Mike Wallace on Le’Veon Bell: They make you the villain when you want what you earned

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Former Steelers wide receiver Mike Wallace can sympathize with Le'Veon Bell, who has lost support in Pittsburgh while he continues to stay away from the team in a contract dispute.

Wallace wrote on Twitter that Bell is taking criticism merely for asking for his fair-market value.

“It’s crazy how they will make you out to be the villain when you want what you’ve earned,” Wallace wrote.

Wallace never played with Bell, but he did experience a similar situation in Pittsburgh. Wallace held out through the entire preseason in 2012, his last season with the Steelers. The next year he signed as a free agent with the Dolphins and was criticized in some quarters as greedy.

When several fans begged to differ with Wallace, he said in follow-up tweets that fans can’t understand the risk-reward calculations that NFL players make with their careers.

“You would never understand unless you were in it,” Wallace wrote. “Me personally I’ve seen this game chew people up and leave them with nothing so when u have that small window to maximize u have to do it.”

Wallace made about $4.5 million in his four years with the Steelers and has made more than $50 million since leaving.

116 responses to “Mike Wallace on Le’Veon Bell: They make you the villain when you want what you earned

  1. This is coming from a guy who never saw the end of his big deal in Miami.
    One trick pony definitely sums it up. If he was as valuable as he thinks he would not have bounced around as much as he did since leaving Pittsburgh..

  2. The bottom line is whether you’re a quarterback, pitcher, cashier, teacher, whatever… you’re worth what you negotiate. There is not a single person who will not try to negotiate as much as they can get from their employer. I’m not mad at professional athletes trying to get whatever they can. We complain complain and complain about their salaries, but we never want to talk about the billionaire owners.

  3. He’s right! Never understood how average Joe’s would rather billionaire owners keep the money, rather the guy actually playing…

  4. i’m sorry you picked the wrong sport, winning NFL franchises dont pay players for past performance…..

    The Steelers have handled this situation the right way, and this is coming from a Ravens fan.

  5. Except the basic math for LeVeon Bell doesn’t rationalize his choice as of yet. Unless someone pays him the exorbitant amount he thinks he deserves, his holdout is counterproductive.

  6. Steelers offered AB the exact same contract Wallace turned down. AB accepted the deal. That deal turned out pretty good for both sides.

  7. Cause the average fan has a job that doesn’t pay them what they earned. How about the worker who can’t get out of bed without pain, who still goes to work, and who can’t afford to go to a game. Then you hear about these” poor taken advantage of” pro athletes who “retire” at 30 and have made more in one year than most fans will make in their lifetime. Bell could make enough this year to not ever have to work again if they could live without millions dollar homes and cars. SMH

  8. I was not a fan of the Dolphins paying BooKoo bucks to this one trick pony years ago. He cashed in and then was a baby the entire season because he didnt get the ball enough. Then he leaves the Jets game and quits on the team.

  9. Running really fast in a straight line is worth only so much. Mike is another one that doesn’t realize his ability is only worth what the market says it is. I’m all for a player getting everything they can in their brief time they have but crowing that you’re not making some figure that nobody will pay you is just silly.

  10. Joetorronto: you do know the teams can ignore the contract they signed right? They do it all the time! Stop doing the billionaires work

  11. Look all the outraged commenters coming to the rescue of the poor owners!!

    The salary cap is a clever device for a number of reasons – one of which is that it gives a team a finite salary to work with – and when a guy wants a raise – all the fans can see is the team losing spending flexibility.

  12. They were going to make him the highest paid running back in he history of the league….i guess that wasn’t good enough

  13. A running back looking for $21 mil. Never led the league in rushing, TDs or total yards from scrimmage. Injured a key moments, suspended twice for weed, pretty sure the Steelers don’t think he’s earned that much a year.

  14. Your only worth what the market will pay for you.

    Just like stocks and bonds.

    Right now he is on a wildcat strike and not going to get paid.

    With a signed contract he isn’t honoring.

  15. They were about to reward him with the bog contract, but then he complained publicly. Because of that, AB got Wallace’s contract and he was scuttled.

  16. cylondetector says:
    September 21, 2018 at 8:50 am
    Look all the outraged commenters coming to the rescue of the poor owners!!

    The salary cap is a clever device for a number of reasons – one of which is that it gives a team a finite salary to work with – and when a guy wants a raise – all the fans can see is the team losing spending flexibility.
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    Some of us have signed the front of a paycheck, not just the back.

