Kraft blames reports of tension on “envy and jealousy” of the Patriots

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Patriots owner Robert Kraft says people spreading stories of tension within the Patriots organization are jealous.

Kraft said on CNBC that he dismisses any talk that there are any issues between coach Bill Belichick and quarterback Tom Brady.

“We’ve been together 19 years, which is unheard of for a head coach, a quarterback and an ownership group,” Kraft said. “Thankfully, we have had a lot of success and whenever that happens you become a target. We understand that and there is always tensions and issues and different things you’ve got to deal with. That is part of the privilege of owning a team and being successful. I have a little saying that envy and jealously are incurable diseases. You’d rather be a recipient than a donor. That is what is going on now.”

It’s hard to believe that every single report of tension within the Patriots is based on envy and jealousy. But it’s easy to see why Kraft would want to think so.

99 responses to “Kraft blames reports of tension on “envy and jealousy” of the Patriots

  1. He’s right and this is exactly how I felt about Dallas, SF, Pittsburgh when they were on top. It’s not a mystery. Pats are the Yankees, the Celtics, the Canadiens of today. I know what it’s like to be envious.

  2. Hells yeah im jealous!!! I want those rings too. Also want a 19 year coach and quarterback tandem. Anybody who tells you they don’t want their team to be that successful is lying. Still hate the Pats but would like to have what they have. Wouldn’t trade my team for anything though!!!!

  3. He acknowledged there is always tension and issues but than says reports of tension and issues is just jealousy. Either hes a moron or he thinks everyone else is a moron.
    I have a saying too Robert, being rich has never increased anyone’s IQ.

  4. It’s hard to believe that every single report of tension within the Patriots is based on envy..
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    Why? Every single one so far was proven false. Look at all the claims Gronk was fed up with Belichick’s no-fun Patriot Way and wanting a lot more money etc, when we now know the opposite was true. The most explosive likely issues is: maybe Belichick doesn’t like Belichick’s personal trainer – big deal! And that back in 2014 when he drafted JimmyG he thought Brady, the QB who won him 5 rings and 8 SB appearances in 16yrs, would retire after 2017. But the 19yr show goes on. And so does the hate, wrongly, every year since at least 2009. One year it’ll end, and the salty ones will all ridiculously crow “see, we told you it wouldn’t last”. LOL.

  5. It’s not hard to see that at all – this cycle of success and envy permeates all human interaction, in and out of the sports world.

    And he’s correct – 19 years for a HC, Owner and QB is unheard of.

    (Dalls Cowboys) Jerry Jones & the very successful Jimmy Johnson had a falling out.

    (Chicago Bulls) Jerry Reinsdorf, Phil Jackson and Michael Jordan had a falling out.

    (NY Yankess) George Steinbrenner and Joe Girardi….

    NFL is by far the most dramatic and conspiratorial of the major sports leagues – look at the difference between the way the Arizona Cardinals spying went away and the way the NFL has handled their issues.

    Makes sense to me.

  6. “We’ve been together 19 years, which is unheard of for a head coach, a quarterback and an ownership group,” Kraft said.
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    As a Dolphin fan, I can’t stand ’em … but no matter who you root for, that is really an incredible run … a whole lot of folks have come and gone in the league during that time.

  7. Kraft is right.
    As a Bills fan, there is nothing more I want to see than the Pats fall apart, and that should be taken as a compliment for their years of sustained success.
    No matter what anyone may think, what the Pats organization as achieved over the years is nothing short of incredible.
    Now, I hope they lose, and lose big for decades to come!

  8. The Patriots have been successful for many years and jealous people will always be jealous of that.

    Roger Goodell is still hiding the PSI report from the 2015 NFL season and dimwits still believe that someone let air out of footballs.

  9. Fans of other teams are just jealous that we have figured out how to cheat and get away with. Kraft is a genius who was able to make Goodell his puupet.

  10. I think everyone has to admit that there is more chatter this past year from Patriot land then ever before. That ship used to be buttoned down pretty good, but this year especially there has been more noise from NE than at any other time under that regime. Time will tell if it is just “envy and jealousy” or if it is the old “where there’s smoke, there’s fire”.

    I also think some of the other more buttoned up franchise (old guard) have been affected too. Pittsburgh and Green Bay for example have had more news rattling around than I can ever remember. Some is because of how big social media has become, but more of it is because a certain generation of player has hit the NFL and they don’t follow the old guard/veteran way of keeping things in house.

