Bill Belichick: Helmet rule not a change for us, we’ve always taught heads-up

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There’s been plenty of consternation about the NFL’s new rule against lowering the helmet to initiate contact, but Patriots coach Bill Belichick isn’t sweating it.

Belichick said on WEEI that as far as he’s concerned, there’s no reason for the Patriots to change the way they tackle, because Belichick has always told his players not to lower their heads when making contact.

It’s not a change for us, for our coaching staff,” Belichick said. “We’ve never taught tackling with the crown of your helmet, putting your head down, leaning your body forward in that type of position. I don’t think fundamentally that’s a good position to be in. It’s not effective. We’ve always tackled with our head up, eyes open, head back, so we can see what we hit. That’s the only way I’ve ever coached. If we do it that way, we’ll be within the rules.”

In an offseason when the new rule has been hotly debated, Belichick is not interested in joining that debate.

“It doesn’t matter whether I like the rule or don’t like the rule,” Belichick said. “My job is to understand the rule and coach it.”

At a time when coaches, players, media members and fans all have concerns about the new helmet rule, Belichick does not.

112 responses to “Bill Belichick: Helmet rule not a change for us, we’ve always taught heads-up

  1. just a pre-cursor for when they inevitably have the fewest calls against them….coincidentally i’ll bet their opponents have the most called in games againt them

  2. “It doesn’t matter whether I like the rule or don’t like the rule,” Belichick said. “My job is to understand the rule and coach it.”

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    of all people in the NFL…

  3. So he’s the voice of reason now? The guy who secretly benched his best cornerback for the entire Super Bowl and refuses to explain why. Sorry but, he lost 80% credibility in my eyes. Tom Brady has made him a HOF coach.

  4. We were taught in pee wees that spearing was a no no. The hit that injured Shazier is the textbook definition on how NOT to tackle.

  5. Meanwhile the Philthydelphia football team wants to remind you that they won a Snooper Bowl.

  6. The few games I saw the receivers and the running backs put there heads down…seems like they know they will get the PI call, especially New England. I’m sure every team is going to be taking advantage of the call. The one who suffers is the player…too many hits to the head.

  7. Carroll Prescott says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:29 pm
    Meanwhile the Philthydelphia football team wants to remind you that they won a Snooper Bowl.

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    and a hit to the head of Brandin Cooks, which certainly benefited the Eagles, will be a penalty this year

  8. Ignorant comment. As someone who played – and a physiologist – heads get lowered all the time. It is the natural human response to contact. The key is we learned not to spear. The new rule isn’t about spearing. It’s contrary to how we react, physiologically, to contact.

    I’m sure idiot Pats fans will say different but it’s a BS comment. Even the great god BB can’t affect human nature. Which is why the rule sucks.

    Now, will the NFL call it on the Patriots?

    They’d have to have an actual defense for that.

    Oh. And Eagles won.

  9. Another illustration that Belichick is playing chess while the rest of the league is playing marbles. He already anticipated where the league was headed and adjusted accordingly.

    -The GOAT coach
    -The GOAT GM

  10. sasattack says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:24 pm
    We were taught in pee wees that spearing was a no no. The hit that injured Shazier is the textbook definition on how NOT to tackle.

    Agreed. And BB has nothing on a pee wee FB coach in that regard. Only in NE. But the fact is this rule is wrong.

  11. nfl coaches dont really teach the players any technique. that ends in college where head leading tackling is less common. historically its just scouts that go for the guys that exhibit the less common but more effective/dangerous tackling technique

  12. bullcharger says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:25 pm
    This is why BB gets an advantage… while everyone else is complaining, he’s adapting and moving on.
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    Not really an accurate statement…according to Belicheck, he has nothing to change…so he’s not adapting to anything…

  13. All the whiners are going to argue with BB, too. Every decent coach I know preaches heads up, even in Pee Wee leagues. This rule is plain, clear and simple. Do NOT initiate contact with your helmet.

  14. Won’t matter. Goodell already has orders to bag some games via the refs this year.

    Two games, if not 4, will be these:

    1. Vs Houston
    2. A Jax
    3. @ Teen
    4 @ Pitt

    All potential playoff teams where Goodell will try to give one of those teams the tieeaker for homefield.

    If any or all of these games are close late OR NE has a big lead in any of them, watch for the phantom penalties to be called.

