Mike Zimmer: Anywhere I’ve coached, we’ve never been this poor in pass coverage

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Vikings head coach Mike Zimmer is in his fifth season as a head coach and was a defensive coordinator for 14 years before that. And ye’s never been as down on his pass defense as he is right now.

After the Rams’ passing offense ran wild on the Vikings’ secondary on Thursday night, Zimmer said he’s never had a defense play like this.

“Probably anywhere I’ve ever been, I’ve never been this poor in pass coverage,” Zimmer said. “We’re going to have to look at everything we’re doing and get back to doing things correctly.”

Zimmer said his defense has been digging holes for the team all season.

“I’ve been concerned all year long,” Zimmer said. “We have not played well defensively.”

The Vikings had Super Bowl aspirations but are now 1-2-1. The defense needs to turn things around in a hurry if they’re going to avoid a major disappointment of a season.

111 responses to “Mike Zimmer: Anywhere I’ve coached, we’ve never been this poor in pass coverage

  1. It looked like a secondary out of the head coach Leslie Frazier years. Vikings fans had flashbacks to our inept pass coverage that we’ve been used to for years and years before Zimmer arrived. Figure it out or get replaced by the next kid wonder coach.

  2. quilbdanglinfury40 says:

    September 28, 2018 at 6:07 am

    Never been this bad?! How bout the NFC championship game Zimmer?

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    I’m actually surprised your comment got so many upvotes. The bad play of the defense STARTED last season, in the 2nd half of the Saints game to be exact. Ever since then (which included the NFC championship game,) it has been a completely different defense and there isn’t really a way to explain it. All of a sudden guys are just running wide open. Barr has looked like trash, but he doesn’t make a defense go from 1 to embarrassing by himself.

  3. xiiprestige says:

    September 28, 2018 at 6:15 am

    I would just like to know why a LB is on the Speedy WR? I mean how can you be that dumb.

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    I think you underestimate McVay. Do you really think Zimmer’s game plan was to play Barr on Cupp all night? If you aren’t aware, the Rams have 3 really good WRs and a great pass catching running back. McVay and Goff were moving guys around to get favorable matchups, it’s not because Zimmer is just too stupid to figure it out. All that being said, Barr has been bad this year. There is a reason he is the one guy on that defense not to get an extension. Last year he was the 7th or 8th best player on the defense but is highly overrated because he is the guy that knocked Rodgers out.

  4. But, but, but…!!! This is the greatest defense ever assembled! How do we suck this much??!! We were a lock to win this division!

  5. “I would just like to know why a LB is on the Speedy WR? I mean how can you be that dumb.”

    He”s just taking a page out of tthe Steelers playbook. Remember Tomlin was D.C. for the Vikings the year before he was HC in Pitt.
    A year Minnie was last in pass defense.

  6. Wow. Maybe this will keep Viking trolls mouths shut instead of lambasting the Packer defense.

    Nah.

  7. Start with Barr, and go from there. The defense and Zim owe the state an apology. No excuses. No; “the Rams are really good”. Goff made that defense look silly. Start benching guys if they can’t do their job and want to pout and kick flags after grabbing receivers.

  8. Barr looks awful. Players are trying to make splash plays instead of wrapping guys and tackling like they did last year. I feel they once they get penetration they are just blown by. They’re also not stopping the run and getting off the field on 3rd down. The costly penalties on 3rd downs have been horrible. I don’t even recognize this defense.

  9. Zim needs to admit to himself that teams have figured out his schemes and blitzes. Barr has quit on the team. He was jogging in those pass routes and outran in the first 5 yds then it was over. That’s why he wasn’t signed long term. He will be gone. Zimmer needs to hand the reigns over to Edwards. All the coaches need to do is put on a tape of the 2nd half of the Saints game and the Eagles game and they have the blueprint to destroy the Vikings. Zim makes no adjustments. Plays the same D. Barr got burned so many times it was hard to watch.

  10. Zimmer will look at the tape and have a different evaluation. His cover guys actually did a pretty good job. Jared Goff was fitting his throws into tight spots all night. He was literally threading the needle. There is no defense for a perfect pass, and last night proved that theory right. Give Goff credit for last night. If Goff continues to play like that, we have a new superstar QB on our hands. The duo of Sean McVay and Jared Goff looks unbeatable right now. You can’t cover much better than the Vikings did last night. Goff looks like Joe Montana.

  11. Most of the issue is coaching, consistently the Vikings didn’t have enough DBs on the field and were forced to cover a WR with a LB.
    It seems that Zimmer gas been figured out.

