Key Clay Matthews foul arose from “burping,” not body weight

AP

The NFL now aggressively enforces landing on a quarterback with all or most of a defensive player’s body weight. That controversial new rule did not help decide the Vikings-Packers game.

The Vikings had the ball late, down 29-21. An interception by Packers rookie cornerback Jaire Alexander appeared to seal the victory for Green Bay. But then came a flag, and Packers linebacker Clay Matthews found himself called for roughing the passer.

“When he hit the quarterback, he lifted him and drove him into the ground,” referee Tony Corrente said after the game, in a pool report. “It has nothing to do with the rule of full body weight. . . . He picked the quarterback up and drove him into the ground.”

Some within the league refer to the Matthews maneuver as “burping” the quarterback. It’s irrelevant to the flattening that happens when a defensive player lands on the passer, like Tony Siragusa once did in the playoffs to Rich Gannon. “Burping” happens when the defensive player scoops and drives the quarterback into the turf.

And as Tony Dungy explained during NBC’s Football Night in America, at least Corrente was consistent. He flagged Vikings linebacker Eric Kendricks earlier in the game for a similar hit on Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers.

While none of this will placate the Packers and their fans, it’s one of the basic realities in a league without enough good quarterbacks — and with a strong incentive to keep the ones they have healthy.

149 responses to “Key Clay Matthews foul arose from “burping,” not body weight

  1. The play only “didn’t happen” in the eyes of Packers fans!
    You reap what you sow, Cheeseheads!

    After Rodgers was slammed to the turf last year By Anthony Barr, Packers players, coaches and especially fans whined loudly that QBs need more protection
    Ok….so fouls were called on BOTH teams today!
    Was just bad luck or stupid move Byng clay that his happened so late in the game!

  2. No one watching that game thought Matthews roughed the passer there except the Ref. If the Ref called it correctly then the NFL should put red shirts on QB’s so no one is mistaken about whether you should hit the QB ever or not. I really don’t want to spend the rest of my life thinking every time the QB is hit there is going to be a flag so I can’t be excited. That’s not entertaining. I’m not looking for the QB to be killed and I agree with most of the new protections for QB’s, but if what Matthews did is going to be a penalty moving forward we may as well turn it into Arena football.

  3. Yep any FootBall fan will be throughly disappointed with both of the BS calls. The difference is that the call on the Vikings would have been a first down either way and the call against the Packers was a game ending interception. I watched both tackles a dozen times and can’t find anything illegal about either tackle. Luckily it cost neither team the game. However it should have won 1 team a game. So glad the NFL is marking the game safe.

  4. Play within the rules! Is it that hard? There’s another game next week. Get over it. Do we have to rehash it every day this Week?

  5. The Vikings got called for a very similar roughing the passer penalty earlier in the game. I don’t hear bitching about that.

    By the way, is largely because of Matthew’s precious quarterback getting hurt last year that we now have even more questionable calls being made.

  6. All these rules do is neuter the defenses when 4th quarter comes around.

    Players will be frustrated and it will soon be another self-inflect wound the NFL will have to endure.

  7. Bad calls, missed opportunities, this and that and the other thing, blah, blah, blah….. Bottom line these two teams are both very good. They will be fighting for the top spot in the division. It’s fun to watch, just wish I could have said the same about that game. Ugh

  8. Packer fans are insufferable.

    Their O-line holds on every play, their QB gets the benefit of more ticky tack fouls than anyone, and Clay Matthews has a 10 year history of cheap shots and late hits, yet they are outraged when a correct call somehow causes them to tie a game they deserved to lose.

  9. I hate bitching about the refs but the refs in this game were bad.

    I counted at least 7 really bad calls that affected both teams. GB got the short end of the stick but them’s the breaks I guess. Too bad. GB made at three plays that won the game only to be called back by penalty. MN didn’t make any game winners.

    Now they get to tie…. Ugh.

  10. vikingjack73 says:
    September 16, 2018 at 8:40 pm
    The play only “didn’t happen” in the eyes of Packers fans!
    You reap what you sow, Cheeseheads!

    ————-

    I am far from a Packer fan and that call was horrible

  11. As a Vikings fan I must give the Packers credit for their 6th round punter. Very impressed with him today, he’s a nice weapon for them. Wish the Vikings would have used their 5th on him rather than Carlson.

  12. Princess Fabio is so used to getting his way and never being called for anything I have to admit I laughed watching his reaction. Although to be clear, I agree, this is a very neutered version of football we are following at this point, and that would not have ever been considered anything close to a penalty in traditional American football. It’s almost like the Europeans took over the competition committee or something. We need an independent investigation by a special prosecutor into this.