    I’ll bet anyone money on this.

    The most fundamentally sound sports team, arguably ever, will somehow lead the league in this penalty.

    LMAO

  15. edukator44 says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:21 pm
    just a pre-cursor for when they inevitably have the fewest calls against them….coincidentally i’ll bet their opponents have the most called in games againt them

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    If his happens it will be because they’re doing it right and their opponents aren’t. Boom.

  16. And other teams DON’T ? News for ya Mr. Perfect i was taught heads up in college in 1973. I like him better when he doesn’t talk

  17. jman967 says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:18 pm
    Understanding rules and following through with them haven’t always been BB’s forte.

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    That makes no sense.

    Goodell was hired by Woody Johnson of the Jets to find ways to create problems for the Pats, replete with 2 framejobs, one proven in a federal court.

    In fact, it’s just the opposite. BB is so on top of league rules, since 2006 the rule changes, additions or subtractions, have tripled under Goodell, specifically with BB in mind to try to weaken what he can do as a coach.

    BB traded for Moss and Welker in 2007, because he knew all the rules would start favoring offenses, so he started building offense first, and defenses second.

    You people are either really dumb or think Goodell arriving with all these changes for the WORSE, in the mane of greed and expanding the league, is all one big coincidence.

  18. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:35 pm
    Another illustration that Belichick is playing chess while the rest of the league is playing marbles. He already anticipated where the league was headed and adjusted accordingly.

    -The GOAT coach
    -The GOAT GM

    0 1 Rate This

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    of course he’s the GOAT GM and Coach, but your jealousy is a Jets fan is what makes it so hilarious to watch you squirm as a troll in a basement in NJ.

    Enjoy, little guy! Hey, have you ever kissed a girl?

  19. Instead Belicheat teaches his players to spear defenseless players laying on the ground with their elbows.

    Sincerely Gronk

    Definition of a crybaby = Patriots fan

  20. jackedupboonie says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:22 pm
    So he’s the voice of reason now? The guy who secretly benched his best cornerback for the entire Super Bowl and refuses to explain why. Sorry but, he lost 80% credibility in my eyes. Tom Brady has made him a HOF coach.

    ——————–

    An up and down, passer rating of 103 Butler was in no way better than Gilmore. No way.

    Do you watch the NFL?

    The coaches and his own teammates lost faith in him and he was a challenge to get mentally prepared for each game all year per Patricia.

    Did you see the CB needy Lions bidding on Butler? No, I didn’t either.

    Good day, clueless wonder.

    Brady would be absolutely nothing without BB and Brady lost SB 42 and SB 46 with subpar performances, especially when plays were there to be made.

  21. phootbolgawd says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:22 pm
    “It doesn’t matter whether I like the rule or don’t like the rule,” Belichick said. “My job is to understand the rule and coach it.”

    _____________________

    of all people in the NFL…

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    Why is it “of all the people”? No one knows the rule book from front to back better than he does.

    This is not news. Greatest ever. GM and Coach, In ANY Sport.

    Somewhere Red Auerbach blushes. Imagine if Auervach had to face a cheating commissionere, there 32 teams and a salary cap?

    He wouldn’t have all those titles, I can tell you that.

  22. williamshatnerstoupee says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:46 pm
    Will tylaw ever stop crying about the commish robbing the Patriots?

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    Will Goodell stop cheating? Always go to the source of a problem. That’s how you fix a problem….

    Ratings have dropped 2 years in a row, expect a 3rd straight….Especially with this moronically arbitrary and no definitive parmeters of a rule.

  23. redclaw1314 says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:34 pm
    Carroll Prescott says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:29 pm
    Meanwhile the Philthydelphia football team wants to remind you that they won a Snooper Bowl.

    _____________________

    and a hit to the head of Brandin Cooks, which certainly benefited the Eagles, will be a penalty this year

    This article is about the “Patriot way” not the SUPER BOWL CHAMPION PHILADELIIPHIA EAGLES so why are you even mentioning them. The hit was legal watch it again i have abot 10 times

  24. TruFBFan says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:34 pm
    Ignorant comment. As someone who played – and a physiologist – heads get lowered all the time. It is the natural human response to contact. The key is we learned not to spear. The new rule isn’t about spearing. It’s contrary to how we react, physiologically, to contact.

    I’m sure idiot Pats fans will say different but it’s a BS comment. Even the great god BB can’t affect human nature. Which is why the rule sucks.

