Jon Gruden: It’s hard to find a good pass rusher

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The Raiders’ defense is next to last in the NFL through two games of the season, with just two sacks. So what seems to be the problem?

Raiders coach Jon Gruden says great pass rushers don’t grow on trees.

“It’s hard to find a great one. It’s hard to find a good one. It’s hard to find one,” Gruden said. “College football now, they’re not really dropping back to pass and throwing footballs anymore. They’re throwing laterals and they’re throwing bubble screens and they’re throwing read options. So you’ve got to train these guys. It takes a little time to learn how to rush the passer. We’ve got some guys that are in that process right now.”

At this point, Gruden is practically begging to be ripped as a clueless moron every time he opens his mouth about the Raiders’ pass rush, and the decision to trade star pass rusher Khalil Mack. From a pubic relations standpoint, the trade is a failure, and Gruden has done himself no favors with the way he has talked about it. You can’t find a great pass rusher? Then why did you trade the one you had?

But Gruden was playing the long game when he traded Mack. He knew he wasn’t making his team better in 2018. The question is whether the Bears’ first-round draft picks in 2019 and 2020, as well as the salary cap flexibility of getting rid of the expensive Mack, will help the Raiders build a more competitive roster.

In the long run, it might work out that way. For now, Gruden’s team is 0-2, and he’s struggling to explain why.

112 responses to “Jon Gruden: It’s hard to find a good pass rusher

  1. Defense is actually playing pretty well, Just these last 2 games weve had some poor time management where weve used our timeouts too early for no real reason. Its a shame weve had so many penalties the last 2 games cause it makes taking a Delay of Game penalty even worse for us.

    If the Defense can play a full 4 quarters without gassing out we’ll close out these games.

    Arden Key has been getting solid pressure with his bull rush, he just needs to learn some of the finesse at the position.

  2. The Bears found themselves a pretty good one. As a Chiefs fan, I’m just giddy that this guy has a ten year contract with full control of the roster. The hiring of Gruden is going to go down as one of the biggest debacles in NFL history and set this franchise back big time.

  3. Gruden needs to stop complaining and start coaching them up. Few college graduates know everything required for their future jobs when they matriculate. Its up to the employers to show them the ropes and enhance their skills.

    Adapt! Improvise! Overcome!!

  4. I don’t think Gruden is a bad coach, but he has never impressed me with his personnel decisions.

    The winner/loser of the Mack trade can’t truly be judged until the Raiders make their selections, but through 2 weeks it certainly looks like they gave up a very special player that will be hard (if not impossible) to replace.

  5. lol Jon Gruden wasn’t that good before BUT lets be real if the GM & Owner had no interest in giving Khalil Mack the money he should get than trading him was the right thing to do

  6. Wow…these jokes are writing themselves. This club is perfect for Vegas, a great standup act that will be impersonating a “football team”. I wonder if Gruden or Mark will do the rimshots with the drum during the highlights?

  7. Aren’t HC contracts guaranteed? Did this guy literally just fleece the Raiders/NFL out of 100 million by accepting the contract and trying his hardest to get fired right away?

  8. I think this is pretty simple.
    Gruden could not win (on the field or off) with Khalil’s demands and stance.
    Gruden had to let Khalil go.
    The press and pundits will not let it go.
    Gruden doesn’t care.
    Gruden is on to Miami.

  9. “You can’t find a great pass rusher? Then why did you trade the one you had?”

    I thought Reggie McKenzie was the GM?

    Also, do you know if the owner even has enough cash to place in Escrow for the guaranteed amount that Mack was going to get? (Especially after already doing so for Carr)

  10. Key needs to start running laps. The Raiders had a huge first half TOP advantage and ended the game with an almost 6 minute advantage. Key was so gassed on the last drive he just stood there, unable to make a real attempt at playing football.

    I like Key but Sunday’s 4th quarter was a joke.

  11. I’d like to officially put my name in the hat as the next Raiders coach. For only $50 million dollars I too can tell you I can’t find a pass rusher. To reach me just reply here and we’ll get the ball rolling.

