NFL, NFLPA reviewing whether Patrick Chung played with a concussion

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Patriots safety Patrick Chung left Sunday’s game after taking a hit in the second quarter, then returned to the game, only to come out of the game for good at halftime. The Patriots announced that Chung had a concussion.

But did he suffer the concussion before he left the game the first time? If so, he should have been pulled from the game immediately, and his return to the game violated league policies. The league and the players’ union are looking into the matter.

“A joint review by the NFL and NFLPA of the application of the Concussion Protocol regarding New England safety Patrick Chung during the Patriots-Jaguars game is underway,” the league said in a statement.

Asked why the medical personnel didn’t check Chung for a concussion the first time he left the game, Patriots coach Bill Belichick said that’s not his department.

“Look, I don’t know whether they did or didn’t,” Belichick said. “I’m trying to coach the game. I don’t have time for a conversation with those guys. If the player is cleared, he’s cleared. If he’s not cleared then he’s not cleared.”

This is the second time Chung has appeared to keep playing after suffering a concussion. Seven months ago, when the Patriots were in the Super Bowl, Chung was on the field for a few plays after suffering a concussion. That it can happen repeatedly shows that the league still has some work to do on figuring out how to get players out of the game immediately when they’ve suffered a concussion.

96 responses to “NFL, NFLPA reviewing whether Patrick Chung played with a concussion

  1. Trollin” Volin was foiled trying to trap the hoodie at today’s presser into narrowing down when the concussion occurred. Little Ben repeatedly asked and repeatedly got nothing for his trouble. Hoodie’s dance steps remain nonpareil.

  2. I still haven’t seen a replay that shows how he got the concussion. If the refs don’t see it, the independent neurologist doesn’t see it, and the coaches don’t see it, then it’s going to be up to the player to report the symptoms or it’s up to the refs to notice the symptoms, which in some cases are not at all obvious can can be covered up (since players want to play). Especially away from the ball and not on the main camera angles.

    Those pathetic losers here yelling “cheater, cheater” have nothing to stand on. Deciding who is concussed or not is not up to the team and the coaches. It just isn’t. You look silly claiming so.

  3. Exactly what do these NFL concussion spotters do during games? Are they watching the cheerleaders or something? Do they have the power to pull a player? Are they in that tent on the sideline? Are they in any way involved in the testing of a player?

  4. Sorry cupcakes but this has nothing to do with the Patriots, it’s completely on the league to order a guy out of the game. In this case it appeared the referee did not order the medical timeout to put the protocol into play.

    Oh snap. Patriot Hater got powned again. Carry on. 🙂

  5. tylawspick6 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 2:53 pm
    Didn’t take long for Goodell to do his funny business after the backlask of the Josh Gordon, possibly electric rental at WR.

    —–
    Not yet. #LyinRoger and his stooges are waiting for the right time for the strike 3 suspension.

  6. Wait……..”that’s not my department”. Really??? Are you or are you not the HC???
    I believe “ignorance is no excuse for tolerance” must be applied here. Player safety takes precedence over trying not to be thoroughly being annihilated and humiliated by the Jags. Belichick must be suspended for the remainder of the 2018 season.

  7. I understand where BB is coming from but this is two times with the same player in three games. Maybe fines and draft picks would make him and the Patriots care a little more

  8. LOL…..I believe the fans that are crying “cheaters” are the ones concussed from the blow they took to their heads when Josh Gordon got traded to the Pats!!!!
    Go Pats!!!!

  9. Is it that easy and 100% foolproof to diagnose a concussion?

    I bet there is more gray area than random internet trolls are aware of…

  10. “That it can happen repeatedly shows that the league still has some work to do on figuring out how to get players out of the game immediately when they’ve suffered a concussion.”

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    Sounds more like the Patriots have some work to do rather than the league.

  11. Soooooo how do they determine if he had a concussion before the half????? I’m guessing they’ll get Exponent to do one of their wiz bang experiments. They know you can’t use a pressure gauge for this one, right????

  12. aarons444 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 2:54 pm
    The Patriots would never cheat……………………………..

    ——————

    Actually, they wouldn’t and haven’t. What happens is, rule get changed and then the leagues acts like something was done wrong, to dupe mouthbreathers like you.