  12. To anyone paying attention last night, it’s obvious that Zimmer put together the worst possible defensive gameplan against the Rams. All night long, there were linebackers covering Rams wide receivers, who burned them with their speed. On top of that, the Vikings would pull everyone up close to the line and provided no safety help over the top, allowing Goff to drop balls over the defense into the hands of the fast Rams receivers streaking down the field. You simply can’t expect to win on defense when you have linebackers 1-on-1 with wide receivers with no help.

  13. Barr sucks no doubt, but wtf is he doing covering wide receivers and running backs with no safety help? Zimmer is a defensive guru? Could’ve fooled me. And…where the hell is george iloka?

  14. “Zimmer needs to hand the reigns over to Edwards. All the coaches need to do is put on a tape of the 2nd half of the Saints game and the Eagles game and they have the blueprint to destroy the Vikings. Zim makes no adjustments. Plays the same D. Barr got burned so many times it was hard to watch.”

    I think you’ve got it backwards. Zimmer needs to take over for Edwards. Edwards is responsible for adjustments and defensive gameplanning…..none of which seem to be happening at all.

  15. Dont take it personal Zimm..the Rams wide receivers have made every secondary look pretty dumb. Too much speed and a great running back who can catch too. It’s gonna take a special defense to stop them.

  16. Having a ball watching this dumpster fire burn. Got to think another Safety or CB would be a better use of a game-day roster spot than Treadwell, but keep up the great work, Zim. I’m sure there are still a dozen posters who will be on here shouting “Super Bowl Baby, skol!”… hahaha

  17. And who’s the coach and calls the D alignments Zimmer?? Look in the mirror you hack!
    The league has figured you out and you are getting out coached and torched every game.

  18. May be hard for Vikings fans to accept but they were exposed last year in the second half of the divisional round. It continued to the next week where they again got destroyed. Defense appears to be getting worse each week. They better fix it because a bad oline and bad defense isn’t a recipe of a playoff team let alone a super bowl team. Rhodes are wide opened right now.

  19. quilbdanglinfury40 says:
    September 28, 2018 at 6:07 am
    Never been this bad?! How bout the NFC championship game Zimmer?
    ——
    Technically, Zimmer is correct.
    The defense didn’t give up 5 TD passes against the Eagles.

    Just saying.

  20. As much as I love Zimmer, he is to blame as well with his safe defensive play calling. Come on Zimmer, dial it up like you used to!

  21. charliecharger says:
    September 28, 2018 at 7:39 am
    Zimmer will look at the tape and have a different evaluation. His cover guys actually did a pretty good job. Jared Goff was fitting his throws into tight spots all night. He was literally threading the needle. There is no defense for a perfect pass, and last night proved that theory right. Give Goff credit for last night. If Goff continues to play like that, we have a new superstar QB on our hands. The duo of Sean McVay and Jared Goff looks unbeatable right now. You can’t cover much better than the Vikings did last night. Goff looks like Joe Montana.

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    Go back and watch the tape, man. Vikings gave up 565 yards of offense last night. 465 yards passing – 2nd most ever against the club. Teams have solved his defense. Back to the drawing board, Zim.

  22. Ryan says:
    September 28, 2018 at 7:39 am

    Most of the issue is coaching, consistently the Vikings didn’t have enough DBs on the field and were forced to cover a WR with a LB.
    It seems that Zimmer gas been figured out.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    It’s always nice to have a Lions troll chime in and lecture / comment about a respectable franchise when his team has been figured out since 1957 and the laughing stock of the NFCN for six decades.

  23. Yeah, I agree with him. The biggest hole the Rams exploited last night was the match-up mismatches, most especially on Anthony “toast” Barr, who was burned for three TD passes and whose value in free agency seems to be decreasing by the game.

    The other problem the defense had that went a bit unnoticed was their inability to stop the run on first down. Gurley was consistently gaining 5-9 yards on first down, which opened up the options for the offense. It took the Viking defense until the fourth quarter to figure that out. Don’t take credit away from Goff, though. Two of those TD passes were perfectly thrown against very good coverage. The Viking defense was a mess last night, but give some credit to Goff’s accuracy and the Rams offense as well.

  24. If Goff did that to Vikings, I would venture to guess he will hang 50+ on Green Bay in a few weeks.

  25. Hey Vikes fans, did you know Kirk Cousins had 13 fumbles last year?

    Listen, just let the fan base split into half Packers fans and the other half AMERICA’S TEAM.