  12. the17thearlofoxford says:
    September 19, 2018 at 5:04 pm
    Tanking it for the Number 1 Pick in 2019.
    ________________________________________

    Sir, all of Buffalo is on line one

  13. What is not well understood is that the Raiders cash flow is poor and will remain poor until they get to Vegas. The owner had his hands tied so the Raiders had to unload Mack. Wait a couple of years and the Raiders might be competitive again.

  14. Why didn’t Gruden take 20 million off his own salary to get Mack? I mean, does a coach really need more than 80 million? It would have shown good faith to the franchise, the fans plus they would still have Mack.

  15. This one is kinda like shooting fish in a barrel. Gruden is feeding us straight lines. I really hope he’s not that dumb. I guess we’ll see. Obviously, the Raiders will suck this year, but maybe Gruden has the long game in mind and is tanking on purpose. Who knows?

  16. I can’t resist. Gruden is an “idget” as one of my favorite tv characters might say. Gruden is in love with talking to the media. Maybe stop doing that so much and do more coaching.

  17. All of the sudden, fans are on a player’s side when he demanded to be the highest paid D player ever. Y’all weird. The Raiders have 7 million in cap space…

  18. sasattack says:
    September 19, 2018 at 5:38 pm
    95-83 career record with a Lombardi trophy. Not bad for a “moron”

    —————-

    Those stats are a bad dream for B.B.

  19. “From a pubic relations standpoint, the trade is a failure, and Gruden has done himself no favors with the way he has talked about it.”

    We’ve got bush!

  20. heymister24 says:
    September 19, 2018 at 6:24 pm
    Gruden did the right move, he had no choice with the large mack contract.

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    Sure he did. He could have kept Mack and unloaded the large Carr contract to some sucker

  21. When the Raiders agreed to make the trade for 2 first rounders, I think the Raiders were under the impression those would both be top 10 picks. They still could be, but as good as the Bears defense has looked in the first two weeks and if Trubisky learns this new offense and starts firing on all cylinders, they could end up being late 1st rounders. Mack is looking like a perfect fit in Chicago.

  22. Gruden is playing with you guys, Gruden is not dumb just playing the game for when he builds the team he wants

  23. Ummmm….

    This statement confuses me.

    Is it hard to find another one after you draft one or it’s hard to find another one once you let one walk away?

    Nevermind.

  24. The question is whether the Bears’ first-round draft picks in 2019 and 2020, as well as the salary cap flexibility of getting rid of the expensive Mack, will help the Raiders build a more competitive roster.
    – – – – – – — – – – — –
    This is not a question, it should be a statement. It should say the bears two first round picks, as well as their own first round picks, and close to 70 million dollars in cap space next year will allow the raiders to make improvements.(sorry haters, but it really is that simple)

  25. Being honest is refreshing today.. That’s what he is, honest..He sacrificed paying Mack that huge contract for High picks in the next 2 yrs..No team in NFL has to pay 2 players over 20 mil.. That’s what he avoided..Kudos regardless of his current record.

  26. nhpats says:
    September 19, 2018 at 6:33 pm
    heymister24 says:
    September 19, 2018 at 6:24 pm
    Gruden did the right move, he had no choice with the large mack contract.

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    Sure he did. He could have kept Mack and unloaded the large Carr contract to some sucker.

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    You need to pay the guy holding the ball for more than half the game NOT the guy who may make a play on D once in a while. Sure…Mack is balling right now but I doubt that Trubisky could make that throw to Roberts for the TD last week.

    I’m drinking the Kool-Aid. I see the plan.

    One Nation

  27. Of course they are hard to find. That’s why they’re worth a franchise QB’s salary, and that’s why teams were willing to give the Raiders two first rounders for one.

    You need a franchise QB to win, if you don’t have one you better have a elite pass rusher to affect the other team’s QB, if you have both you have a potential dynasty. Do the research and you’ll find that 99% of all NFL dynasties had great QBs and a great Pass rush.