  17. “Me personally I’ve seen this game chew people up and leave them with nothing so when u have that small window to maximize u have to do it.”

    Yea, the game forces players to buy yachts, multi-million dollar homes (with an s), bugattis, lamborghinis, ferraris, hundred-thousand dollar diamond earings/necklaces, etc. When they run out of money, its the game’s fault.

    Quit playing the blame game and be an adult and own up to your word. You sign your name in ink to a contract, you make a promise to fulfill that contract just like any average joe does when he signs his employment papers to go to work.

    This isn’t about getting a raw deal, its about wanting more than you committed to. Bell would have made more in free agency if he played a full season. Now he will be lucky to get more than a 2 year deal. And guess who’s fault Bell will think that is? Hint: not his.

  18. Highest paid rb? Stop it! With their window dressing contract was and absolute insult only guaranteeing 10 million which was less than the franchise tag. Say what you want the Steelers are notorious for lowballing their players and then Shaming them if the player doesn’t want to take the “hometown” discount. You will see he’ll take it in next year. Well you see what’s happening to that steeler team now.

  19. What is earned has nothing to do with it. The NFL players and their union collectively bargained for a system that allows the franchise tag. They also bargained for a system that locks in 5 year rookie deals for first round picks and 4 year deals for second round picks. Most running backs only have about 4-6 good years of their prime. This creates a simple math where teams can draft an rb and use them up without ever giving a long term big pay extension. That is why an rb should take what they can when it is offered. Bell was offered a good deal (maybe not great) but it was a bird in the hand. His ego wanted to be the highest paid ever rb. Sitting out half the season is definitely not going to help his case for getting that deal somewhere else. I can’t blame the team for using their leverage that the players agreed to give in the CBA.

  20. The last line was a little disingenuous. “Wallace made about $4.5 Milliion in his four years with the Steelers and has made more than $50 Million since leaving.” It doesn’t mention that he was on a rookie contract. The Steelers offered him way more than $4.5 Million to stay. He opted to go for the big payday. He has done little since, bouncing from team to team. If he was made to be a villain, it was because of the way he did it – holding out.

  21. “Wallace made about $4.5 million in his four years with the Steelers and has made more than $50 million since leaving.”

    Why are owners not villians when they cut a player for under-performing 2 years into a 5-year deal? How about cutting a player who refuses to take a pay cut?

    Those of you taking shots at Wallace will never understand. “Regular Joes” quit jobs all the time for higher-paying ones. Stop being a fanatic for a moment and realize these players are putting their bodies on the line. It’s about not about “greed”, it’s what you can negotiate.

  22. Mike Wallace was offered a contract, he turned it down. They offered a contract to Antonio Brown and they accepted it. The issue wasn’t necessarily him wanting more money, in fact I respected the fact that he was very clear that was what he wanted. He didn’t talk out of both sides of his mouth saying he wanted to retire a Steeler and then saying he wants to get paid big. What he got blasted for in Pittsburgh was for giving up on the team and being really bad his last year. He just didn’t care. He chased his contracts and bounced around to a number of teams over the year. That was his choice.

  23. tcostant says:
    September 21, 2018 at 8:43 am
    He’s right! Never understood how average Joe’s would rather billionaire owners keep the money, rather the guy actually playing…

    —————-

    Ok…..for the 50000th time. The owners do not keep the money. The team has a salary cap to which it can spend on all players. If you pay one player more it necessarily means that you pay everyone else collectively less. Get it?

  24. Getting the largest rb contract in history is great and but he argues he does more than an rb. But does he?

    As an rb you need to run the ball, catch passes out of the backfield and pass block.

    He does all that but they do ask him to line up out wide as well. Thats when the argument for WR money came from…

  25. Many of the nay sayers would choose to do the same thing themselves. Typical for our society. Do as I say and not as I do. Holding others to a higher standard than we hold ourselves is most certainly an “internet thing”.

    It’s also delusional.

  26. He is right and good for Bell. All other sports have guaranteed salaries with much less risk of injury. Even if he is losing money in this very moment he will make more in the future. When there are teams that will pay him the money then he is worth it…fact! This doesn’t mean the Steelers are doing it wrong either. The O-line a Pittsburgh hasn’t said anything since week #1 because the NFLPA told them the shut up. The Steelers players that came out against Bell is a prime example of why the NFLPA will get the short end of the deal in the next labor negotiations. Just like Eric Dickerson and LT did did years ago, player like them will undermine the negotiating power of the union. ALL PLAYERS SHOULD BE SUPPORTING BELL! I get it your fans of the team and this is making you mad but please don’t be stupid. He is not greedy! He is very smart and also very important to the larger issues that will come up in the future labor negotiations. Take a knee Bell and good on ya Wallace for speaking the truth and getting yours.