  26. Ryan says:
    September 28, 2018 at 7:39 am

    Most of the issue is coaching, consistently the Vikings didn’t have enough DBs on the field and were forced to cover a WR with a LB.
    It seems that Zimmer gas been figured out.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    It’s always nice to have a Lions fan chime in and lecture / comment about a respectable franchise when his team has been figured out since 1957 and the laughing stock of the NFCN for six decades.

  27. Your 1-3* Minnesota Vikings are a week away from being 1-4*. Rhodes is a walking penalty. Barr is walking touchdown. Dalvin Cook looks terrible. I believe they are giving up over 30 points/game over their last 5. Not trending in the right direction. SKOLOLOLOL!!!

  28. I don’t know why the Zimmer had a guy that was a known pass rusher and was drafted high for his production as a pass rusher in college, not only constantly dropping back into coverage but defending receivers. That’s a recipe for disaster 10/10.

  29. The Vikings secondary has always been bad historically. The difference is now we always draft a DB in the 1st road (rhodes, waynes, hughes and smith) so we’re now doing less with more. Can Zimmer see that Anthony Barr probably shouldn’t be covering WR’s?

  30. Vikings defense is a train wreck now. As A vikings fan I will be surpsised if they even have a chance at the playoffs this year. Yes they started 2-2 last year and still did good, but we still have to play the Patriots and other good teams. If Cousin’s can play as good as he did last night we have a chance to beat a lot of teams, but with a bad O-line and a bad Defense it’s hard to count on that consistently playing well.

  31. Before we all jump down Zim’s throat, let’s all wait until we have all the details on what kind of defense he called, so we can compare it to what kind of defense the players called while out on the field.

  32. I used to think Anthony Barr’s legacy will be that of a cheap shot that resulted in the NFL rules committee making changes.

    But then last light, Barr was exposed for who he really is, that is an overrated cheap shot artist. As bad as the Viking’s offensive line played, Barr played even worse.

  33. Fantasy Football friends- it’s free advice Friday! Start anyone playing against the Minnesota Vikings defense. And I mean anyone- opposing team water boy you ask? Yes, start him- he will put up a mass amount of points. You’re welcome. See you next Friday.

  34. Did anyone actually confirm that Mike Zimmer can in fact see since his last surgery? I mean, it really does matter. If he’s calling these games with good eyesight, he’s fricking terrible. However, if he’s been calling these blind- still bad, but less bad. Know what I mean?

  35. Barr=terrible. Rhodes=penalty. Wayans= china doll. Griffen= MIA. Alexander= waste of pick. Hunter= overpaid. Joseph= overrated. What do they all have in common- Rick Spielman.

  36. Yeah the defense was bad but it wasn’t like the offense was bad too…. The Rams defense is supposed to be a top defense in the league and the Vikings moved the ball at will against them. Hopefully they can straighten out the defense and they should be in good shape, I think they should be blitzing Barr a lot more instead of dropping him into coverage.

  37. short week, on the road, against a top 3 team in the NFC, without our top pash rusher, and still had a chance to tie/win the game on the last drive. If they can make some tweaks this should be a much better team later in the season. Not giving up hope yet.

    I am more concerned we have absolutely zero running game. Is the offensive line that bad, the new O coordinator or has Cook/Murray lost a step?

  38. Vikings defence has been horrible since mid 2nd quarter in the New Orleans playoff game. Several players are slipping fast, Joseph, Rhodes, Kendricks, but none as much as Barr. Also Griffen was a force for most of last year until injuries made him pretty avg at the end of the year. Now he’s gone completely.

    Life comes at you fast. Vikes saddled themselves with an 84 million guaranteed contract to a mediocre QB and have big contracts with several players that really aren’t that good anymore. Rebuilding should start next year but after they win 6 games or so they’ll probably give the group one more year and they’ll be so bad it will be undeniable…..1st pick 2020

  39. I’ve never seen a professional athlete get whooped as badly as Anthony Barr did last night. I don’t even think it’s his fault, how can a coaching staff put a linebacker in position to cover top shelf WR all game?

  40. Barr=terrible. Rhodes=penalty. Wayans= china doll. Griffen= MIA. Alexander= waste of pick. Hunter= overpaid. Joseph= overrated. What do they all have in common- Rick Spielman.

    Agree with you for the most part, but Hunter has been incredible this year.

