Mike Zimmer: We’re going to shore up some things and go from there

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Vikings coach Mike Zimmer said on Thursday night that his team’s pass defense was as poor as he’s ever seen and added that he’s “been concerned all year long” about the overall defensive play.

On Friday, Zimmer’s concern remains but he made it clear that he’s not panicked about the team’s 1-2-1 start to the season. Zimmer said he believes that the Vikings will be able to beat anyone “if we put it all together,” but knows that it may take some time before that happens.

“I mean, I figured that was going to be the case,” Zimmer said, via the team’s website. “Everybody forgets we were 2-2 last year at this time. We’ll just keep fighting and playing. Just because everybody expected us to be 4-0 at this time or whatever doesn’t mean that’s realistic. We’re just going to keep fighting, and we’re going to shore up some things, continue to get better and go from there.”

The Vikings will get a few extra days to prepare before heading to Philadelphia in Week Five and the schedule than eases up a bit for a couple of weeks with games against the Cardinals and Jets. They then move on to face the Saints to wrap up the first half of the season and hopes for the same kind of success they enjoyed last season may go unrealized if everything hasn’t fallen into place by then.

82 responses to “Mike Zimmer: We’re going to shore up some things and go from there

  1. I’m a Vikings fan and saying to “shore up some things” is sort of like saying they’re going to plug the dam up with their their fingers.

    The last half of the saints game and the entire NFC championship game were no fluke, Zimmer had the entire offseason to get things corrected.

  2. Stop blitzing Harrison Smith! Every time they sent him the Vikings gave up a touchdown.

    I agree with blitzing safeties but I’d rather send Sendejo who can hit hard but can’t cover.

  3. Alan Light says:
    4-3-1 at the half, 11-5 end of season…no panic here….
    Wow, how are you going to eliminate the tie?

  4. “the schedule than eases up a bit for a couple of weeks with games against the Cardinals and Jets. ” The trouble is that it eased up a bit a week ago against the Bills, and look how that turned out. I am not prepared to say the sky is falling, but I am getting that sinking feeling that this is not an easy fix. Too many teams now have exploited this defense going back to last year. It is hard to believe this is simply a player out of position or a mistake on a read. On top of that, our D line got man handled by Buffalo as well. I don’t know what is wrong, I don’t know enough football for that, but I fear that that the weak areas of this defense are now common knowledge and if that is the case, we will need a lot more than cleaning up some things. Here’s hoping my football knowledge is is faulty on this one and the sky isn’t falling.

  5. wiscoregon2 says:

    September 28, 2018 at 5:46 pm

    That score was surprising considering the Vikings have the best defense ever assembled.

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    You clowns really need to stop saying that. No Vikings fans have said that, it’s only Packers saying that. And last year the Vikings had the number 1 ranked defense. That’s simply the numbers, that isn’t something Vikings fans are just making up. And shouldn’t you be worried about your own team? Didn’t you just lose to the Redskins?

    But on the topic, as a Vikings fan, I’m very afraid. Since the 2nd half of that Saints game it’s a completely different defense, but it’s the same guys. It’s not like it’s a new revamped defense with a new coach or something. They just all of a sudden can’t cover guys…

  6. I’ve told my wife after games like Thursday and the previous Sunday that I can understand when a team loses by being out-coached, don’t have good players, or injuries.

    What drives me nuts is losing due to bonehead play, stupid mistakes, and a lack of effort. You can chalk up the Buffalo loss mostly to 3 unnecessary penalties early on. They were down 17-0 in less than 8 minutes. It never got better.

    Thursday is another matter. How do you put a LB on a WR and expect him to cover? Barr got torched at least three times. Guys were out of position repeatedly. After a while, you can’t even get upset anymore. You just scratch your head and turn it off.

  7. Shore a few things up? Offensive line, running game, secondary and LBs, run defense, lack of a pass rush, fumbling quarterback, a terrible coach and the inability to show up for the big games – like NFC championship game. Other than that, the Vikes are pretty much golden.

  8. They just need to get their chemistry going. And in place. And really just need to correct some things. Kirk Cousins can’t do it by himself. Need help out there.