  27. tcostant says:

    September 21, 2018 at 8:43 am

    He’s right! Never understood how average Joe’s would rather billionaire owners keep the money, rather the guy actually playing…
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    For most of us, its about the team we root for not the individual.

  28. Wallace is a great example for Bell. Hasn’t done crap since he left the Steelers, and the Steelers took money he could’ve had and gave it to his backup (Antonio Brown) who turned out to be twice the player he ever was anyway.

    Good talk Mike.

  29. Trumps Real Fixer says:

    Joetorronto: you do know the teams can ignore the contract they signed right?
    ###

    You need to read the contract. The teams have to honor them as written – and do.

    The player knows what he signed and so do the owners.

  30. bmoresteal says:
    September 21, 2018 at 8:45 am

    Steelers offered AB the exact same contract Wallace turned down. AB accepted the deal. That deal turned out pretty good for both sides.

    I wish people would stop lying about this. Steelers offered bell $10 mil guaranteed. Thats it. Not even a borderline 2nd string WR would have taken that deal. The NFL is all about guaranteed money. You can put whatever value you want on the title, but at the end of the day all the steelers were on the hook for was $10 mil…..He was already going to make $14.5 mill on the tag. SO tell me what dummy is going to actually take less than they already are guaranteed to make? This is math 101.

  31. Yep, those of us in the military will never understand the risk-reward calculations that come with some career choices.

  32. I side with Bell/Wallace. Don’t use the “you signed the contract” excuse, fans. Teams waive/release contracted players all the time, often with no money due. Contracts mean almost nothing in the NFL when it comes to job/paycheck security. I completely side with the players on this. I would hold out, too.

    “Guaranteed money on guaranteed terms” needs to be a two-way street.

  33. And Le’veon Bell assesses his own market value now. I don’t think so. It’s the same reason Mike Wallace is not there and Antonio Brown is. You don’t break the bank with the Steelers. They run the organization not the players.

  34. The problem isn’t the fans, it’s the organization and the local media that live off the organization. You sign at the Steelers price, or they will set out to destroy your reputation and cost you as much money as possible when you sign with another team. People have short memories, but this happened with Hines Ward before he re-signed too.

  35. I have no issue with anyone trying to make more money. I don’t think Bell is making the right choice here, but I’m not mad with him or the team over it.

  36. Bell will show up week 8, just as the cba allows. he will play his 8 games, and become a UFA, and not a chance he resigns with the steelers.

  37. Let the players start a league, with all the liability that would entail. Then they can pay themselves what they want, and their fans can stop crying about “greedy” owners.

  38. “It’s crazy how they will make you out to be the villain when you want what you’ve earned,” Wallace wrote

    You could have also countered that statement from Wallace the details of Bell’s 2018 salary @ $14.544 million.

    That’s a hell of a number considering he is a running back. Bell and Steelers should have come to an agreement that since he hits free agency next year, see what his true market value is. If they can afford it, they will match it. Can’t do anything about the contract now and he is losing $855,000 a game!

  39. A lot of professional athletes don’t like parts of the job; negotiating a contract is part of the job. Blood, sweat, pain and tears are part of the job. Criticism from media and fans is part of the job. The paycheck and the fame are the reward. Have the owners (the employer) rigged the system to favor themselves? Of course; wouldn’t you if you had a couple of billion dollars? Anyway if it gets to be too much just retire at halftime 54.5 million dollars be damned.

  40. kennylc2015 says:
    September 21, 2018 at 8:41 am
    The bottom line is whether you’re a quarterback, pitcher, cashier, teacher, whatever… you’re worth what you negotiate. There is not a single person who will not try to negotiate as much as they can get from their employer. I’m not mad at professional athletes trying to get whatever they can. We complain complain and complain about their salaries, but we never want to talk about the billionaire owners.

    Then go be an owner. They weren’t sent down from a spaceship and despite what the divider in chief said to Joe the Plumber, they deserve credit for giving thousands of people the opportunity, as in land of, to work and make $.