  13. It doesn’t matter if you agree or if you think it’s not a penalty. Under the new rules, it is. It was applied correctly. Lame? Sure. But the owners have decided $28-30 million QB’s will be protected. You same people that are crying were crying when Rodgers was knocked out last year. Well, he is protected more now, just like all QB’s.

  14. What Clay did was looked a lot worse than Kendrick….they had to throw the flag. That said, fix the rule or it will cost the NFL viewers. Vikings tied due to special team play (a blocked punt and three wide right FGs) not anything the Refs did. In any case, a defining comeback for Cousins who proved himself a top tier QB to any objective viewer more importantly to his team. That will pay big dividends down the road. Pack doesn’t scare anyone, Saints and Philly already have a loss, LA hasn’t played anyone yet. SKOL Vikings….

  15. Looked at the play several times. QB left his feet prior to contact. Packers will probably get a “I am Sorry” letter from the league.

  16. yessams says:
    September 16, 2018 at 9:06 pm
    Looked at the play several times. QB left his feet prior to contact. Packers will probably get a “I am Sorry” letter from the league.
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    Not only that, but they will likely be repaid 10 fold in a future game after this new Aaron Rodgers rule was called against the packers.
    I mean God forbid.

  17. As usual, the Barneys are so far off base on what happened today, it’s not even funny.

    The Roughing the QB rule that was called against Matthews wasn’t even the new rule that has to do with landing on the QB with all or most of your body weight.
    It was the act of driving the QB into the ground and it’s been on the books for several years. (Even though it was erroneously called today)
    So please, stop with the, you reap what you sow, talk.

    Secondly, this new rule (Body Weight Roughing) is not the Aaron Rodgers rule, it should actually be called the Anthony Barr rule because he was the one that instigated it last season.
    He took a legal, but unnecessary shot at the Packers QB and he got the exact result he was looking for. An injury to Rodgers.

    Aaron Rodgers, nor the Packers, no, not even the fans petitioned the league to have this new rule implemented.
    So stop trying to throw shade at any of the above individuals.
    You’re embarrassing yourselves.

    The NFL, like it or not, realized that some defensive players were going to take unnecessary opportunities to injure QBs in this manner and took what they felt were appropriate steps to dissuade it.
    You want to blame someone for this mess, put the blame where it belongs.
    Squarely at the feet of Anthony Barr.

  18. Is it any wonder that ratings for the NFL continue to plummet. Who seriously is interested in committing to a three hour game decided by THAT penalty call? Between the PI calls and the red shirting of the QB’s, the league has become unwatchable.

  19. It’s a lose lose for defenders nowadays. Can’t tackle them by “driving” them to the ground, can’t take them off their feet because it’s considered “burping”, can hit them low, can’t put your body weight on them, can’t shove them…it’s like they’re supposed to magically know what the QB is going to do.

    I don’t care if the ref called it consistently. Two wrongs doesn’t make a right. The NFL needs to clearly define HOW defenders are supposed to tackle defenders.

    NFL needs to review EVERY single QB hit and tackle then label it as ‘right’ or ‘wrong’. And if it was wrong, explain why it was (or wasn’t) flagged then provide some sort of discipline to the refs who didn’t call it. There can’t be anymore judgment calls. I know the NFL is trying to protect their highest paid players and it sucks as fans to see 2nd or 3rd string QBs play but that’s better than seeing games either decided or influenced by flags.

  20. cheeseisfattening says:
    September 16, 2018 at 9:00 pm
    Has anybody heard from free or stella. Can somebody check on them to make sure they are ok?

    ////////////////////

    After just about guaranteeing victory by the packers or saying a hurt Rodgers is 1000x better than Cousins, I wouldn’t show my face either.

  21. lol yeah right!! “Packers lost on a refs call!!!” The Packers we’re outplayed both sides of the ball! Offense and defense!! We had the same call the Packers had! The Vikings lost becuz the kicker missed some field goals! If our kicker made those kicks you packer fans would be still whining

  22. So, what the NFL is saying is they will have excuses for every terrible call from now on? This hitting the quarterback rule is going to be as controversial as the catch rule. Bad call, period.

  23. I’m tired of the supposed calls when the def player, any player if full speed and expected to what stop dead because the qb let the ball go at the last mintute. Please, this is bs. You got to let them play football. You hold on to the ball unti the last minute you get what you get.

  24. It’s disappointing. Matthews gets to the qb split-second late and hit the QB while he was starting his follow through. and brought him to the ground. and carefully kept his weight hovering above him. Corrente seemed to think about it before casually dropping the flag.

