Hue Jackson addresses his awkward moment with Todd Haley

AP

Early in camp, Browns coach Hue Jackson and Browns offensive coordinator Todd Haley had an awkward exchange, which ended up being one of the key moments of the first episode of Hard Knocks. On Sunday, Jackson was asked about the debate regarding giving players days off from practice.

“I am glad that you brought that up,” Jackson said. “[W]hy have we not had any soft tissue injuries? . . . For the last two years, we have not had any soft tissue injuries. I think I said that day it was because our medical staff and myself, we put a plan together to make sure that the guys — we have very good data that says that if a guy is very close, and people do not get that two days from then they are going to pull and there is a good chance that they will pull.

“We have done this now for two years, and we have had really good success. I do not think that Todd meant anything by it. I just think that he meant from his feeling, he has been at different places and everybody has a different way of doing things. It is just how we do it here, and it works for us. The most important part is that we keep our players healthy. If we end up losing somebody, they will not be out here practicing. There was no animosity or anything like that. It was not a back and forth between Todd and myself. Todd gets it, trust me. That has never come up again. I want our guys to ask questions about those things. Once I explain them, then we move forward. That is just the way it works. It is a great thing.”

Here’s what’s not a great thing: The Browns are 1-31 during Jackson’s tenure. So how can he say that going easy on players in order to avoid soft-tissue injuries “works” when he doesn’t know how much better than 1-31 his team possibly would be if players were expected to practice more frequently and intensely, acknowledging that maybe some players would end up with injuries?

That’s the ultimate problem with Jackson’s argument. Nothing he has done in two years has worked. So maybe now is the time to make like George Costanza and do the opposite.

34 responses to “Hue Jackson addresses his awkward moment with Todd Haley

  1. Taking over a disfunctional front office, and a team that want very limited on talent has more to do with a 1-31 start. I’m not accusing Jackson of being the next Bill Belichek though, but talent can get bad coaches wins (See Richie Kotite)

  2. Did Hue Jackson say, “We have done this now for two years, and we have had really good success?”

    Wait, did he really say that and nobody stopped him. That whole room must have looked like deer in headlights.

  3. Hue is wrong. Flat out wrong. In that episode Landry went off on guys dogging it because of minimal injuries. He was shocked by what he saw.

    Big deal you don’t have soft tissue injuries, you also have a weak team. You are 1-31, time to try a different approach.

    Haley was correct–everyone who can suit up should be at the practice. The line coach specifically said hurting guys wouldn’t have to do drills, just be there to learn.

    It’s another reason Jackson just isn’t head coaching material.

  4. Wait, are we asking for more contact in practice now? I thought the last few years has been a media warpath to a softer, kinder NFL?

  5. Palely imitating the Steelers doesn’t make you the Steelers. They were a winning franchise before Todd Haley got there and they’ll be one after he left.

    I’m not a Hue Jackson fan but the Browns haven’t had the talent or depth to compete. You cannot waste 1st round picks like they have and still expect to win.

    If you can’t tell that you have no common sense.

  6. Most of you are trolls and don’t even read the entire article before commenting, he said it worked it worked in regards to “avoiding soft tissue injuries”. Reading is supposed to be fundamental but I guess understanding being hopefully optimistic. LOL

  7. Did you see the teams that the Browns fielded since his arrival? They went 7-9 in 2014 and then dumped players. By 2017, they had rookies and paycheck cashers. I’ll give the guy a chance with actual talent.

  8. The eagles had more injuries then any1 last year. The Eagles practiced harder than anyone. Tackling to the ground all through out the season. The Eagles blew out almost every team they played last year. The Eagles won the Superbowl.

    But sure Hugh youve been successful because nobody had a calf strain.

  9. I think Hugh is the only person in America who thinks that he has any credibility to make a statement like that. “I was once sitting in the same seats as you guys as an assistant coach.” You’re right Hugh. Then you went 1-31. Looks like you’ll be sitting in the assistant coach seat sooner than you probably think. The nerve this clown has…

  10. Jackson is an out of control egomaniac. I have worked for people who ask ‘any comments or ideas’ then turn around and say its ‘my way or the highway’. Haley, whom I am not a huge fan of, was 100% correct in his criticism. Apparently there is no statistical correlation with soft tissue injuries and wins.

  11. Well, it certainly worked for Joe Thomas! He took at least half of training camp off last year and played fantastic, except for that career ending triceps tear.

  12. Todd Haley is a first rate Delta Bravo, but in this case he was right. The minute that veterans start to sense that you can skip practice with marginal boo-boos and still play on game day, it’s over – their entire practice week is going to be like training camp, with twos and threes getting all the reps. Hey, Coach Jackson, your team is 1-31 in the last two years – maybe your ones aren’t worth babying. Just a thought…

  13. Well, the Packers can’t get through a single practice without a soft-tissue injury, so I wish they would try it here. I think not having good players is more a reason for 1-31 then having a couple of guys skip practice.

  14. It has indeed worked, their players have remained healthy into and through the season. The issue is their roster hasn’t had anywhere near enough good players the past two seasons; that was on Sashi Brown.

  15. I feel for Brown fans with this coach. Has not won but wants to do things the same losing way.

  16. The Browns 1-31 problem isn’t due to “the coaches going easy on players in practice” it’s due to the football operations staff going easy on picking talent during the draft and free agency.

    When any of the skill position players on those 1-31 teams goes on to have a breakout career somewhere else that’s harder on them in practice then Haley’s point is made. As of right now all of those guys are backups on their new teams. In fact the Browns have a history of their players playing WORSE when they go on to other teams which means Hue is actually better than anyone is giving him credit for since he’s getting talent from people that aren’t that talented. Terrelle Pryors career has been nothing but being injured since he’s left Hue and Cleveland.

  17. As a coach, you have to have had success AT SOME LEVEL to say & do this kind of stuff. Jax is going to lose this locker room once they find out AGAIN that his techniques are draconian. Remember Hue: these guys will still be able to cash their checks if they lose most of their games – which is what I wouldn’t bet against.

  18. Over the last two seasons, the Browns have been within three points of their opponent in the fourth quarter fifteen times, and they lost fourteen of those games.

    It’s great to have guys not be injured. But it’s better to have guys who are both healthy and actually in shape so that they don’t run out of gas after 45 minutes. Just ask the Jacksonville Jaguars. That’s the big difference between their 2016 and 2017 seasons. Doug Marrone had his players in shape, and they went to the AFC Championship Game. Gus Bradley didn’t, and he went 2-12 before being fired.

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