  41. tcostant says:
    September 21, 2018 at 8:43 am
    He’s right! Never understood how average Joe’s would rather billionaire owners keep the money, rather the guy actually playing…
    ——————
    You’re wrong – ever since the salary cap came in 1994, players who get excessive paydays are taking it away from their teammates far more than from the billionaire owners. And guys who are hold-outs are further just damaging their team’s preparations. In the ultimate team sport a lot of these big-pay players are selfishly overlooking that without the other 52 on the roster, they wouldn’t be huge stars, and it’s for all 3 of these reasons that fans get annoyed with these guys.

  42. Of course you’ll get the usual comments here that Wallace wasn’t any good and had no right wanting fair market value. He just should have said thank you to the Rooneys because they are wonderful people and always do what is best for their employees. Many Steelers fans and other fans feel the same about Bell. Guess what? That is NOT the same team without Bell. I can tell you, as a Patriots fan, that he puts an extra amount of fear in an opponent and defenses have to game plan to him. Those defenses open up that offense for other players like Brown and Roethlisberger. Now, defenses can focus more on Brown. Look at what the Jags did to Gronk when they knew Brady had Hogan and Dorsett as #1 and #2 receivers. It’s the same with Bell in Pittsburgh. You might beat the Bucs without Bell. You definitely will squirm.

  43. I’ve never understood why fans side with the owners over the players. The team wouldn’t hesitate to cut an overpaid player in the blink of an eye, but when a player is underpaid he’s supposed to suck it up and deal with it.

  44. “How about the worker who can’t get out of bed without pain, who still goes to work, and can’t afford to go to a game”.

    How about her/him? That person either has no special talent/skill, or is not taking advantage of what they do have. As people always say about the players, if that worker is suffering so much, go get another job. If that worker cannot afford to go to a game, find a way to make more money or quit whining about it.

  45. Players should certainly maximize the amount they can get in the timing in which they can get it. What complicated this somewhat for Bell was his missing so much of 2015. One way to bridge that negotiating point would have been to moderate any guaranteed salary under the first 200 carries during the first two seasons of a multi-year contract.

  46. The trouble is that the free market often ends up overpaying players, so they compensate for making less under their rookie contracts by becoming overpaid afterward. Case in point: Wallace lasted just TWO seasons in Miami before being given up for very little in a salary dump trade, and then was released by Minnesota one year later. Pittsburgh didn’t make him a “villain”, it just knew he wasn’t worth 5 years/$60M…and before long he proved that the Steelers were right.

  47. Mike Wallace is perhaps the best example of why you should NOT pay a guy huge money. Turns out he was readily replaceable, and proved through his own performance (or lack thereof) that he wasn’t worth it.

  48. “Let the players start a league, with all the liability that would entail”

    Exactly what “liability” are NFL owners facing? You’re the same type of commenter that is always whining about the owners not having to pay for their stadiums. Whining about the ticket, parking, concession, etc. prices. Whining about how high your cable/Direct TV bill is because of exhorbatan television rights fees.

    According to your ilk the owners are not facing any liability.

  49. Todd Gurley just signed a contract paying about what the Steelers are offering Bell, and is as good as Bell. Market says that Bell has unrealistic expectations. And if he gives up ten weeks of salary at $840,000 a week, he is not going to make up that $8.4 million on a new contract unless someone way overpays him–which is not likely to happen since Bell appears not to be a team player.

  50. NFL is a business. Fundamentally, supply and demand is what drives business. Bell has to use his leverage this way. It just looks bad because HE is the commodity. Stop looking at it as a fan.

  51. Why is there a salary cap?
    I thought capitalism let’s the market decide.
    Oh, that’s right. The people with the capital used there money to hold down paying people their worth. What a joke, but all errors get corrected. Some take longer than others.

  52. Would someone please explain to this dullard that Bell has turned down 3 different more than fair market value deals?

  53. Bell’s counting on the probability one team….and it only takes one….will do a risky potential overreach. And someone will, someone with thousands of empty seats (Washington?) or empty promises (Jets) or someone with so much cap room it’ll burn a hole in their pocket.

    Nice classy move by Carlos Hyde last night on national TV. My ten year old son asked “what was that?”

  54. Aaron Rodgers is not a villain for wanting what he has earned. The Packers gladly paid him what he has earned and the fans approve. Le’Veon Bell wants more than he has earned and he is a villain because he wants to extort what he has not earned from the Steelers by holding out.

