Pete Carroll: Russell Wilson is “over-trying a little bit”

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The Seahawks fell to 0-2 in a 24-17 loss to the Bears on Monday night and quarterback Russell Wilson was sacked six times on the way to that defeat.

Wilson was also sacked six times by the Broncos in the team’s Week One loss, which has led many to opine that the Seahawks have failed to fix their long-running problems on the offensive line. It would be hard to make a credible argument to the contrary, but head coach Pete Carroll said Tuesday that Wilson also bears some of the blame.

“I’m finding Russ over-trying a little bit,” Carroll said ESPN 710, via the Seattle Times. “He’s pressing in difficult situations to try and see if he can come up with a way to make something happen instead of just getting rid of the football. … In the long yardage situations, he needs to throw the football a couple times. We need to get rid of the ball and just give up on a play because it’s not happening and not take an additional pressure. So that just adds up and it makes it hard on him.”

With dismal contributions from the running game and pressure almost every time Wilson is dropping back to pass, throwing the ball away more often would help the team avoid sacks without doing much of anything to help the team’s offense move down the field. How that becomes a positive for the Seahawks as they move forward is hard to see, but we may find out against the Cowboys next weekend.

85 responses to “Pete Carroll: Russell Wilson is “over-trying a little bit”

  1. Because he has no line and they refuse to run the ball. Of coarse he is going to over try. 12 sacks in 2 games and maybe 3 of those are on him, the rest are because of his trash offensive line. If he wants the big contract extension or offer from some team he needs to get a nagging injury to keep him out until the line figures their stuff out, and Pete stops lying about the running game and why the better runner is not in the game.

  2. Well, he should be admitting the obvious. Wilson has lost a step…or two…and has never been an accurate passer in the first place. If he can’t run around and play sandlot, he’s well below-average as an NFL QB. But this should have been known to everyone already. The end is nearer than they realize with him.

  3. Wow! Is he really going to fault one of the most exciting players in the league for giving it his all? Maybe Pete should try that hard to coach up the bums they’re surrounding him with.

  4. Can we all just take a moment and enjoy this total dumpster fire? Remember those “fans” saying how good they were going to be this year and how they improved? Well, they are Jags and Bucs fans know, but you understand. It has been glorious to watch this team implode, and watch this “fan base” go back to their old teams they rooted for. It’s just so…..glorious.

  5. Why is the o-line bad every year? Does the team management think that it will magically get better with the same or worse linemen?

  6. Cowboys D is Legit. And only getting better when Gregory returns this game and Irving the game after. Pressure Pressure Pressure! Man ONLY IF IF Freddy comes back and makes this oline great again. Say what you will BUT Dak is only going to get better and better ONCE this WR core starts to Gel with him! Already got a taste last Sunday. Takes time So many new faces and talent, Bet thats why Butler is back! Liked that kid.

  7. They plan on using this to not pay RW when his contract extension comes up. The offensive line has been trash the last few years. RW numbers will go down because of the offensive line and they will try and say he is not a franchise QB.

  8. By the end of the season Pete’s gum wad will be the size of a volleyball and his jaw muscles will look like Popeye’s forearms.

  9. What I saw was Russ took over the play calling and got the first TD…..then the coaching staff called a timeout in the middle of another audible next drive where Wilson immediately threw a telegraphed pick 6. You have lost the ship Pete.

  10. Last year’s Touchdown leader and one of the career best QBR’s is overhyped. A team that lost 2 games on the road without their no 1WR and a starting lineman lost 2 games by a combined 10 pts….

    The season is over.
    Fire the HC
    They never had fans anyway

  11. The Super Bowl teams seemed to think that Carroll was babying Wilson and it divided the locker room. Looks like Carroll is trying to correct that mistake on the rebuild

  12. Sometimes wanting to create a spark, or feeling that a bit of extra effort, time or patience, can be a bad thing. That being said, throwing the ball away every two or three plays, isn’t good either.

    The offensive line isn’t helping as well in letting plays develop and/or allowing the QB that bit of extra time to find an open man. They aren’t opening holes for the run game on, at least, an average basis.

    Seattle’s O-line has been an issue for at least three years. Ifedi needs to be benched, or waived. He should be average to above average at this point in his career. He isn’t close to being average.

  13. That, and he’s not very good.

    And his weapons aren’t very good.

    I want to be credited with this saying NOW AND FOREVER.

