Browns react with surprise to the Khalil Mack trade news during Hard Knocks

AP

The Browns might have had interest in trading for Khalil Mack but not that much interest.

The Browns’ reaction to the Bears’ trade for Mack was featured in Hard Knocks on Tuesday night. The team made it clear behind the scenes that they had no interest in giving up the draft picks or the money Chicago paid for the defensive end.

Jackson and tights end coach Greg Seamon were shown watching NFL Network when news broke of the deal.

“They’re going to trade him to the Bears,” Jackson said. “Holy smokes.”

“Oh, really?” Seamon said.

“They’re going to give them two No. 1s. Two No. 1s?! Oh, my gosh. That’s a lot,” Jackson said.

“That is a lot,” Seamon replied. “They better get him signed up for the long haul. I didn’t know they had that much [salary-cap] room.”

“More than $24 million a year,” Jackson said of Mack’s six-year, $141 million extension.

Seamon seemed stunned at the price: “Jesus, that’s quarterback money.”

The Bears gave up two first-round picks, a 2020 third-rounder and a 2019 sixth-rounder in return for Mack, a 2020 second-round choice and and a conditional 2020 fifth-round selection. They then quickly struck the record-setting deal with the 2016 defensive player of the year.

While the Browns, with the most cap space in the league, reportedly inquired with the Raiders about Mack, it’s obvious they never got seriously involved in trade talks.

35 responses to “Browns react with surprise to the Khalil Mack trade news during Hard Knocks

  1. Undoubtedly a game changing talent, I question the tradeoff if talent lost to picks and inability to sign due to cap ramifications.

  2. Undoubtedly a game changing talent, I question the tradeoff if talent lost to picks and inability to sign due to cap ramifications.

  3. That just goes to show how clueless the people running the Browns are. If first round picks are so important to the Browns, how many in the last 7 years are still on their roster & how many of their draft picks have won league wide awards?

  4. Is it just me or do the Browns staff come off like they have no idea what they’re doing? They need a new coach. Jackson had no clue how to handle lackluster effort at practice until Tyrod told him what to do.

  5. All I know is during the 2015-2016 playoffs Von Miller almost single handedly (with some help from a good supporting defense) carried Denver to a championship with noodle arm’d Manning and Brock Osweiler..Along the way beating Roethlisberger, Brady, and Cam Newton.

    Mack couldn’t carry the Raiders past Brock Osweiler…

  6. I wonder why Browns coaches are management are acting like their first round picks are that valuable. It seems like every year they strike out with their first round pick. They have been stunningly bad in drafting players in the first round actually. They also are always seemingly drafting QBs who are on their rookie QB so not sure why they’re even worried about QB money. No decent QB that ever forces his way on the free agent market would chose Cleveland to play in, even if they hit on a first round QB it will be at least 4 years before they would even have to worry about QB money….by then Mack’s gauranteed portion of the deal would be over and the cap would have gone up anyways.

    It’s just a head scratcher why they where shocked at the value of a top 5 overall defender versatile enough to be an all pro at 2 premier defensive positions.

  7. “They’re going to give them two No. 1s. Two No. 1s?! Oh, my gosh. That’s a lot,” Jackson said.

    “That is a lot,” Seamon replied. “They better get him signed up for the long haul. I didn’t know they had that much [salary-cap] room.”

    “More than $24 million a year,” Jackson said of Mack’s six-year, $141 million extension.

    Seamon seemed stunned at the price: “Jesus, that’s quarterback money”
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    Exactly, and when if already paying your franchise QB big money then you can’t make the deal.

    Expect to see more and more of this around the NFL moving forward.

  8. 2 first round picks is too much? You wouldn’t give up 2 players the Browns have drafted in the 1st round for him? The Browns have hit on exactly 1 first round player in a decade…Joe Thomas.

  9. All I know is during the 2015-2016 playoffs Von Miller almost single handedly (with some help from a good supporting defense) carried Denver to a championship with noodle arm’d Manning and Brock Osweiler..Along the way beating Roethlisberger, Brady, and Cam Newton.