  13. zappa73 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 3:36 pm
    Is it that easy and 100% foolproof to diagnose a concussion?
    ——————-

    PEDton I mean Peyton Manning has admitted in the past that he would deliberately blow the pregame concussion assessment test to make the baseline much lower so he would pass it and nobody would suspect a thing. Completely his fault of course if he really did have concussions. But it shows you it really is tough to diagnose a legit concussion.

  14. digilat7 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 3:33 pm
    I understand where BB is coming from but this is two times with the same player in three games. Maybe fines and draft picks would make him and the Patriots care a little more

    ————————

    Quick! Call Goodell and ESPN and drum up the faux outrage in order to execute ConcussionGate!

    Goodell will listen, as he always does.

  15. Considering my memories of the handling of Julian Edelman in the Superbowl against Seattle, I’m surprised that the NFL is paying attention to this at all.

  16. Chung will probably get cut if he dare get a concussion, and they signed later at a reduced salary.

  17. ak185 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 3:42 pm
    Considering my memories of the handling of Julian Edelman in the Superbowl against Seattle, I’m surprised that the NFL is paying attention to this at all.

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    Edelman was tested for a concussion by protocol procedures in that game and cleared.

  18. mikemanning95
    Sep 18, 2018, 3:32 PM EDT
    Wait……..”that’s not my department”. Really??? Are you or are you not the HC???
    I believe “ignorance is no excuse for tolerance” must be applied here. Player safety takes precedence over trying not to be thoroughly being annihilated and humiliated by the Jags. Belichick must be suspended for the remainder of the 2018 season.

    So tell me the last time you saw a head coach go over and take his player out cause he thought he took a shot to the head. And then tell me when the last time you saw a head coach take the player over to the blue tent and sit there while the player is being evaluated for a concussion. So to answer your question, NO it’s not the head coaches responsibility to spot a player with concussion like symptoms and then assist with medical evaluations. The NFL has people there at the game to do that job, both to spot a player with a concussion and then to diagnose whether the player can go back in the game. Wow you people are pretty stupid

  19. Get ready for advanced helmets in the NFL in 2030 which can diagnose a concussion by brain signals and make it easy to identify when it happens.

    Brady who will be looking for his 12th Super Bowl by then will be protected well. 🙂

  20. Same old song and dance, league is mad about Josh Gordon. So they tickle the fancy for all the cry babies owners/coaches/fans out there to make them sleep a little easier at night while they suck on their respective team’s binky. Waaahh waaahh!!! “Oh the Patriots cheat dats why they so good and know what to do waaahh waaahh!!!” Sad knuckle draggers…. Literally checking in on every Pats article, hahaha you might as well be a Pats fan, I think that’s the best part of it all.

  21. Apparently, now you can test for concussion via a mouth swab, which seems odd, but true. I wonder if the NFL will implement this new test into their Concussion Protocol.

  22. Hurr Durr I created a cool and edgy sn “GoodellMustGo” cause it makes me seem like a rebellious Patriot fan. Rogeer Goodell must be wiping his tears with $100 bills because I made this screen name…hurr durr.

  23. Haywood J Moderated says:
    September 18, 2018 at 2:59 pm
    Meanwhile, the NFL hasn’t said anything regarding the apparent concussion to Cam Newton.

    —————–

    Of course, Carolina is a protected team that Goodell loves.

  24. The fact that the trolls think playing a concussed player actually gives you an advantage really explains why they continue to support the terrible teams they do. Like remember that time in the 2014 playoffs when the Steelers forced a visibly groggy and concussed Roethelisberger back out on the field against the Ravens? And he immediately threw an awful pick to doom their season? Classic.

  25. I love all the cheater comments on here. It literally shows how ignorant people can be that they are so fast to throw out that word while at the same time showing everyone that they don’t actually know the rules that are put in place by the NFL. The NFL has an independent neurologist on the sideline for every team and it’s his responsibility to take a player out for a concussion. Do you anyone have any idea what I’m talking about? Seriously I’m sure you guys have heard that before somewhere. The NFL also has a concussion spotter, whose only job it is, is to watch for a player that may be showing signs of a concussion. The NFL specifically put these people and protocols in place so that teams couldn’t diagnose players and just send them back in if they wanted. The whole point is to take it out of the teams control yet you guys keep writing cheaters and blaming the Patriots and the entire time not being smart enough to realize that it’s actually on the NFL this time. Again you guys really are special kind of stupid. But by all means, keep showing everyone how stupid you are by writing cheaters over and over again.