    If the guy’s name isn’t Brady or Rodgers things are very simple: If his weapons are great (RBs, WRs AND TEs) he’ll be great. If his weapons are OK, he’ll be OK. And if his weapons suck, HE WILL SUCK. PERIOD!

    This game isn’t hard to understand and QBs aren’t hard to figure out.

  14. previous blog post it seemed like 75% of the comments were bashing Wilson calling him over rated and he’s not good. I don’t understand how people can’t see he has little to no help and has to do A LOT!!!

    Weird..i have a feeling what it is though…….

  15. Last week Petey said that Russell Wilson has to do more. This week Petey says Wilson tries to hard. Will we see a Goldilocks Wilson in week 3, who will do just enough without trying too hard? Will the SeaDorks remain winless in Seattle? It appears that they are pretty clueless in Seattle.

  16. His QB rating the first two weeks has been 92 and 86. How much better does Pete expect him to play with 2-3 defenders hanging on him every play? That putrid offensive line could get Pete arrested for assault in some places.

  17. wrm1230 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 5:29 pm
    Well, he should be admitting the obvious. Wilson has lost a step…or two…and has never been an accurate passer in the first place. If he can’t run around and play sandlot, he’s well below-average as an NFL QB. But this should have been known to everyone already. The end is nearer than they realize with him.
    ++++
    Two or three years ago he had the highest QBR rating (archaic, but it’s what they use) in the NFL from the pocket. He’s an accurate passer. Like many QBs, if you don’t have time, or are throwing on the run, then that percentage will diminish.

    The end is near for Wilson? He’s a bonified top 5-7 NFL QB.

    He’s very accurate when he has time. Just like LL QBs. Throwing on the run, numbers can/will drop because your mechanics are different than in the pocket. Here’s a hint. All QBs work on throwing on the move, and you’re not as accurate when doing so.

    All player, regardless of position, will say they need to improve.

    Hate on though!

  18. niners816 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 5:37 pm
    Can we all just take a moment and enjoy this total dumpster fire? Remember those “fans” saying how good they were going to be this year and how they improved? Well, they are Jags and Bucs fans know, but you understand. It has been glorious to watch this team implode, and watch this “fan base” go back to their old teams they rooted for. It’s just so…..glorious.
    ++++
    Funny. A 9ers fan calling another team a ‘dumpster fire’, all the while, outside of the short lived Harbaugh years, the 9ers have been a forest fire.

  19. LoCoSu@%s says:
    September 18, 2018 at 6:06 pm
    Sure Pete, call it overtrying.
    +++
    Well, if your offensive line isn’t good, and hasn’t been for a number of years, it makes your running game suck, which it does. What’s a QB to do on pass plays, constantly throw it away, or take chances?

    That pick to end the game was bad, however; he’s not the first QB to do that.

  20. wrm1230 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 5:29 pm
    Well, he should be admitting the obvious. Wilson has lost a step…or two…and has never been an accurate passer in the first place. If he can’t run around and play sandlot, he’s well below-average as an NFL QB. But this should have been known to everyone already. The end is nearer than they realize with him.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So you think Wilson’s “has never been an accurate passer in the first place”?

    Hmm… Currently, Wilson has the 13th highest career completion percentage in NFL history.

    His career completion % is 63.9

    Wanna know who is one spot ahead of Wilson in 12th place all time on the career completion % list?

    Sure you do. It’s one Tom Brady. Brady’s career completion % is 64.0%

    This is Wilson’s 7th season in the league so his sample size isn’t that small anymore.

    Production is what matters, not whether he looks good throwing the ball, throws ducks or on and on.

    Somehow, someway, after many years in the league, Wilson’s passes get caught at a really good clip, basically he’s at the level of Tom Brady in terms of completion %.

    Me thinks Wilson is an accurate passer.

  21. Send him to Denver. We’d win a championship with him at QB. I hate Seattle, but Russell Wilson is a winner in every measurable category. Nobody is as dangerous as him at the end of a game.

  22. Pete needs to go. None of the players respect him anymore.

    Gum chewing cheerleader.

    Total rebuild coming.

  23. ratsfoiledagain says:
    September 18, 2018 at 6:25 pm
    niners816 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 5:37 pm
    Can we all just take a moment and enjoy this total dumpster fire? Remember those “fans” saying how good they were going to be this year and how they improved? Well, they are Jags and Bucs fans know, but you understand. It has been glorious to watch this team implode, and watch this “fan base” go back to their old teams they rooted for. It’s just so…..glorious.
    ++++
    Funny. A 9ers fan calling another team a ‘dumpster fire’, all the while, outside of the short lived Harbaugh years, the 9ers have been a forest fire.
    ——
    I’ve been a Niners fan since birth. Lived through the good and bad. The difference between you and I? Ive been a fan for longer than a year. Who are you rooting for now since your team is garbage? Jags or the Bucs? You bandwagoners always go with the hot hand.

