Le’Veon Bell still leery about workload

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Non-Steelers Steelers running back Le'Veon Bell hasn’t said much publicly as his contract impasse with the team has reached Defcon 5 (or maybe it’s Defcon 1 . . . whichever is the bad one). He recently spoke privately to former NFL running back Maurice Jones-Drew. Based on Jones-Drew’s explanation of the conversation, it seems fairly obvious that Bell’s stance hasn’t changed much in the last week.

Specifically, Bell continues to be concerned about the possibility that, in what most likely will be his last year with the Steelers, Bell will be overused.

“[Bell] was happy for James Conner after that performance but that performance justifies why he’s not there right now,” Jones-Drew said on the Dave Dameshek Football Program earlier this week. “If you’re going to give James Conner 31 carries, imagine how many you’d give to Le’Veon Bell?”

Bell also told Jones-Drew that there’s nothing personal about an inherently business decision to stay away, avoiding excessive contact with a major payday looming.

“[Bell] said to me, ‘People think that I don’t like Pittsburgh, I don’t like James Conner, I don’t like these guys,'” Jones-Drew said. “He was like, ‘Yes, I was disappointed they went out and spoke about my contract,’ understandably so. He was like, ‘But I still want them to do well, they’re still guys that I work with and guys that I’ve put in this extra work with — blood, sweat and tears like I still want them to do well.'”

That last part is telling. “They’re still guys I work with.” This means that Bell indeed intends to return to work at some point. The only question is whether that comes before or after the Tuesday after Week 10, which represents his final deadline for showing up and playing this season.

Bell for now remains on track to give up $855,000 (gross not net) again this weekend in order to avoid the kind of workload that could result in the kind of injury that keeps him from cashing in. Under that analysis, he has no reason whatsoever to show up before the Tuesday after Week 10.

159 responses to “Le’Veon Bell still leery about workload

  1. His agent is cringing as he reads this. What team is going to break the bank for a running back that doesn’t want the workload of a big time back, yet wants to be paid like one? Ouch!
    I have a feeling LeVeon will be “clarifying” that statement soon.

  2. Good for him. I hope he finds his payday, although I seriously doubt it.
    I do believe RBs are being unfairly devauled when compared to their role on the field. There are some bums who don’t deserve big paydays, but Bell is a real dual threat and should be paid as one. It’s ridiculous that a second-string WR with 3 catches can get twice the money a 30-40 touch player like Bell gets.

  3. Yeah imagine expecting a guy they are paying $14M a year to actually carry the ball 31 times…… Just how many carries per game does Bell think $14M “entitles” the team to ask from him?

  4. Bell is right. The Steelers know that this is their final year with Bell and would have no hesitancy in overloading him. That’s the problem with the CBA as it relates to the franchise tender. The impact is mainly on running backs. The Steelers have zero incentive to protect Bell as a long term asset and they could depreciate the heck out of those legs and knees.

  5. Workload?

    At $850K/game, what do you expect, LB – – – that you’ll be carrying towels and Gatorade around for those who just came out for a breather?

  6. A guy who will avoid doing his job until he’s locked down guaranteed millions is most likely going to avoid doing his job because he’s now set for life and no longer needs to ball out.

    I get that he isn’t under contract, but he seems to want a guaranteed maximum snap count before signing up for $800,000-plus per game.

    Obviously he’s franchised, or will be if and when he signs, but it’s the equivalent of a contract year for his goals of hitting the market hard at the end of the season.

    Would he instead agree to a yardage count? Once he reaches 100 yards from scrimmage or two TDs, he can sit or stay in, his choice?

  7. Wants a raise while being less productive? I think this guy is overplaying his hand here but its his business so he can manage how he likes.

  8. Such primadonnas nowadays. Football is about winning games, not purposely overusing someone to damage them. Everyone’s job is on the line every game: Coaches, players, GMs, you name it. No one game plans around overusing a player because we know he won’t be here next year. It doesn’t make any sense. And FYY, MJD is the worst analyst on NFL network just a step above Peter Schrager.

  9. Bell is a smart guy and he knows the Steelers will run him into the ground and discard him like apiece of meat after the season. True he’s an expensive piece of meat but we all know RB’s have a short shelf life and he’s got one big pay day left in his career. And don’t dismiss the injury factor, he rips up a knee and he becomes worthless next year.

  10. Winners and team players say “hop on my back, i will carry you”
    Winners say “feed me the ball, i will get it done”

    Laveon Bell says “i dont want to work very hard, i dont want to be a leader, i dont want the ball all the time, i dont wang to risk injury like my other 52 teammates are doing”
    “But i want to be the highest paid RB in the game, and by a HUGE margin”

    What team would want to sign this selfish, ME first, cancerous player to their team?
    I think Mr. Bell is going to find himself in the company of Kaepernick and Eric Reid this offseason, and he only has himself to blame. Get him out of the league.

  11. Bottom line: he just doesn’t want to play real football. Views dollar signs over passion and legacy. The state of the union.

  12. It still comes down to money, and who can extract the most, OR keep the most.
    Or share the cap space.
    It is guys like Bell that is why I can’t take my kids to Pro Games any more. It is also why
    The next generation isn’t going to care as much as we do about Football, unless it is the round white one with black spots, that gets kicked into nets.