    In the first half Mike Daniels stopped his rush and let up when Cousins pulled a ball fake down and escaped to his left. And completed a pass. Mike Daniels never lets up. I hate that football players have to think this much while playing a game full speed.

    Take the cheap hits out of the game, yes . Keep people from leading with their heads and using the helmet to deliver blows, absolutely.
    But ties should go to the defense and keep your hankies in your pockets inside two minutes unless you are sure.

  25. The officiating was terrible….a Viking fan cannot even debate that. They missed 4 blatant PI calls in the first half(two on the same drive). The Vikings play-by-play guy had to actually say we got away with one…no two on that drive. Graham goes for 40 and then they call Davante with a push-off in a span of 3 plays. Completely changed the game. The fact that they called a hold on Graham’s TD was a joke when Daniels and Wilkerson were held every single down. The explanation after the game by the official on the Matthews hit was a cop-out. Everyone saw the play. Rodgers was getting drilled after almost every pass and they called it one time. Rhodes is a good corner but if you’re at the game in person he holds every single play. Vikings should be very thankful they got a tie because the home team did not get the calls.

  26. wafflestomp says:
    September 16, 2018 at 9:18

    You want to blame someone for this mess, put the blame where it belongs.
    Squarely at the feet of Anthony Barr

    /////////////////

    I agree with everything you said except for this last sentence. If Rodgers did not stick his arm out to break his fall, nothing would have happened. The packers would have gone on and won the Super Bowl. Growing up in Minnesota you slip a lot on the ice. If you fall you roll your shoulder and land on that, it’s ingrained in your brain kinda like steering into the slide. Don’t blame Barr, but that’s what green and yellow will continue to do.

  27. I really don’t want to spend the rest of my life thinking every time the QB is hit there is going to be a flag so I can’t be excited
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    This!! I’m so sick of holding my breath after every big play to see if the ref is going to call it back. It’s ruining football. Has been for awhile now.

  28. Earlier in the day during the game, packer fans were claiming a clear dirty hit by Kendricks.
    Oh the humanity…….!!!!!!
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    I’ve read every comment on every packer story today and didn’t see that. The hits were very similar to me and neither should’ve been flagged imo. The one on Mathews was more egregious though because of the timing and turnover it took away.

  29. Packers trolls can cry me a river. Get your toilet paper out and towels out, as your lucky to be 1-0-1. If you were 0-2 the city of Green Bay would be burnt down. Well I think it already is since there isn’t anything there. What is the population of Green Bay anyways?

  30. pkrlvr says:
    September 16, 2018 at 9:39 pm
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    I’ve read every comment on every packer story today and didn’t see that.

    pack13queens0 says:
    September 16, 2018 at 2:29 pm
    Wish Kendricks would have been ejected for that Premeditated Assault and Intent to Injure. Goodell won’t allow his beloved Vikings players to be thrown out though, dirtiest team in the NFL.
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    And there it is……..

  31. Idk why all the gb-bandwagon are upset. After all, your beloved aaron gave birth to it last season. Hence, the rodgers rule.

  32. While I think both roughing calls were crap, the refs absolutely made up for the one on Rodgers when they failed to call the obvious PI on Graham, then called a very iffy OPI on Adams (negating a big gain) just a few plays later. We didn’t get any make up calls for the Mathews hit. Unfortunate and I hope that the next meeting between these two teams has a less zealous crew.

  33. Wish Kendricks would have been ejected for that Premeditated Assault and Intent to Injure. Goodell won’t allow his beloved Vikings players to be thrown out though, dirtiest team in the NFL.
    ————————-
    And there it is……..
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    Saw that, assumed it was a Viking fan being sarcastic. If not, yikes.

  34. flviking says:
    September 16, 2018 at 9:36 pm

    Growing up in Minnesota you slip a lot on the ice. If you fall you roll your shoulder and land on that, it’s ingrained in your brain kinda like steering into the slide.

    ++++++

    How often do you slip on the ice a 250 pound person runs into you and hugs you while making sure to land with as much of his weight on you as he can? while being driven forward?

    Next time that happens and you keep your arms tucked in I’ll start paying attention to this line of, ahem, reasoning.

  35. the problem is I bet you can go the the other 15 games this week and see plenty of cases where the same or maybe a little worse play is not penalized. Too subjective a rule for “real time” decision.

  36. Don’t blame Anthony Barr when the play caller takes huge chances by having the QB run out of the pocket on so many plays. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

  37. there isn’t anything there.

    Well, there’s a stadium that didn’t have large pieces falling off before it was finished.