  24. sure, pile on.

    yes, the Hawks aren’t as good as they’ve been the past 6 years. it happens. defenses get old quickly in the nfl, rosters turnover, good coaches get hired away.

    it’s been a good run, 5 straight yrs w 10+ wins and playoff appearances (and a 6th year at 9-7), a couple SB appearances, and the big one, a SB win. as an added bonus, it was a memorable team too, w Marshawn and Russell, and all those brash young stars flying around on defense.

    we’ve got a boatload of good memories — from the Beast Mode run, to those brutal/awesome games against the Niners, the comeback against GB, and the beatdown delivered in the SB — so while it’s our turn to absorb a little pain, we can take it.

    we’ll be back eventually . . .

  25. I thought the Seahawk D played pretty well considering how many 3 and outs the Seahawks offense produced. Plus two takeaways. The offensive was terrible.

  26. He’s over trying by staring down his receiver and telegraphing a throw that the DB saw coming?? That’s not over trying…that’s poor mechanics.

    What about on 3rd and 1, 4 down territory right before the pick 6…Chicago knew you were going to run….play action would have worked great there. Lockett surely had single coverage…and if it didn’t work then you still had another down.

    So far it looks like Schottenheimer took good notes from Bevell.

  27. And the implosion continues. First, the HC jettisons the coaching staff, citing the need for “new thinking”. Then he starts throwing his QB under the bus – for “doing too much”. I wonder when Pete is going to call for the ouster of Schneider?

    These clowns got lucky with the picks that McGlohan set them up with. Then they ran that turd into the ground when they had to pick on their own.

    One.
    Ring.
    Dynasty.
    Over.

  28. eagles seahawks TWO birds with ONE stone………….. One and Falcons D O N E !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! say goodnight. …… wait is that 3 birds in a bush? birds 2gether flock 2gether ………… ..

  29. atsfoiledagain says:
    September 18, 2018 at 6:34 pm
    LoCoSu@%s says:
    September 18, 2018 at 6:06 pm
    Sure Pete, call it overtrying.
    +++
    Well, if your offensive line isn’t good, and hasn’t been for a number of years, it makes your running game suck, which it does. What’s a QB to do on pass plays, constantly throw it away, or take chances?

    That pick to end the game was bad, however; he’s not the first QB to do that.
    ———————————————–

    I am not sure you watched the game. Several times he had 5 seconds or more and did nothing.

  30. “I’m finding Russ over-trying a little bit,” Carroll said.

    That game was a TOTAL embarrassment on Monday Night Football.

  31. Wilson is a phenomenal athlete playing behind a disgrace of an O line. His durability is astonishing for his size.

  32. they’ve had a bad line for like the last 3 years. They’ve had chances to fix it. This is on the GM and the HC. either that and RW is the most overrated QB in the league.

  33. wrm1230 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 5:29 pm
    Well, he should be admitting the obvious. Wilson has lost a step…or two…and has never been an accurate passer in the first place. If he can’t run around and play sandlot, he’s well below-average as an NFL QB. But this should have been known to everyone already. The end is nearer than they realize with him.

    No he hasn’t genius. Nothing around him and playing a legit top 5 Defense.

  34. Schottenheimer “is overseeing a toothless offensive attack that looks eerily similar to the 2017 version that got Darrell Bevell fired!

  35. donbat67 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 7:33 pm
    He’s running for his life a little bit.
    +++
    I’m sure he wants to be a grandpa, like a lot of us do. With this O-line the past few years, he may not get there.

  36. LoCoSu@%s says:
    September 18, 2018 at 8:21 pm
    atsfoiledagain says:
    September 18, 2018 at 6:34 pm
    LoCoSu@%s says:
    September 18, 2018 at 6:06 pm
    Sure Pete, call it overtrying.
    +++
    Well, if your offensive line isn’t good, and hasn’t been for a number of years, it makes your running game suck, which it does. What’s a QB to do on pass plays, constantly throw it away, or take chances?

    That pick to end the game was bad, however; he’s not the first QB to do that.
    ———————————————–

    I am not sure you watched the game. Several times he had 5 seconds or more and did nothing.
    +++++
    I was in and out of the game due to family duties. We all have them. Saw a few of the plays of what your speaking of. Not all though. Sometimes it’s tough to watch when you’re the only person in the house healthy.