  41. datdude84 says:
    September 28, 2018 at 8:10 am
    May be hard for Vikings fans to accept but they were exposed last year in the second half of the divisional round. It continued to the next week where they again got destroyed. Defense appears to be getting worse each week. They better fix it because a bad oline and bad defense isn’t a recipe of a playoff team let alone a super bowl team. Rhodes are wide opened right
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    The Viking’s didn’t get exposed. That’s such a stupid word that fans use. Talent wins games, not “exposing” schemes.

    We played the Saints who have a HOF QB and puts lots of points up most of the times. The Eagles destroyed lots of secondarys last year. Lots of points were scored in other games to last year. Like the Panthers game, Steelers game, Redskins game. Were they exposed than? The fact is players are just not playing good consistently this year.

    The Rams have an amazing offense so give them credit where it’s due, but they should have been better against Buffalo, Green bay with a hobbled A Rodge, and even in the 49ers game they were not good.

  42. Much like the 2016 Arizona Cardinals I think the Vikings got a little to comfortable reading their own pressing clippings this offseason predicting them as Super-Bowl Champions.

  43. Zim, You forgotten more about football defenses then I’ll ever know but… Go back to what got you here. I’ve watched every Vikings game this year. what happened to the double A gap blitz? Bring it back.

  44. Barr was covering receivers because the rams put him in that position. It was never a design by zimmer to have Barr defend cooks or woods. Zimmer got outcoached. Zimmers defense has been figured out by the league. You could see this last year when they played the panthers. It got worse and worse when they played good quarterbacks. The eagles game was supposed to be where zimmer worked on fixing the problems. He has failed. And I don’t see a fix coming. The elite quarterbacks are going to tear them up.

  45. charliecharger says:
    September 28, 2018 at 7:39 am
    Zimmer will look at the tape and have a different evaluation. His cover guys actually did a pretty good job. Jared Goff was fitting his throws into tight spots all night. He was literally threading the needle. There is no defense for a perfect pass, and last night proved that theory right. Give Goff credit for last night. If Goff continues to play like that, we have a new superstar QB on our hands. The duo of Sean McVay and Jared Goff looks unbeatable right now. You can’t cover much better than the Vikings did last night. Goff looks like Joe Montana.
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    What game were you watching? Goff was making wide open throws all night long, the Vikings were just horrible last night. Barr was used and abused all night long. Goff made some nice throws, but he was getting a lot of wide open reads as well as multiple blown coverages on the Vikings part. Zimmer was out schemed by McVay & the Rams capitalized on defensive mistakes the Vikings made in coverage. The Vikings need to tighten their defense up.

  46. I think you are neglecting that all of Cupps major catches came with Barr in coverage. I never understood why teams run 4-3 against 3 wr set

    kevines255 says:
    September 28, 2018 at 6:46 am
    xiiprestige says:

    September 28, 2018 at 6:15 am

    I would just like to know why a LB is on the Speedy WR? I mean how can you be that dumb.

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    I think you underestimate McVay. Do you really think Zimmer’s game plan was to play Barr on Cupp all night? If you aren’t aware, the Rams have 3 really good WRs and a great pass catching running back. McVay and Goff were moving guys around to get favorable matchups, it’s not because Zimmer is just too stupid to figure it out. All that being said, Barr has been bad this year. There is a reason he is the one guy on that defense not to get an extension. Last year he was the 7th or 8th best player on the defense but is highly overrated because he is the guy that knocked Rodgers out.

  47. Rams averaged a first down every play. I’ve never seen that before even with the worst defenses the Vikings have had. And zimmer has stated he doesn’t know how to fix it. Zimmer could find himself fired after this season. Everybody said the cousins experiment would doom the Vikings but cousins is the only reason they have a chance. It’s the defense that’s going to doom them. They had all offseason to fix the glaring problems of leaving receivers and tight ends wide open. It’s only become worse. Every time. I see a quarterback run a bootleg, I know a first down or huge play is coming. Our linebackers are constantly out of position. Safeties are looking for big hits (sandejo) or big pick (Smith) and leaving corners and linebackers in coverage out to dry.

  48. fofrenchy says:
    September 28, 2018 at 9:26 am
    Vikings defence has been horrible since mid 2nd quarter in the New Orleans playoff game. Several players are slipping fast, Joseph, Rhodes, Kendricks, but none as much as Barr. Also Griffen was a force for most of last year until injuries made him pretty avg at the end of the year. Now he’s gone completely.

