Aaron Rodgers would do away with franchise tags, hard caps

AP

Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers just happens to be in the middle of a contract negotiation. And he just happens to have bought a minority stake in the NBA’s Milwaukee Bucks this offseason.

So bringing those two worlds together, he likes the idea of the NFL eventually adopting the NBA’s “soft cap” approach to accounting.

Unlike the NFL, NBA teams can exceed the cap if they’re willing to pay a luxury tax, and Rodgers sees the NFL’s revenue increases as allowing a similar method.

We have sort of a tough situation,” Rodgers told Kevin Clark of The Ringer. “I think one thing you could definitely look at that would influence the way contracts are done is a hard cap versus a non-hard cap—like the NBA, where there’s a cap, then there’s luxury tax. . . .

“I would allow teams to go over the cap knowing if they do, since there’s not a hard cap, they are going to be faced with some luxury tax issues and they’d change their strategy. It’s not like we’re hurting—just like the NBA, we’re not hurting for revenue. We’re doing excellent in the NFL and the NBA is doing fantastic as well.”

Rodgers had a number of other suggestions which borrowed from the NBA’s financial plan, including a version of the mid-level exception, which he thinks could provide some security to veteran players. (There’s already the veteran minimum benefit, which allows teams to get a cap break for signing older players to one-year deals, but the NBA’s mid-level was $8.4 million last year, so there’s a big difference there.)

The Packers quarterback would also do away with the franchise tags.

“Because I think that gives the team a lot of power over your future, and they can tag you a couple of times,” he said. “That, obviously, restricts player movement. . . .

“I think if you didn’t have it, it would encourage teams to get deals done earlier and in the long run it actually might save them money. Because you’re doing a guy’s deal a year before he’s ready to play, especially young guys. Maybe they get him for cheap and, if he has a huge season his last year, cheaper than they would have gotten him after that season, if you sign him early.”

Of course, NFL owners are probably in no hurry to adopt any of Rodgers’ suggestions, since they’re making money at a high rate as things stand. But as it pertains to his own negotiation with the Packers, it serves as an insight to his mindset, as he’s been reported to be looking for some creative structures in his next deal.

155 responses to “Aaron Rodgers would do away with franchise tags, hard caps

  1. Just ditch the franchise tags and extend the fifth year option to second round players as well. Keep the hard cap. Also bring in someone with a background in analytics to explain that difference to the NFL players during the next strike between money allocations for a 15 man roster and a 53 man roster. This “we want to be the NBA” chant is nonsensical and is getting a bit tired.

  2. Please let him play out his current contract & tag him as so,so,so many cheesheads have explicitly predict.
    It’s now evident that aaron would end his career the same 1st three years; on the bench sulking questioning his worth.

  3. I think fans like the franchise tag. I don’t want my best players bolting because they showed up in a contract year. A one-year, “prove it” deal motivates them to play well.

  4. There has to be a limit on the definition of a soft cap because the more financially inclined franchises will push the limits. I do believe that teams that draft a player should have flexibility on the cap to “keep their players”, but once again at some type of limit. Can’t go back to <1995 football.

  5. ETA: When the franchise tag is dropped, players must realize that the big increase in salaries we now see year to year will likely soften as well. The tag is “used” as a bargaining chip and salary minimum in contract negotiations by the player and the agent. Without the tag, the bargaining is likely to start at a lower level. As it stands right now, players are getting paid more than they likely would, if they had not received the franchise tag.

  6. If you do away with the hard cap say goodbye to one of the most compelling things about the NFL: parity.

    The league will have to deal with the same issues as the NBA; namely super teams and tankers with a completely irrelevant middle class of teams.

  7. No no and hell no. That is what is terrible about the NBA. The cap means nothing, and all of the really good players are on like four teams. No one wants to see Jerrah spend his way to another ring.

  8. The Packers quarterback would also do away with the franchise tags.

    “I think if you didn’t have it, it would encourage teams to get deals done earlier and in the long run it actually might save them money. Because you’re doing a guy’s deal a year before he’s ready to play, especially young guys. Maybe they get him for cheap and, if he has a huge season his last year, cheaper than they would have gotten him after that season, if you sign him early.”
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    What about when said player is worried about what the newest deal out there is when he’s still under contract, Aaron? lol

  9. I do agree with him on the franchise tag…..while the “soft cap” was a good theory perhaps…you are seeing the problems with it, manifest themselves in the problem that the NBA is going to have to deal with….competitive balance….the NBA right now is one “A” team and the next team (Houston?) is maybe a “C”

  10. The day the NFL gets rid of the hard cap is the day I stop becoming a fan. I have never said that before but I truly mean it.