  13. He is disappointed they spoke about his contract? Maybe they are disappointed you are too greedy and selfish to be part of the team. The 20 million a season you want will never happen. Conner just showed as DeAngelo Williams did a couple years ago that it’s the team/scheme that makes you. Maybe they are disappointed when you get suspended for weed and miss games?

    Sign him, then trade him to Detroit.

  14. Well he has already missed 4 preseason and one regular season game. Never mind practices.

    That’s kind of cutting his workload down.

  15. I hope he stays away. Keyshawn him when he decides to return. It’s going to feel like we burned money in a pit anyway. Is week 10 before or after the trade deadline? I think he’s trying to double screw us. I dont really have much issue with him trying to get his money, but in a salary cap sport, if you’re trying to command that type of salary at that position (any really), then you are essentially saying that you care more about yourself than the teams’ ability to build around you and win championships. it starts to become impossible for teams to do. If that’s what it is, just own it, say it out loud, and go to a team that’s more interested in splash signings and superstar players, where winning is a secondary goal. his goal is to be credited as the guy who sets or resets the RB market. please explain how that’s not selfish.

  16. At the end of this is going to be his only big contract and the RB position gets abused in the NFL. He can’t force Steelers hand but if he can save some wear and tear all the better.

  17. So he wants to be paid like a workhorse and yet doesn’t want to be overused. I don’t think owners are going to be throwing big money at a guy with that attitude. He underestimates how much the owners love punishing guys like that

  18. I agree with Bell for the money, except you’re paid for your workload. There’s a reason why you’re a running back….Can’t complain for too many carry. I wish I could earn that kind of money for a once in a life time.

  19. I want $15 mil a season guaranteed for 4 years, but no more than 150 touches a year. That’s $100,000 per carry. Oh and I get to smoke weed.

    No risk there. He seems to forget next suspension is a year.

  20. I respect his decision. I just think it’s not a good advertisement for free agency. The guy will be 27 when he hits free agency – not a great selling point for a RB. And he sits out most of the previous season and gives up millions of dollars because he’s afraid he’ll be injured? How does a GM process that in terms of giving him a long-term deal with high guarantees? Just my opinion, but I think he’s highlighting how big an injury risk he might be, and almost prompting GM’s to wonder how injured he’s been (3 lower body injuries in 5 years). My advice to him would be play and ‘knock one out of the park’ to best sell yourself in 2019. But he’s taking the opposite approach. It’ll be interesting to see how this turns out when he hits the market next year.

  21. What frustrates me is the week by week mystery. Agree with him or not, K Mack was at least very clear where he stood, basically saying, “I’m not showing up without a new contract”. I think people are frustrated with Bell because he refuses to share his intentions with his team and his teammates. That’s what make this “holdout” different in my mind.

  22. Just imagine if the Steelers had actually split the workload between Bell and Blount instead of pissing off both by only using one and not the other.

    Probably would have cost the Pats a Superbowl and they wouldn’t be in this mess.

  23. Stop reminding us that it’s gross and not net pay. As if giving up $450,000 per week is any less insulting than $855k.

    Also, the Steelers obviously recognize that he’s an incredible talent because they’re willing to pay $5.1mil to make sure he doesn’t play for anyone else this year. That’d be a much more interesting storyline to talk about.. if he waits 10weeks and the Steelers don’t have confidence he won’t be a little b*tch when he plays, would they just pay him to sit on the bench.

  24. His agent (much like Jalen Ramsey’s agent) should be telling him “less is more” when it comes to running your mouth. No one is going to pay you more for doing less. Your team doesn’t believe anything you say now after your bait and switch move of telling them you will be in and then no showing. It says a lot that nearly your whole offensive line spoke out against you. We’ll ride with Connor there Bell. So pack your bags and go give another team that headache the size of your ego.

  25. afifthlombardiforthehaters says:
    September 14, 2018 at 8:27 am
    What’s really crazy is it would take me or any other blue-collar guy 10 to 12 years to make 855000.

    Stop whining and get to work.
    ==============================================
    He’s not any other blue-collar guy. He’s at the very top of his profession in a business that generates billions of dollars. Don’t compare yourself to him. If you walked out of your job to get more money somewhere else, Bell wouldn’t tell you to suck it up and do your job. This isn’t a communist state. We get paid for our talents .

  26. I don’t blame Bell. Teams, if they were lucky enough to get a guy like Bell, will run the crap out of them and then when it comes time to pay them… well, you know how it goes. He knows he’s not going to be playing for ten or fifteen years, especially the way the Steelers run him, so he wants what he’s worth NOW.

  27. Shocked at the hate for Bell. Take a look at DeMarco Murray, perfect example of what overuse does to a back’s chance to sign a long term contract. Went from MVP type player to out of the league. Shelf life of a NFL RB is the shortest of any position in all of sports. While it stinks for fans I’m sure, why risk a career ending injury for a team that isn’t committed to you long term. I know it won’ be the popular view on this thread, but it is a smart personal decision and you would think the Steelers would want what’s best for the players.

  28. Bell is an outstanding back and has some skills few other backs do in this league. However, do the Steelers NEED him to compete and win? Does any team NEED him to compete and win? Or can they still compete and win with a back maybe not as talented as him, and cheaper?

  29. Pittsburgh shouldn’t even waste the money on a partial use player. On the flip side, he should ride out the year instead of coming back later and possibly getting injured.