    Life comes at you fast. Vikes saddled themselves with an 84 million guaranteed contract to a mediocre QB and have big contracts with several players that really aren’t that good anymore. Rebuilding should start next year but after they win 6 games or so they’ll probably give the group one more year and they’ll be so bad it will be undeniable…..1st pick 2020
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    That $84M Dollar QB looked damn good last night, he managed to put up 30+ points on a good defense on the road with zero run game behind a bad O-Line. That loss was not on Kirk Cousins, the Vikings defense was horrible last night. The loss is on that “Vaunted Defense” not Kirk.

  49. Comparing this blowout and the 5 passing TDs to the NFCCG isn’t entirely accurate. The World Champs had a little more balance in their dominance. Remember Blount running right over Sendejo like he was a doormat? Lol. The defense even got in the fun with PRob’s pick 6. “Robinson looks for a block…GETS IT!”

  50. That result was all on Zimmer and not putting his players in position to have success. When Goff says they pretty much had the look on D all night long that they expected for each play, you’ve become predictable and flustered. The only team not putting the ball in the end zone on the Vikes was GB, because they don’t run a similar offense to SF, Buff and LA. Lots of motion, deception, and great execution. MN LB’s and slot CB are not reading this crap soon enough and making adjustments. Newman was invaluable in that way. Gurley is the best back in FB too. That team is loaded on offense, but they have holes on D. No team clinches a playoff berth in Sept but Zim needs to bench Sendejo, Barr and Compton to shake some things up. Sherels to IR and Newman comes out of retirement? Why did they even sign Iloka??

  51. Does anyone here bother watching and listening to buck and aikman? It was an obvious blown coverage by Mackenzie Alexander and bore at least attempted to pick cup up that’s what happened. Are people stupid enough to really believe Zimmer design that coverage.wow.

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    xiiprestige says:

    September 28, 2018 at 6:15 am
    I would just like to know why a LB is on the Speedy WR? I mean how can you be that dumb.

  52. The most interesting thing about this thread is reading the Vikings fans pathetically list as many excuses as they can to rationalize their team playing like a pile of hot garbage through the first quarter of the season. It’s been an embarrassment all around: front office, coaching (or lack thereof), and the players. Hey, at least the equipment guys seem to be doing a good job.

    I never bought into all the preseason hype around this team, but all those “experts” who predicted the Vikings in the superbowl must be as embarrassed as Anthony Barr being hurdled by Josh Allen last week and getting toasted for 3 long TDs last night. #SKOLOLOLOL

  53. It’s hard to argue with almost anything that’s been written here. I was pleased when they made moves to deal with the kicking situation. But that’s an easy fix. I agree with the people who think there’s a coaching/scheme issue here. I couldn’t find a safety with help when there is a linebacker on a wide receiver. I thought Iloka was supposed to be able to do both. It is clear that the league has figured out the Vikings defense. I also think there are some personal issues although I can’t single out Barr for not being able to catch a wide receiver. But somebody isn’t doing their job. Probably multiple some buddies. Now comes the hard part it’s time for Zimmer to do his. get it done Mike, expectations are way too high, for a performance that is way too low.

  54. Ryan says:
    September 28, 2018 at 7:39 am

    Most of the issue is coaching, consistently the Vikings didn’t have enough DBs on the field and were forced to cover a WR with a LB.
    It seems that Zimmer gas been figured out.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    It’s always nice to have a Lions troll chime in and lecture / comment about a respectable franchise when his team has been figured out since 1957 and the laughing stock of the NFCN for six decades.
    ————
    The vikings have the exact same number of Super Bowl wins as the Lions during that time.

  55. JayZee says:
    September 28, 2018 at 7:58 am

    Dont take it personal Zimm..the Rams wide receivers have made every secondary look pretty dumb. Too much speed and a great running back who can catch too. It’s gonna take a special defense to stop them.

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    Just for the fun of it- let’s flop things. Let’s have the Rams head to Minneapolis on a short week.

    Do you really think the results would be the same as last night? It was a 1 score game. How quickly you forget what happened to the Rams just last season in Minneapolis.

  56. Dom Capers came to GB in 2009 and instantly took the 26th ranked defense to number 2. They stayed at or near the top for a couple more years, even winning a Super Bowl. Nobody had answers for Capers’ “exotic” blitzes… until they did. By year 5, they also figured out Capers’ soft zones and that once-great defense plummeted. They kept plugging in different guys in the backfield but it didn’t help. Capers didn’t adjust. His (at one time) new and exciting defense became old hat; yesterday’s news; nothing to write home about. Now he’s gone.

    Does this timeline sound at all familiar? The game evolves on an almost weekly basis. Some coaches evolve with it, some don’t. Zimmer will or he won’t. Only time will tell.