    Now, will the NFL call it on the Patriots?

    They’d have to have an actual defense for that.

    Oh. And Eagles won.

    12 10 Rate This

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    Are you this dumb? They were calling perfect text book tackles last week in the Pats/Eagles game as a penalty.

    Did you see Goodell give orders to the refs in the SB to give Philly calls for 14 free points after the replay showed an incompletion and an illegal formation call that mysteriously went missed.

    Did you see it or were you watching the Murder She Wrote marathon, Beatrice?

    The whole point of this new rule is so Goodell has another way for the refs to manipulate games the way he wants them.

    If the Pats are awful for parity and league expansion with falling ratings, how on earth would Goodell want to help them with not calling actual penalties against them?

    I can bet you right now, in all of the AFC games in particular, Goodell’s henchmen will be available to swing a game if it’s close, especially with NE on the road.

    Guarantee you attempts will be made.

    From 1982-2005, I’ve never seen the NFL have continuous creepy calls. From 2006-Present, that’s all there seems to be somewhat regularly and they have access to replay!

  25. Tylaw’s never ending tears are delicious. (Psst…….the Eagles won……)

  26. “Won’t matter. Goodell already has orders to bag some games via the refs this year.

    Two games, if not 4, will be these:

    1. Vs Houston
    2. A Jax
    3. @ Teen
    4 @ Pitt”

    It’s called a built in excuse and a self fulfilling prophecy. Cherry pick four meaningful games on the Pats schedule. “Guarantee” a bad call if they are not winning and blame Goodell for the bad call that hasn’t happened yet, in the game yet-to-be-played. So if they end up losing you can say “I told you so” and if the win, you’ll just act like you never said a word about it.

  27. citizenstrange says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:22 pm
    He sounds exactly like John Harbaugh ….. and also like Harbaugh the first time it is called against his team he wiLl be all “WAH! WAH! WAH!”
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    This is classic ignorant toll material. C’mon Keebler boy, come up with one instance that BB cried about an officials call. Just one. We’ll all wait.

  28. jman967 says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:18 pm

    Understanding rules and following through with them haven’t always been BB’s forte.
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    Please. Belichick understands and follows the rules so well, that the league has to constantly change them. See the substitution rule that had Harbaugh so completely flummoxed, that it precipitated one of the the largest frauds ever in sports history.

  29. The rule isn’t about “crown of the helmet”. It’s about any part of the helmet hitting the body, be it offense or defense. So in theory, a RB running unto the pile on 4th and one, or a receiver going for the extra yard can be flagged because he is initiating contact. The only thing excluded is a QB sneak, apparently the NFL, in its infinite wisdom, has concluded that a QB can’t get his bell rung or ring someone else’s bell when lowering their helmet. I get crown of the helmet, and all that stuff, but with this new rule, they might as well put everyone in sumo fat suits, and let them knock each other down….I have a feeling that might be a lot more entertaining than this years NFL season.

  30. downtownswinga says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:36 pm
    bullcharger says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:25 pm
    This is why BB gets an advantage… while everyone else is complaining, he’s adapting and moving on.
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    Not really an accurate statement…according to Belicheck, he has nothing to change…so he’s not adapting to anything…

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    Not what I meant by adapting. Everyone else is making a big deal about it and saying it isn’t fair and it will never work, etc. Belichick takes the opposite approach. Says he has always coached that way, leads his team in how the issues is viewed internally. Explains that his job is to coach the rules, whatever they are and they move on. That puts them ahead.

  31. Thetruthspeaks says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:45 pm
    Instead Belicheat teaches his players to spear defenseless players laying on the ground with their elbows.
    Sincerely Gronk
    Definition of a crybaby = Patriots fan

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    When you are that busy crying, how can you call others crybabies?

  32. williamshatnerstoupee says:
    August 21, 2018 at 5:02 pm
    Tylaw’s never ending tears are delicious. (Psst…….the Eagles won……)
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    For a fan base that hadn’t won a title since Super Bowls were a thing I get that being able to brag about beating the most dominant franchise in NFL history is that fan bases chance to be relevant……finally. It will be delicious watching them crawl back into the shadows like all the other one time wonders who thought they were the new dynasty in town. They know who they are but strangely most don’t show up here anymore. Eagle fans won’t be missed either.