  9. Rams great defense gave up 31 !!! to a team that only got 6 against the Bills,what does that say about Rams D ?

  10. When you look back, most great defenses don’t last more than 3-4 years even with low turnover. Seattle and Denver are two recent teams that come to mind. Eventually an offense is going to figure it out if you keep showing them the same looks for several years. And Barr wasn’t supposed to be covering those wideouts. The rams created mismatches the Vikings can’t seem to correct. That’s the problem: their inability to adjust to a problem that was exposed at the end of last year. I don’t believe they can patch this problem up in 10 days when they had 7 months to fix it after the eagles game.

  11. They will finish 9-6-1 and get in as the 6th seed.

    Barr’s been atrocious. Last year when we beat LA we sent an extra guy 35% of snaps. Last nite we did it 5%.

    This is a Leslie Frazier defense at the moment…

    SKOL

  12. I love Zim but I think the best thing he can do is give up defensive play calling to DC Patterson, so he can better manage all aspects of team play. Maybe if he stepped back a bit, he’d be better at game time adjustments. Seems like they always wait too long to adjust.

  13. @mclovin07 – It’s what I’ve been thinking too. Leslie Frasier defense. Seems old, too reliant on a front 4 that doesn’t generate enough consistent pressure, even if it does get sacks from time to time. Rarely blitzes and gets gashed by Tight Ends and allows chunk runs up the middle of 4, 5, 6 yards that makes 2nd down short yardage and opens up play action.

    I’d swear it was cover-2. Where’s that double a gap blitz?

  14. So, have I got this right? Zimmer is using the fact that the team has won only half as many games as they had this time last year as a reason for fans not to panic?

    With the Eagles up next, the Vikings are staring at a 1-3-1 start to the year, and are saddled with an $84m contract for a QB who has fumbled away the football 3 times in the last two losses.

    I’d say it’s time for Zim to break the glass on that panic button.

  15. It’s not a top-5 defense anymore but it isn’t going to be as bad as it’s looked the last couple of games either. If Waynes could stay healthy and Hughes gets things figured out with experience, they’ll still be an above-average defense. Last year they needed to be lights out on defense to win; this year they have the offense to win a high-scoring game.

  16. Shore up some things? Just the last 2 first halves of football they have given up 55 points. Add a terrible OL to that and you’ve got some big problems Zim!

  17. So we’re all still waiting for the NFL’s investigation into Zimmer’s actions of fudging with the injury report.
    It’s quite obvious now that Everson Griffen wasn’t suffering from any toe injury.

    Normally this would result in a fine, suspension or loss of draft picks, but since the Barneys are one of the NFL’s most protected franchises, I’m sure this whole incident will be conveniently swept under the rug as usual.

  18. The next four games will give us a good indication of what the rest of the year will be. I thought that he should’ve replaced Barr with a db. I thought that the blitzes were too obvious and the defensive backs not making plays on the ball has always irritated me. Look at how the Ram’s db knocked the ball away, Wayne’s was that close and he watched it in. The lack of going for the bomb when we had decent pass protection, the lack of aggressive play calling is infuriating when the other team.is throwing the bomb on 4th down. The best consolation is watching them crush the Packers and laughing at the jerk Packer fans that have nothing better to do in life than troll us.

  19. The other things is the RPO. Is Zimmer so snake bit by it that that’s why all of those screen passes worked? it seems like we bit every single time they were run.

  20. cheeseisfattening says:
    September 28, 2018 at 7:35 pm
    Thank God he did not say all he needed to do was fix pad levels.
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    Yes, because saying that, you’re going to keep on fighting and shore some things up, is so much more profound. skoLOL!!!
    No wonder you guys love him so.

  21. filthymcnasty3
    Sep 28, 2018, 5:46 PM EDT
    Seriously???

    Zimmer sounds like he belongs in the Shady Acres rest home.
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    You need to worry about McCarthy. That’s a lot to worry about. I’ll focus on Zimmer……deal!?

  22. wafflestomp
    Sep 28, 2018, 7:30 PM EDT
    So we’re all still waiting for the NFL’s investigation into Zimmer’s actions of fudging with the injury report.
    It’s quite obvious now that Everson Griffen wasn’t suffering from any toe injury.