  28. I’m sorry but the Steelers had the most sacks last year and who was they’re big time star pass rusher? Meanwhile the Raiders had Khalil Mack and were still in the bottom half of the league in sacks. Facts are Gruden inherited a team with minimal above average players on defense and he knows he needs more of them in the long run.

  29. Everyone think Gruden is bad? This supposedly really bad roster hung with what everyone knows is a top 5 team in the league for three quarters and they coughed up a game they should have won on the road in Denver. 0-2 is 0-2 but this isn’t like the 0-2 that Buffalo is. This Raiders team isn’t that far away.

  30. Jimmy Johnson was called all sorts of names when he traded away Herschel Walker for draft picks. When the Cowboys finished 1-15 his first season in the NFL, all the experts thought he was out of his league. Then the super bowl trophies started piling up. All those experts dug a deep hole and hid in it for years. Now those same people are saying the same thing about Jon Gruden. How could he trade away Khalil Mack for draft picks? We know the Raiders have only had one winning season in 15 years, but for some odd reason, those “experts” wanted Gruden to stay the course. I have a feeling those experts will be digging another hole in a little while. Mark Davis might even be sitting beside Jerry Jones some day wearing a gold jacket.

  31. Mack wasn’t playing for the Raiders this season under the deal he had. He would have been about as useful as Le’Veon Bell is to the Steelers right now.

    The Raiders made a decision that they weren’t going to pay Mack the contract he wanted, so they shopped him around and wound up gettin two first round picks, which is a king’s ransom in today’s NFL.

    Not trying to take a jab at the Steelers, but I bet if they were able to get even one first rounder for Bell at this point, they would trade him in a heartbeat, especially if it was to an NFC team.

  32. markdavisbarber says:
    September 19, 2018 at 8:14 pm
    nhpats says:
    September 19, 2018 at 6:33 pm
    heymister24 says:
    September 19, 2018 at 6:24 pm
    Gruden did the right move, he had no choice with the large mack contract.

    —————

    Sure he did. He could have kept Mack and unloaded the large Carr contract to some sucker.

    ———————

    You need to pay the guy holding the ball for more than half the game NOT the guy who may make a play on D once in a while. Sure…Mack is balling right now but I doubt that Trubisky could make that throw to Roberts for the TD last week.

    I’m drinking the Kool-Aid. I see the plan.

    One Nation

    ————-

    So far that guy “holding the ball” has passed for one TD and thrown the ball to the other team three times

  33. Gruden has never developed an NFL QB and now he has no idea how to GM the team. Mack is a rare talent and Gruden let his ego get in the way of retaining a superb DL player (game changer), who will probably be in the HOF some day.

  34. 95-83 career record with a Lombardi trophy. Not bad for a “moron”

    …….
    A yearly average of 8.5 – 7.5 (or 8-7-1) might indeed be good for a true “moron”, but it’s mediocre for the an NFL HC…which is the what Chuckles is, mediocre.

    Add his below the Mendoza line personnel track record…this next 9.5 years is gonna be fun to watch!

  35. Letting Mack go is only the tip of the ice berg for the Raiders. They have no financial stability, constantly move from town to town, are reliant upon taxpayers to buy them a new stadium, still owe money to Oakland for which they are being sued, have no idea where they are playing home games next season…………… This is all on the Davis family. Their history of running the Raiders needs no explanation. Do what you’ve always done, get what you’ve always got. The Raiders are a joke.

  36. Those claiming he is trolling the media make it pretty obvious who they are and the underlying beliefs.

    Hes not. Hes just dumb, poor spoken and not a great personnel manager. Probably worth 1mm over 10 years. Believe whatever fantasy land you want to live in but hes started the drive to the bottom and years of misery for raiders nation in a heartbeat.

  37. Jumped off the ship with the last trade. Unexplainable, and idiotic. The trade already failed. From a PR standpoint he has already lost. I have no idea how I managed to stick with this team for 30 years. Simply a pathetic organization. I’m done.