  11. Nobody should be jealous of the pats. Organizations rather win the right way instead of being involved in elaborate cheating schemes. They should never be mentioned when speaking about dynasties in the sport.

  12. Kraft’s lucky if he gets his shoes on the right feet 50% of the time. Of course, what fan wouldn’t want their team to have the success the Patriots have, duh!

  13. I’m not a Packers fan, but Kraft is 100% right. We humans are a peculiar lot. We love to root for the underdog, but once the underdog reaches the top we love to see them fall. So we look for everything and anything which will satisfy our desire to see the king of the hill thrown down the mountain.
    As a Packers fan, I know exactly what Kraft means. The Packers have won more championships than any NFL team and there are people who hate them for that reason alone. The Celtics of the 60’s felt the way Kraft does, the Montreal Canadiens of the 60’s and 70’s felt that way, and the Yankees have always felt that way, too. So did the Steelers of the 70’s and the Cowboys of the 90’s.
    In this day and age where we use everything and throw it away, no one cares enough to enjoy something for a long time. We quickly get tired of it and want something “new and improved”. The Patriots have been the top dog in the NFL for what, the last 15 years? It’s no wonder people hate them. They find every excuse to dismiss what they have done. Well, not me. I think it’s amazing how they’ve been able to do what they’ve done. To win as many games and championships with entirely new casts is just amazing. The Packers have had a pretty good run during this time, as well. But I’d trade what they’ve done for what the Patriots have done in a nano-second. So would fans of all the other teams.

  14. He says that same thing for everything get caught filming,jealousy envy,let the air out of ballls,jealousy and envy,tensions in organization,jealousy and envy only rich people use that excuse to try and shut a topic down most arrogant franchise in sports history another title for you kraft but I know I’m jealous and envious *****

  15. How full of himself can this dude be? No one cares about the Patriots. Fans care about their team, and that’s it. Does he really think a Cardinals fan or a Titans fan or even a Jets fan really cares what’s going on up there? The only time another fan cares about the patriots is when their team plays the patriots. The Patriots “dynasty” is over. Nick Foles beat the daylights out of them in the Superbowl, and the way it looks now there are plenty of teams that will steamroll that porous, garbage defense. The Patriots are just another team.

  16. It’s just football, a sport controlled by rich, old men. Watch and enjoy. There are plenty of real dramas ion the real world

  17. nyneal says:
    September 29, 2018 at 8:47 am
    The Packers have won more championships than any NFL team and there are people who hate them for that reason alone.

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    Actually its the Steelers

  18. Pats best remember for being on the right side of the 2 biggest coaching blunders in NFL History.
    1.Beast Mode not getting the ball at the 1yard line.
    2. Atl not running the ball to kick the FG to put it out of reach.

  19. “Things are so miserable and Gronkowski was so unhappy that he refused to accept a trade to another team and instead threatened to retire if he couldn’t play in NE.”

    I thought that was strange. How could you be happy to play for a team that wanted to trade you?

  20. The truth is Kraft SCREWED THIS UP. He interfered with Bill’s succession plan at quarterback and that’s where everything went wrong. Now Bill and Tom hate each other, there is dysfunction, and it starts at the top. The old man messed up plain and simple.

  21. I’m sure it’s not envy and jealousy, rather it is the moral bankruptcy that seems to be at all levels of the organization from an owner that is willing to bury his head in the sand to avoid acknowledging the cheating to a coach who can’t abide within the rules and a QB who deflates footballs to his competitive advantage.

    When you cheat, people are only jealous that they couldn’t get away with it. The Patriots really need to get back to operating within the rules for a few years straight and then everybody will stop talking about them.

  22. gerard33 says:
    September 29, 2018 at 9:46 am

    The truth is Kraft SCREWED THIS UP. He interfered with Bill’s succession plan at quarterback and that’s where everything went wrong.
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    It never happened. It’s totally made up. It’s nonsense.

    Brady screwed up the so-called “succession plan” by continuing to play well, winning the league MVP award, taking them to another SB and wanting to continue playing.

  23. george1859 says:
    September 29, 2018 at 7:57 am
    Kraft is right.
    As a Bills fan, there is nothing more I want to see than the Pats fall apart, and that should be taken as a compliment for their years of sustained success.
    No matter what anyone may think, what the Pats organization as achieved over the years is nothing short of incredible.
    Now, I hope they lose, and lose big for decades to come!
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    As a Bills fan I applaud Brady as one of the greatest ever QB’s, I applaud the system and its approach to putting the right parts together year after year to achieve the success. As a fan I cannot applaud the fact that the SB victories are, for all time, tainted by cheating….so jealous…no

  24. You work closely with anyone for a long period of time, no matter how successful you are,
    you’re going to get under each others skin.