  38. Packers trolls can cry me a river. Get your toilet paper out and towels out, as your lucky to be 1-0-1. If you were 0-2 the city of Green Bay would be burnt down. Well I think it already is since there isn’t anything there. What is the population of Green Bay anyways?
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    Its a shame some of you just can’t talk football and instead need to resort to childish insults and fight picking.

  39. Idk why all the gb-bandwagon are upset. After all, your beloved aaron gave birth to it last season. Hence, the rodgers rule.
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    Strange logic. I’d call it the Barr rule myself.

  40. Don’t blame Barr, but that’s what green and yellow will continue to do.
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    So say that happened today. Mathews takes two steps after Cousins has released the ball, hits him at full speed, doesn’t let up, leaves his feet, doesn’t catch himself, and lands with his full weight on Cousins, knocking him out for the season. You wouldn’t be upset? Especially if we then crowed about it from that day til now?

  41. It’s appropriate the game ended in a tie because it would be impossible to determine which team got screwed more by the refs.

  42. @kmartinson…rodgers looked right at the ref with 10 seconds left at the of the first half an signaled time out, the packers did not have a time out, the ref shook his head an did nothing. to call a time out with none remaining is a delay of game penalty an 10 second run off which would have ended the first half…dont cry on about the refs when green bay got as many benefits as the vikings didn

  43. Football is no longer worth watching. I am ready for a replay for every play with any controversy, and use the computer to make the calls in baseball. I no longer trust the refs, but the truth is I don’t think its an accident. This game in manipulated.

  44. packertruth says:
    September 16, 2018 at 9:57 pm
    flviking says:
    September 16, 2018 at 9:36 pm

    Growing up in Minnesota you slip a lot on the ice. If you fall you roll your shoulder and land on that, it’s ingrained in your brain kinda like steering into the slide.

    ++++++

    How often do you slip on the ice a 250 pound person runs into you and hugs you while making sure to land with as much of his weight on you as he can? while being driven forward?

    Next time that happens and you keep your arms tucked in I’ll start paying attention to this line of, ahem, reasoning

    /////////////////

    Ummmm believe it or not I’m not a professional athlete. What does Rodgers weigh?? I’m sure 200+ he can take a hit from a 250 LB, I couldn’t. All I’m saying is don’t break your fall by sticking out your arm. Now do you understand ahem this line of reasoning?

  45. Can anyone explain what Rogers, the Packers, or their fans had to do with the rules change. Were they in the league meetings. If complaining is all you have to do, then this call should cause a big change too.

  46. mnvikes1961 says:
    September 16, 2018 at 9:58 pm
    After the play- a spark jumped the synapse to the next closest cell behind Clay’s thick-boned protruding skull and he thought, “AArrrgghhh!!”
    ———————————

    LOL!!!!!!!

  47. you know, i actually enjoyed the game. vikings fans were respectful. afterwards there was alot of us looking at each other and shaking our heads and shrugging. but then i come here and all i see is karma this and aaron rodgers rule that. the refs. the holding. just shut up. you need to take a lesson from the classy vikings that were there. you guys that comment here are complete turds.

  48. pkrlvr says:
    September 16, 2018 at 10:11 pm
    Don’t blame Barr, but that’s what green and yellow will continue to do.
    ——–
    So say that happened today. Mathews takes two steps after Cousins has released the ball, hits him at full speed, doesn’t let up, leaves his feet, doesn’t catch himself, and lands with his full weight on Cousins, knocking him out for the season. You wouldn’t be upset? Especially if we then crowed about it from that day til now?
    —————
    You forgot about the death threats to Barr from Packer fans in your story.

  49. Ummmm believe it or not I’m not a professional athlete. What does Rodgers weigh?? I’m sure 200+ he can take a hit from a 250 LB, I couldn’t. All I’m saying is don’t break your fall by sticking out your arm. Now do you understand ahem this line of reasoning?
    +++++++

    Go ahead. stand up. dangle your arms and clasp your hands. now fall forward onto the carpet without bending your knees. How’d that feel?

    Athlete or not, ice-experience or not, that arm is coming up.

  50. It’s unfortunate that the officiating is all we’re talking about because outside of those crappy calls, we really did get to watch one hell of a football game! Cousins looked worth every penny and Rodgers did well on a bum knee against a tough front four. Things could have gone much worse for both teams.

  51. Dirt Mathews is a notoriously dirty player. He earned that foul because he is professional scum who does in fact do dirty plays every time he sets foot on the field.

  52. You forgot about the death threats to Barr from Packer fans in your story.
    ——
    Ahh, did they hurt his feelings?

  53. I want to start by saying that I am not talking about this play. That said…

    This body weight rule is one of the more ridiculous rules that has been put into the NFL. The crazy thing for me is, I can actually look at it from both sides and find it absolutely laughable.