  57. It’s on your head Zimmer….you overrated hack!
    You publicly call out your players, never taking personal responsibility.
    You can’t manage the clock to save your life.
    I as a long time fan and season ticket holder, am ready for a change at the top.
    You don’t got it!

  58. There is no defense in the NFL because the league and its fans want it that way. Unless fans are willing to embrace 9-6 snoozefests like we saw in Jacksonville this past weekend, THIS is the new normal. In last year’s Super Bowl, two championship teams ran up over 1000 yards. The Rams were better last night but their day is coming, too.

  59. bordner says:
    September 28, 2018 at 10:48 am

    Ryan says:
    September 28, 2018 at 7:39 am

    Most of the issue is coaching, consistently the Vikings didn’t have enough DBs on the field and were forced to cover a WR with a LB.
    It seems that Zimmer gas been figured out.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    It’s always nice to have a Lions troll chime in and lecture / comment about a respectable franchise when his team has been figured out since 1957 and the laughing stock of the NFCN for six decades.
    ————
    The vikings have the exact same number of Super Bowl wins as the Lions during that time
    ——-
    At least the Lions have 4 Championships…Vikes can’t say that.

  60. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    September 28, 2018 at 11:08 am

    Does this timeline sound at all familiar? The game evolves on an almost weekly basis. Some coaches evolve with it, some don’t. Zimmer will or he won’t. Only time will tell.

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    nope D coordinator for 5 years in Cincy, now Vikes HC for another 5. The key difference is for this scheme to be successful you have to generate a pass rush with 4 rushers, when you don’t have Griffen on this roster (or healthy) this team is not able to do that, and therefore it puts more stress on the backend of the D.

    The bad news for Vikings fans as I would think it would be a big surprise to see Ev back on the field, he needs to take care of himself and his family first. He doesn’t get the credit he deserves as he is the straw that stirs the drink as they say.

    The good news is NFC north is wide open and it looks like 10-11 wins will get you the division title, which has to be their goal now because I don’t think 2 teams from this division make the playoffs based on what we have seen the first 3 weeks.

  61. A few points I’m seeing,

    Zimmer reminds me of mccarthy sometimes, bad to no adjustments in game. He needs to be more fluent.

    This defense is exposed, and the scheme has a blueprint to beat it. Now is where coaches make their money or get fired.

    If the scheme is what really made this team dominant, than the talent is the issue, and the GM Spielman is now the culprit.

    Couple that with the next 3 years of cap, its going to be hard to fill gaps with quality free agents if it comes down to it.

    Cousins will need to be a top 5 qb to keep them in games going forward if this coaching staff doesnt get this defense playing better.

    Even then, this division looks pretty middle of the road, and whoever gets to the postseason looks like an early and harsh first game blowout.

    Obviously any North team could get it going, but through the first 3 games, no championship ball being played in this division…

  62. When the vikings schedule came out it was easy to see that their losses would be at packers, at rams, at eagles and at patriots and then a couple others. So things are sort of going as planned. Things are tougher when you play the best teams.

  63. xiiprestige says:
    September 28, 2018 at 6:15 am
    I would just like to know why a LB is on the Speedy WR? I mean how can you be that dumb.

    =====

    Zimmer’s not the only brainiac in this league who constantly/repeatedly thinks it’s a great idea to match up a rush linebacker with a quick or speedy receiver out in the flat or up the seam or down the hashmark.

    “This will really fool them, when I send Barr/Houston/Miller off to cover their slot receiver, instead of rushing the QB.”

    Been watching that stupidity in Kansas City since the arrival of Andy Reid & Bob Sutton.

    Makes you want to throw the remote at the Sony.

  64. Offensive line was ignored in the offseason and the draft. it is the biggest weakness on the team next the inept defense. The offense is one dimensional…if a team gets to Cousins, there is no chance. (See Bills game). Cousins will probably throw for over 5000 yards this year if he stays healthy…which also means that Cousins, Adam Thielen, Stefon Diggs, and Kyle Rudolph will go to the Pro Bowl with gaudy stats from a team that will finish 8-7-1 and be home for the playoffs. Sad but true my fellow Viking fans.

  65. Zimmer will get the defense figured out. Coverage wasn’t great, but with little pass rush and Goff throwing near perfect passes, it was hard to stop. Dline has to get pressure with Griffen out. Pleased that Cousins could keep up with high octane LA offense. Refs cost Vikings 7 points by blowing the Theilen pass dead when he wasn’t touched down and would’ve scored a touchdown (4 point difference) and when the picked up the flag for an obvious block in the back (which led to a LA FG, 3 points). Check back in January when the Vikings will have still won the division. In fact Vikings and Bears will be the only two squads with a winning record in the NFC North….

