If Khalil Mack is traded, Packers are the betting favorites to land him

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As Khalil Mack continues his lengthy holdout, there’s increasing talk that the Raiders could trade him. If they do, the Packers appear to be the leading candidates to acquire him.

The sports book Bovada is taking odds on which team Mack will play for after the October 30 trade deadline, and the Packers, at 11-4 odds, are the favorites. They’re followed by the Bills at 7-1, the Cowboys, Colts and Jets at 8-1, Washington at 9-1 and the Steelers at 12-1.

There’s no doubt that Mack is a player who would help the Packers’ defense, but there are reasons to think a trade could be a long shot. It would take a lot to pry Mack away from the Raiders, and just how much are the Packers willing to give up? The Packers have two first-round picks in the 2019 NFL draft, their own and the one they acquired in a draft-day trade with the Saints. Would they give up both first-round picks for Mack? That seems doubtful, but it’s probably what the Raiders would want if they’re going to trade him.

And then there’s the issue of the enormous cap hit Mack will have. No team is going to trade for Mack without getting him to agree to a long-term contract, and Mack isn’t going to sign for anything less than an enormous payday, perhaps rivaling whatever Aaron Donald and the Rams agree to for the biggest payday for a defensive player in NFL history. It may be hard to convince a team to give up a fortune in draft picks for the right to pay Mack a fortune in cash. It would be especially tough for the Packers, who are negotiating what may end up being the biggest contract in NFL history with Aaron Rodgers, to also manage to fit the biggest defensive player’s contract in NFL history under their salary cap, and still build a deep roster elsewhere.

That’s why the safest bet is that that Mack will remain a Raider. Those odds are 3-2.

156 responses to “If Khalil Mack is traded, Packers are the betting favorites to land him

  1. As a long time Packers fan, I say the chances of the Packers trading for Mack are slim and none. The Packers still haven’t handed the keys to the vault to Rodgers yet, and after they do, there won’t be nearly enough money to pay a guy like Mack.

  2. Gotta believe Gruden is angling towards this.

    He does not value those Buck and Jack guys in his 4-3. It’s why he moved Bruce back to DE (which Irvin loves). Mack is devalued in a 4-3. They probably feel like that money can be better spent on other positions.

  3. Must be slow news day. Let me explain how this works. He’s already under team control for 2018 because of his 5th year option. Then he can be tagged for the next 2 years after that. He isn’t going anywhere til at least 2020. You don’t let players with 1st ballot HOF talent walk away just as they are entering their prime.

  4. If Thompson was still GM, I’d say there’d be zero chance of the Packers trading for him. No one still knows the full extent of what Gutekunst is willing to do concerning a situation like this. Bottom line though, is that Mack wants a new contract before he reports. That means the Packers better be allowed to negotiate with Mack and work out a deal before any serious talks of what compensation they would give the Raiders for him.

  5. The only increasing talk is coming from speculation based on nothing other than a top player is holding out and a belief that Mark Davis is somehow too poor to afford NFL contracts even though the income from shared revenue alone is enough to run an NFL team. It will continue until Mack shows up at which time the talk will then turn to will the Raiders trade him before the deadline? Just never ends with all the talking heads wanting to give “hot takes.”

  6. Here we go… Our daily update on where Mack will be traded, how Gruden doesn’t value him, how the Raiders are broke and all the days that have gone by that the two sides haven’t been in contact. MACK WILL BE A RAIDER. HE’S NOT BEING TRADED.

  7. It will never happen but the unknown wildcard is whether Khalil Mack values a chance at a Superbowl ring over being the highest paid player at his position. If so, then maybe he’ll take less than the highest amount to sign with Green Bay. If he just wants money, chances are he will stay with Oakland or if he never wants a Superbowl ring, they might as well trade him to the Vikings.

  8. With Mack’s piss poor attitude and the Packers being desperate I can see how people think this trade makes sense. I pray it happens. After Rodgers’ new deal, him and Mack will be taking up %50 of the Packer’s cap

  9. Devalued in a 4-3? Interesting concept. a superior edge player is a superior edge player. 4-3, 3-4, 5-2, 6-1 it does not matter. when you can set the edge and also terrorize QBs, what they call you is meaningless.

  10. ariani1985 says:
    August 14, 2018 at 3:26 pm
    Turd nation will be in a frenzy with this news! Than again loserville USA was happy when the 711 opened up across the stadium!

    Seriously
    How old are you

    You better ask mommy if you are past your computer time

  11. Green Bay is the only team in the NFL with 2 first round picks for the 2019 draft. They may use one of their first round picks next year on a OLB anyhow. So trading a first round pick for him not out of the question.