    Normally this would result in a fine, suspension or loss of draft picks, but since the Barneys are one of the NFL’s most protected franchises, I’m sure this whole incident will be conveniently swept under the rug as usual.
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Dear Obsessed,
    It was a knee not a toe. But while we’re on the subject matter…..by NFL rule since GB lied at the end of last year Erin should have by rule become a free agent. It must be that Grandfathered in stuff again huh? Like the dumb leap?
    Anyhow you need to put more effort and concern into how AP just stomped all over your boys!!

  23. pkrlvr
    Sep 28, 2018, 8:18 PM EDT
    All this bad defense is driving Everson Griffin crazy
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Well it’s Griffen but again I wouldn’t expect proper research or grammar by your affluent self.
    Worry about how Matthew’s can’t understand the newly implied NFL rules.
    1.) Steroids are not permitted.
    2.) They make you to not be able to comprehend how to sack a quarterback.
    3) Now cry foul about it

  24. Get off the ledge. The Vikings are 4 games into a 16 game season. Between the practice rules that came into effect with the latest CBA and starters playing less and less in the preseason each year, the first 4 games have come to feel like an extension of the preseason. They tell us very little, if anything. If it were up to me, the first 4 weeks would be when all the interconference nonsense would take place. Let the teams get “tuned up” in the least meaningful games of the year. Play the first Divisional games in weeks 5-7, and play the second Divisional games in weeks 15-17.

  25. chris1cat says:
    September 28, 2018 at 8:10 pm
    wafflestomp
    Sep 28, 2018, 7:30 PM EDT
    So we’re all still waiting for the NFL’s investigation into Zimmer’s actions of fudging with the injury report.
    It’s quite obvious now that Everson Griffen wasn’t suffering from any toe injury.

    Normally this would result in a fine, suspension or loss of draft picks, but since the Barneys are one of the NFL’s most protected franchises, I’m sure this whole incident will be conveniently swept under the rug as usual.
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Dear Obsessed,
    It was a knee not a toe. But while we’re on the subject matter…..by NFL rule since GB lied at the end of last year Erin should have by rule become a free agent. It must be that Grandfathered in stuff again huh? Like the dumb leap?
    Anyhow you need to put more effort and concern into how AP just stomped all over your boys!!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The very first indication that something was up with Griffen was when Zimmer put Griffen on the injury report with a toe injury… and then Griffen promptly came out and said he was 100% healthy and had no idea what Zimmer was talking about.

    Don’t ya just hate that? Getting all up on your high horse only to be bucked off and landing face first in a pile of horse apples?

  26. Barr is Not a Good Linebacker! He Needs to be Moved to Defensive End Like Chris Doleman!!! It worked Great and he could be Unstoppable! Barr so far has been FOOLSGOLD! I am worried that Cousins may be that too!?! What we did to On Your Case Keenum was Not Right. He is a Top 5 QB in this league if given a Proper Chance. Giving his number to a KICKER was NOT a good idea!!! Maybe the MVP of 2017…..

  27. Le’Veon Bell is getting PAID since vikings idea’s of “shoring things up” is to give someone a huge contract when you have someone comparable all ready on the team.

  28. Since halftime of the Vikings’ playoff win over the Saints last season, Minnesota has given up 172 points and 2,191 yards in 5.5 games. That comes out to 31.3 points and 398.4 yards per game. This is supposedly the same team that finished first in total defense (275.9 yards per game) and scoring defense (15.8 points per game) last season.

  29. No worries Mike. You were defeated by the team that will win this year’s Super Bowl and that will be anointed as the best team of all-time by state TV…….

  30. jppt1974 says:
    September 28, 2018 at 6:14 pm
    They just need to get their chemistry going. And in place. And really just need to correct some things. Kirk Cousins can’t do it by himself. Need help out there.

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    That’s the frustrating thing about Kirk. He will always do just enough to make it look like it’s not him. He piles up stats while his team loses, it’s just what he does.

    I know this is new to Vikes fans and it looked close, but I’ve been watching Cousins for 4 years and at no point during Thursday’s game did I expect them to win that game.

