Pete Carroll: Russell Wilson “needed to do better”

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The new-look Seahawks have been built around their franchise quarterback. On Sunday, their franchise quarterback didn’t play like one. And the team’s head coach was willing to say so publicly on Monday.

“It always goes back to the QB, everyone is going to focus on that,” Pete Carroll told 710 ESPN Seattle on Monday morning, via USA Today. “Russ needed to do better than he did yesterday, but we needed to help him a lot.”

Seattle had multiple chances to win the game or force overtime after Denver took a 27-24 lead with 11:11 to play. But three drives ended with a pair of Russell Wilson sacks and a final-snap interception.

“He got rushed,” Carroll said. “He got hammered. We got sacked six times in the game. It’s going to be hard for him. He was in the midst of some of those and he bailed a couple times and got in trouble. We didn’t protect him as well as we need to throughout.”

Carroll’s candor may have been influenced by the renewed criticism of efforts to coddle Wilson.

“I’m not trying to cover for him at all,” Carroll said. “He can play way better. He could have got us out of some issues early by getting rid of the football a couple times, but things got taken away and he got resourceful like he’s going to do.”

Wilson completed 19 of 33 passes for 298 yards, with three touchdowns and two interceptions. That translates to a passer rating of 92.7, which is far from bad. Not reflected in that calculation is the fact that Wilson absorbed six sacks. He also gained only five yards on the ground.

It gets no easier for the Seahawks on Monday night, when they continue their season-opening road show with a Monday night trip to Chicago for a date with Khalil Mack and company.

50 responses to “Pete Carroll: Russell Wilson “needed to do better”

  1. Not a Seattle hater.. but if Russ isn’t making those crazy “gimmick” or “off schedule” plays that result in 50 yard bombs for tds, or those elusive crazy rushes for first downs.. they struggle.

  2. MVP candidate? Elite quarterback? Not! He is merely a game manager. He is no Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, or Peyton Manning. If he has to throw the ball 30 times a game, his team will be in trouble. He needs a good defense to get into the playoffs. Last year the Seattle D was the worst it has been since Petey took over, and predictably Seattle missed the playoffs.

  3. Last year, Seattle’s o-line sucked. From the game Sunday, I would say that they suck worse this year. From the looks of each play, Denver’s defense must have lined up behind the Seattle o-line. They were in the backfield before the ball got to Wilson. If the right side of the o-line does not get fixed, Wilson will be dead in three games.

  4. I couldn’t have been the only one to see this coming the first time Wilson played less than perfect and loses a game. Carroll’s comments are 100% related to that SI article. It’s almost laughable.

  5. Everyone is blaming Wilson for that loss. Yet no one is asking Sherman, who I believe is the one who started this, why the defense gave up 14 points in the 4th quarter. It’s the 4th, where you win/lose games.

  6. Two words…Germain Ifedi. I can’t believe he’s still there. After last year, there was no way in my mind that he would be a Hawk this year. There has GOT to be a better option than Ifedi.

  7. “but if Russ isn’t making those crazy “gimmick” or “off schedule” plays that result in 50 yard bombs for tds, or those elusive crazy rushes for first downs.. they struggle.”
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    Spot on. I saw some other posts griping about how his scrambling costs them extra yards lost on sacks. But if he threw the ball away every time he had multiple guys in his face they’d go 3-and-out the entire game. Their line looked just as bad this week as they did last season and until that changes he’s going to have to do it all himself. He might as well be drawing the plays up in the dirt.

  8. omeimontis says:
    September 11, 2018 at 6:16 am
    MVP candidate? Elite quarterback? Not! He is merely a game manager. He is no Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, or Peyton Manning. If he has to throw the ball 30 times a game, his team will be in trouble. He needs a good defense to get into the playoffs. Last year the Seattle D was the worst it has been since Petey took over, and predictably Seattle missed the playoffs.

    Tom Brady is the definition of a game manager. Throws shorter and still has a lower completion percentage. Lower TD percentage, fairly equal INT ratio. He plays the safe game and lets his people do the work. Not saying that is bad, but them’s the facts Jack.

    Wilson will be fine. I’d take him over just about anyone in the league from a skills standpoint.

  9. Wilson has NEVER won a road game when the opposing team has scored 25 points or more. Some of that is testimony to what a poor complement of offensive players that genius Schneider has collected. Some of that is Wilson.