    Money is not a issue. Gute would not even be in discussions if the Pack couldn’t afford Mack. Those saying they can’t are either haters or ignorant to the Packers finances. Gute already knows basically what Rodgers contract is going to be for. Minor things are being hammered out betweem Russ Ball(Packers contract guy) and Aaron’s agent.

    I am not saying the Packers will trade for Mack, but there are several reasons why they are the favorites to get Mack by the trade deadline.

  12. the problem is he wants quarterback money. the only teams that can afford to pay him that kind of cash are the ones with quarterbacks on rookie contracts. teams cannot afford two guys with quarterback contracts.

  13. Mack is the first ever player to be an all pro at 2 different positions in the same year. If they trade this potential future HOFer, the league needs to take over this team.

  14. cheeseisfattening says:
    August 14, 2018 at 3:33 pm
    With Mack’s piss poor attitude
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    Let’s stop right there. Mack has been the ultimate professional on and off the field, and his attitude has never been questioned. He’s all in, all the time.
    This isn’t about attitude, it’s about a guy with a short earning window of opportunity trying to maximize what he can get. He might not ever be worth as much as he is right now.

  15. whatjusthapped says:
    August 14, 2018 at 3:33 pm
    It will never happen but the unknown wildcard is whether Khalil Mack values a chance at a Superbowl ring over being the highest paid player at his position. If so, then maybe he’ll take less than the highest amount to sign with Green Bay. If he just wants money, chances are he will stay with Oakland or if he never wants a Superbowl ring, they might as well trade him to the Vikings.
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    The Packers don’t have a defensive player that could start on the Vikings. And they still won’t if Mack stays in Oakland.

  16. Ironic that the media glosses over the fact that the Raiders are cash strapped. This is the very same media that declared that NFL owners are bottomless pits of money.
    What say you now PFT?

  17. So two guys on the team take 50 million of your cap space?

    Unless you’re amazingly lucky on the injury front I just don’t see how that’s going to work long-term.

    I think guys like mac and Donald Have to make a decision as well as the team has to make a decision to keep them. Do they want 25 million dollars and not worry about winning or do they want to win the Superbowl and take 15 mil instead.

    Super Bowl teams need depth.

  18. I’d be surprised if Mack is going anywhere. Mack’s options are limited. He can either play for the Raiders this year or not. If he sits out the year his contract moves to 2019. That’s not going to happen. He can be unhappy if he wants but hes’ gotta play this year and I seriously doubt any offer the Raiders make will make him happy (see Le’Veon Bell). They could tag him and someone could try to acquire him but giving up two firsts is a lot unless it’s a team that drafts really low in the draft. However, those teams aren’t going to bust the salary cap for a LB. In essence the Raiders could hold onto him for 2018, 2019 and 2020. There’s very little Mack can do about that.

  19. Mack is 27, plus his sack production is DECLINING. If anything the Raiders should put a clause in his deal that if his sacks decline, he automatically gives up $10 million in salary back to the team.

  20. We hope packers do….they’ll tank the team even more with all the caps.. And of course green gay is where players go to die witch their career.

  21. Long term, this kind of move would cripple the Packers financially. Possibly leaving out a chance for a late push for a Superbowl like Drew Brees. But in the short term, this is a move that is similar to when they picked up Reggie White in FA and could get Rodgers another ring sooner rather than later.

  22. “It may be hard to convince a team to give up a fortune in draft picks for the right to pay Mack a fortune in cash.”

    Any team that does this would be extremely foolish. Giving up a bunch of draft picks for a contract that is going to be a significant % of your salary cap would be nothing less than insanity. A team can only afford to have 2 or 3 contracts like that and have enough cap space left to field good depth in the rest of the team. Part of maintaining good depth players is having draft picks that you can pay less than vets.

  23. We hope packers do….they’ll tank the team even more with all the caps.. And of course green gay is where players go to die with their career.

  24. If Rodgers is serious about wanting to win another (or multiple) Super Bowl’s this is the time to show it. Redo his contract for another 5 years in the $125m ballpark. He hasn’t finished two of the last five years after becoming the highest paid player in NFL history back in 2013. He had an average year in between the two NFFCG’s (where he didn’t look like Superman.) That – or just play out his contract and get franchised for another two years after that. Either scenario makes this trade all the more likely…

  25. ariani1985 says:
    August 14, 2018 at 3:26 pm
    Turd nation will be in a frenzy with this news! Than again loserville USA was happy when the 711 opened up across the stadium!
    ________________

    I’m not quite sure you even took the time to read the headline, let alone the story.
    This “news” has absolutely nothing to do with the Vikings.

  26. Before we trade Mack can we at least get the details on the Odell trade that was happening about 2 months ago?

  27. Trading Khalil Mack would be ridiculous and would cost the Raiders on the field for years to come. He’s a franchise-type game-changer and arguably the best defensive player in the league. He’s the best Raiders defender since Ted Hendricks retired.

