Eric Reid’s deal with Panthers has no impact on his collusion case

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The most immediate question regarding the return of safety Eric Reid to the NFL is whether the deal with the Panthers has any impact on his pending collusion case.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the contract with the Panthers does not impact Reid’s collusion grievance against the NFL. Specifically, Reid did not agree to dismiss or settle his collusion grievance as part of his contract in Carolina.

The ongoing unemployment of Reid was only making the collusion more conspicuous. And there’s one potential piece of evidence that could make the collusion even more conspicuous: If the Panthers cleared the move with the league office before making it, the mere effort to get the green light from the league before signing Reid would be evidence of an atmosphere of collusion. Absent an atmosphere of collusion, there would be no need to get the league’s nod of approval before signing Reid.

Green light or not, the Panthers did the right thing by looking past non-football matters and making a football decision. Earlier this week, Panthers receiver Torrey Smith lobbied publicly for the Panthers to consider Reid. To their credit, the Panthers did — with no assurances or promises that Reid won’t continue to pursue legal rights against the NFL, which necessarily includes the Panthers.

56 responses to “Eric Reid’s deal with Panthers has no impact on his collusion case

  1. Reid is a quality NFL player but he’s kind of a niche guy. Being a niche guy and having PR baggage means you don’t get snapped up quickly without taking a lower contract. I don’t see how his case doesn’t go away when he has been signed though.

  2. The Panthers signed Reid? I missed this news item. I wish the Bucs signed him.

    I think this is great news for the league. The sooner Reid and Kap are signed, the sooner this ugly chapter for the league goes away.

  3. So many guys are considered good because of past performance or hype. That’s why so many guys make pro bowls well after they have started to decline. Let’s see how he does. Wish him well; but his last season in NFL he was nothing special.

  4. That’s more because its such a light case to begin with. The demand wasn’t there for a higher priced safety…now it is…so he got a job. Teams will put up with almost anything if you are reasonably priced with an upside (see Josh Gordon); if you are a mediocre politically motivated QB who just self terminated your $14M QB…not much demand there

  5. The safety market was soft. With injuries the better free agents signed with teams. The Panthers have now signed the best remaining Safety on the market.

    Not sure why his being out of work = collusion.

  6. Some of these comments…SMH.

    Just because he finally got hired does not mean there wasn’t a collusion case among NFL owners to keep him unemployed. One of them broke ranks, that’s all.

  7. “If the Panthers cleared the move with the league office before making it, the mere effort to get the green light from the league before signing Reid would be evidence of an atmosphere of collusion. Absent an atmosphere of collusion, there would be no need to get the league’s nod of approval before signing Reid.”

    So if I understand correctly this means that (panthers new owner) David Tepper can expect this hiring to reward him with a pending subpoena from Geragos. Nice!!

    Keep in mind, if teams haven’t been signing a player because they think it will just be lining them up for a subpoena thats not collusion.

    Also, I am less sure that it shows collusion if an owner checks with the league about hiring a player if said player is actively suing the league. There are valid reasons the league might want to have their attorneys review that move for any legal exposure it might bring, and worrying about taking on additional legal exposure is not collusion.

  8. tinye67 says:
    September 27, 2018 at 11:45 am
    Eric Reid is the first player in history to not get signed when the player and media thought he should! It’s never happened before.

    ************************************************************************************************ Kapernick agrees

  9. Is Torrey Smith paying his salary? After all, it was his idea. If Reid plays like garbage they should cut Reid AND Torrey Smith.

  10. It’s real simple. Josh Gordon is young and talented with upside so he has a job because his skill outweighs his baggage. Dez Bryant is out of work because he can’t get open anymore so his baggage outweighs his skill.

    Same with Kap and Reid. The 49ers moved on from both because they saw them as subpar starters.

    The game has changed and Reid’s spotty coverage skills are not what teams are looking for. That’s why a bunch of safeties had a hard time getting jobs. Mike Mitchell is a vet still out of work.

  11. Let’s say during the offseason, 32 teams colluded to not sign Reid. I agree that, if that did happen, it is still collusion regardless of the fact that the Panthers just signed him.

    On the other hand, it is now MUCH more difficult to prove that 32 teams colluded to not sign Reid, when one just signed him.

    So, saying the signing has “no impact” on his case is just wishful thinking on the part of Reid’s counsel. Fact is, it will now be much harder to convince anyone that all teams were colluding, absent a “smoking gun”. And if there were a “smoking gun”, it would have surely been revealed by now.

