Kenny Stills: If NFL wants us to stand, stop blackballing Kaepernick and Reid

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Kenny Stills kneeled during the national anthem before Thursday night’s preseason game, and he said afterward that if the NFL wants the players to stop kneeling, it should bring back the players who began the movement.

Colin Kaepernick was the first player to kneel during the anthem, and his former 49ers teammate Eric Reid was the first player to join him. Kaepernick and Reid now remain unsigned and out of the NFL. Stills said if Kaepernick and Reid were signed, it would go a long way toward engendering some good will between the players, who are adamant that they have the right to kneel, and the owners, who want every player to stand.

“It would take a lot, but I think a good first step for us as a league would be acknowledging what they’re doing to Colin Kaepernick and Eric Reid. You can’t say as a league that you support the players and the protest and then blackball the players that initially started the protest,” Stills said.

Realistically, it’s hard to see how that compromise could come about. The NFL isn’t going to tell the NFL Players Association, “We’ll stop blackballing Kaepernick and Reid if you’ll all agree to stop kneeling,” because that would require the NFL to admit it’s blackballing Kaepernick and Reid.

But if the owners want to convince the players that their concerns are being heard, one owner agreeing to offer contracts to Kaepernick and Reid would be an action that would speak louder than all the owners’ words.

172 responses to “Kenny Stills: If NFL wants us to stand, stop blackballing Kaepernick and Reid

  1. CK and ER are not being blackballed.

    CK just isn’t worth what he wants in salary.

    ER will get signed before the season starts.

  2. What a stupid thing to say. Reid might have a job if he could have gotten to Tennessee–something others were able to do. Kapernick was awful and these protesters always fail to mention the pig socks and Fidel Castro shirt.

    Besides, if they got jobs tomorrow they’d find another reason to kneel/protest every week from here until the end of time. Stills just made himself look ridiculous by making that statement. I thought it was about inequality? Do they even know for sure.

  3. Kenny Vaccaro JUST signed with Tennesee after an injury to a starter. Vaccaro rated higher than Reid by a Mile. Maybe if these were good players, we could have a legitimate discussion, but you’re talking a washed up QB and a 1st round bust at safety. Why isn’t Peterson on a team? How about Dez, you’re telling me he’s not being blackballed and is only getting offers from the Browns? These guys are freaking idiots.

  4. On a side note the NY FOOTBALL GIANTS should sign Eric Reid to put to rest this blackballin !

  5. or stop watching, Owners lose money, NFL loses money, players get paid less, then lets see what happens

  6. no one is blackballing. they are just not good enough to play. Stills has no idea what this movement was even about. Just because you bring back kap doesn’t mean everything is good to go.

  7. How many different causes do they have? You stand out of respect for this country and all that have sacrificed everything so you can play football. Damn sick of all these primadonnas!!

  8. So the protest is now about two players not signed/playing and not the social injustice it supposedly was about to begin with.

  9. It seems like different players are protesting different things—it is kind of hard to relate to a message that is unclear and that has no specific endpoint.

  10. Regardless of their stance, they drove away paying customers. They should be fired. Actions meet consequences.

  11. Gotcha now it’s about blackballing. It’s really become about people telling you it’s not the right way to go about protesting during the anthem but you geniuses will show us that you’re gonna do it. Nobody is gonna tell you what to do not the fans and especially not that damn trump. A couple of players get cut from a team and all these social hero’s would fold like a lawn chair.

  12. Nobody is blackballing these guys. They simply didn’t make the most of their opportunity when they were on a team.

    Every year there are 250-ish kids coming out of college looking for jobs in the NFL. That means a certain percentage of veteran players will need to step aside to make room for these kids on the roster.

    If these two knuckleheads would have focused more on their craft and less on pouting about things, they may still be employed.

  13. Black Supremacists never said a peep when Tebow was blackballed for his proselytizing Biblical Christianity. The Bible repudiates the Cultural Marxism the NFL has been promoting lately!

  14. So now the reason for the “protest” has changed to a couple players not having jobs. How about the player guarantee no media poo storm if/when Kapernick gets signed? That’s not a guarantee they can make. Are they willing to accept that the team can cut him due to excess media crap?

  15. I going to make a prediction.

    The teams that have player who keep kneeling and publicly mouthing off aren’t going to make the playoffs.

    All because of the effects of the disruption on their teams.

  16. Wait. I thought you were protesting because of social injustices? Now, it’s because Kaep couldn’t beat out Gabbert and Reid gets torched on the regular. Remember, BOTH guys had an opportunity to sign and chose not to. Kaep opted out and Reid didn’t wanna sign a one year deal with the Niners. But, I’m glad to know that the real reason you’re protesting is because youre upset your buddies can’t play.