    Parity is what drives the NFL and keeps fans coming back. If the richest owner could build a super team just because he has more money, why would anyone stick around? The NBA regular season (and now the first two rounds of the playoffs) are boring and worthless because you know who the top 3-4 teams are. The luxury tax thing is just a way for owners to make more money, at the expense of paying players and fielding a good team. It doesn’t benefit the fans at all.

  11. Eventually, these guys will kill the goose that laid the golden egg…greed will drive up salaries, super teams, higher ticket prices that are already taking out the average Joe…well, you get the jest of it.

  12. Yea because the NBA has created such a great model for competition. You never know which teams will come out on top….such great drama

  13. No and no. Sorry Aaron part of what makes the NFL good are these 2 things. The tag allows a team to keep one player a year to make up for all the busts and failures they spend millions on, and as Cousins demonstrated you can make huge, life changing money if you ride out the tag years.

    The hard cap is great and the whole luxury tax thing is a joke. I don’t know about the NBA but after they initiated the luxury tax in MLB the owners who were supposed to spend those payments on player salaries instead pocketed the money and didn’t spend a dime on players. The teams willing to spend get much better and the rest remain mired in mediocrity or worse.

  14. $30 million/ yr is now not enough for players today to play football. I’m not interested in paying the players any more money. The more money the owners pay their players, the more they have to charge fans for their product to make up for the extra expenses.

    While these players are complaining about whether they will get $40 or $50 million in guarantees to play football or basketball, it’s now costing me over $800 to take my family to a single game for decent seats when I add everything up. No thank you. I’m out.

  15. Yes Aaron…..Thats what makes the NFL so competitive……and the NBA fixed…..

    Hard cap vs. soft cap……

    Who wants to see Dallas trying to win the NFL title every year by spending $300 million…..

    The NBA is unwatchable……

    With this attitude…..It looks like “replacement” players are in order for NFL fans in the future……

  16. I think the NFL should adopt the Lebron method. Just let players get together in the offseason and cook up a team they like and refuse to play for anyone else. Remove all caps and let the market decide.

  17. That’s just a stupid idea Aaron.the hard cap keeps all teams on a level playing field and the small market team can compete. Look at how the NBA team are stacked because of it.whats with this guy lately!!!

  18. . “That, obviously, restricts player movement. . . .
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    Make no mistake, these comments are all out him and his current situation where he is crying about some other QBs making more money than him and if he does not get it he wants out.

  19. I think teams should have some kind of exemption for the Elways, Rodgers, Reggies…

    But on the other hand, if you can’t fit your team under a $177,000,000 cap, you should probably go looking for a new CFO/cap whizz..

  20. Apparently players assume that NFL franchise owners have no other employees, no property, no buildings, no agreements with companies, or ANY other business obligation that comprises overhead for which the franchise is responsible.
    Rodgers, and many of his fellow players, as well as the NFLPA, simply view the NFL and its franchises as cash cows that exist solely for player benefit.
    No Aaron. No.
    Get a clue. Clearly you majored in basket weaving at Cal, not business.
    The NFL nor its franchises, are accountable to you or any players and the franchise salary structure should never be changed at the whim of an idiot player who is merely an overpaid employee.

  21. LOL, Vikings fans have now had to see four Rodgers headlines, in the past 24 hours. Even after breaking his collarbone, which ended up not helping them one bit, this gives them a “twitch” and a feeling of restlessness. That’s hilarious.

  22. Funny, he talks about signing a guy cheaper if they sign him early and it would be good for teams. Meanwhile he wants to renegotiate his deal with 2 years left and make a stipulation that he can rip up if another QB gets more money then him.

  23. What’s funny is I’ve heard the NBA would love to give teams a “franchise tag” I can’t imagine it ever happens, but it might be the only way to create parity in that league rather than just half of the true stars of the league wind up on a handful of teams.

  24. Notice there was nothing wrong with the NFL’s salary rules when he accepted the large signing bonus with he current long term deal. But now he does not like where he is at so he would rather see the NFL’s rule that benefit all team’s equally blown up in favor of himself.