    The draft picks acquired in a trade of Mack may not even pan out (a distinct possibility with Gruden controlling the draft) and even if they do, they wouldn’t collectively amount to the value on-the-field that Mack brings.

    The Raiders are probably in a bad cash-flow situation but Mack isn’t to blame because it’s the fault of Son-of-Al for putting 100 mil. guaranteed in escrow for a mediocre HC that no other team was looking to hire.

  28. Why does it take a lot to get Mack? A #1 and a #4 should be the max it would take. Then they could cut Mathews and have their Reggie White type defender again. Rodgers getting 30 million on offense…Mack 22 million on defense. Build around it.

  29. He’ll have to get used to helplessly watching the backs of Vikings receivers as they scamper towards the endzone.

  30. How does trading Mack to Green Bay get him closer to winning a Superbowl? Unless that guy was talking about Madden, lol

    Green Bay in the Superbowl, too funny. Gotta make the playoffs first losers.

  31. Liberalsruineverything :

    You mean the “best in the NFL” Vikings defence that got scorched by 38 points by a backup Qb the last time they took the field?

    Yah, pretty sure Mack could make the wannabe Vikings roster.

    Lmao

  32. It’s always fun hearing what’s “wrong” with the most successful franchise in league history, especially when it comes from fans of arguably the least successful franchise in league history. It’s like Steve Urkel trying to tell Mike Tyson how to fight. Precious.

  33. Yeah OK… I’ll grant you that in this day of fantasy football it’s fun for you kids to prattle about such nonsense.

    My Packers loving head would blow up if the Pack leaked that kind of trade or contract value away on one guy who isn’t Aaron Rodgers.

    Honestly, I think Mack didn’t want to go thru camp risking injury. Its not as though they’re actually penalize the guy monetarily when he does show up (without a new contract)

  34. If they did it, the Packers would have the clear cut best defense in the division.

    As of right now, the Packers have the top rated CB in the division, a defensive line that is as least as good as anyone else’s, and a probowl safety. Adding Mack to the pass rush and the NFL’s leading tackler (Martinez), and it would be pretty sick.

    Oh, in case you were wondering, Xavier Rhodes was rated as “average” by pro football focus.

  35. tylawblowncoverage says:
    August 14, 2018 at 3:30 pm
    Must be slow news day. Let me explain how this works. He’s already under team control for 2018 because of his 5th year option. Then he can be tagged for the next 2 years after that. He isn’t going anywhere til at least 2020. You don’t let players with 1st ballot HOF talent walk away just as they are entering their prime.

    —————

    Maybe so, but it always depends on what someone is willing to offer in return.

  36. Trade for him and what? There’s no chance in hell that the Packers could afford him after they give ARod the mega deal he’s been complaining about.

  37. Trade a first round pick and Clay Matthews for Mack.

    AR already takes up $20M in cap space. CM3 at takes up $11M. Give AR CM3’s money and that’s a push. Now you just have to structure Mack into the cap. A clever GM and cap man can make it happen.

  38. Liberalsruineverything says:
    August 14, 2018 at 3:54 pm

    The Packers don’t have a defensive player that could start on the Vikings.
    __________

    I’d say Blake Martinez could probably start ahead of Ben Gedeon as the linebacker who only plays 40% of the plays, although Gedeon may take a big jump from his rookie year so I’m not sure about that.

  39. It may chap Aaron Rodgers’ hide if Mack is a Packer and one of the highest paid defensive players, while Rodgers is still getting underpaid as a QB.

  40. No players are worth what these players are asking for and getting. Owners are worse. God given talent is a gift and should be rewarded but not at the expense of average Joe. These athletes kids, kids, kids, kids will never have any financial worries.

  41. Even though Mack is a once in a lifetime type player I want Buffalo to refrain from trading for him. I would rather see the Bills draft their own talent and continue on the path that McBeane has started. Is Mack worth two 1st round picks? Probably… But unless that players position is named QB I don’t think they are worth the NFL’s largest contract. Mack is a game changer, but without some decent talent around him he doesn’t make enough of a difference to warrant a contract that would surely kill paying other positions a decent amount. So please Buffalo… stay away from Mack.

  42. tokyosandblaster says:
    August 14, 2018 at 4:28 pm

    If they did it, the Packers would have the clear cut best defense in the division.

    As of right now, the Packers have the top rated CB in the division, a defensive line that is as least as good as anyone else’s, and a probowl safety. Adding Mack to the pass rush and the NFL’s leading tackler (Martinez), and it would be pretty sick.

    Oh, in case you were wondering, Xavier Rhodes was rated as “average” by pro football focus.
    __________

    Thanks for posting this. Now Raiders fans know how little you know about football.