  17. What a fool. He will be cut and he will scream “racism” in 2019.

    But him being a distraction to Coach Gase’s team will the true reason why.

    As Belichick said 4 years ago to a friend, “I am at a point in my career where I only want to work with people that I truly want to coach.”

  18. Somebody should probably tell Malcom Jenkins the protests are no longer about the wrong people in prison.

    Or was it police shooting people?

    Or Colin Kaepernick?

    Or Eric Reid?

    The only thing that should be raised is a hand to ask what the heck these players are protesting.

  19. At least a player has come out now and said that the kneeling message is no longer about the original meaning and now means whatever they need it to mean at that moment.

  20. Nobody is being blackballed. Kaep just flat out sucks (For Christ sake, he got benched for Blaine Gabbert of all people) and Eric Reid is average at best but has had several concussions and is not being as good as some people make it him out to be. Plus Reid would have probably been on a team by now if he had overvalued himself and jumped the gun on the whole collusion outcry when the safety market wasn’t that stellar

    Someone needs to tell Stills and anyone else who think they are being blackball that teams aren’t required to get someone just because you want them to. Kaep and Reid aren’t being signed due to being blackballed. They aren’t signed cause they suck, especially in Kaep’s case

  21. Kenny Stills had better pay attention to what’s going on with Kaep and Reid. He might be next. Let’s not act like he’s such a good receiver that his career couldn’t come to an abrupt end as well.

  22. lets get something clear play boy. kaepernick not getting black balled no more. he just cant compete after being out the game this long. eric reid is being black balled you cant tell me a a true blue Lsu dawg cant get a job!?!

  23. Kaepernick is just way too toxic at this point for any team to sign. There isn’t much good that can come from signing him. It’s not worth it. But of course they still get blasted for not signing him. It’s a no-win situation. Eric Reid might still sign somewhere.

  24. If they never get back into the league, does this mean this thing is going to on forever ? Good grief why can’t you all just play football?!

  25. As of today, 114 African Americans were killed by police in 2018 in ALL of the U.S.. 414 were killed (not by the police) in Chicago during the same time frame.

    If these players really want a cause and really care about black lives, focus on the latter and not the former.

    Unfortunately, Randy Moss can find a tie big enough for 414 names.

  26. Why should a team be blackmailed into signing these two. If they are coerced into signing one and/or both isn’t that the same as the supposed blackballing/??

  27. Oh, so now they’re protesting the US national anthem because two players aren’t signed.

    Ask Kaepernick why he said nothing when his girlfriend sent a racist tweet directed at Ray Lewis and Steve Bisciotti when the Ravens were about to sign him.

  28. Pats fan, and when Brady retires so will I. The rest of the NFL bores me with their play and news.

  29. Liberalsruineverything says:
    August 10, 2018 at 4:13 pm
    What does a backup 2 down safety a Vegan Communist that doesn’t like football anymore have to do with it?
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    You’re really bad at this. Kick rocks troll.

  30. Well said, Kenny Stills. They are fighting for all the injustices done around the world to black people and Kap & Eric Reid. Racism is real and the comments above small minded to realize it.

  31. Kenny Stills confirms that “they take a knee” to blackmail. I love the NFL but Fidell GoodelL & Kenny Stills Cabal’s actions/lack there of are repulsive & repugnant. I really do hope now that NFL attendance & viewers fall off a cliff so this is in the rear view mirror shortly.

  32. if ER had made it to the actual interview he might have been signed. they went to vaccaro after Reid had problems getting there

  33. So now we’re kneeling to show solidarity with CK and ER. Got it!
    I thought it was about racial inequities or police brutality or TO not getting into the Hall on the 1st try.

  34. Kaep was a good player just not good enough for any team to deal with the bad PR he brings. Right now Stills is playing at a high level but the moment his play drops off or gets hurt he might find himself in the same position as CK if he keeps this up.

  35. Finally a Protest I can get behind…….

    IF NFL Players want to Protest for Kaep and Reid…..I am all for it and will support them 100%……even during the Anthem…..

    Because it is relevant to the game and place…..

  36. crappygovernment says:
    August 10, 2018 at 4:15 pm

    Black Supremacists never said a peep when Tebow was blackballed for his proselytizing Biblical Christianity. The Bible repudiates the Cultural Marxism the NFL has been promoting lately!
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    Tebow is out of the NFL because he isn’t a competent NFL quarterback. Even he realized it, and moved on, so it’s time for the rest of you bozos to follow suit.