  25. The NBA salary structure is as confusing as the United States tax code. Bird rights, mid level exceptions, stretch provisions, buying out contracts, etc. Its not uncommon to see a guy making $10M on the end of a bench, only there because his salary number made a different trade work out. Its ludicrous.

    And fully guaranteed contracts? How many more Haynesworths will we see?

  26. It will be interesting if Rodgers ever tries to utilize the power he has to get what he wants… He’s on a team that spends virtually nothing surrounding him with decent players and he’s 95 percent of the reason the team has been competitive. If he was disgruntled with the Packers, I think few would blame him.

  27. I think the hard cap is what makes the game interesting. It prevents an ego maniac from dumping a ton of money into his team and buying a championship.
    What Aaron Rodgers should want changed is players getting more than 49% or 47.5% of the cap. Maybe 52.5% of the cap money would be better.
    I think players get badly hurt, so getting a bit more seems reasonable.

    As for removing the franchise tag, I think its abused and since players outside of QB have short careers it harms them. A franchise tag for a QB I’m ok with.

  28. This is an apples and oranges thing. Football players have long been jealous of the NBA players money but the economics are different. 53 man roster vs 14. The NFL revenue would have to be 4x the NBA (4x the roster size) for the players to be in a comparable money situation.

    In the NBA you don’t need a team as much as you need 1-2 superstars with 60% of the roster being scrubs who rarely see the court. The NFL is more of a team game with a higher percentage of the players seeing significant playing time.

    There have been whole essays written about this but it really comes down to Rogers wanting to be paid like LeBron. In the NFL, i don’t care who the player is, the team will not win with 1 player taking up 40% of the cap.

  29. Can the NFL please do away with this guy already? Selfish, Greedy, Throws Everybody Under the Bus, Loud Mouth, that EVERYONE is getting TIRED of! Dude won ONE ring ONE, just like Foles, Just like Wilson, Brees etc…. but this Clowns EGO is just to big even for OBJ! I Truly use to LIKE this guy! Now I cant stand him!

  30. It would instantly ruin the League. Look at baseball as an example. A soft cap is no different than “no cap” to these owners. I was a huge fan and have actually attended games in 16 different World Series….but because of the no-cap-disparity that prevails today, haven’t even watched a single game since 2011. Its like watching the Globetrotters play the Generals and cheering for the Generals, The NFL and NHL understand the importance of parity.

  31. Of coarse he would. All players would. That would give them potentially unlimited earning potential.

  32. I think they need to raise the salary cap substantially and make all contracts guaranteed. It is odd to me that the NFL has the shortest shelf life and most medical implications for players down the road, yet they make less than MLB or NBA players AND their contracts are not guaranteed. I get the size of the roster means there may be less cap space to go around, but a trade-off of a lower (comparatively speaking) salary should be that it is assured.

  33. Green Bay would not be a good team without the salary cap. It would be like the NBA. Some elite players would be rich and the others would be minimum paychecks. Aaron Rodgers is just a greedy, selfish A-Hole. No one is going to listen to his stupid ideas anyways. Just play ball and shut up!

  34. No cap and a luxury tax situation? Tell us, Aaron, how the Packers would survive in Green Bay?

  35. If players want to be looked at as partners by the Team Owners instead of mindless subordinates they would negotiate for a soft cap and the elimination of franchise tags so the payroll inflation can be more reflective of the growth of League revenue.

    Also they need guaranteed contracts. Stop negotiating for things like softer practices and less practice time. Talk money. All these Jerry Jones and Mncair comments about players rights and “inmates running the asylum”: hold them accountable in the CBA.

  36. Erin only thinks about Erin. What a “piss poor” attitude. If there was no hard cap or any salary controls just how does he think a small market team like the Packers would compete againt the New Yorks, Phillys and Dallases of the world to get players?

    Stick to losing football and collarbone rehab Erin, nobody cares what you think.

  37. Pay the players. The structure in the NBA works, and the physical punishment/lasting effects of playing football are far worse than any other sport besides maybe boxing. Charge the fans more if you have to. If you can’t afford to go to the games, watch it at home.

  38. chiefsfolife says:

    August 8, 2018 at 9:10 am

    I’m tired of hearing this guy squawk. Just shut up already!
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    Jarvis Landry says, Hold my Beer!

  39. Yeah sure. The big market teams then would attract all the big name players. Think New York Yankees. Then of course ticket prices go up up up. No thanks.