  66. Vikings were overrated last year and way overrated coming into this season. They should not have advanced to the NFCCG last year (fluke play against a far better team) and got exposed then. This year? KC is not very good (had good game last night, but overall) yet they reset the market with his $84M fully guaranteed contract. Defense isn’t any good. Tied a bad Packers team.I think they are right where they need to be – and falling. SKOL!

  67. Dalvins_Torn_ACL says:
    September 28, 2018 at 6:49 am
    But, but, but…!!! This is the greatest defense ever assembled! How do we suck this much??!! We were a lock to win this division!

    ——————————-

    The Vikings will still win the division, because overall it’s just not that good of a division. So what’s your point?

  68. Why was undrafted rookie Holton Hill in the game so much? Even when Rhodes was in the game, Hill was in there too. You can’t expect the announcers to tell you anything and I haven’t heard anything about it postgame. Waynes has gone out with an injury in three games. Alexander hasn’t improved since last year. Rhodes is no longer an All-Pro player. If they have to count on two rookie cornerbacks, one of whom was undrafted, they aren’t going to stop anybody.

  69. andrwken says:
    September 28, 2018 at 11:34 am
    A few points I’m seeing,

    Zimmer reminds me of mccarthy sometimes, bad to no adjustments in game. He needs to be more fluent.

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    You install scheme during training camp for particular team and how to make those schemes work. You can’t throw everything out in ten minutes at half time.

    This defense is exposed, and the scheme has a blueprint to beat it. Now is where coaches make their money or get fired.

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    Not so much exposed as keeping personnel healthy and having the right guy for the right position. Its no secret most NFL defenses are based on the same principal, Nickel,Base,Cover 2 and 3.

    If the scheme is what really made this team dominant, than the talent is the issue, and the GM Spielman is now the culprit.

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    How, Rhodes was terrible his first year. Hughes has been practicing at Nickel all week. As a rookie he’s trying to wrapped his head around everything. When Waynes goes out he moves over. Wgy isn’t Iloka been put in.

    Couple that with the next 3 years of cap, its going to be hard to fill gaps with quality free agents if it comes down to it.

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    Most of the guys are signed with the exception of Barr. With the new stadium and the TCO Center it won’t be hard to get FA in the building. With the talent the Vikings have signed I would bee surprised they are a major player in the FA Market. Example of this is Dan Bailey, he had other offers but chose the Vikes.

    Cousins will need to be a top 5 qb to keep them in games going forward if this coaching staff doesnt get this defense playing better.

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    Cousins has looked fine and so far has played as advertised.

    Even then, this division looks pretty middle of the road, and whoever gets to the postseason looks like an early and harsh first game blowout.

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    Remember the 9-7 Giants won Super Bowl 46, Its who get hot at the right time. Just make the play-offs.

    Obviously any North team could get it going, but through the first 3 games, no championship ball being played in this division…

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    Again its only the 4th game, 25% of the season gone. Cousins is tearing it up, get the running game going and shore up the D, which I think they can do. The Vikings will be competitive and will make the play-offs.

  70. mnvikes1961 says:
    September 28, 2018 at 11:05 am
    JayZee says:
    September 28, 2018 at 7:58 am

    Dont take it personal Zimm..the Rams wide receivers have made every secondary look pretty dumb. Too much speed and a great running back who can catch too. It’s gonna take a special defense to stop them.

    _________

    Just for the fun of it- let’s flop things. Let’s have the Rams head to Minneapolis on a short week.

    Do you really think the results would be the same as last night? It was a 1 score game. How quickly you forget what happened to the Rams just last season in Minneapolis.

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    How quickly you forgot what happened to the Vikings last week against the Bills, at home and with rest. Will you be here all week with that comedy routine?

  71. Cousins looked like a statue on the last play. Just slight movement gives him more time. Plus, he just stands there after the fumble watching the ball roll on the ground.

  72. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    September 28, 2018 at 12:31 pm
    Why was undrafted rookie Holton Hill in the game so much? Even when Rhodes was in the game, Hill was in there too. You can’t expect the announcers to tell you anything and I haven’t heard anything about it postgame. Waynes has gone out with an injury in three games. Alexander hasn’t improved since last year. Rhodes is no longer an All-Pro player. If they have to count on two rookie cornerbacks, one of whom was undrafted, they aren’t going to stop anybody.