  37. Stills has a good point. It’s very un-American for the NFL owners to blackball guys who spoke out against unconstitutional behavior from police officers. It’s seems hypocritical to stand on an NFL field and honor the flag, while NFL owners are spitting on the flag.

  38. nflfan90 says:
    August 10, 2018 at 4:43 pm

    Well said, Kenny Stills. They are fighting for all the injustices done around the world to black people and Kap & Eric Reid. Racism is real and the comments above small minded to realize it.
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    What effect does kneeling during the singing of the national anthem have on racial injustice? What injustices have Kaepernick or Reid suffered?

  39. Kaepernick is terrible and a cancer. He loves Castro, wears pig socks and wants respect. Go to Cuba and start a football league of your own. Tim Tebow kneels in the end zone and blessed himself gets flack over it. Kaepernick won’t ever play again because the NFL and owners of teams won’t allow him to get on his soap box and spew his BS!!!

  40. Ahhhh, the ignorance in this one is strong! The amount of ridiculous assumptions Stills make in stating these players are blackballed are astounding. There isn’t a GM alive that wouldn’t sign a player if he thought that player was the answer for his team. When will the reality that there is a lack of talent and a lot of baggage with Kaep that GMs/teams don’t want.

  41. variant703 says:
    August 10, 2018 at 4:42 pm
    Liberalsruineverything says:
    August 10, 2018 at 4:13 pm
    What does a backup 2 down safety a Vegan Communist that doesn’t like football anymore have to do with it?
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    You’re really bad at this. Kick rocks troll.
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    Bad at triggering snowflakes with facts? I don’t mean to toot my own horn but I like to think I’m pretty good at that.

  42. If Reid wanted to be on a team, he would have found a way to Nashville last week. Cant sign a player who doesnt show up to the workout

  43. Stills said if Kaepernick and Reid were signed, it would go a long way toward engendering some good will between the players, who are adamant that they have the right to kneel,
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    Be right back, I have to go tell my employer I have the right to nap at work.

  44. I have read the same crap over and over again under each of these articles. I’m bored and don’t care anymore. From here on out it’s best to just let the same people go to battle in an internet war that never wins…

  45. Stills is delusional. Owners have decided that Kaepernick isn’t worth the economic risk to their franchise, which is perfectly within their right. Reid may have put himself in the same boat. Actions have consequences.

  46. nflfan90 says:
    August 10, 2018 at 4:43 pm
    Well said, Kenny Stills. They are fighting for all the injustices done around the world to black people and Kap & Eric Reid. Racism is real and the comments above small minded to realize it.
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    Then why don’t ANY of them do their kneeeling thing ANYWHERE except when they are being paid by someone else while insulated from the general public? Maybe at their kid’s high school game or the front row of an NBA game? Also, what else have the majority of the kneelers done except pose for the camera and get paid to do so? The answer is that they are all posers for attention, especially considering now they don’t even know why they are doing it at all.

  47. stoptrippn says:
    August 10, 2018 at 5:19 pm
    This president has ruined the game.
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    The fact that Goodell had no foresight in this matter and has been totally reactive has a lot more to do with this issue than the President.

  48. elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
    August 10, 2018 at 4:02 pm

    Give up paychecks if your so bad !

    No because you have no athletic talent, now going back to selling Toyota’s or whatever it is you do.

  49. If CK wants to play prove it, he had a contract he walked from was offered a fair wage for his skills and refused to signed because he thought he would get more money, over estimated his value and lost.

    Thought this was a protest against people of color being targeted by the police.

  50. Out of respect for our country…. stand. Nobody is forcing you to live here. Many have died for your right to move away. The media should also stick to the X’s and O’s and quit stoking the fire.

  51. or stop watching, Owners lose money, NFL loses money, players get paid less, then lets see what happens

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    Cries of racism

  52. I love pro football, but I’m really sick of this crap. Roger GODell has let it get completely out of control…..I. used to respect Kenny Stills for his football skills but now I hope that they just cut him and blackball him too. This isn’t football anymore, it’s a reality show.

  53. Why are there so many scared white guys who feel threatened by a peaceful protest? You still get to guzzle bear, eat pulled pork and tailgate, you can take your hat off and sing the anthem, you still get to high 5 strangers on your way out of the stadium. All the military people I know understand this has nothing to do with the military and support the protest. That’s Trump agenda and is a bunch of hog wash smart people don’t fall for you.

  54. Memo to Kenny–go ahead and protest, I do not care. Here’s the thing though–you are protesting on behalf of a guy (Kaepernick) who INSULTED YOUR FANS (that is, Dolphins fans) in 2016 when the Niners played in Miami by WEARING A CASTRO T-SHIRT IN A CITY WITH A LARGE CUBAN-AMERICAN POPULATION WHO FLED CASTRO! Now that, Mr. Stills, is insulting Dolphins fans, many of whom are Cuban-American! Idiot!