  26. For all you morons talking about cheating that’s why Trey Flowers came out of the game and never went back in. How do you cheat when you put a guy on the field who doesn’t know what day of the week it is. In fact Chung was toasted on a pick route for a TD at the end of the half. Complete imbeciles.

  27. Haywood J Moderated says:
    September 18, 2018 at 2:59 pm

    Meanwhile, the NFL hasn’t said anything regarding the apparent concussion to Cam Newton.
    _________________________________

    Or that fact you can run a hitjob on any player, and they MUST leave the game if concussed.

    There are so many ways to game the game right now.

  28. superpatriotsfan says:
    September 18, 2018 at 3:54 pm
    Hurr Durr I created a cool and edgy sn “GoodellMustGo” cause it makes me seem like a rebellious Patriot fan. Rogeer Goodell must be wiping his tears with $100 bills because I made this screen name…hurr durr.

    —–
    Tee hee 🙂 So adorable that you follow me around!

    It’s like I have a pet! 🙂

  29. That’s not on the Patriots or the refs. Chung said he was fine, but the ref made him go to the sideline for at least 1 play. Then it’s on the independant neurologist

  30. concussion spotters operate independently from the football organization. They operate under the control and direction of the league.

  31. SmokeRISER says:
    September 18, 2018 at 3:51 pm
    Same old song and dance, league is mad about Josh Gordon. So they tickle the fancy for all the cry babies owners/coaches/fans out there to make them sleep a little easier at night while they suck on their respective team’s binky. Waaahh waaahh!!! “Oh the Patriots cheat dats why they so good and know what to do waaahh waaahh!!!” Sad knuckle draggers…. Literally checking in on every Pats article, hahaha you might as well be a Pats fan, I think that’s the best part of it all.

    9 0 Rate This

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    Exactly. I called it and you knew it was coming. The game was 2 days ago, but only now this is a story after the Josh Gordon trade?

    Beyond smelly.

    This is classic Goodell. They will use this to frame them. $100

  32. Do you people really not know that the league is responsible for spotting, evaluating and removing players from the game as part of the leagues concussion protocol??? Really guys? At least have a general idea of what you’re talking about before going off with the Patriots are cheaters bull.

  33. The Patriots would never cheat……………………………..
    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    It depends. Are they being accused of something Aaron Rodgers has admitted to doing to gain a competitive advantage?

  34. GoodellMustGo says:
    September 18, 2018 at 3:41 pm
    zappa73 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 3:36 pm
    Is it that easy and 100% foolproof to diagnose a concussion?
    ——————-

    PEDton I mean Peyton Manning has admitted in the past that he would deliberately blow the pregame concussion assessment test to make the baseline much lower so he would pass it and nobody would suspect a thing. Completely his fault of course if he really did have concussions. But it shows you it really is tough to diagnose a legit concussion.

    12 0 Rate This

    —————–

    Is this the same PEDton Manning that cheated with Chinese HGH and then pulled a Clemens, lying and blaming it on his wife, only to have Goodell help cover it up, with a missing Article 46 and a bad lie detector gauge in place from 345 Park Ave, just to try to block NE from going to another SB?

    Just checking.

  35. redclaw1314 says:
    the player also has a responsibility to speak up he feels that he has been concussed
    ==

    Perhaps. I get what you’re saying. Then again, one of the symptoms of a concussion is that a player doesn’t always know what happened, where he is, or even who he is. Perhaps diagnosing himself at that moment is expecting too much?

  36. mmack66 says: “Exactly what do these NFL concussion spotters do during games? Are they watching the cheerleaders or something?”
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    There’s 22 players on the field. If it was a collision away from the action, it’ll be hard to spot. Apparently, the concussion was a surprise to 10 million fans watching the game, the announcers never mentioned it, etc.