    I was just looking at last year’s All Pro team. I saw Xavier Rhodes on both the first team and the second team. I didn’t see any Packer CBs, so I’m not sure to whom you are referring.

    I saw Everson Griffen on the second team despite playing half the year on a torn plantar fascia. I didn’t see Khalil Mack.

    But hey, congratulations on that pro bowl safety!

  43. A lot of people getting their jimmies rustled over the thought of Mack to the Pack.

    This makes me think even more that it wouldn’t be a bad trade for Green Bay. A first rounder and a 3rd rounder could get it done now. If we get into the season and Mack isn’t resigned, Oakland may move him for less at the Oct. 30th trade deadline.

    If nothing else just the talk of it has the Barneys panties in a bunch so it’s a win😁

  44. Oh, look…it’s _______ is a magician. Formerly In ______ we trust.

    The Packers defense hasn’t been very good. You’re right. But looking at the stats, it shows that Xavier Rhodes is slowing down, and was just plain average last year, whereas Tramon Williams was a good CB.

    Facts don’t lie.

    Other facts:

    As a defensive coordinator, Pettine has never had a defense lower than 10th.

    Even if the Packers improve to the middle teens, we both know Rodgers will score enough points to win more games than Kirk “I can’t win in the Playoffs” Cousins.

    Have a great day!

  45. Mack is the real deal and will get QB money from someone. The Packers wouldn’t trade two first round picks for him, would they? They gotta pay Rodgers first and foremost. It would be really out of character for them, but I wouldn’t put it past Jerry Jones to do it with that salary cap space for next year burning a hole in his pocket.

  46. The only talk about him being traded is from the talking heads who ” hope ” he gets traded so they can bash the raiders for trading him.

    in the real world there is no chance the raiders trade Mack.

  47. He’ll be under contract before the season starts. The trade happens next year when we can’t afford Cooper.

  48. As a Vikings fan I hope it happens. Handcuff that salary cap between Arodg and Mack and watch them to continue to struggle to build a team around their star QB.

  49. whatjusthapped says:
    August 14, 2018 at 3:33 pm
    It will never happen but the unknown wildcard is whether Khalil Mack values a chance at a Superbowl ring over being the highest paid player at his position.
    ————
    Are there is another packer fan bragging about a pre season super bowl.

  50. tokyosandblaster says:
    August 14, 2018 at 4:28 pm
    If they did it, the Packers would have the clear cut best defense in the division.

    As of right now, the Packers have the top rated CB in the division, a defensive line that is as least as good as anyone else’s, and a probowl safety. Adding Mack to the pass rush and the NFL’s leading tackler (Martinez), and it would be pretty sick.

    Oh, in case you were wondering, Xavier Rhodes was rated
    ———–
    Why are you talking about the Vikings?
    Your friend wafflestomp doesn’t like it.

  51. tokyosandblaster says:
    August 14, 2018 at 4:50 pm

    Oh, look…it’s _______ is a magician. Formerly In ______ we trust.

    The Packers defense hasn’t been very good. You’re right. But looking at the stats, it shows that Xavier Rhodes is slowing down, and was just plain average last year, whereas Tramon Williams was a good CB.

    Facts don’t lie.

    Other facts:

    As a defensive coordinator, Pettine has never had a defense lower than 10th.

    Even if the Packers improve to the middle teens, we both know Rodgers will score enough points to win more games than Kirk “I can’t win in the Playoffs” Cousins.

    Have a great day!
    __________

    “Looking at the stats”? That’s how you evaluate who the best cornerbacks are? Rhodes follows the other team’s best wide receiver around all game long. Quarterbacks are afraid to throw it in his direction so he isn’t going to put up big stats. Tramon Williams played for Arizona last year, which means Patrick Peterson took the best WR and Williams took whoever was left. There isn’t an NFL observer anywhere, other than you, who thinks Tramon Williams is better than Xavier Rhodes. First team All Pro is not “just plain average.” Now just stop. You’re embarrassing yourself.

  52. The only way to truely know if the packers are interested is to ask the GM Aaron Rodgers.
    Lately, he has been discussing new ways to do contracts and new ways to do the salary cap.

    Given that, I predict Aaron says no to this trade until he gets his contract.

  53. Now raiders nation understands how completely ignorant Vikings fans are in regards to the intricacies on the NFL.

    Plenty of cap room for the Packers even after Rodgers deal is finalized

  54. raidernation210 says:
    August 14, 2018 at 5:03 pm

    It’s amazing ever raiders article draws the biggest losers in the comment section.
    __________

    Please allow me to apologize for Tokyo. He’s really gone off the deep end lately, ever since the Packers hired Mike Pettine the Magician. He spends his free time rank ordering NFL players within each position and bases all of his comments on those rankings.