  10. ratsfoiledagain says:
    September 11, 2018 at 8:58 am
    Everyone is blaming Wilson for that loss. Yet no one is asking Sherman, who I believe is the one who started this, why the defense gave up 14 points in the 4th quarter. It’s the 4th, where you win/lose games.
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    Maybe that’s because Richard Sherman is in San Francisco. Why would anyone ask him anything further about the Seahawks D? Try to keep up.

  11. TruFBFan says:
    September 11, 2018 at 9:26 a

    Tom Brady is the definition of a game manager. Throws shorter and still has a lower completion percentage. Lower TD percentage, fairly equal INT ratio.

    ———

    So how did Brady lead the league in passes over 40 yards last season?

    And do you realize that Brady is 2nd all time in TD/Int ratio with 491 TDs and 161 Ints?

    Do you even watch football?

  12. “TruFBFan says: September 11, 2018 at 9:26 am Tom Brady is the definition of a game manager. Throws shorter and still has a lower completion percentage. Lower TD percentage, fairly equal INT ratio. He plays the safe game and lets his people do the work. Not saying that is bad, but them’s the facts Jack.”

    Yet another loser-troll bringing up Brady in an article about another team, and posting incorrect “facts.” Obsess much, Jack?

  13. Wilson is almost as overrated as Brady. Wilson started with a stellar defense, which has fallen apart completely. Now he’s forced to run the offense himself and he’s exposed as a very average QB, much like Prescott.

    In Brady’s case, he’s always propped up by BB’s system of paying refs and Roger to make sure every single call goes their way, or is a non-call if it benefits them. Alex G has openly supplied the PEDtriots with PEDs at the “TB12” center and only one of them has been truly tested for it. PEDelman must’ve made somebody up top angry to get suspended, considering they allow the PEDtriots to cheat year in and year out.

  14. Pete, where were you with the red flag when Seahawks recovered a fumble called down by contact? You blamed the other team for rushing the play. You blamed the refs for not looking at you. You blamed the upstairs folk for not getting you the word to you quick enough. And, oh, btw, Broncos scored a TD in that series.

    How about Marshall OPI that was unnecessary (cost 4 points)? How about Jano missing two FG’s (2nd one a do over) wide left? How is Penney working out? What about genius Schotty? How many blown tackles and miscommunications? How is Norton working out as the DC? Keenum is a mediocre QB and he beat you with a blah performance.

    So you throw Wilson under the bus in reaction to the SI hit piece which is a rehash of old news?

    Your act is wearing thin.

  15. Wilson.. overrated?

    Right. Okay.

    Let me know when Tom Brady accounts for all but 1 of the Patriots touchdown in a season, as Russ did last year.

    .. that said, Pete is right here. If Russ had played, even marginally better, the Seahawks win that game.

  16. Wilson has NEVER won a road game when the opposing team has scored 25 points or more. Some of that is testimony to what a poor complement of offensive players that genius Schneider has collected. Some of that is Wilson.
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    Just a guess;

    Most QBs have an awful record in that scenario.

  17. omeimontis says:
    September 11, 2018 at 6:16 am
    MVP candidate? Elite quarterback? Not! He is merely a game manager. He is no Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, or Peyton Manning. If he has to throw the ball 30 times a game, his team will be in trouble. He needs a good defense to get into the playoffs. Last year the Seattle D was the worst it has been since Petey took over, and predictably Seattle missed the playoffs.
    ++++
    Last year was a down year for the Seahawks. Compared to the previous 5-6 years. Wilson and company got the team in position to win games, like all other QBs. It’s not Wilson’s fault the kicker missed three field goals that would have won games to give Seattle a 12-4 record.

    Ironically, Seattle’s new kicker, Janakowski, missed a field goal against Denver. Seattle lost by three.

    You don’t like anything Seattle. That’s fine. Just stop making things up to try and fit your narrative.

  18. omeimontis says:
    September 11, 2018 at 6:16 am
    MVP candidate? Elite quarterback? Not! He is merely a game manager. He is no Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, or Peyton Manning. If he has to throw the ball 30 times a game, his team will be in trouble. He needs a good defense to get into the playoffs. Last year the Seattle D was the worst it has been since Petey took over, and predictably Seattle missed the playoffs.
    ++++
    Last year was a down year for the Seahawks. Compared to the previous 5-6 years. Wilson and company got the team in position to win games, like all other QBs. It’s not Wilson’s fault the kicker missed three field goals that would have won games to give Seattle a 12-4 record.

    Ironically, Seattle’s new kicker, Janakowski, missed a field goal against Denver. Seattle lost by three.