  40. Take away the cap and one of the very first teams to become an also ran would be the one he is on. You’d have half a dozen teams that could outspend the rest of the league put together. It’s not the hard cap players should be begrudging but the very soft floor. The NFLPA should be negotiating towards a floor within $10m of the cap annually and any team below that floor should have to pay the difference out in player bonuses at the end of the league year. That would improve competitive balance rather than destroy it.

  41. Does he not watch the NBA? 2 teams in each conference are damn near locks for the conference championship. With a grand total of 6 teams being competitive in the league.
    The hard cap should be applied to all sports.
    I’m with him on the franchise tag though. Get rid of it in the next CBA. Teams have a lot of leverage and players should fight for their $ and medicinal rights.

  42. I’m kind of surprised about all the hate for that idea. It would certainly allow players to make more money and allow teams that willing to pay more be more competitive, as opposed to teams like the Jets and Browns blowing cash without any intent on winning. The difference from the NBA is that a single player can make the difference. You only have to dish out the cash for 5 guys. In the NFL, one player doesn’t make or break a team, with QB possibly being the lone exception. I wanna see it, let’s see Brady and Rodgers go against an 80 million dollar defensive line.

  43. If this ever happened green bay would never ever ever win or even be a playoff team ever again.each year we would watch the cowboys,giants,patriots n yes even the jets and washington and texans battle the playoffs every year.and if a bottom feeder team did draft a great player that player would just end up on the pats or dallas as soon as the rookie contract was up

  44. I think the salary cap should be cut in half.

    Then the NFL could reduce parking prices, tickets prices. concession prices etc.

    How about that Erin? Something for the fans.

  45. From statisa.com

    The statistic depicts the average length of a player’s career in the National Football League, considering different aspects influencing the length of a playing career. According to the NFL Players Association the average career length is about 3.3 years. The NFL claims that the average career is about 6 years (for players who make a club’s opening day roster in their rookie season).

    So, the union says 3.3 years.

    Remember that rookies. If you get a chance to vote on this, the vase majority of you will never be able to benefit from this. This favors longevity and stardom.

    The veterans and super stars know what’s in it for them. They will hose the rookies in a split second over this if given a chance.

    You have to know what’s in it for you. If you have 3.3 years in or less, you want higher minimums that are guaranteed. Chances are that is all you will ever see.

    Your teammates are your business associates. You may become friends with them, but they are your business associates.

    A rising tide lifts all boats. Fight for a higher cap.

  46. “it’s now costing me over $800 to take my family to a game”.

    Quit going if you can’t afford it. No one has the right to attend a NFL game. Quit going, or stop whining about it.

  47. Many of these people are jealous of the players. It’s not their fault these men were blessed with better genetics and put in thousands of hours to work on a rare skill only hundreds of people are chosen to display for the world. They should be compensated for their gifts accordingly and billionaire owners should understand that. It takes a lot of work to play professional football, just like it takes a lot of work to build a multi-billion empire.

  48. the salary cap structure is what transformed the league into the success that it is today—-if the goal is to make the pay more equitable then the minimum nfl salary could be increased while maintaining the hard cap based on revenues as it is currently set up–this would shift dollars from high paid players to low and middle salaried players (hopefully!)

  49. The NBA is extremely fun to watch. Its always had parity, but if you’re actually into the game, you’ll enjoy the amount of great individual players who represent each team.

  50. NBA viewership up over 40%. The NBA dominates social media. The NBA offseason dominates weeks of summer sports coverage.

    Yeah, those super teams and tankers are really hurting the NBA.

  51. The problem with signing players early when they’re “cheap”, is that as soon as they have a big year the agent, the player, and PFT all start complaining because players who are worse are making more money.

  52. Rogers talks alot for a guy who’s won as many Super Bowls as Trent Dilfer and Mark Rypien.
    I think he needs to shut up and just go play football and concentrate on his next contract.

  53. The diva gets more annoying by the day. Go full time to the NBA, nobody outside of Green Bay would even know you were gone.

  54. You people do realize that um….let me see if I can say this slowly enough….you watch the players right? So when a player advocates for better pay, better treatment, etc…that’s bad…why? Because you wouldn’t do the exact same thing? Or is it just because you don’t like AR?

    He’s asking for exactly what every one of you would ask for – the max benefit for you and your family. That these guys make much more than all of us? Who cares? It’s still maximizing your current worth to prep for your future worth.