  30. I love Steeler fans.

    You say it’s the scheme that wins not the running back like they are plug and play. Will you be happy when Connor has 1500 yards and you finish 8-8?

    That scheme you speak of includes Bell knowing who to block on a blitz, and knowing where to be on a screen or shell route.

    Your QB’s best days are behind him. He can’t move. How many hits did he take last week against the Browns? Your offensive line is average. Ben was just throwing the ball up against the Browns.

    What do you think this team is going to look like against teams with good defenses?

    Hate away, but you won’t sniff the playoffs without Bell.

  31. Let’s not lose track of fact that he is scheduled to get paid 14.5 million for this season.
    The Steelers offered him 15.5 million per year for a longer term contract and he turned it down.
    Any franchise, with a smart business model, is not going to pay him the 17 million dollars he is asking.

  32. Let’s see: 2013 Lis Franc sprain; 2013 concussion; 2014 ACL sprain; 2015 MCL tear; 2017 Sports Hernia; 2015 three games (reduced from four) suspension for drugs; 2015 “Cheech & Chong” incident. Now he’s afraid the Steelers will use him “excessively” to win ball games. He had 27.1 touches per game in 2017 while he touched the ball 28.1 times in 2016. Bell was set to earn $14.54 million in 2018. The next highest paid running back will make $10.5 million. Bell’s injury risk per Sports Injury Predictor for 2018 is 57.8%. How many GMs are going to take the chance on paying Bell $17 million per year with a $35 – $40 million guarantee that has to be put in an escrow account if not paid out at signing, a contract that will cripple the team if he is injured? Connors is Bell’s insurance that he will not be overused. Ridiculous situation that has compromised his team and his future earnings.

  33. If he had signed his deal this year before opening day, he’d have been the highest paid RB in the league in 2018, and he’d have made almost $27 M over the last two years. That’s money, pre-taxes, in his pocket and he has free agency in 2019. When folks suggest he has been de-valued I just shake my head.

  34. All it takes is one hit to get injured. He can show up week 16 & still have a career Threatening injury or he can play the whole year & stay healthy only difference he’s loosing 800k every week guaranteed right now.

  35. I’m really good at what I do at work. I’m worried about being being asked to do too much so I’ve asked my boss if I can work 3 hours a week instead of 40.

  36. It’s third and 25 so Tomlin sends in a run play cuz they need to get their monies worth. This workload premise is dumb on so many levels….

  37. I know he’s not the only athlete making bug bucks, but try to get your head around the fact that he’s GIVING UP $855k/game. Factored out to his contract and a normal person’s 40 hour workweek (2080 hours a year) he’s making $6576.92 per hour. Absolutely absurd and he’s giving it up.

  38. ppl aren’t getting this. He’s talking about workload BECAUSE he’s on a tag. He led the league in carries, he is willing to do the work, but only if he’s on a deal. He feels like pittsburgh would just ride him then cut him loose, which they would, if they were smart. For that reason he’s limiting his exposure.

  39. I don’t like it, but I get where Bell is coming from. Bell had over 400 touches in 2017. Every other back in the league was under 350. However you feel about what Bell is doing, there’s no denying that Bell’s work load is significantly more than everyone else at his position.

    Best case situation for Bell is that Conner plays well over enough games so that when Bell returns the coaches lean on both backs rather than just one. It’s best for Conner because he gets experience while keeping some tread on the tire for next year. It helps Bell because it reduces his load going into a contract year. And it helps the Steelers chances of winning a Super Bowl because they will have two backs who are capable of dominating a game.

  40. So Bell has a “carry limit”. Well that explains why he took himself out of the AFCCG after only 6 carries for 20 yards. Apparently he had reached his limit for the season.

  41. Everyday its Drama Drama and more drama. I really would have liked the Steelers to keep LB but it’s looking more and more likely that’s not going to happen. Now there’s complaint’s about being overworked. Hate to say it, but it may be better cutting ties with him this year and not having him run the ball at all. It’s not worth the headache.

  42. getadealdonealready says:
    September 14, 2018 at 8:38 am
    Shocked at the hate for Bell. Take a look at DeMarco Murray, perfect example of what overuse does to a back’s chance to sign a long term contract. Went from MVP type player to out of the league. Shelf life of a NFL RB is the shortest of any position in all of sports. While it stinks for fans I’m sure, why risk a career ending injury for a team that isn’t committed to you long term. I know it won’ be the popular view on this thread, but it is a smart personal decision and you would think the Steelers would want what’s best for the players.
    ——————————————————————

    Re-read your own words then look at it from a business perspective on the Steelers end of it. Why, if you’re a running a football team, would you offer a 26 y/o RB a guaranteed 5 or 6 year deal at 17 million a year, hampering your salary cap for several years to come at a position you yourself claim has the shortest lifespan of any in football. The Steelers already have a very good young back in Conner and, while he may not be Bell, he also is cheap, freeing up money they could spend elsewhere without sacrificing too much of a talent drop at the RB position. IMO, If I was running a team, I wouldn’t cave to his demands either….just sayin’

  43. Right, imagine how many carries Bell would get is a pretty dumb statement. So they’ll give Bell more than 31 carries because he’s expendable? Because he’s better? Conner had 4.35 yards per attempt, Bell only averaged 4.02 over 15 games last season, and only 3.2 in his only game against Cleveland. I imagine Bell would carry the ball less but get more touches with screens. Also, they might share the load a little with Conner and Bell if they actually had both.