  33. I remember new england patriots offensive linemen with their heads down
    searching for knees to hit.

    So… this could be what he is talking about.

  34. The Patriots were the exact fan base you just described after the Tuck Rule.

  35. Belichick: helmet rule not a change for us, we’ve always had the refs give us games we couldn’t win by merit

  36. Pats don’t need the refs to give them anything and have had just as many bad calls against them as every other team. The difference is they don’t cry like a 2 year old that dropped their ice cream cone in the sand when the get a bad call, they just go on to the next play or next game and work on improving themselves.

    Here’s another clue to the cacophony of fools and idiots. Belichick is the best coach in the league. Better coaching leads to fewer penalties.

    I know I know, many of you people consider hard work and innovation somehow “cheating” when in reality its because you are too lazy or incapable of working as hard as the Pats do yourselves.

  37. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:35 pm
    Another illustration that Belichick is playing chess while the rest of the league is playing marbles. He already anticipated where the league was headed and adjusted accordingly.

    -The GOAT coach
    -The GOAT GM

    =========================

    Rumor has it, that Bill can summon the ghost of Elvis, play a Stradivarius violin, and juggle 3 Gillette Fusion razors, all at the same time. GOAT indeed!!

  38. Carroll Prescott says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:29 pm
    Meanwhile the Philthydelphia football team wants to remind you that they won a Snooper Bowl.

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    Wha? Who?

  39. Honestly I did think the Pats have suffered from weak tackling (not real bad but a little bit) and this could be very well what I was seeing. So yeah, if thats the case then they will find the adjustment to be easier. I dont know if Belichicks motive was genius so much as just concern for his players. Considering what we have seen happen elsewhere in the league I could see a coach not wanting to see that happen to his guys.

  40. “The difference is they don’t cry like a 2 year old that dropped their ice cream cone in the sand when the get a bad call” Let me introduce you to tylaw.

  41. I’m just wondering if TyLawPick6 will someday post the Gettysburg Address on this blog by simply placing the name “Roger Goodell” where “civil War’ is written, and “Bill Belichick” where “God” is placed.

  42. That’s funny! Especially considering Brandon Meriweathers’hit on Todd Heap was the poster play that started all this hitting with the helmet stuff!!

  43. williamshatnerstoupee says:
    August 21, 2018 at 6:07 pm
    “The difference is they don’t cry like a 2 year old that dropped their ice cream cone in the sand when the get a bad call” Let me introduce you to tylaw.

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    We tried to trade him in the off-season….

  44. David Jennings says:
    August 21, 2018 at 6:23 pm
    That’s funny! Especially considering Brandon Meriweathers’hit on Todd Heap was the poster play that started all this hitting with the helmet stuff!!

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    As I recall Belichick was not happy with Meriweather at the time.

  45. The Truth says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:43 pm
    And other teams DON’T ? News for ya Mr. Perfect i was taught heads up in college in 1973. I like him better when he doesn’t talk

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    Excuse me Mr. 1973, but can you quote the part where he mentions “other teams”? I can’t seem to find it.

  46. tylawspick6 says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:40 pm
    Won’t matter. Goodell already has orders to bag some games via the refs this year.

    Two games, if not 4, will be these:

    1. Vs Houston
    2. A Jax
    3. @ Teen
    4 @ Pitt
    ________
    Who is Ajax & Teen?

  47. Planting the seed to the league and the refs (we already do that). Less flags. Oooh, he’s crafty.

  48. “If your head gets big enough, nobody is allowed to tackle you at all.” — Peyton Manning

  49. David Jennings says:
    August 21, 2018 at 6:23 pm
    That’s funny! Especially considering Brandon Meriweathers’hit on Todd Heap was the poster play that started all this hitting with the helmet stuff!!
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    Sure, that hit. by a Patriot player caused the rules to be changed. Like no one ever hit anyone like that ever before. “Trigger warning” It’s fascinating how many times long standing rules are changed once a Patriot player or the team itself is involved. Jets tape Pats, nothin. Colts footballs equally deflated, nothin. Shula floods the field nuthin. Steelers deflate balls twice, nuthin. Eli sells fake merch, nuthin. Peyton orders in PED’s under the guise that they are for his wife, sends goons to clinic to wipe up any evidence, nuthin. Rodgers admits to overinflating footballs, nuthin. Edelman is knocked silly with a blatant hit to the head in the SB, nuthin. Jack Tatum paralyzes Stingley with a cheap shot in a preseason game, nuthin. No evidence that a player was involved, sure , four game suspension, a first , a fourth and oh well, let’s throw in a cool million dollar fine too. Patriots line up in a legal formation(according to the league) and totally baffles the opponent. Opponent whines, complains then tries the same thing and can’t line up legally and is penalized. Rule change. Screw all you crybaby whiners who can’t compete with NE’s greatness. Maybe it’s the fact the league has gone above and beyond underhanded means to try and derail them that continues to motivate that organization. If so keep it up. You have only yourselves to blame.