  31. 1-2-1 and were 2-2 this time last season… don’t worry… we’ll you should! You are not playing the toothless Bears, Rodgerless Packers, or the winless Browns. That was 5 of your wins. You will be like the Chiefs or Cowboys in the playoffs, one and done.

  32. wafflestomp says:
    September 28, 2018 at 7:30 pm

    So we’re all still waiting for the NFL’s investigation into Zimmer’s actions of fudging with the injury report.
    It’s quite obvious now that Everson Griffen wasn’t suffering from any toe injury.

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    Yeah, because it’s physically impossible for these two things happen simultaneously. Thanks doc.

  33. It’s called regression to the mean. In the simplest terms, it means everything went right last year and this year is more reflective of the talent on the roster but in order to accept that, you need a measure of objectivity. Something that is sorely lacking among the Viking fan base.

  34. Well, let’s see…. what can they do? ….
    Give a #1 draft pick to another team for a QB who can’t stay on the field? …. no, tried that already. …..
    Sign a formerly great 39 year old QB who used to play for their #1 rival? …. no, they tried that, too.
    Over-pay for another QB who has never won anything and has had fumblitis his whole career? … no, have that already.
    Give about 5 players and a whole bunch of draft picks to the Cowboys for a RB? … no, tried that already, too.
    Gee Mr. Zimmer. As hard as I tried, I can’t find any way to help you. Sorry.

  35. For $26 million more than Kirk’s $85 million contract they can upgrade to Alex Smith – the $111 million dollar man. Alex would apparently be doing wonderful things but he just doesn’t have receivers. Except I guess the ones Kirk got 4000 plus yards out of…but he scrambles when his checkdown isn’t there so he’s an upgrade I’m told.

  36. firerogergoodell says:
    September 28, 2018 at 6:00 pm
    For the record I’d still take Zimmer over any coach in the NFL besides Bill Belichick.

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    If there’s one thing I don’t get, it’s this kind of reverence for Zim. He hasn’t won a thing yet. His defense came up VERY small on the biggest stage he’s occupied yet, and did so against a career backup, no less. Let’s not crown him just yet.

  37. Nothing in the nfl is a fluke. This kind of stuff happens some every team, just gotta keep preaching and correct things. On the play Barr got torched, that’s some one else’s job but no one cover the wr so Barr had to chase him. Some corner or safety blew the coverage. Not Barr’s responsibility.

  38. Nothing in the nfl is a fluke. This kind of stuff happens some every team, just gotta keep preaching and correct things. On the play Barr got torched, that’s some one else’s job but no one cover the wr so Barr had to chase him. Some corner or safety blew the coverage. Not Barr’s responsibility. That being said they need Griffen’s leadership and his present to put pressure on the qb. They had no pressure in those two games without him.

  39. Nothing in the nfl is a fluke. This kind of stuff happens to every team, just gotta keep preaching and correct things. On the play Barr got torched, that’s some one else’s job but no one cover the wr so Barr had to chase him. Some corner or safety blew the coverage. Not Barr’s responsibility. That being said they need Griffen’s leadership and his present to put pressure on the qb. They had no pressure in those two games without him.

  40. Everyone is saying Barr is having a bad year.. But what coach mans Barr up to Cooper Kup and gives up a TD.. than later has Barr man up Robert Woods and gives another TD. Putting a Linebacker twice on two of the fastest players in the NFL is POOR,TERRIBLE, UNACCEPTABLE coaching. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. And as for someone saying stop blitzing Harrison, before they started blitzing him they got shredded… Once they started blitzing Harrison you could see it started giving the Rams oline fits. Yeah they got burnt bringing Harrison but It’s just the Vikes DLline misses Griffin and isn’t the same without him period. Play action and Not staying contained on Goff is what cost the Vikes. Goff continued to get to much time. Zimmers seat is getting real real hot.

  41. Trey Waynes is one of the problems. He has trouble covering receivers, and gets torched quite often.
    I’m not sure what the story is w/Rhodes, but he didn’t look like he has in the past, this last Thursday.
    I wont take away from the Rams’ performance, their offense is definitely good.
    I think, if Minnesota can tweak a couple things (O Line & Secondary play) that they could beat the Rams.