  55. As a team one of the Fins deepest strength is at receiver. If Ross wanted to get rid of Stills in a trade now is the time to do it. Green Bay is one team I can think of that needs receiver help.

  56. Why is this even a thing? You have the freedom to buy whatever car you choose, eat at whatever restaurant you choose, live where you choose – seems a bit of freedom there. Forced “patriotism” is the opposite of freedom. Forced patriotism is what they have in North Korea. Stand for dear leader or be executed. That’s the type of life you want? Have at it, personally I prefer to think for myself – not to be told what to think.

    That’s the complete opposite of what America is supposed to be. The whole “land of the free” thing – you know – the verse in the song. There’s nothing in there about being forced to stand. Folks want to stand, fine, they don’t – fine. Whatever. They have the freedom to choose to stand or not to stand. You disagree, fine, we can agree to disagree but trying to force me to abide by your beliefs and your rules is not freedom. It’s the exact opposite.

    However – that’s not even what the protests are about. I have yet to hear a single player disparage the country. It’s about making people aware of police brutality and it’s being done in the most peaceful way possible. Folks are kneeling, you’d rather have rioting in the streets? C’mon man. Stand, don’t stand, whatever.

    Perhaps focusing on the reason would more beneficial than slamming and disparaging people – especially for peaceful protest in the hopes of making society better for everyone – even those of you who seem to believe that your version of “freedom” is to be forced upon those who disagree with you.

    But, again, the point of the protests has absolutely nothing to do with the anthem.

  57. I’m tired of people acting like Eric Reid was some great pro bowl safety. Dude was pro bowl one time 5 years ago in his rookie year! Please stop like he’s being blackballed he just sucks.

  58. I’m not saying these people don’t exist, but in person I have never met somebody who served who told me they support kneeling during the anthem. Now I live in NJ and maybe it’s a geographical thing, but all veterans around here hate when they kneel.

  59. keeppounding23 says:
    August 10, 2018 at 6:16 pm
    I have a better idea. Cut anyone who doesn’t stand…

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    And restore lost cap space

  60. officialgame says:
    August 10, 2018 at 5:54 pm
    Why are there so many scared white guys who feel threatened by a peaceful protest? You still get to guzzle bear, eat pulled pork and tailgate, you can take your hat off and sing the anthem, you still get to high 5 strangers on your way out of the stadium. All the military people I know understand this has nothing to do with the military and support the protest. That’s Trump agenda and is a bunch of hog wash smart people don’t fall for you.

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    Listen, Hillary…. (that was a joke) …. I am a (in no way scared) white guy whose father put a career in the Army and was a Pearl Harbor survivor (Schofield Barracks, 8th Army Artillery). I was in the Army and three of my four brothers were in the military as well.
    So — I know how my dad felt about our Anthem and our flag and I know how he’d feel about what these guys are doing if he were alive today. And I know how my brothers and I feel about it. We hate what they are doing! We don’t hate them, only their poor choice to do this when and where they are doing it.
    For maybe the 300th time since all this crap started — it is not a right of anyone to demonstrate their political beliefs at their place of employment. And that’s what these guys are doing no matter how you lefties try to deflect that point.
    And since you brought up Trump, here’s what I know. I am a life long Democrat who voted for him and I voted for him because I agree with most of what he says and what he is doing. I don’t love him — and yes — he says things that most Presidents only say when the microphones aren’t on. But you know what? I’d rather have a President who says what is on his (or her) mind than the many phony Presidents who only say what they think we all want to hear. Go back and do your homework on Harry Truman — one of my all time favorite Presidents. He didn’t mince words either. He said what he thought and didn’t care who liked it.
    So — here’s another vote for Trump when he runs again unless someone comes along who sounds better to me. Right now, I don’t see that person anywhere.
    And finally — why do these guys paint all cops with a broad brush?? All they are doing is creating an image for young people in this country that cops are all bad. That’s the real sadness, to me. I’d love to compare the percentage of bad cops with the percentage of bad guys who play professional sports if it were possible and see how they stack up. My bet is the cops would come out ahead of them in ranking them from best to worst.

  61. There is no evidence that teams have colluded or agreed not to hire Reid or Kaepernick. The NFL is afraid of this issue and I believe does not know how to make it go away.

  62. We all should take heed and reflect deeply upon these utterances from Kenny Stills. His is, after all a very well known household name. In the Stills household. Stills: If we needed any crap out of you we’d just squeeze your head.