    —–

    I know I said it before, but I watched Rhodes at FSU. Always grabby. Even now in the NFL if the refs want to run him out of the game they can. I call him Xavier holds for a reason. His all-pro status is more relevant to how the refs want to call the game and not his skill set. He would be a truly great corner in the Patriots era of holding. Unfortunately last night you saw the ugly side of his tude when they were calling him for it.

  73. Wow, he must really think poorly of the packers pass d then, they gave up 4 easy TD’s to his guy.
    Sorry Zim, but the Packers pass D is the worst in football. they may set records this year for giving up the most yardage, longest pass plays, most touch downs, least amount of 3 and outs, etc.

  74. Maybe, but if the Vikings score touchdowns instead of kicking field goals, and don’t allow that final strip-sack, they could easily have won the game. That’s on other parts of the team.

    When you see a team kicking field goals against such a high-flying opponent, the bell starts tolling.

  75. kevpft says:
    Maybe, but if the Vikings score touchdowns instead of kicking field goals, and don’t allow that final strip-sack, they could easily have won the game. That’s on other parts of the team.
    ==

    If the Vikings score 28 points against the Bills instead of 6 they win that game. If the Vikings kick only field goals but the defense plays much better then Minnesota might still have beaten the Rams. But they didn’t do either thing, which is why they lost both games.
    Maybe the Vikings offense didn’t come up short and the Rams’ defense gave up a lot of yards but was just that good when it had to be?
    Even if the Vikings and gotten TD instead of field goals, their defense still allowed 38 points last night, which hardly refutes Mike Zimmer’s assertion that his pass defense was terrible. That defense has given up almost 25 points per game over the last six dating back to last season’s playoff game against the Saints, including two games of well over 30.
    What happened is what happened. The Vikings had no pass defense, the Rams were the better team and won. Offensive “what-ifs” and “woulda, shoulda, couldas” don’t add up to a hill of beans.

  76. brainranger says:
    September 28, 2018 at 12:51 pm

    mnvikes1961 says:
    September 28, 2018 at 11:05 am
    JayZee says:
    September 28, 2018 at 7:58 am

    Dont take it personal Zimm..the Rams wide receivers have made every secondary look pretty dumb. Too much speed and a great running back who can catch too. It’s gonna take a special defense to stop them.

    _________

    Just for the fun of it- let’s flop things. Let’s have the Rams head to Minneapolis on a short week.

    Do you really think the results would be the same as last night? It was a 1 score game. How quickly you forget what happened to the Rams just last season in Minneapolis.

    ———————————————————————————–

    How quickly you forgot what happened to the Vikings last week against the Bills, at home and with rest. Will you be here all week with that comedy routine?

    ____________

    So you must be trying to convince me the Rams are terrible then. The Rams, at home, won by only a single score- against a Vikings team that lost to the lowly Bills at home and with rest. I disagree with you, I think the Rams are a very good team. Keep your chin up.

  77. brainranger says:
    September 28, 2018 at 12:51 pm

    mnvikes1961 says:
    September 28, 2018 at 11:05 am

    JayZee says:
    September 28, 2018 at 7:58 am

    Dont take it personal Zimm..the Rams wide receivers have made every secondary look pretty dumb. Too much speed and a great running back who can catch too. It’s gonna take a special defense to stop them.

    _________

    Just for the fun of it- let’s flop things. Let’s have the Rams head to Minneapolis on a short week.

    Do you really think the results would be the same as last night? It was a 1 score game. How quickly you forget what happened to the Rams just last season in Minneapolis.

    ———————————————————————————–

    How quickly you forgot what happened to the Vikings last week against the Bills, at home and with rest. Will you be here all week with that comedy routine?

    ____________

    So you must be trying to convince me the Rams are terrible then. The Rams, at home, won by only a single score- against a Vikings team that lost to the lowly Bills at home and with rest. I disagree with you, I think the Rams are a very good team. Keep your chin up, funny guy.

  78. Can anybody tell me why Packer fans are trolling the Vikings when they have the same record while playing a much softer schedule?
    And they have the guts to call US trolls!

    BUT I am wondering why Edwards is never mentioned? He IS the Defensive Coordinator for peat sake!

  79. Stop with the continual talk about bad defense in the second half in the Saints playoff game. Brees had two short field TD’s in the second half.Due to a blocked punt and a bad pick thrown by Case. And when the Saints went for it on 4th and one the defense stopped them.Yeah that defense was horrible in the second half because they gave up one legitimate drive that game.

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