  55. Mack is the real deal and will get QB money from someone. The Packers wouldn’t trade two first round picks for him, would they?
    ======

    Damarious Randall
    Justin Harrell..
    Datone Jones…
    Mike Neal….
    Jerel Worthy…..

    Why the heck not???!!

  56. Please – Do you REALLY think this guy will get you another ring? With him you still need 20 more players that are at least 1/2 as good and your team is not even close to that. You keep dreaming. That knock on the door is the 70s and 80s era team come back to roost.
    SKOL!

  57. Fun comments all around…..

    Mack will be a Raider this year…..

    The Raiders are going to Vegas in 2 years…….News flash only people on team and in Organization assured of going with…

    Mark Davis
    Jon Gruden
    Derrick Carr

    Kolton Miller(1st round pick)

    everyone else????????????????????

  58. Please – Do you REALLY think this guy will get you another ring?
    =====

    Lots of question marks, but I’d bet he would be enough to retake the division.

    Lots of stars would have to align for this group to win a Super Bowl… but we’ve seen it before (2010)

  59. As a Vikings fan I hope this trade happens. Why? Because with what they will be paying Mack & Cheese (Rodgers) they won’t have enough left over to put together a quality team for at least 5 years!

  60. Mack would be a great add to this team, but I am very confident in our roster now for this season. Very confident.

    The jealous, upset, delusional Vikings fans like Rob Bryz can lie to themselves all they want about how the Packers “roster is horrible” Rob has said over and over how “far superior” the Vikings roster is. Anyone that has seen the Vikings panic and worry about having to depend on their depth on the OL knows this clown Rob Bryz is delusional, but I digress.

    The truth will be shown on the field, between the lines, starting week 1 Sept. 9th and I am very much looking forward to it.

  61. mnrasslinggovjesse says:
    August 14, 2018 at 5:08 pm
    It’s so cute that Heidi fans think they have they only front office guys who can pay big money and still fit under the cap

    No, we just think a cap guy that carries 8 million plus in dead cap money every year and a cap guy who is paying a below average kicker over 5 million this year can’t.

  62. Why does it take a lot to get Mack? A #1 and a #4 should be the max it would take. Then they could cut Mathews and have their Reggie White type defender again.
    =====

    Why cut Clay?

    Play him inside. Probably better suited for that spot anyway given his propensity to run himself out of plays attacking the edge.

  63. Ron Jull says:
    August 14, 2018 at 4:25 pm
    Liberalsruineverything :

    You mean the “best in the NFL” Vikings defence that got scorched by 38 points by a backup Qb the last time they took the field?

    Yah, pretty sure Mack could make the wannabe Vikings roster.

    Lmao
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    Reading comprehension level— NOVICE

  64. I don’t think the Raiders will trade Mack. Players like this don’t come along very often. The Raiders are so close to being a playoff team, why would you go backwards? Keep Mack, plus having key players around him on defense, Gruden will have them playing championship like football by November.
    BTW, what’s up with the Viking fans posting child like comments? Do they know the Raiders and Packers have 100 times more NFL history than the Vikings will ever have? 7 Super Bowls between them. 0 for that other team that is irrelevant.
    It’s almost embarrassing to read their comments. Are we in grade school again? Lol

  65. jbvikes says:
    August 14, 2018 at 5:40 pm

    Please – Do you REALLY think this guy will get you another ring? With him you still need 20 more players that are at least 1/2 as good and your team is not even close to that. You keep dreaming. That knock on the door is the 70s and 80s era team come back to roost.
    SKOL!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    So what you’re saying is “Oh yeah? Well, for 25 years your Packers were as hapless as my Vikings have been for their entire existence! So there!” Yeah, you really got us there.

  66. Everyone says the Raiders don’t have the cap space for this guy. I don’t follow the Raiders that closely, but I can’t figure out where it is all going. I can break down my team, the Vikings…these are contracts over the last 3 years…

    Kirk Cousins-3 yrs 84 mil
    Stefon Diggs-5 yrs 72 mil
    Danielle Hunter-5 yrs 72 mil
    Xavier Rhodes-5 yrs 70.1 mil
    Riley Reiff-5 yrs 58.75 mil
    Everson Griffen-4 yrs 58 mil
    Harrison Smith-5 yrs 51.25 mil
    Linval Joseph-4 yrs 50.35 mil
    Eric Kendricks-5 yrs 50 mil
    Kyle Rudolph-5 yrs 36.5 mil
    Mike Remmers-5 yrs 30 mil
    Adam Thielen-4 yrs 19.25 mil
    Sheldon Richardson-1 yr 8 mil
    Anthony Barr-12 mil cap hit for his 5th year option

    I guess I can’t figure out who is taking up all that cap space on the Raiders.