  44. He makes a really good point. If you’re not going to offer him security, why would he want to take the risk of injury? Long-term it doesn’t make sense. He doesn’t want to end up like DeMarco Murray.

  45. Man up and play. You’re a RB, you’re suppose to carry/handle the ball. If you’re concerned about the physical nature of football maybe you should think about a different career….making far less money.

  46. Just another self entitled NFL player, they continue to cause more and more fans to [ull away from the NFL

  47. I don’t think people realize what a 400 touch season or two will do to a running back’s career. Not to mention him taking the risk of blowing out his knee (or worse) every time he touches the ball without a long term contract. It was always absurd to expect him to show up for another 425 touch season.

  48. The United States’ DEFCON (short for “defense readiness condition”) scale is a measure of the level of alertness of the nation’s defense forces. The DEFCON scale uses a minimum of 5 (for normal peacetime status) and a maximum of 1 (for situations of global severity, like nuclear war).

  49. $14.54 million dollars= 30 rushing attempts and 5-10 passes thrown his way each game… see James Conner. He’s doing it and making less this season then Bell would make per game. Bell has overpriced himself… see Dez Bryant.

  50. Bell is terrific but he’s not as good as Gurley yet he wants to be paid a lot more than him.

    And the funny thing is even if he only comes back for the last 6 games there’s no guarantee he doesn’t blow out a knee or ankle

  51. .
    By the time Bell returns, the Steelers will have played 5/6 division games including both against the the loathed Ravens. It’s very possible that the AFC North could be decided when Bell reports.

    Pittsburgh has very little room for error this season, as their schedule is daunting.
    .

  52. So say he holds out 10 games loses 8.5m. Steelers were offering 14.5m. He signs a 4 year contact worth 16.5 with another team with a substandard o line. Boy is he going to regret this in the long run.

  53. charliecharger says:
    September 14, 2018 at 7:56 am
    His agent is cringing as he reads this. What team is going to break the bank for a running back that doesn’t want the workload of a big time back, yet wants to be paid like one? Ouch!
    I have a feeling LeVeon will be “clarifying” that statement soon.
    —-
    No Le’veon won’t be clearing anything soon. I sometimes marvel at some poster’s inability to comprehend an article. The only reason Bell has this stance is because the only commitment he has from the Steelers is the one year franchise tag. The Steelers made a business decision to not commit to Bell long term so Bell has made a business decision to preserve his body until next season when another team chooses to commit to him long term. Bell played out every minute of his rookie contract even when he reached a point that he had obviously outplayed the slotted contract. Every team looking at this situation knows it came about due to the franchise tag being applied to the player. Fans always apply their rather narrow understanding of the NFL and act shocked when it proves not to be reality. Kirk Cousins according to fans us not a franchise QB and won’t get a big deal on the free agent market,…Cousins signed the richest per year NFL contract for a QB.

    Russell Wilson is not worth big money QB pay of $20 million per year at the time. Not only is he worth it but it’s likely now below market for his talent. You just don’t pay RBs big money….Gurley signs a huge contract. You don’t draft a running back in the first round!…multiple backs have been drafted in the first round the past 2 years. Maybe…just maybe the lot of you don’t know what you’re talking about? Could that be it?

  54. Golly gee, are they actually going to make me work hard for the $14 MILLION they’d be paying me?

    To heck with this guy. No perspective. He’s already the highest-paid player at his position, and will make more money this year than most people do in a lifetime. And he’s splitting hairs over a few more million over the course of a deal, and a few more carries.

    Disgusting.

  55. You know if Le’veon Bell is so concerned with his workload and getting to many carries a season maybe he should take LESS MONEY to play and share his carries with James Conner. There’s an idea. Your not gonna get less carries and break the bank LE’VEON.

  56. Too many posters can’t see the forest for the trees. He isn’t saying he doesn’t want that workload, he doesn’t want that workload WITH NO LONG TERM GUARANTEES. If the Steelers signed him long term, he’ll run the ball as much as they want. What he doesn’t want is to get injured on a one year deal and miss out on a long term deal entirely.

  57. charliecharger says:
    September 14, 2018 at 7:56 am
    His agent is cringing as he reads this. What team is going to break the bank for a running back that doesn’t want the workload of a big time back, yet wants to be paid like one? Ouch!
    I have a feeling LeVeon will be “clarifying” that statement soon.
    =======

    I would say that you are missing his point, but I think it is more that you are ignoring his point because it doesn’t fit your narrative.

    It’s not that he doesn’t want the workload of a highly paid back, it’s that he wants the workload of a highly paid back that his team knows is an important part of their future as well as their present, and not the workload of an expendable asset that everyone knows is leaving at the end of the year.

    I don’t think he will too concerned about clarifying the statement. He knows that other teams can tell the difference even if you can’t or refuse to.

  58. If he agreed to a reasonable long term deal prior, Bell would not have painted himself into this corner. He wants to change the market for RB’s. Not fit into the market for RB’s. That’s the problem.