  37. tylawspick6 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 2:53 pm
    Didn’t take long for Goodell to do his funny business after the backlask of the Josh Gordon, possibly electric rental at WR.

    55 21 Rate This

    What a typical millennial excuse

  38. I remember Vox Veritas….he pasted every comment with a savage retort. Cowboys fan, various names, hmmmm. Kinda odd, at least logical voice had a sense of humor.

  39. terripet says:
    September 18, 2018 at 2:54 pm
    Cheaters strike again

    ——

    Did they ever finish the investigation into the Colts refusal to report the severity of Andrew Luck’s broken ribs and lacerated kidney?

  40. dsigrey says:
    September 18, 2018 at 4:10 pm
    Do you people really not know that the league is responsible for spotting, evaluating and removing players from the game as part of the leagues concussion protocol??? Really guys? At least have a general idea of what you’re talking about before going off with the Patriots are cheaters bull.

    ——-

    it is clear that they don’t. the don’t want to be informed.

  41. Funny how a player gets ejected for a vicious helmet to helmet hit on Andrew Luck, yet Luck isn’t even evaluated for a concussion. terripet knows cheating when he sees it.

  42. GoodellMustGo says:
    September 18, 2018 at 3:28 pm
    .
    “Oh snap”
    “Hater”
    “ got owned”
    ********************************
    I’m assuming you’re a 12-year-old girl. Who else uses terms like these?

  43. BB is the last guy that wants a guy with a concussion on the field. Chung was picked on a Jags TD before halftime. Someone might want to look at that play.

  44. This time they are “investigating”?

    The dude couldn’t even stand up in the Superbowl, and when they finally did drag him up, he was looking at stars. 3 plays later, he was back on the field

    Belicheck (and the NFL, and 99% of players for that matter), care about concussions the same way I care about the O-Zone layer….when it’s convenient

  45. terripet says:
    September 18, 2018 at 2:54 pm
    Cheaters strike again

    —-

    It’s quite possible that no team has cheated more than the Colts. It’s also quite possible no one has blown the prize they secured through cheating as badly as they have. Grigson was also the worst GM in sports, and that helped. The Colts have fallen far and fast since the fake Deflategate crisis.

    You know why no one really cares though? They stink. If any other team had won with the regularity and longevity of the Patriots, they’d face a similar wrath in today’s anonymous, name-calling world. It’s silly, but, whatever.

    Oh, please don’t stop with the horrendous predictions though—they’re hilarious!

  46. The Patriots would never cheat..
    ——————
    Actually, they wouldn’t and haven’t.
    =======

    Matt Walsh, everybody.

    Lets give him a hand. Or a camera…

  47. “hahaha you might as well be a Pats fan, I think that’s the best part of it all.”

    The the saddest part of the league these days. Its almost always the same 6-8 teams on the bottom with owners that have zero interest in winning a Super Bowl. Their only concern is cashing the fat TV checks and staying as far under the cap as reasonably or unreasonably possible to pocket even more money.

    The fans of those teams have so little hope the only enjoyment they get from the sport is endlessly trolling the teams they don’t like. And the result is that they look for articles on the teams they hate before they look for ones on the teams they cheer for.

    The TV contracts being split equally with no factor for winning is the worst thing that ever happened to fans of a lot of these teams. Look at Cleveland. 2016 were 41 mil under the cap, last season a whopping 63 million under, this season last time I checked they were 53 million under. Haslam knows he can win zero games for 5 years straight and still get their TV money.

    If the league was smart they would allocate half the TV money equally, and the other half based on 256 shares each representing a regular season win. If they did that most of the lousy owners would start making a real effort to win.

  48. “Matt Walsh, everybody.

    Lets give him a hand. Or a camera…”

    Oh by all means. Lets pretend a camera 30′ out of position in the age of the zoom lens, shooting video of things openly visible to 80,000 people is some huge cheating scandal.

    SMH

  49. aarons444 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 5:09 pm
    The Patriots would never cheat..
    ——————
    Actually, they wouldn’t and haven’t.
    =======

    Matt Walsh, everybody.

    Lets give him a hand. Or a camera…
    ——
    You mean the guy who completely fabricated a story about taping a walkthrough (and admitted it) probably because he was bitter that the organization fired him for stealing from his employer and for violating state law on eavesdropping?