    As a former failed Division I QB, someone sliding on me or putting weight into it didn’t make a difference. Now, if you lifted me put and slammed me. Yeah, that hurt. That said, I have not seen ONE penalty called this season that they wouldn’t have already called a personal foul for before the rule.

    I failed right into being a Division II defensive end and was a darn good one having come out of a read option system in the Big 12. It is impossible to stop in a lot of situations. I watched a call in the Eagles game last week that went against the Falcons (I’m an Eagles fan, so no bias) and there is NO WAY the guy could stop. In fact, he shouldn’t have. The hit happened as the quarterback threw the ball.

    I’m not going to stop watching, but I’ll be honest … people I know that didn’t play the game that are casual watchers have. Our football Sundays which used to be 15-20 people just three years ago is down to 7-10 now. I’m not that unlikeable. LOL.

  54. flviking says:
    September 16, 2018 at 9:36 pm
    wafflestomp says:
    September 16, 2018 at 9:18

    You want to blame someone for this mess, put the blame where it belongs.
    Squarely at the feet of Anthony Barr

    /////////////////

    I agree with everything you said except for this last sentence. If Rodgers did not stick his arm out to break his fall, nothing would have happened. The packers would have gone on and won the Super Bowl. Growing up in Minnesota you slip a lot on the ice. If you fall you roll your shoulder and land on that, it’s ingrained in your brain kinda like steering into the slide. Don’t blame Barr, but that’s what green and yellow will continue to do.
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    The silliness of saying “it’s Rodgers fault because he stuck his arm out” is incredible. QB’s put their arms out all of the time to break falls. His other option would to be to pull his arm in and take the impact on his shoulder- which would cause a shoulder injury, especially with 255 lbs coming down on you.

    Everyone who makes this comment should be required to be hit by a 250 lb. lineman and see how much thought they put into their fall.

  55. Pkrlvr! The Packers were outplayed both sides of the ball…. I don’t know what game you were watching?
    The Vikings kicker missed all day long that’s how you stayed in the game.

  56. Pkrlvr! The Packers were outplayed both sides of the ball…. I don’t know what game you were watching?
    ++++++
    The game I watched Green Bay was up 20-7 and your kicker had missed one field goal at the start of the 4th quarter.

    But I forgot special teams play can only be counted when the Vikings perform well. Carry on then.

  57. The Anthony Barr rule doesn’t apply here. Neither does any other considering the fact no rule was actually broken on this play.

  58. Pkrlvr! The Packers were outplayed both sides of the ball…. I don’t know what game you were watching?
    The Vikings kicker missed all day long that’s how you stayed in the game.
    —–
    Wow. You realize the Vikings were losing 20-7 going into the fourth quarter right? And we outrushed you, had more turnovers, better special teams, etc. We really were watching 2 different games…

  59. Just got home. Long drive. What a great game! For a football fan it was something special. It was a great atmosphere with more purple than I’ve ever seen at Lambeau. Well-behaved fans on both sides. It’s a shame the Packers didn’t win when they had the chances, but the same thing can be said of the Vikings. The Vikings didn’t deserve to win and the Packers didn’t deserve to lose. What do you do? Tie.

    The Vikings are good. Very good. Cousins was superb and on-target. When Kevin King was hurt and didn’t return, House was immediately burned twice. That was good coaching. The key play for the Packers was their first possession in overtime. Rodgers attempted a quarterback keeper that would’ve easily gained fifteen yards to the right even if he had run backwards……..but fumbled. A field goal would’ve ended it. Next play……sack. The key play for the Vikings was the missed field goal at the end. That had to shock everybody.

    Leaving the stadium was like exiting a church. Nobody was saying a word. My friends and I wondered who felt worse, Packer fans or Viking fans. We determined it must be Viking fans but only by a margin of 51-49.

    If the Viking are among the NFC elite, and I believe they are, a healthy Packer squad will be right there with them. It’s only the second game. There’s a lot of football left.

  60. “Matthews seems to do everything right here: He doesn’t lead with his helmet. He doesn’t go high. He doesn’t go low. But the ref determined that Matthews drove his body weight into the quarterback, which is a new penalty for the 2018 season.
    (Ironically, it was Anthony Barr’s hit on Aaron Rodgers that convinced the NFL to adopt this rule.)”

  61. “Pkrlvr! The Packers were outplayed both sides of the ball…. I don’t know what game you were watching?
    The Vikings kicker missed all day long that’s how you stayed in the game.”

    The Packers took a 7-0 lead on the blocked punt and then led the entire game, usually by multiple scores, until MN tied it with 31 seconds left. Up to that point the Vikings kicker missed one FG. So not sure where you get “stayed in the game” from – just be happy that we have McCarthy for our coach – no lead is safe.