  67. The Packers could definitely use him, but without Rodgers contract redone at this point, I can’t see them breaking the bank for Mack. If the Rodgers contract gets done and Mack is still a holdout, then maybe this happens.

  68. I think the Pack needs to focus on paying A-Rod what he wants. A one-man team has few options but to feed the beast.

  69. I keep saying this…

    Three way trade:

    KM to the Rams from the Raiders
    AD to the Seahawks from the Rams
    ET to the Raiders from the Seahawks

    Everybody wins because every team gets an elite player at a position of need for them.

  70. freefromwhatyouare says:
    August 14, 2018 at 6:15 pm

    Mack would be a great add to this team, but I am very confident in our roster now for this season. Very confident.

    The jealous, upset, delusional Vikings fans like Rob Bryz can lie to themselves all they want about how the Packers “roster is horrible” Rob has said over and over how “far superior” the Vikings roster is. Anyone that has seen the Vikings panic and worry about having to depend on their depth on the OL knows this clown Rob Bryz is delusional, but I digress.

    The truth will be shown on the field, between the lines, starting week 1 Sept. 9th and I am very much looking forward to it.
    _________

    You keep quoting me as saying the Vikings’ roster is “far superior” to the Packers’. Can you please tell me when I said this? I found another story where you quoted me as saying that but I didn’t say anything remotely close to that. I will respond when Packer fans crow about what a great roster the Packers have because I honestly can’t see why they believe that. Having the best quarterback in the NFL does not equate to having a great roster. Allow me to point you to last season’s results as proof. I think the Packers can win a lot of games with Rodgers at quarterback and I think they would be lucky to win 5 games without him. Sorry if that offends you, but a lot of people agree with that assessment. A lot of people also say that the Vikings have one of the best rosters in the NFL. I’m not sure why you get so upset when people say that? If you really feel that confident in your roster, why don’t you just let the results play out and stop trying to cut down other teams?

  71. “Stop trying to cut down other teams”

    =============

    Are you serious?😂

    Rob, you and your fellow Vikings fan/trolls flood in every Packers thread and attempt to turn everything to the negative about the Packers. I don’t know if you are trying to make your team more relevant by cutting on a team that has what you want or what your motives are. But one thing you can’t deny is that it is what Vikings fans here do.

    Get a grip guy if you think you can tell anyone to worry about their own team and stop trying to cut down other teams😄

    How about you personally start by stopping your trolling of Packers threads. You never see me in Vikings threads “cutting down” your team now do you? You can do as you please, but you can’t tell anyone to not cut down other teams when it is a large part of what you do here.

    The season will play out whether we “let” it or not. I am very confident on what the season will show and who is right and wrong.

    #100Seasons

    #26DaysToWeek1Kickoff!

    #GoPackGo!

  72. I don’t see Mack going to Green Bay. Their two first round picks should be very late in the round, and Mack is worth two high first rounders. Mack would be the overall number one pick in an average draft. Some team would have to give up an early first round pick, a second rounder, and a pro bowl player to get Mack.

  73. I want to be a fan of this guy, but he disappears in alot of games against even above average teams

  74. You never see me in Vikings threads “cutting down” your team now do you?
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    Yes, i have. Not only in Viking threads but also trolling in Lion’s threads. Casual wonder, why do Packer trolls on here believe that only Vikings trolls exist? Do you honestly believe that and are just not self aware or is it just part of your trolling.

  75. The Raider have Mac-Daddy for three more years he’s under contract this season then if a deal is not done we tag him two more years …then he’ll be 30 years old !!!

    Its not brain surgery just the common NFL business way !!

    JUST WIN NOW BABY !!!

  76. Mack is going No where. He wants his contract to defer money til he gets to the lovely non tax state on neeeeeevada. This crap talk of trade is so writer’s has some ink to fill in until the season starts and when it does he will be in a raiders uniform

  77. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:

    “Looking at the stats”? That’s how you evaluate who the best cornerbacks are? Rhodes follows the other team’s best wide receiver around all game long. Quarterbacks are afraid to throw it in his direction so he isn’t going to put up big stats. Tramon Williams played for Arizona last year, which means Patrick Peterson took the best WR and Williams took whoever was left. There isn’t an NFL observer anywhere, other than you, who thinks Tramon Williams is better than Xavier Rhodes. First team All Pro is not “just plain average.” Now just stop. You’re embarrassing yourself.

    ///

    As a Florida State fan,

    Xavier “holds” is average. If he could do something other than grab he might be great.

    Always was that way.

  78. unless I am the owner of the packers, otherwise as cheap as the packer owners are this will never ever happen. I wish it does, it’ll only tanking the team.

  79. If Mark Davis is UNABLE to pay Khalil Mack, then he cannot keep the team or must bring in a partner immediately. For an NFL owner to be short of funds or is mismanaging funds is a horrible sign that he cannot do reasonable business in the NFL.