    OMG I think I just agreed with Florio 🙂

  55. Two worst professional sports – ie those where the fans in certain cities never have a chance of winning a title due to the salary structure. NBA – no salary cap – player collusion ie all the good players migrating to one team – MLB – no salary cap – players getting humongous salaries – and stars all moving to one owner who has the biggest wallet.

    Two best pro sports – NFL and NHL – salary caps – equal chance of winning if good management – NHL has a problem with salary cap floor and the NFL has a problem – called Cleveland

  56. terripet says:
    August 8, 2018 at 9:07 am
    Rodgers worry about staying healthy

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    Yeah….maybe he should use Andrew Luck as his model

  57. Very intelligent perspective from a very talented and astute person.

    What’s the issue?

  58. How about the NFL lower the salary cap for each team to $53M per year and all players earn $1M per season. The owners then take the money they saved and donate it to “social causes” defined by the players. This will raise the “awareness” of issues quite a bit more than kneeling.

    What do you say L’il Aaron….are you in?

  59. And he unleashed this tirade the same day he threw his young receivers under the bus–all of whom are making comparative pennies on their rookie deals. His ideas would work great–for himself and other superstars. But the average player wouldn’t see much gain at all from these ideas. If anything, they might see pay cuts. Because if you’re paying $50 million (or whatever) a season to Aaron Rodgers there isn’t going to be much leftover for the kickoff team guys.

  60. Wait… according to a bunch of the geniuses on here, the NFL is dying! And ratings are down! And they should have listened to Mark Cuban! And the sky is falling! THE SKY IS FALLING!

    Now, according to these same geniuses, “The NFL is great and all is well and the NBA is stupid?”

    Brilliant!

  61. I honestly don’t care for Aaron Rodgers’ various views on the NFL’s collectively bargained for franchise tags and salary caps.

    What I do care about is that he is mentally and physically prepared to lead this team to it’s possible 14th NFL Championship.
    Of that, I’m sure he will be, much to the consternation and overall fear emanating from the Barney fans.

  62. The world according to arrogant Aaron. It’s not even week 1 yet & we are all exhausted from all his proclamations. Dating Danica Patrick must be wearing on him.

  63. Packers fans should be glad that Aaron is just a qb and not an owner of the NFL franchise, because those are terrible ideas. The soft cap has played a part in ruining the quality of NBA competition.

  64. “As soon as he owns a team he can suggest that. Loud mouth”

    ===============

    He does. Aaron Rodgers is part owner of the Milwaukee Bucks. So this is why he was asked about this. Asked and answered.

    Haters gonna hate. No matter what Aaron is asked about…All the jealous crying haters whine about it. Facts.

    Aaron will be drinking Grape Crush after the game Sept 16th. See you then haters. Don’t cry. You are embarrassing yourselves.

  65. terripet says:
    August 8, 2018 at 9:07 am
    Rodgers worry about staying healthy

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    So when you arent trolling Patriots articles you troll Packers articles huh?

  66. youngnoizecom says:
    August 8, 2018 at 9:59 am
    Many of these people are jealous of the players. It’s not their fault these men were blessed with better genetics and put in thousands of hours to work on a rare skill only hundreds of people are chosen to display for the world. They should be compensated for their gifts accordingly and billionaire owners should understand that. It takes a lot of work to play professional football, just like it takes a lot of work to build a multi-billion empire.

    Glad to see you’ve come around to the Trump Method.

  67. Using a soft cap, NO. Eliminating franchise tag, SURE. Or reduce to 1 year.

    The cap allows all teams to compete for players equally. It’s brilliant and it works to keep the league competitive. Without it you’d have the problem the NBA has, 4 good teams and everyone else.

    There are teams in the NFL which have not been good, but its their own mismanagement. A Team like Dallas without a cap would gobble everyone up and gladly pay a luxury tax. A team like Green Bay would NOT!

    Never remove the cap, it’s one of the reasons the playoff teams change year to year and it’s a formula that works. No need to change it because one guys team can’t figure out how to pay him.

  68. cardinealsfan20 says:
    August 8, 2018 at 10:01 am
    NBA viewership up over 40%. The NBA dominates social media. The NBA offseason dominates weeks of summer sports coverage.

    All that alleged domination has led to the NBA having only two games among the Top 50 most watched sports broadcasts in 2017. The NFL had 40 games on that list. Regular season NFL games are watched by more people than the NBA finals.