    Mack couldn’t carry the Raiders past Brock Osweiler

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    not a bears fan, nor a raiders fan. the broncos also had demarcus ware on the other side, as well as a stout linebacking corps headed by trevathan, who got like 10 to 12 a year from who, oh yea, THE BEARS, as well as a pro bowl secondary. do you even watch games or do you read the uninformed headlines? think of how good the raiders will be without him if thats your argument. every play he is in the qbs face. the raiders playing bad ball has more to do with the lack of health and talent the raiders “franchise” qb really has, not what mack was unable to do. mack won the standoff bc he was willing to sit out games. the raiders are soft and scared so they caved, as usual. how uncomfortable did gruden look trying to play this off as a win for the raiders. they better do more with the two 1st round picks than they have in the past 20 years if they wanna make this a win for them. also, looking around at the o lines in the nfc north, those qbs better watch their back. i just think its not the season yet, so you guys forget how dominant mack truly can be.

  10. Yeah, just looking at the top 10 draft picks from 2000 to 2018. The Browns aren’t the only multiple time high choice team the past 18 years that have struck out. Even guys who have been hits haven’t done anything to push a lot of those teams over the top or even to the top so I get their disbelief in not only handing over those picks but paying that amount of money for one guy who didn’t exactly make the Raider defense feared.

  11. I’ve had enough of this. The fact is Mack is going to change the entire Bears defense for the better, so get over it.

    Money, cap, risking draft picks is all part of the game.

    None of these comments matter all that matters is what starts on Sunday!

  12. That early 2nd is the big deal. It can be a trade off, depending on the deepness of the draft and whose the brains behind the scouting. Odds are , most pro bowlers come from the first 15 picks. Oakland can get 2 pro bowlers but a HOF caliber player? I think not.

    The 6th round pick os fluff. Used to move up a round in mid draft. That’s a lotto pick. No loss.

    It’s really about money. If they spread it out, then they’re smart and have a chance. If they sit on it, then they’re doomed with a poor owner just trying to get by.

    Don’t forget, the Raiders don’t have to be good. They are leaving. They will sell out in Nevada and have to build an 8-8 team to get fans in the building. Not win it all.

    Giants sold out for years on end when they were perpetually 6-8. Jets, not so much. History matters and Oakland will be making new history in Nevada. Look at the Rams and Chargers. Rams have history. Kids who had parents who were Rams’ fans. Yet just down the road was a team that moved into town and might as well move out. Like the Jets. @nd class citizens for life. Just the way it is in NY and will be in LA.

  13. Wait wtf did hue say was too much for whom… the bears trade looks logical compared to the Carson palmer trade he pulled off while coaching the raiders.. keep that bald head out of the sun hue

  14. The only thing obvious is Hue Jackson and his tight end coach were not “in” on what the Raiders and Mack’s agent were asking for. That’s is a good thing.

    What did anyone expect to see on Hard Knocks? A segment that showed John Dorsey walking into Hue Jackson’s office and saying hey the Raiders want 2 #1’s and I decided not to go in that direction?

  15. A first for Mack and trade down the following year to have a two position All Pro on the roster.

    Trubisky is locked up cheap for a few more years. Once it’s time to sign Trubisky the cap wil increase and Mack’s hit on the books will be more manageable.

    Living in Bronco Country every single fan said, “You guys got Khalil! Thank God he’s not in our division anymore. Dude had five sacks in one game against us! (Week 14 in 2015)”. Even saw a Raiders fan at the pool and his comment was, “Great player, you guys won the trade.”

    But yeah, tell me more about what the Browns think.

  16. channer81 says:
    September 5, 2018 at 1:43 am
    All I know is during the 2015-2016 playoffs Von Miller almost single handedly (with some help from a good supporting defense) carried Denver to a championship with noodle arm’d Manning and Brock Osweiler..Along the way beating Roethlisberger, Brady, and Cam Newton.

    Mack couldn’t carry the Raiders past Brock Osweiler…
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    and in 2016 the Broncos made Von Miller the richest defensive player in NFL History, and what have they done since. Even worse they back loaded his deal so much , that he will make more money than Mack each of the next 3 seasons. Ouch!

  17. The bears gave way too much in this deal. Mack is a great player, but to mortgage a teams future for a defensive player might come back to haunt them. The bears must think they have what they need on offense.