  63. Liberalsruineverything says:
    August 10, 2018 at 5:10 pm
    variant703 says:
    August 10, 2018 at 4:42 pm
    Liberalsruineverything says:
    August 10, 2018 at 4:13 pm
    What does a backup 2 down safety a Vegan Communist that doesn’t like football anymore have to do with it?
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    You’re really bad at this. Kick rocks troll.
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    Bad at triggering snowflakes with facts? I don’t mean to toot my own horn but I like to think I’m pretty good at that.
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    Triggering and snowflakes. You got any more buzz words you people on the right use or search for some new material?

    So since we’rre out here to prove facts:

    Fact 1. Kap was the STARTER for the end of the regular season for the 49ers. Not a backup, like you’re claiming.

    Fact 2. The communism claim I’m assuming you’re taking from the Malcolm X, Fidel Castro Tshirt he wore. If you had done some actual research you would see he was merely highlighting a moment in American history when the government would not address the grievance of one of its citizens and a leader from another country who happened to be here due to business sat down to hear him out. Never once did he claim to be a communist in any form.

    Fact 3. Eric Reid was playing out of his natural position his last year in the NFL which lead to hid decreased production since the team could not properly fill the position.

    Now, which of any of the facts I presented coincide with the opinions you spout. Isn’t there a saying about facts and feeling you on the right like to champion so much? Think it would apply here.

  64. All players are working for their employer when they are on the field or team organized functions. The teams and NFL need to require their players and those associated with the team and/or NFL respect our Country and stand with hand across their heart for our National Anthem. Failure to do so will result in fines, losing a game check, or leading to suspensions with repeated behavior. That is how business works. The Teams and NFL could solve these social justice issues by doing what is right or lose their audience resulting in loss revenues. The NFL is about Football, not politics! The players agreed in writing to conduct themselves with respect and refrain from conduct which is detrimental to the game. The NFL’s operations manual require the players be on the field for the National Anthem, standing at attention facing the flag, and remain from talking or face fines, suspension, and other punishment. The players agreed in writing to conduct themselves with respect and refrain from conduct which is detrimental to the game. There is nothing in either of these contracts which gives players a right to a political or social protest while in uniform at the commencement of a game. If you want to be a social justice jackaasss, do it on your own time and not the time clock. The NFL has forgotten what they and their audience are. It is about Football and not politics or social justice issues.

  65. bhcpaul1989 says:
    August 10, 2018 at 5:15 pm
    Stills said if Kaepernick and Reid were signed, it would go a long way toward engendering some good will between the players, who are adamant that they have the right to kneel,
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    Be right back, I have to go tell my employer I have the right to nap at work.
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    Well that didn’t go as planned. He apparently doesn’t agree with me on my right to nap. Now I’ve got to find a safe place, he got mad.

  66. These guys deserve to be blackballed! Who wants jerks who disrespects the flag of the only country which allows these idiots to get paid outrageous money because they can play a game? One of the great freedoms they are welcome to use, is the freedom to leave this land that “oppresses” them.

  67. A lot of right wing, uneducated rednecks on here who don’t know the Constitution. Go ahead and give up your rights, I’ll keep mine.

  68. So kap isn’t good enough to play and Blake Bortles is? You guys so stupid it’s sad! Kap is better than 90% of the back ups in the league.

  69. If Kaep and Reid ditch SJW logic and regain their sanity, teams will sign them. No one is willing to put up with divisive, distracting, toxic players.

  70. Add a few more reasons onto the ever growing mish mash of reasons why they are kneeling.

    Hey, my netflix was glitchy last night. Better kneel for the anthem to shed light on that.

  71. ocdn says:
    August 10, 2018 at 6:57 pm
    A lot of right wing, uneducated rednecks on here who don’t know the Constitution. Go ahead and give up your rights, I’ll keep mine.

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    No. Liberals are the ones who don’t know the Constitution. THEY are the ones that want people to give up their rights. They hate free speech.

  72. You making demands of your employer Kenny? Shut up and play. What else are you good for?

  73. variant703 says

    Triggering and snowflakes. You got any more buzz words you people on the right use or search for some new material?

    So since we’rre out here to prove facts:

    Fact 1. Kap was the STARTER for the end of the regular season for the 49ers. Not a backup, like you’re claiming.

    Fact 2. The communism claim I’m assuming you’re taking from the Malcolm X, Fidel Castro Tshirt he wore. If you had done some actual research you would see he was merely highlighting a moment in American history when the government would not address the grievance of one of its citizens and a leader from another country who happened to be here due to business sat down to hear him out. Never once did he claim to be a communist in any form.