    That Matt Walsh? 🙂

  50. ikeclanton says:
    September 18, 2018 at 5:02 pm
    terripet says:
    September 18, 2018 at 2:54 pm
    Cheaters strike again

    —-

    It’s quite possible that no team has cheated more than the Colts. It’s also quite possible no one has blown the prize they secured through cheating as badly as they have. Grigson was also the worst GM in sports, and that helped. The Colts have fallen far and fast since the fake Deflategate crisis.
    ——
    It really is bizarre that Luck and the Colts haven’t been any good since the league started inspecting PSI in footballs. 🙂

    Or maybe it isn’t that bizarre because Luck and the Colts really are nothing if they don’t cheat.

    Who knows? 🙂

  51. Chung layed on the ground after the ref spotted the ball. The ref appeared to have signaled him off. He fought and stayed out.
    Might even been first Q. I just remember the play.

  52. BTW… it’s not cheating if a player goes back into the game after a concussion. It’s not an advantage if a player gets to stay in the game. It’s not good for the player, but it’s not cheating. Targeting guys to put them into the concussion protocol is happening across the league. That’s the cheating. Not saying that happened to Chung, but it definitely happens.

  53. aarons444 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 5:09 pm
    The Patriots would never cheat..
    ——————
    Actually, they wouldn’t and haven’t.
    =======

    Matt Walsh, everybody.

    Lets give him a hand. Or a camera…
    ————————–
    Even an imaginary one.

  54. Wow , look at the responses ! I gotta hand it to em the Patsies have built quite a fan base in 10 yrs

  55. Reviewing, but even when they find guilt they won’t do anything. As habitual, annual cheaters, they should be fined millions. I would say forfeit draft picks but Billy doesn’t have a clue how to use those anyways, so maybe shrinking their cap space would be better.

  56. The Pats are CHEATERS….. they continuously CHEAT the fans of other teams of having any hope that they stand a chance……
    That’s why they all flock to ANY PATRIOTS THREAD like seagulls to a scrap of food & post their foolish uninformed mantras……
    They are so confused that they end up blaming the Patriots for all their favorite teams problems instead of holding their own franchises, coaches,players, & owners accountable for their incompetence…..
    DEFLECTION…..it helps them sleep a little bit better at night, but not much!!! LOL!!!!
    PLEASENT DREAMS…. I MEAN NIGHTMARES!!!! LOL
    GO PATS!!!!

  57. I can tell you from personal experience concussion sx don’t always show up right away. Especially in a live game situation where fatigue and adrenaline must be taken into consideration too.

    The refs didn’t see anything, the independent spotters didn’t see anything. They are there specifically for this reason. It was NE took him out of the game for good of their own accord when sx showed up.

    Not sure there’s anything to see here other than people are foaming at the mouth because it’s New England.

  58. bradygirl12 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 3:31 pm
    Well, to be fair, Cam Newton played with a concussion also. Why isn’t that being investigated? Oh wait…he’s not a Patriot.
    ———————————————————————
    Exactly! The league should request whatever sideline footage the Patriots may have on the Newton concussion.

  59. bradygirl12 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 3:31 pm
    Well, to be fair, Cam Newton played with a concussion also. Why isn’t that being investigated? Oh wait…he’s not a Patriot.

    ——————-
    In Cam Newton’s case if the NFL concussion monitor feels the player can stay in the the game then the Panthers did nothing wrong. On that same note, neither did the Patriots.

    Belichick gave the right answer. There are guys from the league there whos job it is to observe players and partake in decisions for him to play or not play. Indeed, that guy has all the say since his word over rides everyone else’s. So to Belichicks point, if he is being told the guy is available he plays him, otherwise he doesn’t.

  60. boknowsvt says:
    September 18, 2018 at 4:40 pm
    GoodellMustGo says:
    September 18, 2018 at 3:28 pm
    .
    “Oh snap”
    “Hater”
    “ got owned”
    ********************************
    I’m assuming you’re a 12-year-old girl. Who else uses terms like these?

    ——————-
    If he is speaking to haters then he has to use their language and terminology. Otherwise they won’t understand.