    This story makes the Raiders look worse and worse with each passing day.

  80. raidernation210 says:
    August 14, 2018 at 5:03 pm
    It’s amazing ever raiders article draws the biggest losers in the comment section.

    ————————

    Yeah, they’re faider fans. Duh.

  81. Cheese:
    No, we just think a cap guy that carries 8 million plus in dead cap money every year and a cap guy who is paying a below average kicker over 5 million this year can’t.
    >>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<
    Not sure what you're referencing there, but I'll take a stab: Over the last 3 years, Green Bay has the second lowest accrued dead money in the NFL, second only to the Bengals in that department;
    Yes, Mason Crosby is making $5.25M this year, part of a contract that averages $4.025M over 4 years. Happens to be 4th in the league salary-wise. He is far from a below average kicker, even while working in some of the trickiest weather conditions in the league……doesn't kick in the comfort of a dome.

  82. This is definitely a long shot and probably not going to happen but by reading the comments its funny to see how this simple rumor has Viking fans terrified.

  83. Packers don’t have the cap space – roughly $6.5 mil.
    The Browns Colts and Niners have the most cap space, but do they want to risk the future by trading high draft picks. None of these 3 teams are close to being rebuilt.
    Jacksonville and Atlanta have some cap room and are ready built. If I had to bet I’d pick one of those 2,……. if Oakland unloads him of course. Personally I think they work it out on a deal.

  84. philcodean says:
    August 14, 2018 at 8:58 pm

    even while working in some of the trickiest weather conditions in the league……doesn’t kick in the comfort of a dome.
    ———————————————

    Jealousy of all of the Vikings shiny new toys is a bad look for you and your fellow Gumby’s.

  85. He is under contract for this year and they can franchise tag him the next two…so unless you are willing to give up a lot…he will be in a Raiders uniform…

  86. Liberals:
    Jealousy of all of the Vikings shiny new toys is a bad look for you and your fellow Gumby’s.
    >>>>>><<<<<<<<<<
    I didn't mention the Vikings in my post. And by the way, in Green Bay they
    don't shine "new toys", they shine Lombardi trophies.

  87. NFL Teams need to start dishing out more cash – the amount of money not given to the leagues best players is insane in comparison to the revenue the league generates and what other leagues pay their players

    Increase the cap and incentivize teams to sign players for what they are worth so teams don’t have t feel like they mortgage thier future for one player.. so these dirty games an end

  88. aarons444 says: 20th in 2011 and 2012..

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    Mike Pettine’s defensive rankings as a coordinator:

    2009 Jets

    Total-252.3 (First)

    Scoring-14.8 (First)

    2010 Jets

    Total-291.5 (Third)

    Scoring-19.0 (Sixth)

    2011 Jets

    Total-312.1 (Fifth)

    Scoring-22.7 (20th)

    2012 Jets

    Total-323.4 (Eighth)

    Scoring-23.4 (20th)

    2013 Bills

    Total-333.4 (10th)

    Scoring-24.3 (20th)

    aarons44, you seem like a somewhat intelligent person. I would think you would like to show the full story and not just go by scoring which no one in the NFL does when talking about defensive rankings. We on PFT prefer you not just post what serves your agenda. Thank you😊

  89. raidernation210 says:
    August 14, 2018 at 5:03 pm
    It’s amazing ever raiders article draws the biggest losers in the comment section.

    Clearly you haven’t been reading Pats articles.

  90. wafflestomp says:
    August 14, 2018 at 7:44 pm
    Does anybody else read ariani’s posts in Patrick’s voice from SpongeBob Squarepants?

    *******************
    You know, I do now!

  91. aarons44, you seem like a somewhat intelligent person.

    Who wastes it on senseless hucksterism. He also thinks Rodgers is better than Brady. He found a couple of ways to manipulate which stats he uses to prove that 1 SB win is better than 5.

  92. Who wastes it on senseless hucksterism. He also thinks Rodgers is better than Brady. He found a couple of ways to manipulate which stats he uses to prove that 1 SB win is better than 5.
    =====

    I used stats to demonstrate why I believe that.

    The Patriot 8 Super Bowls is a great teams stat that is unparalleled.

  93. Liberalsruineverything says:
    August 14, 2018 at 9:26 pm

    Jealousy of all of the Vikings shiny new toys is a bad look for you and your fellow Gumby’s.

    ———————–

    Funny to see a “conservative” brag about “shiny new toys” which were paid for on the backs of the taxpayers of Minnesota.

    Glad I live in a state where a snowflake governor doesn’t reside.