    Fact 3. Eric Reid was playing out of his natural position his last year in the NFL which lead to hid decreased production since the team could not properly fill the position.

    Now, which of any of the facts I presented coincide with the opinions you spout. Isn’t there a saying about facts and feeling you on the right like to champion so much? Think it would apply here.
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    1) Gabbert sucked as much as Kaepernick

    2) Reed was playing out of position because he couldn’t cover anyone so they tried him at linebacker.

    3) Colon had that Malcom X and Castro shirt on right after Castro died. The shirt said “like minds think alike” Colon has said he agrees with Castro on many things.
    I worked with and older guy from Cuba and I asked about Castro one time. His face changed and I’ll never forget it. He told me about how he had one pair of underwear, one pair of pants and one pair of shoes that were too big. He also told me about how he had friends, people he knew and even a cousin that just disappeared. Nobody knew where they went or if they are alive or dead. Kaepernick talks about oppression, maybe that hypocrite should talk to that Cuban I worked with.

  74. wow, Kenny Stills. Let’s see. Oh yeah, he’s the guy that dropped that wide-open touchdown pass in Week 1 in 2016 when the Dolphins lost to the Seahawks. They really could have won that game if he catches that.

  75. So how would that work? Would the league order a team to sign someone they thought was poison? They aren’t being blackballed, they just aren’t worth the hassle. Keep it up, morons. Drive your ratings down even more.

  76. ocdn says:
    August 10, 2018 at 6:57 pm
    A lot of right wing, uneducated rednecks on here who don’t know the Constitution. Go ahead and give up your rights, I’ll keep mine.
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    You don’t believe that the Constitution gives you your rights do you? If so you didn’t get much out of school. Read the Declaration of Independence again. I am not going to help you out here. FYI – you don’t have first amendment “rights” by the way. Either way, the Constitution deals only with the Federal government, not a private employer.

    Reading is your friend.

  77. It’s not that they aren’t good enough, it is because the league is black balling them? If they were good enough, they’d both be on a roster. Reid will get signed before camp is out. Some teams will lose depth to injury. He probably wont be starting, but he will be with a team if he chooses to play. Kaepernick isn’t good enough to start in the NFL. That gimmick has run its course. He has been offered back up jobs and turned them down. So, no black balling or collusion.

  78. Lets be for real, If Obama was President and he told these protestors not to kneel they would not be kneeling. This protest is of defiance towards our current WHITE President. I no longer watch the NFL and come to PFT for entertainment. Goodell is responsible for allowing these protest to get out of hand which is costing the NFL millions.

  79. Liberalsruineverything says:
    August 10, 2018 at 7:13 pm
    variant703 says

    Triggering and snowflakes. You got any more buzz words you people on the right use or search for some new material?

    So since we’rre out here to prove facts:

    Fact 1. Kap was the STARTER for the end of the regular season for the 49ers. Not a backup, like you’re claiming.

    Fact 2. The communism claim I’m assuming you’re taking from the Malcolm X, Fidel Castro Tshirt he wore. If you had done some actual research you would see he was merely highlighting a moment in American history when the government would not address the grievance of one of its citizens and a leader from another country who happened to be here due to business sat down to hear him out. Never once did he claim to be a communist in any form.

    Fact 3. Eric Reid was playing out of his natural position his last year in the NFL which lead to hid decreased production since the team could not properly fill the position.

    Now, which of any of the facts I presented coincide with the opinions you spout. Isn’t there a saying about facts and feeling you on the right like to champion so much? Think it would apply here.
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    1) Gabbert sucked as much as Kaepernick

    2) Reed was playing out of position because he couldn’t cover anyone so they tried him at linebacker.

    3) Colon had that Malcom X and Castro shirt on right after Castro died. The shirt said “like minds think alike” Colon has said he agrees with Castro on many things.
    I worked with and older guy from Cuba and I asked about Castro one time. His face changed and I’ll never forget it. He told me about how he had one pair of underwear, one pair of pants and one pair of shoes that were too big. He also told me about how he had friends, people he knew and even a cousin that just disappeared. Nobody knew where they went or if they are alive or dead. Kaepernick talks about oppression, maybe that hypocrite should talk to that Cuban I worked with.
    ———–

    You’re still replying with your opinion. Not any facts. Try again.

  80. ocdn says:
    August 10, 2018 at 6:57 pm
    A lot of right wing, uneducated rednecks on here who don’t know the Constitution. Go ahead and give up your rights, I’ll keep mine.