  50. i got no love for BB, but in this, he is 100% correct. Eyes up, head up, wrap up. you do that, you can clink anyone’s ankles together. and i don’t care who you are, i make your ankles touch each other, you are touching the ground. it’s the dirty programs that teach players to lead with the head and to blindly lunge at others. those are also the programs that rely on the injuries of others to succeed.

  51. I dont know if Belichicks motive was genius so much as just concern for his players.
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    LOL! Bill doesn’t give a damn about his players. He won’t pay them, doesnt care about them as a person, appreciation and gratitude are never bestowed. Google comments by past players who said playing for NE was like being in a prison compound and Belichik is the warden.

  52. tylawspick6 says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:48 pm

    Brady would be absolutely nothing without BB
    *************
    Wow, a Pats fan actually admitting the truth? Brady is just a system QB, that’s why he lasted until the end of 6th round. Cassel, Hoyer, Mallett, etc have all proven to be just as, if not better than him, while playing in BB’s system.

    Besides being an offensive mastermind, BB is a known cheater, master manipulator, and we all know that this rule change was snuck in by Bobby Kraft to ensure they don’t suffer another embarrassing loss in a superbowl. The only problem is the Pats won’t make it there again, they won’t win the AFC, and may not even win their division.

  53. imodan says:
    August 21, 2018 at 7:39 pm
    David Jennings says:
    August 21, 2018 at 6:23 pm
    That’s funny! Especially considering Brandon Meriweathers’hit on Todd Heap was the poster play that started all this hitting with the helmet stuff!!
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    Sure, that hit. by a Patriot player caused the rules to be changed. Like no one ever hit anyone like that ever before. “Trigger warning” It’s fascinating how many times long standing rules are changed once a Patriot player or the team itself is involved. Jets tape Pats, nothin. Colts footballs equally deflated, nothin. Shula floods the field nuthin. Steelers deflate balls twice, nuthin. Eli sells fake merch, nuthin. Peyton orders in PED’s under the guise that they are for his wife, sends goons to clinic to wipe up any evidence, nuthin. Rodgers admits to overinflating footballs, nuthin. Edelman is knocked silly with a blatant hit to the head in the SB, nuthin. Jack Tatum paralyzes Stingley with a cheap shot in a preseason game, nuthin. No evidence that a player was involved, sure , four game suspension, a first , a fourth and oh well, let’s throw in a cool million dollar fine too. Patriots line up in a legal formation(according to the league) and totally baffles the opponent. Opponent whines, complains then tries the same thing and can’t line up legally and is penalized. Rule change. Screw all you crybaby whiners who can’t compete with NE’s greatness. Maybe it’s the fact the league has gone above and beyond underhanded means to try and derail them that continues to motivate that organization. If so keep it up. You have only yourselves to blame.

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    Goodell was hired by Woody Johnson. The Jets owner given the task to hand pick the next greased commissioner in Goodell is proof of what has been going on.

    Goodell, the cbeating owners who force him
    to cheat, and the cheating pats hater fanbases as the customers who also want it, are the cheaters. They have no idea how fraudulent they look, how hypocritical it looks and the Jets Robby Andersen still has not been suspended for speeding 105 in a 45 and threatening to secually assault a cop after pleading guilty.

    Why? He is a NY Jet. The league wants more money so badly, everytning channels through New York. Everything.

    You forgot to mention cheating Gomer Manning so obviously lying about HGH and Goodell’s article 46 vanishing in the process, during the framejob of Brady.

    It’s patently unbelievable.

  54. jman967 says:
    August 21, 2018 at 5:05 pm
    “Won’t matter. Goodell already has orders to bag some games via the refs this year.