  25. What fans hate is the non stop crazy call helping the Pats win.

    Think tuck rule, think PI or holding twice during the Ravens game that would have ended the undefeated season, think the crazy batting call in the Miami game a few years back, think the innumerable 3rd down defensive holding penalties, think roughing the QB.

    The Patriots won in a way all of us know was based on equal parts skill, guile, and out and out cheating ( think Ernie Adams ).

    Now tainted or not, they did win so they have that going for them. But some winners garner respect ( think Unitas, Staubach, Starr, Stabler ), and some don’t ( I’m looking at you Brady, Marino, Fabre ).

    And let’s all just admit it, the NFL uses the referees to get outcomes that are favorable to their storylines. So there’s that too and the Patriots have been the perfect villain since 2001.

  26. YES, Mr. Kraft, there is tension and comes from your HC/GM who is so full of himself that he benched the Teams most needed CB in the SuperBowl !!!!!!!!!
    If that wasn’t bad enough he then went on to ‘Hamstring the Offense by letting go of WR Cooks,WR Amendola, RB Lewis and replaced these TALENTED Players with JV Participants. Your GM (Belichick)DESTROYED the Team through Flawed Draft Picks, continually, and has done this Year after Year and yet, you Mr. Kraft, as Owner do nothing.
    Trade Belichick now and REBUILD before Brady retires – Do it NOW……

  27. vaphinfan says:
    September 29, 2018 at 9:13 am
    nyneal says:
    September 29, 2018 at 8:47 am
    The Packers have won more championships than any NFL team and there are people who hate them for that reason alone.
    ____
    Actually its the Steelers

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    The NFL existed before the Super Bowl era. You can read about it in books and there is the odd documentary you can watch as well. It will tell you all about the dominant Packers teams as well as some great Bears, Browns and then some odd stories involving the Lions, Eagles, Steelers and even the Steagles!

  28. Kraft is an ok owner. Belichick is a good coach. Brady is the reason they’ve won five super bowls. Sure they’ve cheated a lot. Other teams cheat too. They’re like Barry Bonds. The best ones always have the biggest target on their chest, even though everyone else is doing the same thing. I don’t think the cheating has helped win championships. That’s all Brady.

  29. Sometimes fans forget atheletes and coaches are human beings, just like the rest of us. All these people saying there’s tension and issues with the Pats are probably upset that their boss didn’t say hi to them in the hallway that day. Every organization deals with tension and other issues all day every day.

  30. johnodocks says:
    September 29, 2018 at 9:41 am
    “Things are so miserable and Gronkowski was so unhappy that he refused to accept a trade to another team and instead threatened to retire if he couldn’t play in NE.”

    I thought that was strange. How could you be happy to play for a team that wanted to trade you

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    Dude, the other team was Detroit, you know the lions that have one playoff win in the last 100 years. If the trade was to LA or. Miami Gronk would be gone.

  31. firemarshal1 says:

    September 29, 2018 at 9:53 am

    Let’s NOT forget all cheating New England has committed over the years. Spying on Rams practice before the Super Bowl game. As one example.
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    Never happened.
    There was only one actual incident that crybabies still call “cheating”…A camera was positioned a few feet from where a poorly worded memo said it needed to be for a portion of the first half of a single game. The memo was interpreted after the fact by the same person who wrote the poorly worded memo. That petty tyrant felt disrespected so he over punished the Patriots.

  32. vikinghooper says:
    September 29, 2018 at 10:07 am
    What fans hate is the non stop crazy call helping the Pats win.

    Think tuck rule, think PI or holding twice during the Ravens game that would have ended the undefeated season, think the crazy batting call in the Miami game a few years back, think the innumerable 3rd down defensive holding penalties, think roughing the QB.

    If you bothered to look it up you’d know that Brady does not get many RTP calls. Middle of the pack at best. Or you could continue to prove Kraft right as have all of those who parrot “cheating” or better “endless cheating. Game, set, match.