    ——————————————————————————————-

    This is what I love (not!) about liberals. This clown is calling people names who say these NFL players do not have the right to demonstrate their political beliefs on an NFL football field.
    It never ceases to amaze me that the liberal lefties in this country are the most prejudiced people in America. They brand anyone who has a different viewpoint as they do with names such as right wing zealots, religious fanatics, or in this case “uneducated rednecks”.
    Look in the mirror Mr. Liberal and see what is staring back at you. You might not like what you see.
    You say you want to keep your “rights”. Does that include branding other people who disagree with you by calling them names? If you’re a guy, I bet you got your butt beat on the playground a lot when you were a kid and ran home to mommy.

  81. So if the NFL owner don’t agree to your terms, what’s next? Not play? Then you don’t get paid. Go to Vinny Mac’s WWE football league? Face it “the man” will tell you to jump and you’ll have to say how high. Besides what did any of these so called concerned athletes do about the situation in the off season? Oh yeah! They took a vacation!

  82. variant703 says:
    August 10, 2018 at 7:40 pm

    You’re still replying with your opinion. Not any facts. Try again.
    —————————————

    Fact. Kaepernick and Gabbert both suck
    Fact. Reed can’t cover anyone, at all
    Fact. Kaepernick is a Communist and a Vegan and a hypocrite.

    Facts to a Liberal is like throwing salt on a slug.

  83. elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
    August 10, 2018 at 4:02 pm
    Give up paychecks if your so bad !

    Most of these guys have projects and spend time and money in the community. Chris Long gave up ALL his paychecks last year. What were your contributions to society?

  84. What will the reason be next week? It is hard to keep track. Previous reasons:

    Kaepernick loses starting job in preseason after being openly shopped during off-season
    Kaepernick says he “won’t stand for the flag of a country…”
    Cops shooting unarmed black men in the streets
    Racial profiling by police
    Systematic oppression of racial minorities
    It’s about freedom of speech
    Teams should not limit speech and behavior of employees
    Racial minorities are over-represented in prisons
    To make people uncomfortable
    Trump can’t tell us what to do

    And now it is apparently an overt form of extortion to get a couple former players hired. Really, guys?

    Stop it and act right (or smart). Support the causes you believe in without impacting others who have a different opinion. Hold press conferences, rallies and protests where it actually matters…in the districts where the oppression is allegedly happening and in front of the people who are alleged to be doing the oppressing. The NFL is not involved. This is like a Walmart cashier protesting about her homeowner’s association fees every day before she turns on the lane number light and starts processing purchases.

  85. Liberalsruineverything says:
    August 10, 2018 at 8:09 pm
    variant703 says:
    August 10, 2018 at 7:40 pm

    You’re still replying with your opinion. Not any facts. Try again.
    —————————————

    Fact. Kaepernick and Gabbert both suck
    Fact. Reed can’t cover anyone, at all
    Fact. Kaepernick is a Communist and a Vegan and a hypocrite. I’ll give you the vegan. The rest is just more feels from you.

    Facts to a Liberal is like throwing salt on a slug.
    ————
    Fact. Kaepernick and Gabbert both suck —-Again with the opinions
    Fact. Reed can’t cover anyone, at all —more opinion talk
    Fact. Kaepernick is a Communist and a Vegan and a hypocrite. — I’ll give you the vegan. The rest is just more feels from you.

    Facts to a Liberal is like throwing salt on a slug. — You’re better than this. Try again and leave your feels out of it.

  86. “So kap isn’t good enough to play and Blake Bortles is? You guys so stupid it’s sad! Kap is better than 90% of the back ups in the league.”

    Except Kap doesn’t want to be a back up. He wants to start for top 10 money which is why he opted out of his SF contract.

  87. Owners get together and stick together and get rid of them all, see what blackball is on the street

  88. I used to like Stills because unlike the majority he is VERY involved in the community and goes on police ride alongs and gets himself and his money involved in the right places. But each time he makes a statement like this is just makes me begin to dislike him. CK is trash and ER will be signed before week 2. If I was a billionaire owner it would be my decision to sign one of them and as that said billionaire status gives me that right to do as I wish. Become an owner Still, Reid, CK, Bennett or whomever else and you yourself can sign who you want. Until then do as you are hired to do and that is play the game of football NOT social injustice! When the salary cap drops due to lack or revenue these knuckleheads will maybe them realize they are hurting themselves in the long run.

  89. If Reid can’t make a plane for a tryout, do you really think he wants to be hired? I mean it’s not a minimum wage job. Truth is, Kap and Reid are better and more valuable to their cause as martyrs than their current skill set. If they played and stank, that would be the story, not what they’re protesting

  90. So, it’s not about oppression of minorities by the police? It really is about a bunch of children holding their breath until they get what they want (Kaep and Reid jobs)?