  94. Yes, Mason Crosby is making $5.25M this year, part of a contract that averages $4.025M over 4 years. Happens to be 4th in the league salary-wise. He is far from a below average kicker, even while working in some of the trickiest weather conditions in the league……doesn’t kick in the comfort of a dome.
    ======

    Crosby is the least active kicker in football. 80.29%.. nearly 10 full points behind Justin Tucker 90.17%

    Stephen Gostkowski kicks in similar elements – 87.6%

    Robbie Gould kicked in the same elements – 85.4%

    Everybody used to rave about his leg.. despite the fact that he couldn’t hit from 50+.. 50.8%

    Gostkowski – 76.6%
    Gould – 77.1%

    Crosby is well below average, in an era where kickers are better than ever.. to the point where they changed the rules of the game.

  95. aarons44, you seem like a somewhat intelligent person. I would think you would like to show the full story and not just go by scoring which no one in the NFL does when talking about defensive rankings. We on PFT prefer you not just post what serves your agenda. Thank you😊
    =====

    I respect that opinion.

    But since “you play to win the game”, and you win by scoring more points than the other team, I don’t see a more relevant defensive stat than points allowed.

    .. I’m thrilled that Pettine is in GB though. Not taking shots at him. Just think its unrealistic to expect him to come in and reinvent Buddy Ryans 46.

  96. itsalwaysabout says:”He also thinks Rodgers is better than Brady. He found a couple ways to manipulate stats”

    ==================

    The Brady or Rodgers debate is a senseless one at this point. Using stats and Super Bowl numbers at least.

    Tom has 7 years on Aaron in putting up overall stats and Super Bowls.

    I think we all can agree we are lucky to be alive to witness both Aaron and Tom play. They are players that future generations will ask “Wow, you saw Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers play?”

    Let’s wait until both careers are over to say who is better. Plenty of people ask me who is better Favre or Rodgers? I give the same answer. Let’s wait and see.

    Aaron won the last game Brady and he played head to head. We all should make sure we don’t miss the game on Nov. 4th when they will meet head to head again.

  97. “I don’t see a more relevant stat than points allowed”

    ==================

    So let’s say a offense fumbles 3 times and the opposing team score 21 points getting the ball in great field position on those 3 scores. The opposing defense only gives up 27 yards that day.

    Would “points allowed” be the only relevant stat for the defense that day?

    Of course no one would ever just use points to rate a defense. It would be ridiculous.

    Also…

    No one said Pettine is going to come in and reinvent the game, but his past does tell us he has been quite successful coordinating defenses. I think those that say “the Packers defense is horrible” are in for some surprises this season. He has said he is very pleased with the pieces he has to work with in Green Bay. Also having Wilkerson and Tramon Williams who have played in his defenses before will only add to the success of this defense.

  98. Not gonna happen. Why would the Raiders trade him? Would they be betteer without him. Not likely. They hit on a draft pick. The system is set up for the team that hits on a first round pick to keep them 7 years…. 7 years. Next year is when they should get serious about signing him.

  99. this is all talk and the raiders are 3/2 favorites to have mack on the team
    in reality mack is signed to a contract that gives the raiders control
    and the mack situation willnot be resolved until the aaron donald situation is

  100. freefromwhatyouare says:
    August 15, 2018 at 11:13 am

    No one said Pettine is going to come in and reinvent the game, but his past does tell us he has been quite successful coordinating defenses

    ////////////////////////

    Interesting post. So you can also say that McCarthy could move on and be a very successful HC elsewhere because of his past. Myself and about 95% of packer fans would disagree. Just because you were successful with a group of talented players does not mean you can turn water into wine.

  101. Whatever helps you sleep at night Florida Vikings fan.

    Keep telling yourself whatever you want👌

    Reality will be shown starting week one Sept. 9th.

    We all see the fear you have of the Packers and how much they are on your mind when you can’t stop whining in Packers threads.

    #100Seasons

    #TitleTown

    #24DaysToWeek1KickOff🏈

  102. The better bet would be for Mack to join THE LIONS to make a TRUE difference!

    ROAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #ONEPRIDE

  103. Count me in as one who would love to see the Packers screw up their cap for seasons to come, and thin their depth down even more than it is now

  104. as a life long Raider fan I really love having Mack being a force in our front 7 ..but with that said for 20 million im really not so sure its worth it ..dont get me wrong he has some very dominant games at times but for the way people and media talk about his greatness I just dont see it..sure he has the 5 sack game vs Denver and the pick 6 against Cam Newton but for 20 million I just think he isnt in enough plays ..sometimes he can have no sacks or even tackles for 3 and half quarters then late in 4th qt he will get 2 sacks but by then Raiders are to far behind ..i want to keep him but not for 20 million..the highest i can see giving him is 15 to 17 million a year for 4 years anything more is over paying..we need realize we have to many holes to upgrade on defense for 1 player on D to make 20 million year

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