  69. I agree dcnupe3. The richest teams would dominate every year. We would have the Yankees and Red Sox of the NFL!

  70. Some seem to think you have to look at everything from a player’s perspective and if you don’t you’ve disqualified your argument. That’s not very logical.

  71. horrible idea. results in haves and have nots. nfl appeal is that it’s really the only team sport with a fair fight. rogers needs to work on his game and leave the stupid ideas up to the league office. they have plenty enough.

  72. 24601jvj says:
    August 8, 2018 at 10:36 am

    Yes, get rid of the salary caps. See how a tiny market like GB competes against NY, CHI or LA!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The Packers are one of the highest revenue-generators in the league, and have been for many, many years. The GB “market” extends worldwide. It’s cute how you big city fellers puff up your little chests, though, I’ll give you that.

  73. Does Rodgers understand how stupid he sounds? He says it would be cheaper in the long run because you can sign guys earlier. Didn’t the Packers do that with him and know everyone’s been talking about him needing a new contract since he’s had like 4 years left on his deal. If that’s truly how you feel Aaron, then stop complaining about needing a new contact.

  74. Never been an issue for him till HIS CONTRACT came up….
    Hmmmmm……now he’s just full of STUPID IDEAS to get more money……..what a CHUMP!!!

  75. I’m not a cap-ologist by any stretch, but one thing I do know: the NBA SUCKSSSSS right now. 90% of us probably correctly guessed the Finals participants and champion in last October. I’m a Celtics fan, I’m one of the lucky ones, but if you don’t live in one of four or five cities, there’s absolutely no reason to get excited for the NBA season. It already seems like the NFL is putting out a somehow more mediocre product while simultaneously bringing in more incredible athletes. These guys playing today are FREAKS compared to 15-20+ years ago, for the most part. But I think less practice time is affecting the product on the field, it just looks so sloppy sometimes. Obviously it’s been very easy to be a Pats fan in recent memory, with all the winning, but beyond that, I enjoy watching the Pats because they’re one of a small handful of teams that go out there and execute cleanly. So all this said, the game quality is already in a decline because of sloppier play, do we really need to set the NFL up to be even more top-heavy than it already is?

  76. In other words, Aaron Rodgers wants even more of the NFL’s revenue to go to the players, and it’s as simple as that. Fair enough, but it’s REALLY strange for him to make so much noise about this. He seems to take his salaries very seriously, even though playing a game has made him filthy rich. It’d be one thing if he were fighting for lower-tier teammates and players, but his past actions point to this being all about Rodgers wanting to get paid rich+++ money instead of “just” rich+ or rich++ money. Ugh.

  77. problem with the NBA soft cap, is the only thing interesting next year in the NBA is the battle for second place.

    Go Dubs!!! Go Raiders!!!

  78. Hey Aaron what you may not realize is that the team you play for now probably would not be able to keep up with the deep pockets owners in the NFL. As a Packers fan I know that they do very well financially but let’s be honest there is no way they could keep up with owners like Jerry Jones.

    And honestly with the way the NBA is now with one team that will always win the title and couple of others who marginal chances why would the NFL do that? As others have said part of what makes the NFL great is parity not super teams.

  79. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    August 8, 2018 at 10:48 am
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    The Packers are one of the highest revenue-generators in the league, and have been for many, many years. The GB “market” extends worldwide. It’s cute how you big city fellers puff up your little chests, though, I’ll give you that.
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    That’s just not true. GB has be benefited from faux stock sale, something no other team in the NFL is allowed to do. Also, if GB was so successful, why dont they opt out of merchandise revenue sharing like Dallas does? Because they aren’t that big.

  80. freefromwhatyouare says:

    Aaron will be drinking Grape Crush after the game Sept 16th. See you then haters. Don’t cry. You are embarrassing yourselves.
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    Yet another Gumby fan predicting a week#2 win of their super bowl.

    Personally, I think its going to be very tough for the Vikings to win 10 games this year. But these Gumby fans are setting themselves up for bad things with all these pre season superbowls and wins against the Vikings in week2.

  81. Here’s hoping he spends all season worrying about his “piss poor” contract and less about playing.

  82. In Rodgers scenario where you extend the guy with a yr left on his deal and you maybe get him cheaper there’s 1 huge problem and that’s holdouts. Players are already holding out because they feel they deserve more so unless there’s a way to stop that without fully guaranteed contracts it’s a flawed idea for the nfl.