    Imagine Bell in 2018 if he had signed prior. Prior does not mean this past off-season, it could mean 2017 too.
    He’d have 3 years remaining on a great deal. He’d be playing for a team he loves that doesn’t want to run him into the ground. He’d also have a solid partner in the backfield, Conner, to help the team help him extend his career.

    The math will be interesting when his career is done. What he would have made if he signed prior, vs what he actually gets.

  59. If the Steelers make the playoffs (and they probably will), then its to their benefit that Bell has only played 6 games.
    He’s fresh, and they saved 8.5MM.

    They really need him for the playoffs. As long as he’s back in form after 6 games, they are happy.

    Bell is out 8.5MM.
    He’s not making that back.
    He is avoiding a serious injury risk for 10 games.
    What are the odds of that?
    It’s not that high. RBs may get dinged up but major injuries aren’t that common.
    He gets paid for a few years then is no longer elite and is over 30.

    What happens if he gets a contract with a few years guaranteed. Will he complain during his third year that he’s being used too much?

    When you are franchise tagged, you are getting paid. Produce and teams will line up to sign you.

  60. “True he’s an expensive piece of meat but we all know RB’s have a short shelf life and he’s got one big pay day left in his career.”

    One of those big paydays is currently passing him by. 14 mil for one year of work! He might only have 2 or 3 productive years left at that position…

  61. FoozieGrooler says:
    September 14, 2018 at 9:51 am
    weepingjebus says:
    “..Millenials…”

    I cringe when I see posts like this.
    So who raised them?
    Right. Your generation.
    ——————————————

    Somebody else’s fault…..that says it all……typical.

  62. I want you to pay me more than any RB in the league, but please don’t use me too much.
    That’s a great way to start negotiations for that big contract Lev.

  63. I understand his thinking, but highly doubt the money he wants will be there from another team. Especially knowing he is one mess up away from a suspension due to his past actions.

  64. @chap6869 says:
    September 14, 2018 at 9:34 am

    I’m not saying I blame the steelers or Bell. I’m just saying “I’m Shocked” by the hate for Bell from Steeler fans. I understand both sides and think it’s a tough situation for both. I guess I would think fans of the franchise would see it’s a tough situation on both sides, and it seems like Conner is more than ready if he can hold on to the ball late in games.

  65. And please, let’s stop the run him into the ground discard him like a piece of meat narrative. His workload has been consistently high through his career. That’s how he’s been used. He’s a true 3 down back. Great runner, great pass catcher, great pass protector. So this isn’t something they just intend to do this year because he won’t sign with them. Secondly they intended to sign him. They’ve franchised twice now, both times to the highest RB number in the league. They’ve offered 3 separate contracts to him that at the time would have made him the highest paid RB in the league by a wide margin. They have not abused him or the situation. What is comes down to is he wants more money than they value him at. So because he wants more money, he is sitting out as long as he can to avoid injury. It’s not about workload, it’s about him. What he wants. He could have his long term deal and his security already, he just wanted more money. So this is the consequence of him deciding to move forward in the direction he wanted.

  66. I dont fault him for wanting a big contract. Who could? However, I cant fault the team either because maybe they feel they can still compete without him. If they dont think they need to pay huge money to a back, why should they? Maybe Bell is worth that money. But he’s only worth it if a team wants to pay him that. In my view, I wouldnt spend the type of money he wants, on a back. in terms of team needs, other positions are far more important to spend big on. Thats just the truth.

  67. You’ve got to love modern day NFL. Where the players want the huge paydays, but don’t want to put in the work to earn them. Thank God it’s almost hockey season. Crosby, Malkin, Kessel, Murray and Letang are much more interesting to watch than the NFL crybabies.

  68. “The only reason Bell has this stance is because the only commitment he has from the Steelers is the one year franchise tag. The Steelers made a business decision to not commit to Bell long term so Bell has made a business decision to preserve his body until next season”

    You are wrong. They made 3 separate business decisions to commit to him long term. He declined all 3 of those offers. He made a business decisions that what he would see on the open market was closer to what he wanted than what the Steelers offered. He then decided to opt out of all team activities until he needed to do preserve himself for his possibly big payday. He made the business decision, not the team. They have committed 26+ million to him for last season and this plus 3 separate contract offers that would have paid him alot. He decided to go this route.

  69. Bell does have a good point Tomlin will run a feature running back into the ground as he has always done. Combine that with Bell being 100 percent gone next season Tomlin would really run him into the ground as there would be concern for his long term viability to the team. Look Bell is being ridiculous over the amount on money that he wants to be paid as no running back is worth that much let alone one with past suspensions and injury issues. Bell is a great running back and all it takes is one desperate team to give him what but on the other hand its an expensive gamble as he’s also losing almost a million dollars a week by not signing that franchise deal.

  70. If he had a contract giving him long term security and a payrate on par with his value, I’m sure that he would be happy to carry the rock 50 times a game if necessary. Currently, he’s on a one year deal and being worried about being run into the ground just prior to trying to secure a long term deal is a legitimate worry.

  71. The real question LB needs to be asking is does he think he can get at least $9M more from another team next year than what the Steelers were offering him on a long term contract this summer because that is what it is going to take to at least break even as a result of him holding out until week 10. That would require at least $80M over 5 years since it was estimated the Steelers offered $70M over 5.