  61. JustBlameTrumpOrRussia says:
    September 18, 2018 at 5:52 pm
    Reviewing, but even when they find guilt they won’t do anything. As habitual, annual cheaters, they should be fined millions. I would say forfeit draft picks but Billy doesn’t have a clue how to use those anyways, so maybe shrinking their cap space would be better.

    —————-

    Even if Goodell did all those things the Ravens would still stink

  62. The ref directed him out of the game and pointed to the sideline – Chung left the game – at that point I assume Patriot MDs and league MDs are in control – it was pretty obvious – if you assume the Patriots MD is BBs pocket (to make the haters happy), that still doesn’t explain how the neutral league neurologist at each game missed it.

  63. I love how tylawspick6 and his other usernames (nhpats, harrisonhits2, 345snarkavenue) come running to every PEDtriots article to argue with everyone. This guy keeps a word doc filled with everyone’s comments and favorite teams so he can copy+paste the same garbage every time. Always deflecting and claiming Roger protects EVERY other team and EVERY other team is cheating except for the PEDtriots.

  64. JustBlameTrumpOrRussia says:
    September 18, 2018 at 8:28 pm
    I love how tylawspick6 and his other usernames (nhpats, harrisonhits2, 345snarkavenue) come running to every PEDtriots article to argue with everyone. This guy keeps a word doc filled with everyone’s comments and favorite teams so he can copy+paste the same garbage every time. Always deflecting and claiming Roger protects EVERY other team and EVERY other team is cheating except for the PEDtriots.

    —————-
    Disagree. TLP6 is a one of a kind thing. Way out there. His speech patterns are unlike any of those other guts you name. And the Pats do gave a lot of supporters so they can all be separate. As far as running to every Pats article, if they are fans of the team thats only natural and nothing wrong with it.

    But…how many acvounts do you maintain yourself? And since you are clearly not a fan the way you run to every Pats article says something very different. I dont think you are Chippy, Its clear which ones are his. But you too are a guy that comes running to Pats threads to pile on with multiple accounts. You do a pretty good job of being aware of them almost as soon as they apoear. How much personal time goes into that?

  65. JustBlameTrumpOrRussia says:
    September 18, 2018 at 8:28 pm
    I love how tylawspick6 and his other usernames (nhpats, harrisonhits2, 345snarkavenue) come running to every PEDtriots article to argue with everyone. This guy keeps a word doc filled with everyone’s comments and favorite teams so he can copy+paste the same garbage every time. Always deflecting and claiming Roger protects EVERY other team and EVERY other team is cheating except for the PEDtriots.

    —————-
    And how many accts are you sir? And your own reason to be running to all the Pats articles!
    .

  66. happens all the time, so what, the league screwed up, what’s new? beligoat doesn’t screw up, period, that’s why everybody knows he’s the GOAT.

  67. Is this a Ravens story? Because all I hear is Waa they cheat!
    The Ravens coach cries about cheating the Stealers coach is looking for drones

  68. Playing with a concussion used to be called playing football, thankfully all the facebook moms in the comments section stepped in and ruined our game. Thanks ladies!

  69. thefiesty1 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 3:34 pm

    Here we go with the “cheaters” narrative again. Get a life people!
    ——————————–

    That is their life.

  70. akira1971 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 4:22 pm

    There’s 22 players on the field. If it was a collision away from the action, it’ll be hard to spot. Apparently, the concussion was a surprise to 10 million fans watching the game, the announcers never mentioned it, etc.
    ————————–

    Okay, but they seem to be missing the obvious ones as well, that the fans and the announcers see, and it is more than a few. Case Keenum and Cam Newton come to mind.

  71. I would have a concussion too after the savage beating they took from Jacksonville. It was like watching a high school team against a professional team, just like in the super bowl. When they can’t film walk throughs or know the other teams play call, it’s a bad look. Let Belichick think he’s as smart of a strategist as Napolean, guy couldn’t play checkers.

  72. terripet says:
    September 18, 2018 at 2:54 pm

    Cheaters strike again
    ——————————————————————————————————————————-
    If the Patriots actually did cheat it would be worth it just to ruin your life, which it seems to have done since you are in here 24 hours a day, everyday, posting in all Patriots articles.

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