  83. Getting rid of the cap is a terrible idea. Why do so many people like the NFL? Because the cap prevents teams from buying talent and offsetting the talent of the League. As a result we see teams rise and fall year after year. If you take the cap away rich markets can hog all the talent and create power houses? Why would we want the NFL to have the ability to create a Golden State Warriors type team?

    I think getting rid of the tag is fine thou. If players put in their time on their rookie contract, they should absolutely have the right to hit free agency.

  84. Bad idea……let’s see, who will win the NBA championship? That would be Golden State. Why play the season. If the NFL copied the NBA it would be the same, small market teams like GB would never compete again. I thought QBs are smart

  85. The Almighty Cabbage says:

    August 8, 2018 at 10:48 am

    24601jvj says:
    August 8, 2018 at 10:36 am

    Yes, get rid of the salary caps. See how a tiny market like GB competes against NY, CHI or LA!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The Packers are one of the highest revenue-generators in the league, and have been for many, many years. The GB “market” extends worldwide. It’s cute how you big city fellers puff up your little chests, though, I’ll give you that.

    ———————————

    I agree that the Packers have a big fan market. There are fans everywhere. But as far as Market as in, how much money the owners have, the Packers aren’t that high. Dallas and NY probably have more money to buy all the talent if no cap exists.

  86. Hey Aaron, assuming you are being truthful…and that you truly understand the business side of this…to me it seems like you have never liked GB. You have to realize that without a cap a small market team like the one you play for would have had a hard time keeping you on the roster.

  87. For a guy who is basically .500 in the playoffs, thinks he knows all. Even the Mannings have been to five times more SBs than this guy.

  88. That’s just not true. GB has be benefited from faux stock sale, something no other team in the NFL is allowed to do. Also, if GB was so successful, why dont they opt out of merchandise revenue sharing like Dallas does? Because they aren’t that big.
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    They’ve dumped hundreds of $millions into the Stadium District since the turn of the century.

  89. For a guy who is basically .500 in the playoffs, thinks he knows all. Even the Mannings have been to five times more SBs than this guy.
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    He’s 10-7

    Rodgers teams have won a Playoff game 4 of the last 5 post-seasons in which they have qualified.

  90. aarons444 says:
    August 8, 2018 at 12:56 pm
    For a guy who is basically .500 in the playoffs, thinks he knows all. Even the Mannings have been to five times more SBs than this guy.
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    He’s 10-7

    Rodgers teams have won a Playoff game 4 of the last 5 post-seasons in which they have qualified.
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    Take out the Cinderella run in 2010, he is 6-7

  91. This just in…player supports eliminating collectively bargained rules that don’t favor him and replacing them with ones that do. News you can use.

  92. Take out the Cinderella run in 2010, he is 6-7
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    He’s undefeated years he had great a defense.. so I guess he’d be 10-0 in Super Bowls??

  93. It was reported that the NFL had a earning of approx 14 Billion in 2017. Each NFL team was allotted 454.9 million & the Salary Cap for players is 177.2 mil in 2018. The difference is 277.7 millions dollars (this is what Rodgers/Bell is saying is unfair)… The salary cap should be higher considering the success of the league. It’s currently less then 40 percent right now and they are taking ALL of the risk. Owners ARE the greedy ones. It’s easy to be frustrated with Rodgers as he is a multi millionaire and it’s hard for normal fans to fathom being a millionaire, but compared to the owners… he is paid pennies.

  94. The NFL had uncapped year recently and two shady owners tried to move all guarantees and bonus money into the uncapped year so they would benefit with low cap numbers for years to come.

    Do we not think those same shady owners would try to buy super teams if there was a soft cap? This would literally ruin the NFL.

  95. packfanaj12 says:
    August 8, 2018 at 1:32 pm
    It was reported that the NFL had a earning of approx 14 Billion in 2017. Each NFL team was allotted 454.9 million & the Salary Cap for players is 177.2 mil in 2018. The difference is 277.7 millions dollars (this is what Rodgers/Bell is saying is unfair)… The salary cap should be higher considering the success of the league. It’s currently less then 40 percent right now and they are taking ALL of the risk.

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    How are the players taking “all the risk”? They get paid whether the team / NFL continues to make a profit or not. I would say there is zero risk there. Now if you are talking about a “physical” risk, then that is fair….but that is also why these guys earn millions of dollars to play a game. It is already factored into the equation.