  37. ratsfoiledagain says:

    I was in and out of the game due to family duties. We all have them. Saw a few of the plays of what your speaking of. Not all though. Sometimes it’s tough to watch when you’re the only person in the house healthy.
    ——-
    Sorry to hear that. Hope everyone a quick return to good health.
    As for sports & comments, its just ribbing in jest, not to be taken too seriously.

  38. niners816 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 7:11 pm
    ratsfoiledagain says:
    September 18, 2018 at 6:25 pm
    niners816 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 5:37 pm
    Can we all just take a moment and enjoy this total dumpster fire? Remember those “fans” saying how good they were going to be this year and how they improved? Well, they are Jags and Bucs fans know, but you understand. It has been glorious to watch this team implode, and watch this “fan base” go back to their old teams they rooted for. It’s just so…..glorious.
    ++++
    Funny. A 9ers fan calling another team a ‘dumpster fire’, all the while, outside of the short lived Harbaugh years, the 9ers have been a forest fire.
    ——
    I’ve been a Niners fan since birth. Lived through the good and bad. The difference between you and I? Ive been a fan for longer than a year. Who are you rooting for now since your team is garbage? Jags or the Bucs? You bandwagoners always go with the hot hand.
    ++++
    Been ‘rooting’ for the Seahawks since day one. Born in Cali in the late 60’s. North Hollywood to be exact. Family moved to Washington in ’75 Football on TV back then is what the modern people now consider a ‘covered wagon’.

    The one odd thing is ‘fans’ are passionate about sports. Yet fans will boast about ‘their’ team to other fans, even though fans have little to no out come on the game, 99.9 percent of the time.

    So we’re all boasting about something out of our ‘fandom’ control. All the while, other fans bases saying X fans are fake. Just to get a rise out of X fan base.

    So go ahead and belittle Seahawks fans. It’s cool. At least Seattle plays in Seattle. Where do the 9ers play again?

  39. Why is the o-line bad every year? Does the team management think that it will magically get better with the same or worse linemen?

    ————————————–

    Yes. They sadly do believe that. They’ve put in some guy who played college basketball and tight end thinking he would pan out as an offensive lineman. Never has a team been more arrogant in that way thinking they could coach anyone up to be half decent.

  40. Pete Carroll is breaking Russell Wilson with bringing in a guy who universally considered the worst OC in football.

    Russell looks worse than he did in his rookie season. Its Pete’s philosophy to slow down the game and run the ball even though they drafted sub par offensive line talent and the free agents are off scrap heaps of other teams.

    This week is the first time in see level minded Hawk fans openly talking about it being time to love on from Pete Carroll. Listening to his press conferences, he sounds like the game had passed him by.

  41. wrm1230 says:
    Well, he should be admitting the obvious. Wilson has lost a step…or two…and has never been an accurate passer in the first place. If he can’t run around and play sandlot, he’s well below-average as an NFL QB. But this should have been known to everyone already. The end is nearer than they realize with him.
    ———————————————————
    5 straight years of 10+ wins, 5 straight playoff appearances, 2 Super Bowls and 1 Lombardi that should have been two had it not been for the worst play call in NFL history.

    #2 all-time in passer rating ahead of Brady, Manning and Marino in the regular season, and #9 all-time in the playoffs, ahead of Brady, Aikman, Manning, Favre, etc…

    8-4 in playoff games/Super Bowls, 3,000 career rushing yards, 15 rushing TDs.

    Only player in NFL HISTORY to pass for 300 yards and run for 100 yards in a single game.

    186 career TD passes in 6 years (30 per season average). Led NFL in passer rating in 2015. Led NFL in TD passes in 2017.

    1 of only 9 QBs in NFL history to have 3 or more 100+ Passer Rating seasons. The other 8 are Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, And Ben Roethlisberger.

    QBs with multiple seasons of 100+ passer rating & 400+ rushing yards:
    Steve Young, 4x
    Russell Wilson, 3x

    Players with 4,000 yards passing and 500 yards rushing:
    Steve Young
    Russell Wilson
    Wilson was 80 yards short of becoming the only player in NFL HISTORY to do it twice. (2017)

    Wilson is so average he’s going to the Hall of Fame.

  42. nhpats says:
    Remember when the “12s” claimed they had a dynasty
    ————————————————————
    Remember when the Patriots could beat the Jaguars?