  33. He’s correct that when someone is envious of you, they can set out to destroy what you have and take it for themselves. Jealousy is fat and ugly. If successful in creating the drama and destruction it typically blows up in their face by karma. But that’s not really the case here. They have absolutely had issues but I think that’s all normal. Getting through those issues and working as a team is what has kept them successful and rich. If deep rooted problems they would have fallen on their faces and destroyed the dynasty. They would be split up and those at fault would be flat on their faces. Not the case here.

  34. Belichick without Brady is BUST.

    Kraft should immediately take control of the chaos BB has created by starting a Rebuild Campaign that prevents BB from any Personnel decisions. If BB dose not like that, give BB a taste of his own arrogance and TRADE him.

  35. my_old_name_was_offensive says:

    September 29, 2018 at 8:18 am

    We’d rather have fun winning one Superbowl than be the Patriots!
    – Philly
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    After Roger Goodell stole 2 draft picks from the Patriots it makes anyone gloating about Patriots losses look silly. 31 teams begged the commissioner to create league parity and Roger Goodell granted their wishes.

    Now any team that beats the Patriots only earns a participation trophy.

    Any word on when Roger Goodell plans to stop hiding the PSI report that has been hidden from football fans since the 2015 NFL season?

  36. Those who are not capable of understanding 7th grade science will always believe the “cheating” nonsense. A year long media smear campaign can have dimwits believing anything. Any word on when Roger Goodell plans to stop hiding the PSI report that has been hidden from football fans since the 2015 NFL season?

  37. I think the other reason is drama. People may not be jealous of the Patriots but they still are happy to hear stories that they may not be holding it together so well. After all they want the team they cheer for to win.

  38. factpurveyor says:
    September 29, 2018 at 12:28 pm
    Those who are not capable of understanding 7th grade science will always believe the “cheating” nonsense. A year long media smear campaign can have dimwits believing anything. Any word on when Roger Goodell plans to stop hiding the PSI report that has been hidden from football fans since the 2015 NFL season?
    ++++++++++++++++++
    The patriots cheated. You are especially upset over the true findings of the patriots once again cheating. Not so sure why you are shocked. It happened and it’s just another piece of the puzzle which shows the cheating culture in New England.

  39. I’m not ready to smash the panic button yet, I’ll check back after the Miami game. But what bothers me is everyone is looking at this in such a binary way. I know as New England fans we’ve developed a “super bowl or bust” mentality, and I think the franchise has adopted that standard. And that’s a good thing. But in strict reality, to even just be this competitive year in and year out is maybe even more of an accomplishment than the Super Bowls.

    To me, this feels like 2009. 9-7 or 10-6, and a first-round playoff exit. Just not the Pats’ year. The Chiefs look very formidable. The Rams are an absolute WAGON. The Pats defense is getting SHREDDED, I’m not too worried about the Pats offense figuring it out, but I don’t even know what you do about the D other than try to survive it. I watched Detroit run wild and I have nightmares thinking about what an AFCCG vs KC or a Super Bowl vs LA would look like, if they even got that far.

    But back to the binary thing: can’t the Pats just be “OK, but disappointing by recent standards?” Teams go up and down all the time. As long as Brady can play well and have a decent cast around him, and as long as Belichick is at the helm, I’d never count them out. ‘18 just kind of feels like it’s that Christmas where your dad got laid off earlier that year, so he’ll get you a few new Atari games to fill out the floor under the tree and your stocking, but the new Nintendo console will have to wait until next Christmas.

  40. Kraft is exactly right. Most of these reports come out of that alphabet network and the mainstream media. The same alphabet network and mainstream media that went bezerk over Framegate. You know, ESPN. For those who keep parroting “cheaters,” and crap, child please. There’s the old saying, “It’s never about what it’s really about.” What team in the NFL doesn’t have some sort of “scandal” attached to it?” It’s because the media doesn’t target them. The underlying issue is exactly what Kraft said: Jealousy of the Patriots’success.

  41. flviking says:
    September 29, 2018 at 10:43 am
    johnodocks says:
    September 29, 2018 at 9:41 am

    Dude, the other team was Detroit, you know the lions that have one playoff win in the last 100 years.
    ………………………………………………………………………………

    And yet, those same Lions have been actual champions of the NFL. Ironic that this story is about jealousy and envy, as you seem to constantly display those traits when it comes to other teams that have something your Minnesota team has never had and most likely never will.