    Then once week 10 rolls around, he will be risking his future payout for only $5M for the remaining 6 games. Could you imagine if he chose that path and then tore an ACL in week 15 or 16? Seems like the wisest choice would have been to take the $70M the Steelers were offering.

    It would be nice to see him in a Green Bay jersey though!

  72. I’ve looked at the board and a lot of you seem to be thinking what I’m thinking, Bell might be overplaying his hand. It may be true, but if not I’ll make call. Bell to either the jets or dolphins next year behind horrible offensive line play. He thinks he’s overworked now….ha….wait until a bottom feeder gets him next year(besides my giants because let’s face we have to draft a qb this upcoming draft, but we have Barkeley right).

  73. Steelers need to rescind the tag. Not to punish him but to free him up from having to report. Or I guess they could tell him that whether he reports or not, they won’t re-tag him (which is kind of obvious at this point) even though he didn’t toll a year.

    Either way, it makes no sense for him to play the last 6 games for the paltry 855K/ game amount. He didn’t want to play the season for that amount, why play 6 games? He’s not in football shape so it behooves no one to make him play when he doesn’t want to.

  74. “I was disappointed they went out and spoke about my contract.” But it’s OK to rap about your contract publicly? I’m a diehard STEELERS fan and I would rather lose without you then win with you at this point. Don’t go away mad.. Just go away.. Like many Steelers players before you who chased the money and went elsewhere. You will soon realize the grass inst any greener..

  75. The Steeler’s are not very smart when it comes to. I have Connor who is only going to get better this is the time to trade him. No less than a 2nd rounder I can think of 5 teams right now that could use his skills. Besides when was the last time the Steelers had 2 picks in the 1st or 2nd round?

  76. What is the purpose of saying the $855k is gross, not net? Are all discussions of salary, signing bonuses, contracts, etc. for players other than Bell going to carry this disclaimer?

  77. Maurice Jones Drew?? He was a guy who was an “almost” great but just barely good runningback. Why do they have bums such as him brokering conversations between player and team??

    Next, Bell is an absolute idiot who is lying; Any moron can see that if he came back now, he’d be splitting time with Conner because of the way Conner has established his game. Bell just want’s to stay away because in his little, weed induced mind, he thinks he’s sticking it to the Steelers. Well, Conner just dismissed that didn’t he?

    Personally, I hope he stays away for another month at least. Because during that time, Management will rescind the franchise tag and then he’ll have no big money to come back to for this year.

    And the image he’s creating for himself by ducking a big work load and being in strip joints will ensure he doesn’t get the contract he’s looking for. He’s an idiot and I’m glad we didn’t give him the big contract. He’s clearly not worthy.

  78. MJD is the worst on NFL Network. I think with all of the former players that are out there could there be one with less personality or more bias?

    He is not doing Bell any favors anytime I hear him speak.

  79. “It is guys like Bell that is why I can’t take my kids to Pro Games anymore”.

    Wrong. The reason that you cannot take your children is because you don’t earn enough money. That’s a you problem.

    The ticket prices will remain the same regardless of what Bell is paid. Bell’s salary will not change the total available to spend per the salary cap.

  80. You’ve got to be a fool to tell Bell to “man up” and take the risk of 400-plus touches w/o long-term security. Obviously, he is no fool and understands that he touches the ball more than anyone else on offense and should be paid as such. It’s not selfish, just good business in a league that’s predicated on business.

  81. bkinacti0n says:
    September 14, 2018 at 9:45 am
    The United States’ DEFCON (short for “defense readiness condition”) scale is a measure of the level of alertness of the nation’s defense forces. The DEFCON scale uses a minimum of 5 (for normal peacetime status) and a maximum of 1 (for situations of global severity, like nuclear war).
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    In Football it means Defensive Confidence. So when Bell is out there is a much higher level of Defensive Confidence. I think thats what he meant.

  82. the steelers have offered him a 4 or 5 year contract worth about 12.5/yr (taking him into his 30s)…at least twice…and he rejected it trying to get more.
    so if you’re here to defend his right to do this because the team hasnt committed to him long term, you’re just wrong. they’ve tried, but he wants MORE MONEY, which is prerogative, but it doesnt fit the organization.

  83. “If you’re going to give James Conner 31 carries, imagine how many you’d give to Le’Veon Bell?”

    I think that’s a stupid question. Since Bell is going to be gone next year why all of a sudden would they put Conner on the bench and give Bell more touches and Conner none? That’s a stupid suggestion. If anything, Bell will likely get less touches because Conner will be the workhorse next year. Then I’m sure Bell will complain about not getting enough touches so he can persuade some team to park a Brinks truck in his driveway.

    I did some checking. Last year he played 15 games and had 406 touches. That’s ~23.5 touches per game. Some games, close games, he got more than that and some games he got less. Does he want to be on a “pitch count” and when they need him he’ll say “Sorry, I’ve already touched the ball twenty times, I’m not going back in”? Frankly, if he’s that concerned about his body then he should just retire. He won’t do that because all he’s interested in now is the money.

    If I were a team interested in signing him I’d be very leery about his motivation. Is he going to feign an injury when he feels he’s touched the ball enough in a game? Is he going to be more concerned about not getting hurt? To get the kind of money he wants he’s going to go to a bad team. Let’s see how his production is when he’s on a bad team and not one loaded with talent. I understand he wants his money but I think the way he has approached it this year was a bad decision. I feel sorry for whatever team gives him a ton of money.