  43. Haywood J Moderated says:
    These clowns got lucky with the picks that McGlohan set them up with. Then they ran that turd into the ground when they had to pick on their own.
    ——————————————————————
    Carroll and Schneider picked every Pro Bowler on the roster except KJ Wright. That was McCloughan’s only significant starter.

  44. frodoftw7 says:
    September 19, 2018 at 2:23 am
    Was Pete over-trying when he called that pass play instead of handing it off to Lynch?
    ——————–
    For crying out loud – Petey changed it up because THE VERY PLAY BEFORE Lynch got stopped by Hightower.

  45. Wilson has a lot of work to do before he’s a HOF candidate. He’s barely cracked the top 5 QB’s among his peers during his career. He’ll have to play at a high level AND win another ring. That team is a long way off.

  46. For crying out loud – Petey changed it up because THE VERY PLAY BEFORE Lynch got stopped by Hightower.
    =====

    Yeah, same to you.

    Good luck finding a Seahawk fan that thinks the Pats would have stopped Lynch on multiple attempts.

  47. #2 all-time in passer rating ahead of Brady, Manning and Marino in the regular season, and #9 all-time in the playoffs, ahead of Brady, Aikman, Manning, Favre, etc…
    =====

    While I do find that impressive, Marino and Favre played in a different era.

    I can’t even imagine what kind of numbers they could put up with defenses not being able to maul their WRs.

    .. and Wilson HOF talk is premature. Randall Cunningham looked like a HOFr at the same point of his career. Then he fell off the face of the earth.

  48. ratsfoiledagain says:
    September 18, 2018 at 10:51 pm
    niners816 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 7:11 pm
    ratsfoiledagain says:
    September 18, 2018 at 6:25 pm
    niners816 says:
    September 18, 2018 at 5:37 pm
    Can we all just take a moment and enjoy this total dumpster fire? Remember those “fans” saying how good they were going to be this year and how they improved? Well, they are Jags and Bucs fans know, but you understand. It has been glorious to watch this team implode, and watch this “fan base” go back to their old teams they rooted for. It’s just so…..glorious.
    ++++
    Funny. A 9ers fan calling another team a ‘dumpster fire’, all the while, outside of the short lived Harbaugh years, the 9ers have been a forest fire.
    ——
    I’ve been a Niners fan since birth. Lived through the good and bad. The difference between you and I? Ive been a fan for longer than a year. Who are you rooting for now since your team is garbage? Jags or the Bucs? You bandwagoners always go with the hot hand.
    ++++
    Been ‘rooting’ for the Seahawks since day one. Born in Cali in the late 60’s. North Hollywood to be exact. Family moved to Washington in ’75 Football on TV back then is what the modern people now consider a ‘covered wagon’.

    The one odd thing is ‘fans’ are passionate about sports. Yet fans will boast about ‘their’ team to other fans, even though fans have little to no out come on the game, 99.9 percent of the time.

    So we’re all boasting about something out of our ‘fandom’ control. All the while, other fans bases saying X fans are fake. Just to get a rise out of X fan base.

    So go ahead and belittle Seahawks fans. It’s cool. At least Seattle plays in Seattle. Where do the 9ers
    ———-
    where do they play? Thats really all you have? Lol, no wonder you “fans” cant be taken seriously. You know and I know that you’ve been a fan for a couple years. You dont have to lie to kick it. 😉

  49. I know the line could use some help but in Ifedi‘s defense, as well as the others, he did face Von Miller and Khalil Mack in back to back games, not exactly an easy task. The road ahead won’t feature that kind of talent rushing the passer.

  50. Like I always have said you take away all of the talent from seattle and you will find that PC can not coach. Hey Pete time to move on maybe pop warner?

  51. The Seahawks and Wilson are being exposed since the defense isn’t the same to bail him out and give him the great field position.

    It’s pretty funny that the few Seahawks fans on this board are so sensitive to a little trash talking that they feel the need to CLAIM they’ve been fans since day one or whatever. Fine, claim whatever you want. The fact remains that the majority of the fans only started the team in 2006.

  52. I know the line could use some help but in Ifedi‘s defense, as well as the others, he did face Von Miller and Khalil Mack in back to back games, not exactly an easy task. The road ahead won’t feature that kind of talent rushing the passer.
    =====

    He made his 31st start Monday. We’re not dealing with a small sample size anymore.

    Ask yourself if you’ve seen a worse Seahawk lineman? Honestly.

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