, but i think last year it is fair to say he started taking on a bit more leadership, at least till he got hurt with a nagging season long injury.

    He was also made more visible to the Press last season.

  36. This is strictly conjecture, but imagine if you would . Bill telling Butler. Either you get you head in the game or I’m benching you. Than Butler replying “you wouldn’t have one of those rings if it weren’t for me”. Bill than reply’s . Is that right! The rest is history….just saying

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