    I’m sure you found fault with Seattle, and blamed Denver, in SB48.

  19. Wilson is really good of course, and it is only the first game but several of those sacks were on him by not changing up counts, holding the ball too long and one by really missing/failure to recognize/read an obvious all out blitz.

  20. JustBlameTrumpOrRussia says:
    September 11, 2018 at 9:45 am
    Wilson is almost as overrated as Brady. Wilson started with a stellar defense, which has fallen apart completely. Now he’s forced to run the offense himself and he’s exposed as a very average QB, much like Prescott.

    In Brady’s case, he’s always propped up by BB’s system of paying refs and Roger to make sure every single call goes their way, or is a non-call if it benefits them. Alex G has openly supplied the PEDtriots with PEDs at the “TB12” center and only one of them has been truly tested for it. PEDelman must’ve made somebody up top angry to get suspended, considering they allow the PEDtriots to cheat year in and year out.
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    It’s OK sunshine, your team is 0-0-1 for a change, so you can get out the safe space and stop making crafts for a while. Suck it up, buttercup

  21. Wilson is 3-22 when the opponent scores 24 or more. Some of this falls on Bevell and his asinine play calling….but this offense needs to get over the hump and put up 30-35 pts per game if they want to win with their average defense.

  22. Being a Seahawk fan, it’s hard to admit this but at no point in that 4th quarter did I have confidence that Wilson would lead a game winning drive late. He is 60% of Aaron Rodgers and 110% of Kirk Cousins.

  23. I think RW gets too much of the blame.
    He has to play the hero because of his O line and maybe his limitations seeing over his O-line.
    It is a team game and his O coord needs to put him in situations to succeed. Part of his game is the sandlot running around and nothing is going to change that.
    However, if Wilson wants to be in the top echelon, consistently elite variety of QBing, he needs to learn to be more disciplined and work the pocket better.
    I am just a casual fan and I cant tell if RW is hurting his O-line by not being where he needs to be or whether his O-line is the problem in all cases.
    My 2 c.

  24. As to Wilson’s play

    If Marshall doesn’t push off and a TD is recorded, the box score for Wilson looks like:
    31 Attempts (vs 33)
    308 Yds (vs 298)
    10.6 Yd/att (vs 9.0)
    4 TD’s (vs 3)
    1 Int (vs 2 with the last 1 just a heave)

    And PR of 123 vs 98. If you just use the actual box score and remove the last throw int, his PR would be 108.

  25. mlhigh says:
    September 11, 2018 at 10:59 am
    Sweet Pete is still coddling Russy. AWwwwwwh.
    +++
    Outside of one year, buying free agents. What has Elway done? I live in Colorado. I listen to the local sports station. FM103 the Fan.

    Elway could drive drunk every night. Kill three people a year, and Bronco fans would still back him.

  26. It’s only week one, but I like where this Seahawk ship is headed. The football world is better when the Seahawks and their bandwagon are doing what they’ll be doing all season:

    GASPING FOR AIR.

  27. omeimontis says:
    MVP candidate? Elite quarterback? Not! He is merely a game manager. He is no Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, or Peyton Manning. If he has to throw the ball 30 times a game, his team will be in trouble. He needs a good defense to get into the playoffs. Last year the Seattle D was the worst it has been since Petey took over, and predictably Seattle missed the playoffs.
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    5 straight years of 10+ wins, 5 straight playoff appearances, 2 Super Bowls and 1 Lombardi that should have been two had it not been for the worst play call in NFL history.

    He’s #2 all-time in passer rating ahead of Brady, Manning and Marino in the regular season, and #9 all-time in the playoffs, ahead of Brady, Aikman, Manning, Favre, etc…

    184 TD passes in his first 6 years, 8-4 in playoff games/Super Bowls, 3,000 career rushing yards, 15 rushing TDs, only player in NFL history to pass for 300 yards and run for 100 yards in a single game…

    184 career TD passes in 6 years (30 per season average. Led NFL in passer rating in 2015. Led NFL in TD passes in 2017…

    1 of only 9 QBs in NFL history to have 3 or more 100+ Passer Rating seasons. The other 8 are Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, And Ben Roethlisberger.

    QBs with multiple seasons of 100+ passer rating & 400+ rushing yards:
    Steve Young, 4x
    Russell Wilson, 3x

    Players with 4,000 yards passing and 500 yards rushing:
    Steve Young
    Russell Wilson
    Wilson was 80 yards short of becoming the only player in NFL HISTORY to do it twice. (2017)

    That’s not just elite, it’s Hall of Fame.