  62. Didn’t watch the game, saw the play afterward. BS call, ridiculous, as was missed PI against the Vikings on the goal line, and a phantom holding call that called back a TD. Looks like the refs are deliberately influencing the outcome.

  63. “You want to blame someone for this mess, put the blame where it belongs.
    Squarely at the feet of Anthony Barr”

    Umm, no. This exact hitmhas happens to many QBs and bot has and has not resulted in major injury (Romo comes to mind). It wasn’t until it happened to Rodgers they decided something just HAD to be done. This is all on the princess of the Pack that this rule exists.

  64. Like most of you I saw the replay numerous times and I think the reason they called it is, if you look close, Mathews leaves his feat just before he hits the QB. Ditto last weeks call too.
    You cannot launch yourself in the air to hit the qb. They are going to call it all day everyday.

  65. Pkrlvr look at the stats… quit drinking green kook aid!
    Obviously your special teams out performed the Vikes.
    Cousins had 4td’s And over 400 yds to Packers 1 passing td’s…. you didn’t even reach 300yds or even 100yds rushing!! 1 offensive TD!
    1special teams TD’s and a hand full of FG’s.
    Yeah you sure whooped us!!
    You were watching another game….. how many sacks did you get???

  66. conormacleod says:
    September 16, 2018 at 9:03 pm
    It doesn’t matter if you agree or if you think it’s not a penalty. Under the new rules, it is. It was applied correctly. Lame? Sure. But the owners have decided $28-30 million QB’s will be protected. You same people that are crying were crying when Rodgers was knocked out last year. Well, he is protected more now, just like all QB’s.

    ————————————————————————————————————————————————————
    Look anytime a defensive player can bury a QB into the ground and take him out for the season they will because its only a crummy 15 yard penalty. If you play them twice a year, then it their mind its a big deal. Ding dong the star is gone

  67. I watched the Kendricks hit and the Matthews hit several times. They are similar, but Kendriks clearly wraps up with both arms up Rodgers and then you can see him lift his butt up in the air to drive Rodgers into the ground. I would say he has more arm than shoulder, but he is clearly lifting and drivi g him. The Matthews hit clearly shows Matthews actually took one arm off of Cousins and put it on the ground to prevent his weight from coming down on him as they are going to the ground. To my eye, the Kendricks hit was worse, but I would prefer neither be called. You could at least argue that the Kendricks call was a minor make up for the terrible no call for pass interference against Graham, followed by a completely imagined offensive pass interference call against Davante Adams two plays later, and a called back Graham TD on a phantom holding call against Lane Taylor. The refs completely ruined this game today with those four calls.

  68. It was an exciting game to watch and both teams did a lot of things well, and a few things not so well. This call left me feeling about the same as the Fail Mary. That said, neither of them would have mattered if the Pack had put the game(s) away when they had the chance(s). Now we’re on to Washington.

  69. packer fans are so lucky to tie this game and only the fans are complaining here. You got a block punt for a TD. And 3 miss fg’s, two of which were in OT and one those from 35 yards.
    Cousins throws for 425 yards and 4 TD’s. And the packers are held to 5 fg’s by the Vikings defense.

  70. It would’ve been a traveshamockery for the Vikings to get that win with all the bad calls, the far majority against Green Bay (no PI against Graham on the long pass, PI on Adams when he didn’t do anything, holding because the Viking fell down on the TD pass to Graham, the Clay BS call, no PI when Adams was interfered with before the TD drop, multiple early starts from the MN LT). The tie makes it just a travesham. The NFL better quit rigging games before they lose more fans.

  71. The roughing the passer penalties could cancel each other out. I think there was multiple holding penalties not called on both sides. How about when it was either Adams or allison that caught the ball on his knees and Waynes clearly touched him done ,but he got up and ran for another 15. Or lane Taylor false start and Richardson gets called for encroachment. Kept drive alive where packers got a field goal. Packers gifted a touchdown on the blocked punt, 3 missed field goals. Treadwell not catching the ball. Packers should of won big. I will gladly take the tie.

  72. Football is becoming a sport designed by lawyers, managed by marketing executives, and played by people who hate the country where it’s played. So exciting.

  73. What a lot of commentators are missing in this arguement is the fact that the Vikings couldn’t beat a team with a one legged QB. The defence was supposed to be a killer yet a one legged QB led his team to 22 points against it. And as for karma, please, the only karma in this game was your dud of a kicker missing game winners twice.