  38. He’s right. And Khalil Mack is, at the same time, a great pass rusher. I know it’s easy to rag on Gruden for trading him, but I have to acknowledge that Mack wanted a lot of money. We don’t know if that number was worth the cap space, because we don’t know what the number was, and we don’t know if Gruden and McKenzie wanted to try matching it. With that in mind, I cannot really rip Gruden the way everyone to this point has, because Mack may have ended up mortgaging the future of that team with a huge contract if he stayed.

  39. I swear nowadays anytime someone says something stupid,the yesmen come out and say oh, they’re just trolling. Lol! Pathetic

  40. Hmmmm…NFL owners should be browsing the comments here for their next HC hire.
    You know, since so many here obviously know so much more about football than Gruden (and have coached teams to more wins and SB victories).

  41. Q: The Raiders’ defense is next to last in the NFL through two games of the season, with just two sacks. So what seems to be the problem?

    A: They haven’t played the Seahawks yet! With probably the most elusive quarterback since Michael Vick, they’ve given up 11 sacks in 2 games. These teams meet in week 6 though, so take heart Raiders nation.

    The 2019 draft is projected to be stacked with D-line talent, with the likes of Nick Bosa, Clelin Ferrel and Joe Jackson. The draft capital the Raiders have acquired should allow them to bring in some of that talent, and the $ they saved by not paying Mack should allow them to play in free agency as well.

  42. We’re two weeks into the trade, again just wait ! Herschel Walker ran for a 50+ td in his first start with Dallas, they then went 1-15 (after 3-13 the year before) and if PFT was round then you would have slated Dallas for the move.

    No NFL team in history has had two huge 120+ mill contracts (or 100+ mill contracts) for two players on a team. The Raiders just couldnt go any higher as Mack wanted crazy money.

    IF Tribuisky turns into a Pro Bowl QB and his rookie contract is about to finish the Bears wont be able to afford both Mitchell and Mack’s contract, if they did they’ll hardly have any room to move.

    As a Raiders fan i didnt want Mack going but the cap problems were a huge issue. Chicago dont have a high priced QB (or many other high priced players) so were in a great position

    Watch the Rams implode once Goff needs a new deal

  43. Gruden didn’t care about the well-being of the Raiders when he traded a future HOFer in Khalil Mack. It was based purely on ego. Gruden couldn’t cope with a truly dominant player who is his own man and doesn’t need to brown-nose the HC. That’s why Gruden prefers his “grinders” who are marginal talents willing to ingratiate themselves to him to secure roster spots (Bruce Irvin being a prime example).

  44. Anon X says:

    Gruden has never developed an NFL QB

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    But everyone forgets how he took a 34 year old journeyman QB that never passed for more than 2305 yards and turned him into a league MVP that threw 105 TD’s in 4 seasons.

  45. Why do I hear echoes of Donald Trump saying, “who knew healthcare would be so difficult”? Proving that when you’re dumb, things other do appears easy because they know what they are doing. It certainly doesn’t mean you can do what they have trained to do.

  46. The 2019 draft is projected to be stacked with D-line talent, with the likes of Nick Bosa, Clelin Ferrel and Joe Jackson. The draft capital the Raiders have acquired should allow them to bring in some of that talent, and the $ they saved by not paying Mack should allow them to play in free agency as well.

    WORD

  47. Kind of sad (although not unexpected) to see the Gruden fanboys make all kinds of excuses for him, even though the “coaching legend” in a short time has driven the Raiders back to the bottom of the league.

  48. I have been looking carefully at next year;s blue chip crop of defensive studs: Love me some Bosa II – Oliver, Gary, DBrown out of Auburn – one of these guys is going to be a Raider – book it. Keeping an eye on Cameron Smith out of USC (ILB) along with Anfernee Jennings from Alabama at same position.

    4 first round draft picks next two years

    Its allllllllllllll good!!!

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