  42. 2010:
    Bill Cowher: “You know, let me just say this: To answer your question, no, I don’t think so (it’s not an advantage for one team over another).
    I just know as a head coach, you are always looking for a competitive edge. We had people out there trying to look at signals. We had guys go to games. They would tape the signal caller and also write it down. They would take it back and match up the signals with the game film and certain defenses with certain plays that were being called, particularly the defenses being called, to see if we could come up with some kind of an alert for a signal. So, what they did with videotaping the signal caller, people do it with the people in the stands!!
    These people sitting there in the stands, looking at the signal, writing it down and matching up the 1st and 10 signal. Ok? Then you go back again and the 2nd and 10 and here’s the signal. You do that for a whole game.
    You then go back and match up the defenses with the signal. And you can come up with what the signal was.
    So, you don;’t need a video tape with what they were talking about doing. And people were doing it. WE were doing that. Everybody does that. You’re TRYING to gain a competitive edge. There is nothing wrong with that.
    That’s why baseball players go through the mirage of signals. They’ve got all these different codes. That’s part of the competitive spirit of the game. I think it’s totally overblown. I think if you get caught (signals compromised), then do what we did and go to wristbands, you are worried about it. We started putting defenses on wristbands. Then you find a way to not get caught (signals compromised). When your good at something and people try steal from ya, I think it’s flattering.”

  43. All the tension stories started with the Seth Wickersham fairy tale. Wickersham is a hack who upon recognizing a willing audience, takes current events and weaves them together with a fairy tale that he knows will sell citing his usual array of mysterious unnamed sources lurking somewhere in the shadows. Since the fairy tale has elements of truth (the current events) the willing audience sucks it in like guppies and it takes on a life of its own spawning a whole generation of new stories using his fairy tale as the source and then eventually each others as the source. Wickersham’s fairy tale started all the speculation and reading between the lines this offseason. Most, if not all of his fairy tale has been refuted or contradicted by all the actual real named people involved. Kraft is correct, that is the price of being successful.
    Wickersham did the same thing with spygate where he collected all the rumors and inuendo he could get his hands on targeting those who couldnt accept the Patriots winning 3 out of 4 superbowls at the time (the willing audience – there had to be cheating!) and presented them as fact citing mysterious unnamed sources lurking in the shadows while unimaginably never mentioning the actual nfl that was (supposedly) broken. Wickersham avoided mentioning the actual NFL rules for a reason, it would have diminished his story and put all the rumors in the proper context. Once again, a Wickersham fairy tale spawned a whole generation of follow on stories from the media looking to write about breaking news.
    The NFL has repeatedly stated, even up to the present, that the Patriots were fined during the spygate game for filming the sidelines. That is it. They have cited the 2006 NFL’s Ray Anderson memo as a source which misquoted the actual NFL rule (pages A105-A106 of the league’s Policy Manual for Member Clubs Volume II: Game Operations 2007 edition). Per NFL bylaws, the NFL cannot change the rules via a memo. The undeniable fact is that there was no rule then and is no rule now against filming the sidelines. The only actual infraction of the rules by the Patriots the NFL could claim would be the location of the camera and even that is arguable given the ambiguity in the wording of the actual rules. Is there any question on why the NFL did not state the actual infraction? Soygate would be nothing if they had. To add context, the NFL required each team to film each game from multiple angles and send the film to each of their next 3 opponents. Compare that reality to the world of conspiracy theories that are now widely believed having originated out of Wickersham’s previous spygate story and you can understand the motivation for Wickersham to weave his fairy tales when he recognizes a willing audience.
    It’s time to stop looking for excuses. The year before the Patriots won their first superbowl (2001) they were 5-11. Prior to that they were mediocre at best. At the time of spygate, many all over the league were incredulous that the lowly Patriots could win 3 out of 4 superbowls. If ever there was a willing audience for a Wickersham fairy tale it was then. There had to be cheating! After appearing in 8 of the last 17 during the era of free agency (think about that), it is time to stop looking for excuses and just give the Patriots their due. I believe the majority of people are willing to appreciate what the Patriots have achieved through hard work and discipline but success does come with a price. As a Patriots fan I know and willingly accept there will be those who let jealousy and envy make them a willing audience for conspiracy theories but it is a price worth paying.

  44. Lol…. 1-2 & Patriots world is crumbing….. nice story line anyway for those that need some hope…..
    FACT IS: Pats have B.B. & Brady….. Edelman is coming back & Josh Gordon will soon be on the field….. Pats have been dealing with early season injuries but that’s life…. Sony was out all preseason & it will take a bit for him to get up to speed….
    The D has a new coordinator & it will take a bit for him to get the machine fine tuned….. it’s still so early in the season & what happens in September for the most part is truly irrelevant…..all I am really worried about this stage is the onslaught of the injury bug…..I sure hope it leaves the area PRONTO!!!!
    Go Pats!!!!!