  12. “if you are a mediocre politically motivated QB who just self terminated your $14M QB…not much demand there”

    People need to stop regurgitating this BS. HE DID NOT SELF TERMINATE. Lynch and the 49ers brass sat him down and told him they were moving on. They allowed him the option of “opting out” himself to save face of being cut. He didn’t choose to leave the 49ers, he wanted to stay. The team and their new management told him that wasn’t in their plans. John Lynch has even said this himself and APOLOGIZED for allowing that false narrative to be furthered, which is still to this day being regurgitated by people who want to falsely validate their predetermined bias to themselves.

    Like Kap, hate him, whatever. Just do it factually. HE DID NOT “SELF TERMINATE”.

  13. “Specifically, Reid did not agree to dismiss or settle his collusion grievance as part of his contract in Carolina.”

    Then your headline is patently incorrect. It should read “Reid;s contract has not terminated the collusion greievance”. It does however, invariably nullify that actual case. By his own attorney’s admission about a year ago, signing a contract would nullify the case. So yes, it does have direct bearing on the case, however he did not make that a part of the negotiation process for his deal.

  14. halfcentaur says:
    September 27, 2018 at 12:06 pm
    “if you are a mediocre politically motivated QB who just self terminated your $14M QB…not much demand there”

    People need to stop regurgitating this BS. HE DID NOT SELF TERMINATE. Lynch and the 49ers brass sat him down and told him they were moving on. They allowed him the option of “opting out” himself to save face of being cut. He didn’t choose to leave the 49ers, he wanted to stay. The team and their new management told him that wasn’t in their plans. John Lynch has even said this himself and APOLOGIZED for allowing that false narrative to be furthered, which is still to this day being regurgitated by people who want to falsely validate their predetermined bias to themselves.

    Like Kap, hate him, whatever. Just do it factually. HE DID NOT “SELF TERMINATE”.

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    I agree that he did not self terminate, and that a lot of folks get that wrong. You also mentioned “politically motivated” and that I dont feel should matter either way. But lastly you mention “mediocre” and that all by itself is valid reason for 32 owners to all of their own accord not want to hire him.

  15. tinye67 says:

    Eric Reid is the first player in history to not get signed when the player and media thought he should! It’s never happened before.

    tinye67 Meet Dez Bryant.

  16. This guy made one pro bowl because he was third in line after starter and backup bailed. Good in run support but a liability in the passing game. By all accounts, a good human being, and good teammate — just don’t expect him to cover a TE down the field.

  17. translation: dont call out the obvious or question our victimhood even when the facts point to the contrary

  18. cruzcowboy says:

    September 27, 2018 at 12:19 pm

    tinye67 says:

    Eric Reid is the first player in history to not get signed when the player and media thought he should! It’s never happened before.

    tinye67 Meet Dez Bryant
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    So it HAS happened before?! Man, there goes my whole argument! 😉

  19. To all those saying this negates his case, it doesn’t.
    It doesn’t because all this proves is that Carolina was not one of the teams colluding.

    Collusion does not mean ALL teams; just more than one.

  20. Kaepernick is NOT a good guy. He made a martyr out of himself after changing his narrative on why he was kneeling in the first place. At first he said he was protesting the flag and national anthem, and then changed his tone saying people were missing the point. No one was missing the point, he’s just a lying con man. You’re naive if you think he had other people’s interests in mind.

  21. To answer the question frequently raised here, no, Reid now having a job does not affect his collusion case. Quoting Rotoworld: ”Reid should have been on a roster way before now.” There was a coordinated effort to prevent a talented safety from being hired. The fact that a new owner finally bucked that effort does not change what occurred.

  22. jvonblohnjvb0013 says:
    September 27, 2018 at 12:37 pm
    To all those saying this negates his case, it doesn’t.
    It doesn’t because all this proves is that Carolina was not one of the teams colluding.

    Collusion does not mean ALL teams; just more than one.
    _________
    The charge was the entire nfl colluded against them. Obviously false propaganda. Stop trying to move the goalposts to suit you preconceived notions

  23. knownbutunkown says:
    September 27, 2018 at 11:47 am
    It’s all political! It actually proves he did have a case

    You making that claim proves you are delusional. Kaep sucks (Case in point him being benched for freaking Gabbert) and Reid overvalued himself in a weak safety market jumping the gun and thinking teams were colluding against him cause he wasn’t signed in the first week or two of the Free Agency period

  24. Congratulations Panthers, you have a solid safety who is willing to sacrifice and do anything for the team. Including playing Outside Linebacker in a contract year, and play with an injury in meaningless games.

  25. Folks are posting that the suit should be over without reading the article. If the Panthers conferred with the NFL office about signing Reid then that is evidence of collusion to keep him out. If any such contact was necessary before signing Reid, then that points to a prior collected goal to keep him unemployed. If such a collected agreement existed before today, then the NFL may also have accessed that “allowing” Reid to sign now defeats his legal claim. It doesn’t.