  42. And as for Xavier kicking the penalty Flag.. Rhodes should of been benched for a significant amount of time after that. They seemed to play better without him and actually stopped the Rams without Xavier on D. A good coach pulls Rhodes out and sets an example of him to the other players he means business. And not allow Rhodes Cancer to spread and kill the D.

  43. Would love to talk smack about the Vikings here, but the truth is the Rams are really good.
    Their secondary is a weakness, but that’s about it. When Aaron Donald starts going Reggie White in the fourth quarter, who is going to stop him?
    At the moment, everybody is looking up at the Rams.

  44. Rhodes is getting upset because the refs seem to be calling him for holding now, when they haven’t in the past.

    Take away his ability to hold and he’s mediocre at best.

    It’s going to be a long, LONG season for the purples.

    I’m not saying the Packers season will be any better, but the harsh reality is:

    This Vikings defense is terrible.

  45. minneanderthals says:
    September 29, 2018 at 12:09 pm
    Rhodes is getting upset because the refs seem to be calling him for holding now, when they haven’t in the past.

    Take away his ability to hold and he’s mediocre at best.

    It’s going to be a long, LONG season for the purples.

    I’m not saying the Packers season will be any better, but the harsh reality is:

    This Vikings defense is terrible.

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    Yes the Vikings scheme on defense is terrible right now. But the Vikings have multiple pro bowl players on D and I am confident they will turn it around and still win the NFCN. On the other hand, greenbay is still a one trick pony team and that pony is hobbled now. The packer fans will once again watch the playoffs from their couches in their double wides.

  46. Gee Neal, it’s easy to talk when the team you cheer for is doing so great. Oops, you are a pack fan, how did they do in the playoffs last year, your record this year must be amazing, oops the pack is 1-1-1, and is going to lose to the Bills this Sunday. I would keep a low profile if I were you.

  47. codylaws says:
    September 29, 2018 at 9:52

    On the play Barr got torched, that’s some one else’s job but no one cover the wr so Barr had to chase him. Some corner or safety blew the coverage. Not Barr’s responsibility.
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    Teams try to create mismatches, it worked, one of the more common ones teams try to create, teams motion WRs close the OL or TE into a slot position in hopes to get that LB mismatch practically once a drive.

    They created with slick play call a drag route then go, which I don’t know if it was designed as such, or was just the 3 step drop was done and it was a scramble drill occured.

    Barr and Waynes were getting exploiited, not what you want to see from players drafted in the top 12 of each respective class.

  48. They should have kept their old QB, and used the money that they wasted on Cousins on positions of need.

    Cousins did deserve a long term deal, but not the outrageous over the top money he signed for.

  49. vikingdoode says:
    September 29, 2018 at 11:13 am
    I had the Vikes 10-6 before the season but missing the playoffs

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    Right now the NFCN is looking pretty bad. Only one team will make the playoffs and that is the division winner. Vikings may not be 10-6 (9-6-1) but they still will the division and go to the playoffs where anything can happen.

  50. MTLighthouse69 says:
    September 29, 2018 at 5:42 pm
    They should have kept their old QB, and used the money that they wasted on Cousins on positions of need.

    Cousins did deserve a long term deal, but not the outrageous over the top money he signed for

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    Okay lighthouse, you know the Vikings could not resign Keenum to the two million he was making. He signed with the Broncos for 18 million and Cousins is head and shoulders above him. The defense bailed out Keenum many times last year. Keenum was not the reason the Vikings were 13-3 a lot off the credit goes to the defense.

  51. , you know the Vikings could not resign Keenum to the two million he was making. He signed with the Broncos for 18 million and Cousins is head and shoulders above him

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    Is he?

  52. Half Centaur says:
    September 29, 2018 at 9:31 pm
    , you know the Vikings could not resign Keenum to the two million he was making. He signed with the Broncos for 18 million and Cousins is head and shoulders above him

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    Is he?