  84. hyperalgesia says:
    September 14, 2018 at 8:41 am
    He will be a stud back with fresh legs in week 10. If Steelers play their cards right they could be in a better position for the playoffs with the LVB plan.

    Ummmm, they TIED the Browns this week. They need weeks 2-9 to be better or this fool won’t help one bit.

  85. workload????? who doesnt want the ball? big boys making big bucks embrace it. And its not like hes making chump change under the tag. He’s acting like he should be getting paid what he wants in the future, that doesnt exist. I think his career is over.

  86. LeVeon Bell is being a HUGGGGGE BABY . Overused? The Steelers are paying this man 14.5$ MILLION DOLLARS FOR 1 FREAKING YEAR on the franchise tag, at 14.5 million they should be able to use the man as much as they want that is why they’re paying him 14.5M Dollars. Bell’s acting as if he is some special case, he’s not. It’s amazing that both Elite All-Pro RB’s David Johnson ( who’s just as good a runner but a better WR than Le’veon is w/ DJ having the ability to consistently line up out wide or in the slot and constantly win against CB’s in both single and double coverage, DJ is both a truly elite #2 caliber WR and route runner) & Todd Gurley (who might be a better runner than Bell) were able to BOTH get long term deals done with their teams that re-set the market, gave them the guaranteed money they’re looking for and pays them both as a RB/WR, especially DJ’s deal. They were able to that because they were REALISTIC, Johnson signed a shorter 3yr deal allowing him @ 12.7M per year with 31M Guaranteed over 3yrs allowing him to sign another deal sooner. Bell could of signed a similar deal that would of made him a free agent at 30yrs old, but the QB wants an unrealistic $17-$18M per year with a crazy unrealistic amount guaranteed. Bell needs to be realistic.

  87. Watching this situation, I get the same feeling that I had watching Farve play the Packers to get what he wanted. Now we will see if Bell turns into a little vindictive baby like Farve did after he left.

  88. The guy is 27 (or soon to be.) He has been suspended a couple of times and hurt enough to miss games a couple of times. Now he may be giving up $8.5 million to “save” himself for the next opportunity. I learned long ago that the world has more foolish people in it than one might think, but it is asking a lot to believe there are multiple organizations that are going to be willing to pay him what he will need to be paid to make up for the $8.5 million and the money that the Steelers originally offered. He is a wonderful player, but he may not be that wonderful in the eyes of those who are waiting to sign him next March. But we’ll see.

  89. 1) Steelers ARE NOT PAYING HIM ANYTHING.. He has not signed his contract
    2) He is looking out for his long term security. Since when is that a problem?

    The man feels he is worth more that the $14M the Steelers offered him. The Steelers knew this was a possibility and they STILL tagged him. They put themselves in this position.

  90. From a purely cost/benefit analysis, Bell must earn more than $8.55M guaranteed on his new contract over and above his current contract in order to make a 10 week holdout financially beneficial. Given than he wants $17M and he can currently earn $14M by showing up–he would have to have a team offer him $17M guaranteed over 3 years just to break even. In order to benefit, he would either have to get a higher offer or a longer term contract guaranteed at $17M. Tough to see that happening.

  91. kingfish13 says:
    September 14, 2018 at 10:14 am
    FoozieGrooler says:
    September 14, 2018 at 9:51 am
    weepingjebus says:
    “..Millenials…”

    I cringe when I see posts like this.
    So who raised them?
    Right. Your generation.
    ——————————————

    Somebody else’s fault…..that says it all……typical.
    —–

    Yes- why should parents have any responsibility for how their kids turn out?

  92. It is pretty obvious that he is preparing for a future outside of Pittsburgh. If the Steelers had any desire to give him a long term deal, Bell has destroyed it with his behavior. He just wants to get paid, and he does not care about his team making the playoffs or going to the Super Bowl.

  93. I fully support his right to do this, though I think he is over reaching.

    I hope for his sake he doesn’t get it into his head that whatever contract he signs with what ever team he goes to is going to have pony up $855K times X games missed to make up for the games he’s sitting out.

    No one in their right mind is going to pay him that money.

  94. ***Watching this situation, I get the same feeling that I had watching Farve play the Packers to get what he wanted. Now we will see if Bell turns into a little vindictive baby like Farve did after he left.***
    _____________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Favre didn’t leave, he was asked to leave.

  95. youngnoizecom says:
    September 14, 2018 at 11:01 am
    You’ve got to be a fool to tell Bell to “man up” and take the risk of 400-plus touches w/o long-term security. Obviously, he is no fool and understands that he touches the ball more than anyone else on offense and should be paid as such. It’s not selfish, just good business in a league that’s predicated on business.
    __________________________________________________
    The players union agreed to this franchise tag option. It is not “manning up”, it is adhering to a collectively bargained agreement.

    Incidentally, how many times does the left tackle touch the ball and thus should that position also “…be paid as such”? Also, the QB and Center touch the ball more on offense.

  96. youngnoizecom says:

    September 14, 2018 at 11:01 am

    You’ve got to be a fool to tell Bell to “man up” and take the risk of 400-plus touches w/o long-term security. Obviously, he is no fool and understands that he touches the ball more than anyone else on offense and should be paid as such. It’s not selfish, just good business in a league that’s predicated on business.
    ———————-
    That’s why you save those millions. I don’t feel sorry for him.