    Another point is that it might have been all the other owners, including Jerry Richardson, that were colluding to keep Reid out, and David Tepper as the new guy is being a big pot stirrer and giving the other owners all sorts of angst now.

  26. jvonblohnjvb0013 says:

    September 27, 2018 at 12:37 pm

    To all those saying this negates his case, it doesn’t.
    It doesn’t because all this proves is that Carolina was not one of the teams colluding.
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    It certainly doesn’t help now does it?!
    Since the NFL began, countless players have had gripes, complaints and conspiracy theories about why their careers ended. Most players don’t leave on their own will. Someone makes that decision for them. And the one thing they had in common, they all believed they could still play.

    How many players could we list that felt they got jobbed by some team?! C’mon. Reid and Kaepernick are no more special or deserving than all these other sob stories. You don’t think Tebow didn’t have a legit gripe?? Please!

  27. The cause is just, but can’t teams choose not to deal with the fallout? Look, the NFL is full of unpredictable distractions, 1 to many drinks, DWI. Wrong place wrong time, media frenzy. Then the serious, but still unpredictable issues like the Vikings are dealing with currently. If you know there will be a media circus and it won’t be focused on the football team but issues outside of football, shouldn’t you be able to decide against it? If I chose to leave my office an protest during my work day, my future employment would be a concern to my employer. Happy he’s getting a shot, speak publicly, but not when you’re at work.

  28. If you think Tebow has a more legitimate gripe than Kaepernick, then you aren’t the sharpest tool in the shed. Honestly, if you think Tebow is a professional quarterback at all, you shouldn’t be allowed to comment on football sites.

  29. rohinaz says:
    September 27, 2018 at 12:49 pm
    jvonblohnjvb0013 says:
    September 27, 2018 at 12:37 pm
    To all those saying this negates his case, it doesn’t.
    It doesn’t because all this proves is that Carolina was not one of the teams colluding.

    Collusion does not mean ALL teams; just more than one.
    _________
    The charge was the entire nfl colluded against them. Obviously false propaganda. Stop trying to move the goalposts to suit you preconceived notions

    _________

    Yeah…that is not what the charge was. The charge was simply collusion. Meaning more than one team, or one or more teams and the NFL. But I liked your line at the end. Let me try it. “Stop trying to move the goalposts to suit you preconceived notions!”

    I added the exclamation point for flare.

  30. Doesn’t negate his case when it took a team with a brand new owner to sign him. It makes the existing owners look terrible. It may not prove collusion, but certainly shows the existing owners were all on the same page.

  31. youngnoizecom says:
    September 27, 2018 at 1:03 pm

    Tim Tebow got it worse than Kaepernick. Kap disgraced our country and millions of police officers and Cuban-immigrants across the great USA. All Tebow did is display his love for his religion and he got ostracized; Kap is a disgusting human being.

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    Amen to that brother. 1,000 likes for you.

  32. raidernation210 says:
    September 27, 2018 at 11:37 am
    Well this kind of proves he has no case, right

    ______________

    Ever buy you signficant other flowers after she complained about not getting flowers? Did it help?

    The fact that Reid couldn’t get a job offer until after he filed a lawsuit says a lot. He’s talented and in the prime of his career he’s not Eric Berry but talented. Soft market or not he’s still a starting quality player and in the right system a very good safety. Talent trumps child abuse, drugs, drunk driving, or doing time for shoot yourself in a club in the NFL. Given that two talented players couldn’t find starting work whileboth being part of the group of kneeling players doesn’t look goood for the NFL.t

  33. If any judge grants collusion then it’s a travesty of justice. Clearly this guy got a job at that appropriate time–during a soft safety market and only after injuries occurred– so saying that teams coordinated to keep him out now seems like more of a farce then it did before.

  34. “A source with knowledge of the situation” means “nobody of relevance knows what’s happening”.

    Yawn. Next.

  35. People ignoring the fact … the “New” owner checked with the league is simple …. since there is an open Lawsuit against it . Nothing wrong with making sure your ducks in a row . Reid never had a case , he jumped the gun … in a very soft market . He had one good season and wanted more then what he was worth …. he got some bad advice from someone

  36. doctorpancake says:
    September 27, 2018 at 3:33 pm
    I’m sure all the experts here in the comments section have Law degrees

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    I bought mine on the darkweb

  37. doctorpancake says:
    September 27, 2018 at 3:33 pm
    I’m sure all the experts here in the comments section have Law degrees
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    I do.

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