  74. 250dollarnflowner says:

    September 16, 2018 at 8:41 pm

    I bleed purple, hate the packers. Both Kendricks’ and Matthews’ flags were BS. Both teams deserved to win and both deserved to lose. Weird game.

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    Nice try but the Vikings did not deserve to win that game. Officiating was downright stupid and you know it, packers dominated and deserved the win, that is what’s true.

  75. Packer truth,
    I will have a legitimate discussion with you. First I will admit Rodgers is great, and I was able to watch him play a lot of his college games at Cal. I couldn’t beliieve the Niners passed on him with the 1st pick when he played in their own backyard. What’s ironic is that McCarthy was the Niners OC at the time. Do I feel he has become a little of a prima Donna since college, yes.
    As far as today’s game goes, I thought your defense is improved. I think Jaire is a good CB, with that certain it factor a corner needs. The 6 DB look took a little while for the Vikes to figure out. But Clay Matthews is a liability and will continue to do stupid things to try to make up for this. Your D line is strong, but I felt Vikings O line held up for the most part. They should improve as season progresses.
    On the Viking side, I thought our defense played timid, maybe because they didn’t know how GB was going to attack them, partly because I felt they were afraid to go after Rodgers and get stupid penalties. Too many missed tackles. Offensively, Cousins is who I’d hoped he’d be thus far. They have weapons all around. If the Oline can gel when they get Elflein back, the offense should also get better.
    We can nitpick penalties until we’re blue in the face. PI on Gedeon, yes. But also holding on your Left Tackle, possibly saving a safety. Questionable off PI on Graham, yes. Missed call on down by contact missed by Refs and an extra 20 yards, yes. The 2 horrid roughing the passer calls, I personally feel are going to come into play every week. Do I like it, no. But you can’t say to not call it in the last 2 minutes of the game. As a baseball coach, the only thing I ask of the home plate umpire is be consistent. If it’s a strike in the 1st inning, call it a strike the whole game.
    Ultimately, I feel these are 2 playoff teams, both came out of the game without any significant injuries, except maybe Aviante Collins, ( Zimmer said Cooks isn’t serious). The game didn’t make or break the season as the next matchup will most likely decide the division.

  76. That is a ridiculous description of what happened on the play. I’ve watched it over and over in slow motion and there is no way Matthews lifted him and slammed Cousins into the ground.
    This official is not only incompetent, he’s a liar and needs to be fired.

  77. The officials would be better off not throwing flags and having people mad about missing penalties than to throw flags and have people think they are influencing the outcome of games. Especially since all this gambling is going on.

  78. I hate the call on both Clay and Kendricks. But the refs were consistent. Packers fans want to complain when the NFL put in a stupid rule to protect Rodgers from getting hurt? Can’t have it both ways.

  79. Goodell to owners…”I don’t know why ratings are down”…
    Let’s see, they can’t “play” football anymore and the biggest headlines come from hack that lost his starting job and started pouting on his knee on the sideline….

  80. cornerblitz says:
    September 17, 2018 at 1:54 am
    250dollarnflowner says:

    September 16, 2018 at 8:41 pm

    I bleed purple, hate the packers. Both Kendricks’ and Matthews’ flags were BS. Both teams deserved to win and both deserved to lose. Weird game.

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    Nice try but the Vikings did not deserve to win that game. Officiating was downright stupid and you know it, packers dominated and deserved the win, that is what’s true.

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    It was a horrible call but I don’t know what game you were watching if you think “the Packers dominated”

  81. shlort says:
    September 17, 2018 at 7:43 am
    The officials would be better off not throwing flags and having people mad about missing penalties than to throw flags and have people think they are influencing the outcome of games. Especially since all this gambling is going on.
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    Only if they want to lose their jobs. The officials are following the rules. The rules the 32 owners put in place. The owners that pay $28 and $30 million to these QB’s yesterday. If you’re mad today, you’re mad at the 32 owners. Or maybe you should be made at Coach Mac, who called passing plays with less than 2 minutes to go instead of forcing the Vikings to use their timeouts and running out the clock.

  82. nyneal says:
    September 17, 2018 at 7:31 am
    That is a ridiculous description of what happened on the play. I’ve watched it over and over in slow motion
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    Well, maybe the owners should make a new rule that the game is played over and over again in slow motion so the officials can make the call you want to be made.

    Look, last year and every other year, that isn’t a penalty. This year it is. The game was called mostly even. Since the Vikings actually had more penalties than the Packers, including a roughing call that resulted in a Packers field goal, and a holding call that eliminated Smith’s INT, I simply don’t see how the Packers have a complaint against the officiating. Games are never won or lost on a single play. But, I’ve never read more whining about officials on PFT than I have from Packers fans after that game yesterday. They need an excuse. Last year, they cried Rodgers “dirty hit” injury ruined a SB run. I guess this year, it’s penalties.