    Two games, if not 4, will be these:

    1. Vs Houston
    2. A Jax
    3. @ Teen
    4 @ Pitt”

    It’s called a built in excuse and a self fulfilling prophecy. Cherry pick four meaningful games on the Pats schedule. “Guarantee” a bad call if they are not winning and blame Goodell for the bad call that hasn’t happened yet, in the game yet-to-be-played. So if they end up losing you can say “I told you so” and if the win, you’ll just act like you never said a word about it.

    9 13 Rate This

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    nah, i am talking about @ nyj in 2013 or gronk mauled by kuechly on mnf 2013ish level stuff here.

    you know, blatant cheating in front of everyone to the point even pats haters blush with how far goodell will go to do it

    yes, i gaurantee you in one of those key afc games i listed, a phantom helmet call, likely on 3rd down will
    come to help the opponent. guaranteed

  55. Thetruthspeaks says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:45 pm
    Instead Belicheat teaches his players to spear defenseless players laying on the ground with their elbows.

    Sincerely Gronk

    Definition of a crybaby = Patriots fan

    24 57 Rate This

    yes, pats fans asking our team to not be so obviously cheated every year at the behest of jealous, entitled and greedy owners jealous of bob kraft’s success, is really making us “cyrbabies”.

    stop the cheating! that is all pats fans ask

    stop changing rules every year and using goodell for framejobs or insulting fans’ intelligence by changing rules during the game.

    why is it no other fanbase or sports league deals with this?

  56. ““The difference is they don’t cry like a 2 year old that dropped their ice cream cone in the sand when the get a bad call” Let me introduce you to tylaw.”

    Yes yes every fanbase has someone like tylaw. I was referring to the actual players and Belichick. When they lose they always credit the other team for outplaying them and never blame the refs.

  57. they might as well put everyone in sumo fat suits, and let them knock each other down….I have a feeling that might be a lot more entertaining than this years NFL season.

    This ^ wins post of the day IMO

  58. Yes yes every fanbase has someone like tylaw. I was referring to the actual players and Belichick. When they lose they always credit the other team for outplaying them and never blame the refs.

    Except for the time Brady was pouting after a loss and he chased the ref down after the game yelling profanities. Wah wah wah. The ref must have taken Bradys binky

  59. “Why? He is a NY Jet. The league wants more money so badly, everytning channels through New York. Everything.”

    Then why have the Jets and Giants been so bad lately? I know the Jets are going to finally bounce back and win the cupcake AFCE this year, but if what you say is true then they would’ve been good even after Rex left.

  60. Lol…. another Patriots thread & the crowd goes wild!!!!
    I freakin LOVE all the hate….. so many hopeless fans of loser teams just spewing anything they think will be hurtful to Pats fans……YEAH, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT ONE!!! LOL
    ENJOY THE 2018 season& watching the Patriots dominate yet AGAIN….. I know I will!!!
    LETS GO!!!!!

  61. Absolutely love reading up all the sad fans comments as they cry, weep and moan about why the Patriots are stuck in their sad little heads hahaha IN YOUR HEAD, IN YOUR HEAD, BRADY, BRADY, BRADY, BRADY ay ay ay ay!!!

  62. “The difference is they don’t cry like a 2 year old that dropped their ice cream cone in the sand when the get a bad call”

    Clearly you’ve never watched the Pats play. Brady is always throwing his hands towards the refs and crying for a call. Every. Single. Time.

  63. tylawspick6 says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:48 pm

    An up and down, passer rating of 103 Butler was in no way better than Gilmore. No way.

    Do you watch the NFL?

    The coaches and his own teammates lost faith in him and he was a challenge to get mentally prepared for each game all year per Patricia.

    Did you see the CB needy Lions bidding on Butler? No, I didn’t either.

    Good day, clueless wonder.

    Brady would be absolutely nothing without BB and Brady lost SB 42 and SB 46 with subpar performances, especially when plays were there to be made.
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    Literally, everything above is wrong.
    No one said Butler was better than Gilmore. No teammates lost faith in Butler- quite the opposite. Patricia never said anything bad about Butler. It was well reported the Lions went after Butler- they were up against the cap. Bill WAS nothing Head Coach wise before Brady. Brady and Bellichik will always be intertwined, they make each other better. Same as just about every other successful QB. SB42? Bellichik passed on TWO field goal opportunities, and Defense couldn’t hold the lead after Brady put them ahead. SB46? Giants were the better team. Patriots had no business being in that game, and just like last year- Bills absolutely PATHETIC defense had to be dragged to SB46 by Brady and the offense.