  55. vikinghooper says:
    September 21, 2018 at 10:31 am
    Why is there a salary cap?
    I thought capitalism let’s the market decide.
    Oh, that’s right. The people with the capital used there money to hold down paying people their worth. What a joke, but all errors get corrected. Some take longer than others.

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    Here’s a history lesson for you and an answer to your question. People a lot smarter than you and me (such as Wellington Mara and Pete Rozelle) knew that in order to give the small market teams a chance to compete with the big market teams, there had to be a salary cap. It was one of the smartest things they did and if there were no salary cap, owners like Jerry Jones or Dan Snyder would buy all the big name free agents and always be in the playoffs while small market teams such as Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Kansas City, etc… would never be in the playoffs.
    Wellington Mara was a great owner. He cared as much about the league as he did his NY Giants. If it weren’t for him, the salary cap would have been done away with. But he fought to keep it place and reminded the other owners what’s good for the league is good for all the teams.
    Just think about the George Steinbrenner years with the Yankees. He bought everybody (or tried to) and destroyed any semblance of sanity with salaries in baseball. It’s why even awful players still make millions in baseball.
    The NFL is a cooperative business between the owners and the salary cap is the best thing for the fans of all the teams.
    Le’Veon bell THINKS he is worth more than the Steelers think he is worth. So he chose to sit out. It’s his choice. But the Steelers have the right not to pay him what he wants. And all of this has been agreed to by the Players Association, by the way.

  56. The problem is Bell is trying to reclassify his position from RB, to Playmaker; thus creating this whole new ‘category’. It’s similar to Jimmy Graham wanting to be reclassified as a WR. Bell was offered an extremely good deal and even though some fans may heap the ‘villain’ moniker onto him; it’s something he’s brought upon himself. And as far as Wallace goes; he just wasn’t as good as he thought he was.

  57. I have a contract with my work, it expires annually, when it comes time to renegotiation I try to maximize my earnings. I can agree that yes we all want that. What I can’t do is stop halfway through my contract and demand a renegotiation, someone else can/will come in and do the job, maybe not as good, but definitely cheaper and more grateful to have that opportunity.

  58. Wallace self worth, how many team has he played on. Bell was offered a fair price but Bell feel he alone is bigger than the NFL or team he is on.

  59. vikinghooper says:
    September 21, 2018 at 10:31 am
    Why is there a salary cap?
    I thought capitalism let’s the market decide.
    Oh, that’s right. The people with the capital used there money to hold down paying people their worth. What a joke, but all errors get corrected. Some take longer than others.

    ————

    There is a salary cap so that a few owners cannot simply pay for all-star teams. The idea is to provide parity in the league.

    Look you can say that the NFL makes too much money and that the players “deserve” more, and in general this may be true across the spectrum of the entire roster. But it is hard to fathom that guys earning north of $10M a year to play a game “deserve” more. I’m sorry. But I will say this…..the public should not be on the hook to fund any of this. Expecting tax payers to fund stadiums is absolutely abhorrent. Let the owners pay for their own stadiums or sell the teams to new owners who will.

  60. patriots123456 says:
    September 21, 2018 at 8:54 am
    Your only worth what the market will pay for you.

    Just like stocks and bonds.

    Right now he is on a wildcat strike and not going to get paid.

    With a signed contract he isn’t honoring.
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    Except he doesn’t have a signed contract, so he isn’t on strike.

  61. Like Wallace, Leveon will take the market value. Sadly as Wallace experienced that is set by the perennial loser franchises and what once was a HOF career with lots of earnings and a lifetime of derivative income, Wallace and Bell will fade away somewhere midstream in the deal they sign.

    I really liked both, especially Bell. But. He is not very likeable anymore.

  62. I get the “billionaire owners” argument…however, it really is apples and oranges…The owners did’t make their billions by owning a football team…they used earnings from some other endeavor or inheritance to buy a football team ( a business ). Players are a commodity that produce….morally, should the owners pay more…perhaps…it is an argument that I do understand but the players are commodities like any other

  63. Did he not earn his $14.5 million franchise tender? Hate to be the one to break it to him, but running backs aren’t quarterbacks. Running backs are MUCH easier to replace. Really good running backs come out every year, but franchise quarterbacks are very hard to find.

  64. There is no other profession that allows someone to break their contract midstream and demand more money. This stuff is one of the reasons for the decline of the NFL.