  28. ratsfoiledagain says:
    September 11, 2018 at 12:01 pm

    Outside of one year, buying free agents. What has Elway done? I live in Colorado. I listen to the local sports station. FM103 the Fan.

    Elway could drive drunk every night. Kill three people a year, and Bronco fans would still back him.

    _____________________

    Huh? What does Elway have to do with the article about Wilson and Carroll?

    FYI, Elway has accomplished quite a bit as the Broncos GM. If you wanna talk about buying free agents then I guess Belichick and the Patriots are doing it all wrong.

  29. Wilson has been overrated from day one. He’s not an elite QB. He is a good QB.

    He had the unusual luck to play for a team with a totally dominant defense. He wasn’t called on to carry the team, just make a few big plays here and there. Once that defense began to decline so did Wilson’s success.

  30. “omeimontis says:
    September 11, 2018 at 6:16 am
    MVP candidate? Elite quarterback? Not! He is merely a game manager.”

    Led the league in passing TD’s last year; set a league record for 4th quarter passing TD’s last year.

    He’s basically been the whole show on offense since Lynch left – and has kept the team as contenders as the defense declined. He ain’t the problem.

  31. when are they gonna can carroll he’s useless,.. he blamed the defense, its gone, he blamed the offense,… c’mon,.. when is it you’re fault you don’t know what an oline is for? when is it your fault you don’t coach you’re team you just instigate toxic locker room,… when is it your fault for the things YOU’RE doing…. what a piece of garbage. when is it your fault you pretend the QB is suppose to just make everything up cause you have no idea how to run a pro offense… you got ran out the league last time cause you didn’t have talent to coever up how bad you are as a head coach… guess what you chased the talent you had out. go back to college, oh right you got chased out of college for encouraging use of PED’s,.. like you did with seattle..

  32. “omeimontis says:
    September 11, 2018 at 6:16 am
    MVP candidate? Elite quarterback? Not! He is merely a game manager.”

    Led the league in passing TD’s last year; set a league record for 4th quarter passing TD’s last year.

    He’s basically been the whole show on offense since Lynch left – and has kept the team as contenders as the defense declined. He ain’t the problem.

    they over paid wilson and gutted the defense….

    the year they won the superbowl the defense and special teams scored more than the offense,.. (with lynch who was the offense)… you have a head coach that doesn’t know what the oline is for, and expects a qb to wing everything then blames the oline like it’s a drawn up play, seattle fans are clueless, but they don’t know what a football is anyway, luckily they can go back to forgetting they have a football team.

  33. MVP candidate? Elite quarterback? Not! He is merely a game manager.

    ———

    Look at this guy trying to live in 2012…RW scored every TD last year except for one. Game managers can only dream of doing that.

    Meanwhile, the seahawks lose by 3 points on the road in mile high. Exactly the score that most experts predicted. Without DJ Fluker who was a scratch and could have really helped.

    Von Miller owned Ifedi…anyone surprised about that?

    Didnt think so…

    Trolls enjoy Seattle losing but the score was about like I figured it would be with many things that can be fixed to be better.

    Imagine being a Lion fan today…put things in perspective. 3 point loss on the road with many mistakes in the first game of the year in a brand new system…could be MUCH worse.

    I watched Jimmy G the savior be bad…had a good day myself despite the L.

  34. Why does Wilson put up with that from his head coach? Constantly being thrown under the bus despite being the only reason they still have jobs.

  35. Some people only watch the highlights and make their comments on games. Sure Wilson can throw a 50 yard touchdown, he can make scramble throws at a level him and Rodgers are in a class of their own.

    There are games where he is asleep af the wheel in the first half. This game he was hesitant, held the ball too long and made one really bad throw deep on his side of of the field. The pass rush pressure was only coming from one spot Ifedi/Von Miller and wasnt bad at all 4 other spots unlike recent years. This is maybe only the 2nd time I heard Pete say Russell needs to play better. He is getting laid franchise QB money. Its MVP level play or watch the team struggle.

  36. There’s probably a lot of trolling on this one, but yes, Wilson could’ve done better. Von Miller was waiting on every spin move out of the pocket. I get that Wilson is trying to buy time to throw, but sometimes he just needs to throw the ball away.

  37. Denver has a great defense, and Seattle has a garbage offensive line. Didn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that Denver would beat them in Week 1.

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