    Mr. Stills, you’ve shown your true colors, you’re what we refer to as a sell-out. Thanks, and enjoy NOT getting yourself a new contract when it’s time.

  91. ocdn says:
    August 10, 2018 at 6:57 pm
    A lot of right wing, uneducated rednecks on here who don’t know the Constitution. Go ahead and give up your rights, I’ll keep mine.

    ———————-
    Lol. Who doesnt know the constitution? The irony here is hilarious.

  92. I thought Reid not actually making it to his tryout was amazing. Hard to belive it was an accident.
    I thought Kaepernick’s girlfriend popping off at the Ravens owner when they were looking to sign him was amazing. Almost like it was deliberately torpedoing the whole thing.
    There were also some lower level stuff from Kaepernicks side where it really looked like he was trying to i sure no team actually tried to sign him.
    Is it possible these guys have a lawyer who is advising them to look like they want a team but dont let any team actually decide to make a move because of what that would do to the lawyers cash cow case?

  93. End the anthem bs. Oh, that’s right. Owners are getting paid to have all the military bs. Most folks just scream and yell during it anyway.

  94. They aren’t being blackballed, neither play actually has the desire to play. They’d rather make money by suing the NFL. Their egos are so gigantic they don’t believe the NFL just doesnt think their talents warrant the headache and backlash.

  95. Why do owners need to be extorted into offering contracts to players that are just NOT as good as some people think? Kenny Stills could obviously be considered a “troublemaker” by constantly kneeling during the anthem – yet somehow, he managed to get a contract last year and is still playing… …hmmmm – could it be that those who can actually PLAY football, are the ones that are offered contracts?????

  96. wait until Bryant starts the pity party nonsense
    and starts grouping himself in with kaepernac
    and reid. that will make for one of the more interesting
    browns (in general)

  97. Perhaps someone should explain to Mr. Stills that the supposed “blackballing” of Kaepernick and Reid is because no team wants to deal with the public relations nightmare that would come with signing them. NFL teams are in the market to make money, Kaepernick and Reid would hurt their profit margins significantly if they were to sign anywhere. So it’s not about their beliefs or the kneeling, it’s simply about marketability and profit.

  98. officialgame says:

    All the military people I know understand this has nothing to do with the military and support the protest.
    ####

    “All the military people I know…”

    I bet dollars to donuts there are many veterans you KNOW that don’t believe in the players anthem protests.

    Just because you met one veteran who sided with the players doesn’t mean all the veterans you KNOW hold the same beliefs.

    Go visit an American Legion or VFW and take a poll to get some real insight.

    I’m a 6 year Viet Nam era veteran. I have yet to discuss this subject with any veteran where they sided with the players on this issue. There may be some veterans that I know that might side with the players – I just haven’t discussed this topic with them – and I’m not going to put words in their mouths as you have.

    I’m a firm believer in the 1st amendment and was proud to serve my country. No where in the first amendment does it give anyone the freedom to protest at work without repercussions.

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

    The government isn’t attempting to pass any laws to prevent the protests. The players have no “right” to protest personal issues while in uniform at their place of work.

    If they would do it on them own time – they would get support from many.

    By using the wrong time and place – they are only damaging their cause. Whatever the cause of the day is – it seems to change frequently.

  99. If Stills put the same effort towards his profession as he does to “protesting”, he might actually be able to catch passes!

  100. Trying to get my ”protest” schedule straight for this season…what are the players kneeling for in Week 4 — Shootings in Chicago? Or is that set for Week 15? What about Week 10? Will that be the weekend we really honor the veterans? And has a final decision been made on which week you’re protesting for kids coming up from Mexico and Central America but stuck in ”cages” along the border? I had heard it might be Week 6. And is there a contingency plan in case John Schnatter reclaims his Papa John’s Pizza? What happens if Sears goes out of business?? And the midterm elections! What side are you protesting, or are you gonna wait and see?

  101. Kap sucks, that’s what black balling him. It’s his play. People remember his rookie and 2nd year, after that he declined fast. He only can play in read option offense, doesn’t read defenses, and isn’t accurate when Force to run anything but r/o offense.
    Give it up people, it’s not because he’s black, not because he’s a idiot who sits during the national anthem, it’s BECAUSE HE SUCKS AND CANT PLAY. And last but not least, he still thinks he good and want paid as such. He’s done in the NFL anyways when the Ravens tried to hire him but his gf fan her mouth.

  102. Hey Stills, if you continue these antics, let’s see how the league does with FAR fewer fans. I can live without the NFL, can you?

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