  65. kennylc2015 says:
    September 21, 2018 at 8:41 am
    The bottom line is whether you’re a quarterback, pitcher, cashier, teacher, whatever… you’re worth what you negotiate. There is not a single person who will not try to negotiate as much as they can get from their employer. I’m not mad at professional athletes trying to get whatever they can. We complain complain and complain about their salaries, but we never want to talk about the billionaire owners.

    ***************
    So true. Billionaire owners ask the city (tax payers) to foot their bill on stadiums, parking, city services, tax credits, etc… in the 100s of millions.

  66. Instead of giving away excess profit to the overpaid players, why not just redistribute the wealth to local causes: infrastructure, education, healthcare…ya’ know, stuff for the fans. You guys are just having fun….come on!

  67. Well, mike Wallace you are right. Thr nfl does chew people up and spit them out. But what about the non-athletic? The non-special. Thr people that make up your fan base….have they suffered less because they don’t have risk of injury derailing a career? What about single moms? Abuse victims? Alcohol drug addicts? Families killing themselves working dead end jobs and being “expendable” everyday because they don’t have money or power or fame? The fact is, you live an insulated life as a high caliber athlete, even the cruelty of our world won’t even spare athletes. Were you complaining in college when your school bent over backwards for you? How about when women throw themselves at you? How about when you get all kinds of free stuff just because you are in the nfl? I live in a training camp city….ive seen how it is. You are a celebrity, you are trying to get sympathy from a fans that couldn’t even dream of having the kind of life you’ve enjoyed. Careful how you approach it, bruh.

  68. In their world being able to diss is what it’s all about. They’ve done it since they were kids on a playground.Fast fwd to today and, if you’re not making the most, you can’t shove it in everyone’s face after a tackle. Everyone wants to be King.

  69. GoodellMustGo says:
    September 21, 2018 at 10:53 am
    How are the last place Steelers doing this morning?

    🙂

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    I would be completely happy with last place if it would guarantee Tomlin and 99.9% of the rest of the coaching staff would be gone at year’s end. The Steelers are complete cluster right now, and Captain Cliche isn’t the one to uncluster situation. Lol

  70. Jeffrey Julian says:
    September 21, 2018 at 11:40 am
    Well, mike Wallace you are right. Thr nfl does chew people up and spit them out. But what about the non-athletic? The non-special. Thr people that make up your fan base….have they suffered less because they don’t have risk of injury derailing a career? What about single moms? Abuse victims? Alcohol drug addicts? Families killing themselves working dead end jobs and being “expendable” everyday because they don’t have money or power or fame? The fact is, you live an insulated life as a high caliber athlete, even the cruelty of our world won’t even spare athletes. Were you complaining in college when your school bent over backwards for you? How about when women throw themselves at you? How about when you get all kinds of free stuff just because you are in the nfl? I live in a training camp city….ive seen how it is. You are a celebrity, you are trying to get sympathy from a fans that couldn’t even dream of having the kind of life you’ve enjoyed. Careful how you approach it, bruh.

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    ….and what about me? Poor me!

  71. Just because you make millions doesn’t mean you should live a millionaire lifestyle. Especially knowing 1) your career is usually short in the nfl. 2) injuries happens(career ending ones).

    So I can understand why you want to maximize but I also don’t feel sorry for you thinking the gravy train won’t stop for you.

  72. allinstackme says:
    September 21, 2018 at 8:36 am

    Shut up. There’s making what you’ve earned and then there’s pure greed.
    ****************************

    And once again, to no one’s surprise, the Steelers demonstrate their greed, through their cheapness.

  73. You earned NOTHING in MN or Baltimore. Still earning nothing. Ben made you. All you can do is run straight and still have 20% catch ratio

  74. GoodellMustGo says:
    September 21, 2018 at 10:53 am
    How are the last place Steelers doing this morning?

    🙂

    8 1 Rate This

    It’s week 3. The Steelers are fine. KC is a good team. I believe they whoop your guys butts also :).

    Report back to me at the end of the season and let’s see how well your comment has aged.

    Just remember cupcakes lol, 2016, this team was 4-1, lost 4 straight, then proceeded to make the AFCCG. This team has seen adversity and had battled back. Being a Steeler fan gives me that much more knowledge over the rest of you. 🙂

  75. you don’t get paid off what you earned, you’re getting paid for what the team expects you to do during the contract

  76. rpreisch says:
    September 21, 2018 at 9:41 am
    So if you had a bad or subpar year would you be returning some money?
    ______________________

    so if he had a good or above par year they would be giving him more money?