  97. I get that Bell doesn’t want to play on a 1 year deal and that $100 million plus contracts are tantalizing, but Bell should realize that the expected workload is a big part of why the huge contract is available to him. It’s a performance based league. There is a team salary cap. A player that complains about a high workload hardly seems like he wants to play with maximum effort.

  98. Construction worker walks into boss’s office- “Well boss, my contract for this job is over. During the duration, I fulfilled my duties better than anyone else in our industry at the time. I appreciate what I was paid for that job, but in light of my performing above and beyond, I feel I’ve earned the right to be the highest paid in our industry for the job I do. I completely understand that you can’t pay me what I’m asking long term and are prepared to offer me a very well paid temp position which I have and am still currently deliberating. My hesitation on that is you guys knowing I won’t be here after this job and that I may be possibly overtasked. I certainly don’t mind doing my part, but I would be more comfortable accepting the temp position if I could have some sort of guarantee in regards to my workload. Can we make that happen?

    This is essentially what Le’veon Bell is asking the Steelers. Makes sense in that capacity, but all SOME people see is “another spoiled, rich, black athlete complaining about money..’

    Yes I went there, and I had to because some would rather chastise athletes for wanting to be paid their worth before the game and/or team chews them up and spits them out instead of actually thinking about the long term aspect or applying it to real life scenarios.

  99. I get where Bell is coming from, he wants security for his future. It’s a sad day in the world when $14.5 million/yr isn’t enough to secure your future($27 million over 2 years), but I get it… he wants what he thinks is his value.

    The issues I have with Bell’s complaint about the lack of a long term deal.
    1. He was offered a long term deal the last 2 years, he declined
    2. He has injury history as a red flag for guaranteed money
    3. He has suspension history as a red flag for guaranteed money
    4. you can’t demand to be the highest paid worker and to be worked less in the same sentence
    5. An injury can happen on any play. Bridgewater blew his knee up in practice, McFadden hurt his elbow at home.
    6. Without signing the franchise, not only are you losing $855,000 that you won’t be able to make up, but you are risking losing it all if you get injured outside of work… and guess what the steelers can do next year if you can’t get credit this year? Tag again at this years rate.
    7. What’s a future GM learning from this holdout? That you aren’t afraid to sit if you are unhappy with your $$? I think the holdout has added to the red flags on guaranteed money. It appears that Bell will be that guy who gets paid and decides he doesn’t need to Ball anymore. Hence an incentive based contract with lower guarantees.

    Lastly, stop calling for Pitt to rescind… they won’t. It’s a bad business decision at this point. If they rescind they get nothing for him. If they keep him, he is at least trade bait, feed for comp picks, and maybe when he shows he balls out… or maybe he sits.

  100. Bell has lost his hunger and heart to be a dominating running back. He is only focused on guaranteed money. Will the Steelers want him back if he is afraid of getting hurt and not playing with a competitive edge?

  101. Good thing for Bell he took college seriously and has a degree and the brains to get another job making similar money. I am sure he will be running some think tank by the end of the year.

  102. I think that it will all come down to how James Connor plays; if Connor becomes a stud, then other teams will start wondering if Bell is nothing but a system RB; i.e. a player that stars because of the system, not because of his talent. Just as an example – Tom Brady goes down with a torn ACL, in steps Matt Cassell. Everyone was writing off the Patriots, but Cassell was able to get them to an 11-5 record and almost into the playoffs. Next year he was traded off as the next best thing after sliced bread and how did that work out for him? Washed out.

  103. So, its a double sided sword; Connor plays good, teams may shy away from his demands. If Connor doesn’t deliver, then his stock goes up. Its a risky game he’s playing, and it could well blow up in his face.

  104. Ricky Williams too was beat down by the Dave Wanstache regime in Davie.

    A RB running into walls and rarely getting the guarentee money that QBs, WRs, DEs or CBs get….has led to a simple reality. Get your one big pay day, it’s not about the 14mil per, it’s the 40 mil guaranteed that he wants and deserves.

    “Show me the money”

  105. It’s confusing to me that people don’t seem to understand how right Bell is for doing this. Emmitt Smith did this. Demarco Murray was Leveon Bell a few years ago, where is Murray now? The Steelers are notorious for screwing over players during contract talks. What type of organization just screws over a player just because.

  106. I agree with Bell’s thought process as his usage can be used against him. In this day of analytics there will surely be teams that look at Bell’s rushes and down grade him if he eclipses a certain number. Makes sense to me. Of course this does little to satisfy Steeler fan but oh well.

  107. Bell is taking himself out of a job anywhere – at least for the kind of money he wants.

    What GM is going to dump a boatload of money on a player that does this? Bell is a great running back. But teams win Super Bowls with lesser backs.

    The Steelers will let him go – and I think he’s in for a rude awakening on what he’ll be offered from anyone else. He’ll be offered good money, sure – but not what he’s looking for – and perhaps less than he’s getting now.

  108. His actions have already greatly reduced what deal he will get.
    Needs to show up and start collecting checks now.
    Those game checks are bigger than any he may see in future seasons.
    Better save that money, those paydays will be over sooner than later.
    Usually great backs want the ball. Crying about the workload won’t get him any big deal.

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