  18. As a longtime bears fan I welcome the signing. the bears need to return to being a defensive powerhouse. That is their tradition. The monsters of the midway. Glad to see the Bears, known for being cheap, are finally willing to spend some money to get top quality.

  19. This is the point where the Browns and Bears flip for worst franchise in the NFL. The Bears with no draft choices will be bottom dwellers for years to come.

  20. stylzinc says:
    September 5, 2018 at 1:20 am
    That just goes to show how clueless the people running the Browns are. If first round picks are so important to the Browns, how many in the last 7 years are still on their roster & how many of their draft picks have won league wide awards?
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    There was a USA Today article not too long ago that stated there are more undrafted free agents in the league than 1st and 2nd round picks.

    In other words you don’t make a point since that’s true of literally all 32 teams. The higher the draft pick, the shorter the margin of error since you’re too expensive to keep just for being mediocre.

  21. not a bears fan, nor a raiders fan. the broncos also had demarcus ware on the other side, as well as a stout linebacking corps headed by trevathan, who got like 10 to 12 a year from who, oh yea, THE BEARS, as well as a pro bowl secondary. do you even watch games or do you read the uninformed headlines? think of how good the raiders will be without him if thats your argument. every play he is in the qbs face. so you guys forget how dominant mack truly can be.

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    While basically trashing the Raiders, and reiterating what I already about his supporting cast you’ve unintentionally answered the question WHY the raiders wouldn’t pay Mack in the first place..

    Why spend all that cap on him when you know you don’t have the pieces surrounding him and its going to take time. Even longer when you have less cap space cause to much is going to him not to mention the wear and tear DLineman go through, what’s he going to be when that defense gets up to speed? You do know the Raiders are the oldest team in football right? So why not speed up the process and get younger faster next thing you know if it works out Raider fans will be like, Khalil who??

  22. As a Dolphins fan, I am not a fan of pouring big money into a single player. If you have a QB like Rogers or Brady, sure. But a player who does not play a position where they can take over a game or can not take over a game should be taking up such a huge chunk of the cap. Like the Rams, Miami signed Suh because Tannehill was still on his rookie contract. Then all of the sudden, oh crap, we need to extend Rashard Jones, oh wait, we need to extend Tannehill, we gotta bite the bullet and extend Stills, we have no one to take James Jones place, so we have to pay him his 5th year, damn we can’t give Landry the money he is asking for, so we have to trade him, you know what, Suh’s salary is causing all these cap problems and his production is not matching his salary so we are gonna have to cut him.

  23. Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    As a Dolphins fan, I am not a fan of pouring big money into a single player. If you have a QB like Rogers or Brady, sure. But a player who does not play a position where they can take over a game or can not take over a game should be taking up such a huge chunk of the cap. Like the Rams, Miami signed Suh because Tannehill was still on his rookie contract. Then all of the sudden, oh crap, we need to extend Rashard Jones, oh wait, we need to extend Tannehill, we gotta bite the bullet and extend Stills, we have no one to take James Jones place, so we have to pay him his 5th year, damn we can’t give Landry the money he is asking for, so we have to trade him, you know what, Suh’s salary is causing all these cap problems and his production is not matching his salary so we are gonna have to cut him.

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    Sorry, meant Juan James

  24. It’s amusing reading that Browns and their fandumb think the Bears got rolled LOL!!!! The Browns have won a total one game in two years….bahahahahahahaha!!!!! Yea…the Bears got rolled.

  25. Hue Jackson traded two first round draft picks to the Bengals to bring Carson Palmer out of retirement after Al died. How’d that work out for you, Hue?

  26. channer81 says:
    September 5, 2018 at 1:43 am
    All I know is during the 2015-2016 playoffs Von Miller almost single handedly (with some help from a good supporting defense) carried Denver to a championship with noodle arm’d Manning and Brock Osweiler..Along the way beating Roethlisberger, Brady, and Cam Newton.

    Mack couldn’t carry the Raiders past Brock Osweiler…

    Actually Mack single handily beat Osweiler in one game vs the Broncos with 5 sacks in the 2nd half. Care to speak more of your BS…

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