  77. No running back, no matter how great, is worth as much as Bell is demanding.

    The position itself simply does not provide the value (over replacement).

  78. nyneal says:

    “if there was no salary cap, owners like Jerry Jones or Dan Snyder would buy all the big name free agents and always be in the playoffs while small market teams such as Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Kansas City, etc…would never be in the playoffs.”

    The Chiefs are owned by the Hunt family, one of the wealthiest families in the world. Ditto for the Rooneys, the Steelers owners. Neither team needs the salary cap to compete with Jones or Snyder.

    Shad Khan and David Tepper, “small market” owners, are more than sufficiently wealthy to compete with Jones or Snyder without the cap. Stan Kroenke could outbid Jones or Snyder even if the Rams were located in the smallest town in America.

  79. “Wallace made about $4.5 million in his four years with the Steelers and has made more than $50 million since leaving.”

    That’s really all you need to hear. Steelers are a dump fire that has wasted its money and energy on the wrong players, all the while sacrificing every molecule of its morality by standing up for a bunch of psychos.

  80. That’s part of the problem with the NFL – teams underpay good rookies, then they sign big free agent deals and don’t play up to expectations – Wallace would be one of those people. There should be a way where rookies who excel under their deals get compensated – as long as it brings down the overall cost of free agent contracts and the money gets spread more around the league. It’s fairly ridiculous when good players get paid and then quit, while other players bust their tails for nothing.

  81. How do you make a guy a Villian by offering him the highest salary in the League but he refuses to show up??? Bell will destroy his own market value no one will need to help him.

  82. Owners are in for long haul. Players are in and out, the better they are the more they make. They healthier they stay the longer get it. They need to rethink “retired” at the end of their football job. The football career ends they go on to their next job. Like everyone else who changed careers in their life time. If they hit the big contract and manage the cash they can retire at 30, most people on the planet cannot. Why should we feel sorry for pro athletes? AND WALLACE is terrible, over paid one move has been. And Dickerson, WTH???

  83. Mike Wallace asked for epic money based on his first four years performance. He got it, in free agency, and he underperformed massively. It turned out that Mike Wallace only looked like a grade-A receiver when he was matched up with AB and Big Ben. Right now, Ju-Ju Schuster-Smith looks like a world-beater for that exact same reason.

    The Steelers were right not to give Mike Wallace a bazillion dollars forever, and they’re right not to put that much money on the table for Bell. I don’t know what part of “highest-paid back in the league” wasn’t good enough by Bell’s standards. Clearly, it isn’t good enough by Wallace’s standards, either, but Wallace’s standards have been proven to be laughable.

  84. Players don’t like the business end.

    But they won’t stand strong as a union and fight the battles that need winning.

    Their employers bust them up every time.

  85. onlinetoughguy says:
    September 21, 2018 at 9:47 am
    I’ve never understood why fans side with the owners over the players. The team wouldn’t hesitate to cut an overpaid player in the blink of an eye, but when a player is underpaid he’s supposed to suck it up and deal with it.

    Fine, let’s be real. They are ALL overpaid. Who else do you know that can make a half million a year at near minimum but can’t read or speak legibly? It’s an insult to all those actual students who went to college, got a degree and are now paying off loans for the next 10-15 years and may actually contribute something to this world besides jersey and beer sales. Don’t pick a career and then spend it all whining about how much you deserve. Small wonder unions have so little support these days.

  86. You clowns. 15 million is a lot… but there is no guarantee beyond this year and if he get’s injured/overused…which is highly likely… he is screwed. I guarantee you he is going to get more than 15 million guaranteed next year from some other team. That’s all the reason he needs to stay away.

  87. @cardinealsfan20 says:

    Shad Khan and David Tepper, “small market” owners, are more than sufficiently wealthy to compete with Jones or Snyder without the cap. Stan Kroenke could outbid Jones or Snyder even if the Rams were located in the smallest town in America.
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    Shad Khan and Tepper COULD but they haven’t and they won’t use their own money just as Kronke didn’t use his own money either. Khan sacrificed a home game against the Super Champs for the payday in Europe and 1 home game per year. He’s using Jags fans as suckers, just like Kronke did in St. Louis. Kronke got his money and left people holding PSLs and tickets without refunds! Kronke used every excuse in the book to leave St. Louis, just like Billy Bidwell.

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