  96. The Packers are one of the highest revenue-generators in the league, and have been for many, many years. The GB “market” extends worldwide. It’s cute how you big city fellers puff up your little chests, though, I’ll give you that.

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    The Packers don’t have a billionaire owner.

    The team has to make money from the the operation of the team or it will fold.

    Jerry Jones can just throw another $500 million into the team any time he wants.

    Can the Packers force a $500 mil capital call on their thousands of “stockholders”?

    The GB Packers would be gone within 5 years if Aaron got his way.

  97. aarons444 says:
    August 8, 2018 at 1:08 pm
    Take out the Cinderella run in 2010, he is 6-7
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    He’s undefeated years he had great a defense.. so I guess he’d be 10-0 in Super Bowls??

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    He has one SB win…..just like Trent Dilfer. Just like Doug Williams. And one less than Eli.

  98. What Rodgers doesn’t realize is the only reason teams like the Packers can compete in the NFL is because of the hard cap.
    I’m a Packers fan and have been for over 55 years, and my advice to Rodgers is to take less money so he doesn’t strap his GM with owing him so much that he can’t afford to keep good players around him.
    I mean, we all know these guys (owners included) only care about money. But when is enough enough??????

  99. whatjusthapped says:

    August 8, 2018 at 10:32 am

    Parity is the desired goal of having a salary cap. You can’t have one with the other.
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    I totally agree with this.
    But clearly Aaron doesn’t want parity.

    Aaron wants M-O-N-E-Y !!!!!!!!

  100. Rodgers STILL hasn’t said anything specific and substantive regarding his contract, and the Packers STILL want to compensate him for what he is worth.

    How many times do you need to read it?

  101. bkinacti0n Says:
    “Do we not think those same shady owners would try to buy super teams if there was a soft cap? This would literally ruin the NFL.”
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    It would only ruin teams that try to build super teams. How many of the Washington Redskins “super teams” worked?

    The Franchise tag should definitely be done away with, and 5th year options. Like Khaiil Mack, a perennial 1st team all pro is is stuck with the Raiders year to year because they don’t want to negotiate a new contract. He should be able to go wherever he wants and to monetarily take advantage of every year that he has of the short career of an NFL player.

  102. I want multiple millions!
    I want MORE millions than him!
    I want money, even if I cannot perform!
    I want long-term guarantees!
    I want to break long-term guarantees when it suits me!

    Its either guarantees & less money. Or, roll with risk & get more money.

  103. The hard cap is what makes the NFL the most competitive league. Don’t forget, the NFL also has a hard floor, meaning there is a minimum cap as well so there can’t be deadbeat teams that pay nobody. You see that in baseball all the time.

    The NFL’s max and minimum caps put all teams on even footing. If your NFL team stinks, it’s because of bad draft picks and free agent decisions, not because of money. That’s how it should be.

    Baseball has small matket teams that are like a farm system for the big market teams.

    NBA has players running the league now. Players get together and decide which team they want to play for and win a championship. Their season is now pointless.

    Rogers should be against a soft cap. Soft cap means his Bucks will never compete, and if the NFl had a soft cap, Green Bay would be nothing but a farm team for the Cowboys, Bears, Giants, and LA teams.

  104. I have always thought Rodgers is the third best GB QB in history behind Starr and Favre, every time he pops off I like him less. Soon I’ll be thinking Scott Hunter was better.

  105. I wouldn’t mind the NFL experimenting with softer cap rules, such as the NBA’s “Bird Rights” policy. NBA teams can exceed the cap in order to resign a player with Bird Rights (players earn Bird Rights by playing 3+ years with team). However, once over the cap, teams can only sign FA’s to veteran minimum deals or using mid-level exception. Obviously it would need tweaking to work in NFL, but it could be good for the league. Win-win for both teams and players.

  106. amazing. I guess he forgot that he plays in the smallest market in the NFL and has therefore eliminated himself from playoff contention. When there was no cap in the NFL in the 80’s, it was always the Bears, 49ers, Redskins and Giants who contended. These are all large market teams. The salary cap crates parity.

  107. Major League Baseball has AAAA teams masquerading as professional major league teams. And they are all from the smaller markets. Nobody wants to watch NY, Boston & LA teams play for championships in every sport.It is part of the reason MLB has declined so much.The same 6 MLB teams have a chance to win most years.
    I have read here how popular the NBA is. But the NBA All Star game had a drop in viewership this year so I question that take.Plus more than half the league is garbage teams that are unwatchable.

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