  64. Thetruthspeaks
    Aug 21, 2018, 9:39 PM EDT
    Yes yes every fanbase has someone like tylaw. I was referring to the actual players and Belichick. When they lose they always credit the other team for outplaying them and never blame the refs.

    Except for the time Brady was pouting after a loss and he chased the ref down after the game yelling profanities. Wah wah wah. The ref must have taken Bradys binky

    He was talking about after the game when it’s time to talk to the media. Did you even read his comment? I can’t ever recall a time when either Belichick or any Patriots player has ever said anything bad about an opponent. Say all you want about them but that’s one thing you can’t argue. And you’re referring to the MNF game against the Panthers where Gronk was clearly interferred with on the last play of the game and the refs even threw a flag which should have given the Pats an untimed down from the 1. Instead the refs picked up the flag and then ran off the field without explaining to anyone why they decided not to call the penalty. As much as I’m sure you enjoyed that because the Pats lost, even the biggest Patriots hater would agree that a penalty should have been called and the flag should not have been picked up. I don’t blame Brady for getting pissed about that call. They essentially said yes there’s a penalty and we saw it but we’ve decided not to call it and not only that but the game is over and we’re outta here. It’s too bad cause that was a great game

  65. David Jennings says:
    August 21, 2018 at 6:23 pm
    That’s funny! Especially considering Brandon Meriweathers’hit on Todd Heap was the poster play that started all this hitting with the helmet stuff!!
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    I’d rather consider the fact that Belichick sent Meriweather to the locker room after that hit, as in BB ejected him from the game when the refs didn’t. That says more to me than the hit itself. They also traded him after that season. But you keep up with your Pats bashing, it’s entertaining.

  66. JustBlameTrumpOrRussia says:
    August 22, 2018 at 5:45 am
    “The difference is they don’t cry like a 2 year old that dropped their ice cream cone in the sand when the get a bad call”

    Clearly you’ve never watched the Pats play. Brady is always throwing his hands towards the refs and crying for a call. Every. Single. Time.
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    AS OCHO USE TO SAY…..CHILD PLEASE
    As I like to say…..PATS OWN YOU COMPLETELY(& SO MANY LIKE YOU)…..MIND, BODY & SOUL!!!!
    PATS WIN AGAIN!!!!!

  67. boyso3 says:
    August 22, 2018 at 7:13 am
    Thetruthspeaks
    Aug 21, 2018, 9:39 PM EDT
    Yes yes every fanbase has someone like tylaw. I was referring to the actual players and Belichick. When they lose they always credit the other team for outplaying them and never blame the refs.

    Except for the time Brady was pouting after a loss and he chased the ref down after the game yelling profanities. Wah wah wah. The ref must have taken Bradys binky

    He was talking about after the game when it’s time to talk to the media. Did you even read his comment? I can’t ever recall a time when either Belichick or any Patriots player has ever said anything bad about an opponent. Say all you want about them but that’s one thing you can’t argue. And you’re referring to the MNF game against the Panthers where Gronk was clearly interferred with on the last play of the game and the refs even threw a flag which should have given the Pats an untimed down from the 1. Instead the refs picked up the flag and then ran off the field without explaining to anyone why they decided not to call the penalty. As much as I’m sure you enjoyed that because the Pats lost, even the biggest Patriots hater would agree that a penalty should have been called and the flag should not have been picked up. I don’t blame Brady for getting pissed about that call. They essentially said yes there’s a penalty and we saw it but we’ve decided not to call it and not only that but the game is over and we’re outta here. It’s too bad cause that was a great game

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    I dont think thats the incident he is referring to. He specifies that Brady was yelling profanities as being a known fact. In the case you cite no one knows what Brady said other than the obviously likely probability that he was pointing out that they owed him an utimed play, and even then no one knows exactly how he asked whether he simply pleaded or launched a verbal attack as is being implied. But for the ‘truth’ guy he would have to have some documented case (either captured on video or reported by the refs) he has seen in order for his statement to not be simply invented. I would be interested if he could produce anything beyond his own typed narratives that would pass even a simple Google test.