  83. dinkydonkey says:
    September 17, 2018 at 1:41 am
    What a lot of commentators are missing in this arguement is the fact that the Vikings couldn’t beat a team with a one legged QB.
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    Silliness. He was hardly one legged when he was sprinting for a first down. He definitely moved better than I thought he would. And, until the 4th quarter, the Packers had a really good game plan. Clearly Rodgers was not 100% though, based upon those many field goals. But Cousins was the better QB yesterday, and it wasn’t even close.

    The Packers played at home, which is always a 3 point advantage. These teams are pretty close, with Rodgers helping out your team, obviously. But, the game was a tie because a kicker missed 3 very makable FG’s. Like Coach Zim said; “you figure a guys gonna do his job”.

    I look forward to the rematch in Minnesota. At this point in time, I still give the nod to the Vikings to win the division. And clearly, the Lions and Bears won’t be close to the playoffs. So, back to the two team race.

  84. calivike says:
    September 17, 2018 at 2:17 am

    Ultimately, I feel these are 2 playoff teams, both came out of the game without any significant injuries, except maybe Aviante Collins, ( Zimmer said Cooks isn’t serious). The game didn’t make or break the season as the next matchup will most likely decide the division.

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    Aviante is on IR, and thus, didn’t play.

  85. Secondly, this new rule (Body Weight Roughing) is not the Aaron Rodgers rule, it should actually be called the Anthony Barr rule because he was the one that instigated it last season.
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    When Pollard hit Brady’s knee the new rule passed through out the league was referred to as the Brady rule about not hitting QBs low. When Barr hit Rodgers the new rule that was passed through out the league is know as the Rodgers rule. Except in Green Bay where they refuse to admit that and even want to call it the Barr rule, like the Brady rule is called the Pollard rule. huh? Because yeah they are that arrogant and obnoxious in Green Bay.

  86. I’m pretty sure Matthews is as dumb as they make him look in the insurance commercials. When you make a career out of playing out of control and taking cheap shots (cough cough, last week against Chicago), well, this is what you get.

  87. connormacleod, perhaps you should learn to comprehend written word before you offer a rebuttal. My comment was in no way partisan, nor was my opinion designed to offer anything other than what anyone could see as obvious. I dont care if the scenario played out in the jags/Pats game or the Giants/Cowboys game. In the end, the call determined the outcome of the game and the call was terrible. The officiating should never skew the outcome of any game.

  88. Or maybe you should be made at Coach Mac, who called passing plays with less than 2 minutes to go instead of forcing the Vikings to use their timeouts and running out the clock.
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    I applaud him for that series. Keep punching. If not for a Davante Adams drop, it would have worked.

    Usually, McCarthy plays tight and conservative. And he finds ways to lose.

    He tried something different, sadly, the result was the same.

  89. When Pollard hit Brady’s knee the new rule passed through out the league was referred to as the Brady rule about not hitting QBs low.
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    Should have been instituted 3 years earlier when Carson Palmer got Kimo’d.

  90. But, I’ve never read more whining about officials on PFT than I have from Packers fans after that game yesterday. They need an excuse. Last year, they cried Rodgers “dirty hit” injury ruined a SB run. I guess this year, it’s penalties.
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    You’re giving them too much credit.

    Anyone who watches this Packers team and says ‘Super Bowl’ is clearly and NFL “owner”…

  91. How about a call on Harrison Smith for his forearm shiver to the back of Adams’ head in the end zone? I guess you can’t hit a defenseless player, but you CAN clock him in the back of the head. Harrison Smith is a dirty player.

  92. the no more hitting below the knee was cause Brady got hit there and was out for the season now you cant put no weight on the QB is because Aaron Rodgers couldnt just accpet a seperated shoulder..he had to whine about Anthony Barr saying that was so mean of him…well everyone got the message Aaron now look its just getting worse im glad it cost you guys a win since your the one who cried about ..you couldnt just walk away and rehab.you had to go out crying .

  93. But Cousins was the better QB yesterday, and it wasn’t even close.

    Not exactly. If Rodgers had been given the time Cousins got, it would have been skewed the other way. The Packers’ pass rush isn’t anywhere near as explosive as the Vikings’, and yet Rodgers threw for almost 300 yards. The difference on defense was that Minnesota had basically no running game.

  94. Also, if they want to protect the QB maybe they should tell teams getting better oline.

    Call more holding penalty’s, less PI on the D, and more PI on the O…. because then you’d save the QB as it would lesson the likely hood for QB’s throwing 40 times a game.

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