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    Chad Kelly will start soon for the broncos and Keenum will be paid 18 million a year to hold a clip board. So yes he is. But great insight, looking forward to your obvious answer of “will he”

  53. Panthers, Redskins, Saints, Eagles, Det last year put up easy long passing TD’s against the Vikings D. Many long passes were called back by penalties too. This yr is just a continuation of the porous secondary. If the front 4 doesn’t disrupt the QB and blitzes are picked up the Vikings get gouged. Rhodes misses 2 series every game with cramps or something. Usually right after he gets torched. Smith & Sendejo are big hitters but don’t ask them to cover. Zim needs to stop calling defensive plays. He’s been exposed.

  54. wafflestomp says:
    September 28, 2018 at 7:30 pm
    So we’re all still waiting for the NFL’s investigation into Zimmer’s actions of fudging with the injury report.
    It’s quite obvious now that Everson Griffen wasn’t suffering from any toe injury.

    Normally this would result in a fine, suspension or loss of draft picks, but since the Barneys are one of the NFL’s most protected franchises, I’m sure this whole incident will be conveniently swept under the rug as usual.

    —-

    If that’s the case, shouldn’t Aaron Rodgers be on a different team? The Packers “fudged” the rules by putting Arodge on the IR when no injury happened. By rules he is supposed to go to the Waiver. As a Packer fan I don’t think you should be saying anything about fugdging the rules.

  55. fakevikesfansteve on here saying Harrison Smith can’t cover. Step away from the keyboard. The Vikings have no pass rush. You give NFL QB’s time they will hit long passes on your defense. Hunter is the only threat they have now. And that is the defense’s biggest problem now.

  56. bambam4 says:
    September 28, 2018 at 6:12 pm
    Shore a few things up? Offensive line, running game, secondary and LBs, run defense, lack of a pass rush, fumbling quarterback, a terrible coach and the inability to show up for the big games – like NFC championship game. Other than that, the Vikes are pretty much golden.

    Ok guys relax. No it’s not been pretty, but we are a field goal from being exactly in the same spot we were last year at this point, where we went 13-3. You’re all acting like dramatic teenagers that forget that this is a long season and with the joke of a preseason and lack of starters really getting in form early on league wide now days, you really need to calm down and start grading your team more like week 5. It’s honestly really sad to see so many of my fellow Vikings fans jumping ship like this so quickly. Again, we are a field goal from being 2-2 just like last year. And most of all, just stop with the hate on Zimmer. You have to be kidding me. Your memories are so short and you all seem to be living in the moment on an emotional low having an absolute freak out rather than having faith in a team AND coaching staff that we know to be very high caliber. It’s an absolute joke that you guys are calling for zimmer or spielmans head at this point in the season and I’m embarrassed for you that you have such little faith in players and coaches who have earned far better from us fans. Have you guys completely forgotten what it was like before spielman put this great team together or before Zimmer came in and made us relevant again. A 1-2-1 start is not nearly enough for you all to be acting like this. You’re all so anxious to go back to the way it was before when we couldn’t draft to save our life and our coaching staff was an absolute joke.

  57. Also, yeah Carlson cost us a win in GB, he hits a field goal, we are 2-2. Yes the bills loss is embarrassing, that one hurt. But that rams game should have given you guys some encouragement I mean do you guys realize that that was what appears to be the best offensive team in the league with a really good defense too, and they are firing on all cylinders too. No our defense didn’t play well, but that was a really difficult test too, and truthfully, it seems fixable with it being a scheme issue with Barr getting stuck in coverage on a WR that really killed us. That offense is incredible and was always gonna be a tough matchup. Also it’s gonna be tougher on the defense with us throwing the ball so much now. It appears that we are adjusting to being a passing team and how it affects our defense being an adjustment going from a clock control team to a team that can actually win in a shoot out. And if anything, we should be happy about our offense after the rams game. We hung with the best offense in the league right now and only lost by a touchdown in an absolute thriller. That game should be encouraging to know that our offense will be able to take over against most defenses and win for us when the defense isn’t at its best. No we didn’t win, but our offense showed out in LA and cousins has looked amazing outside of the bills game. You all need to really man up and not quit on your team so fast calling for people’s jobs like that. You’re acting like it’s week 13 and we are out of it. Quite frankly, those of you acting like that don’t deserve to enjoy the teams success if and when they get it going.

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