  68. JustBlameTrumpOrRussia says:

    Wow, a Pats fan actually admitting the truth? Brady is just a system QB, that’s why he lasted until the end of 6th round. Cassel, Hoyer, Mallett, etc have all proven to be just as, if not better than him, while playing in BB’s system.

    Besides being an offensive mastermind, BB is a known cheater, master manipulator, and we all know that this rule change was snuck in by Bobby Kraft to ensure they don’t suffer another embarrassing loss in a superbowl. The only problem is the Pats won’t make it there again, they won’t win the AFC, and may not even win their division.

    ========================

    Too bad Belichick is only 18-19 as Pats coach without Brady starting. And 33 of those 37 games were started by QBs who went to a Pro Bowl. And 3 of those non-Brady QBs (Bledsoe, Cassel, Jimmy G) went on to have better seasons AFTER leaving the Pats magical “system”. The other stuff you mentioned is just hot, unverified garbage.

  69. JustBlameTrumpOrRussia says:
    August 22, 2018 at 5:45 am
    “The difference is they don’t cry like a 2 year old that dropped their ice cream cone in the sand when the get a bad call”

    Clearly you’ve never watched the Pats play. Brady is always throwing his hands towards the refs and crying for a call. Every. Single. Time.

    ===============

    He didn’t complain too much when the NFL admitted to changing the catch standards in the Super Bowl which helped Philly, or the illegal formation on the Philly Special or the obvious PI committed against Chris Hogan on the final play of the game. Brady just said, “good game” and went on his way.

  70. Thetruthspeaks says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:45 pm
    Instead Belicheat teaches his players to spear defenseless players laying on the ground with their elbows.

    Sincerely Gronk

    Definition of a crybaby = Patriots fan

    _________

    “Truth” “truth”?

    You keep on using that word. I do not think you know what it means.

  71. owenstancick says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:19 pm
    Preemptive excuse as to why the pats won’t get flags?
    =============================
    This sounds familiar. It’s almost like it’s pulled out whenever it’s clear it’s due to better execution and bitter fans whining when they get stomped.

  72. firerogergoodellnow says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:27 pm
    Pay
    All
    The
    Referees
    In
    Order
    To
    Succeed
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    This sounds familiar. It’s almost like it’s pulled out whenever it’s clear it’s due to better execution and bitter fans whining when they get stomped.

  73. terripet says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:29 pm
    Of course you are now watch the penalty’s the cheaters get
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    This sounds familiar. It’s almost like it’s pulled out whenever it’s clear it’s due to better execution and bitter fans whining when they get stomped.

  74. TruFBFan says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:34 pm
    Ignorant comment. As someone who played – and a physiologist – heads get lowered all the time. It is the natural human response to contact. The key is we learned not to spear. The new rule isn’t about spearing. It’s contrary to how we react, physiologically, to contact.

    I’m sure idiot Pats fans will say different but it’s a BS comment. Even the great god BB can’t affect human nature. Which is why the rule sucks.

    Now, will the NFL call it on the Patriots?

    They’d have to have an actual defense for that.

    Oh. And Eagles won.
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    LOL – 8 pts on a trick play. With no defense.

  75. Thetruthspeaks says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:45 pm
    Instead Belicheat teaches his players to spear defenseless players laying on the ground with their elbows.

    Sincerely Gronk

    Definition of a crybaby = Patriots fan
    =============================
    I guess he missed teaching them to start a fight during pregame warm ups as well. If you aren’t sure just ask Blanton and Williams.

    Crybaby indeed.

  76. jman967 says:
    August 21, 2018 at 5:05 pm
    “Won’t matter. Goodell already has orders to bag some games via the refs this year.

    Two games, if not 4, will be these:

    1. Vs Houston
    2. A Jax
    3. @ Teen
    4 @ Pitt”

    It’s called a built in excuse and a self fulfilling prophecy. Cherry pick four meaningful games on the Pats schedule. “Guarantee” a bad call if they are not winning and blame Goodell for the bad call that hasn’t happened yet, in the game yet-to-be-played. So if they end up losing you can say “I told you so” and if the win, you’ll just act like you never said a word about it.
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    That’s a bit of a stretch. Pats fans (most fans if we’re being honest) will complain about calls afterwards. Before the game or at the beginning of the season ?!?!?! Get real already. We get it you hate Pats fans. Just lead it with it instead of manufacturing wholesale rubbish.

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