  45. TruthfulDolphinsFanNotWearingBlinders says:
    September 29, 2018 at 9:22 am
    It’s the non stop cheating over the years that makes them so depised.

    You mean like Diaper Don Shula…ordering the tarp removed from the Orange Bowl Field during a tropical storm to slow down the Jets?

  46. Yes Sir Mr. Kraft. We know they hate us cuz they AINT US!!
    20 years of Total League dominance!! Size up Gordon’s ring finger as we BLITZ FOR SIX,!!!! The Greatest QB and Coach in the history of the NFL!!! Thank you sir for all the memories with 5 LOMBARDI’S.!!!

  47. Getting Flowers and Chung back to go along with Josh Allen is huge for the Pats. Problem is they have lost 3 out of the last 4 games they have played which is significant. Even more significant is the Dolphins can’t seem to win on TB12 home court. Pats favored by 7…We’ll see soon enough.

  48. tylawpick6 said:”

    Fans of other teams are just jealous that we have figured out how to cheat and get away with. Kraft is a genius who was able to make Goodell his puupet.”

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    When fans play the “we” card, it is incredibly annoying. All you are doing is rooting for laundry. If you had any “real” role with the team, you wouldn’t be wasting time trolling in the comment section.

    When Belichick retires and the team starts heading south, we will see how many Patriots’ fans stick around, and how many look for the next bandwagon to jump on.

  49. He might be right, he might be wrong, but to dismiss any criticism of yourself or your platform as mere “jealousy” is an immature way of dealing with opposing viewpoints.

  50. patriotwayrules says:
    September 29, 2018 at 5:03 pm
    Yes Sir Mr. Kraft. We know they hate us cuz they AINT US!!
    20 years of Total League dominance!! Size up Gordon’s ring finger as we BLITZ FOR SIX,!!!! The Greatest QB and Coach in the history of the NFL!!! Thank you sir for all the memories with 5 LOMBARDI’S.!

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    No one hates or is jealous of the pats, it’s just nobody can stand all their 12 year old fans. BTW you need more than Gordon to get #6. Did you see the Rams Thursday night?

  51. lambeauandlombardi says:
    September 29, 2018 at 1:58 pm
    flviking says:
    September 29, 2018 at 10:43 am
    johnodocks says:
    September 29, 2018 at 9:41 am

    Dude, the other team was Detroit, you know the lions that have one playoff win in the last 100 years.
    ………………………………………………………………………………

    And yet, those same Lions have been actual champions of the NFL. Ironic that this story is about jealousy and envy, as you seem to constantly display those traits when it comes to other teams that have something your Minnesota team has never had and most likely never will

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    Sorry could care less about the leather helmet days, I wasn’t there. I don’t jump up and down because the Mighty Minnesota Golden Gophers have won 7 National championships and the Wisconsin Badgers have won zero, who cares about the leather helmet championships? Packer fans. I guess in gb that’s all you have except for new 5 cheese nacho platter at Applebee’s

  52. beachsidejames says:
    September 29, 2018 at 5:23 pm

    Getting Flowers and Chung back to go along with Josh Allen is huge for the Pats.
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    Assuming NE even wanted him, why would the Bills trade Allen, let alone to another team in their division?

  53. One thing I like about Robert Kraft is he’s not afraid to talk after he’s had a couple pops. You get the good unfiltered quotes. Throw sand in everyone’s face just a little. What the heck, why not. I wish more owners would do interviews after they’ve had a couple.

  54. Stupid people always come in to comment on Patriots stories. Whatever. HERE is what will happen tomorrow. Patriots beat the Dolphins. O and D lines look better, defense gets gashed some but looks more solid, Gordon will be on the field for a number of plays and do pretty well. Lost in all the stupid talk here is simple fact, the Patriots are still good. Missing a few pieces up against one of the 3 best teams in the AFC, and then faced a guy who was very familiar with them. If they kept Dola they probably would have beaten either team, but you can’t keep everybody. Things will turn out just like they have year after year because the team has an amazing level of talent. And coaching. It’s that simple.

  55. No one hates or is jealous of the pats, it’s just nobody can stand all their 12 year old fans. BTW you need more than Gordon to get #6. Did you see the Rams Thursday night?

    5 4 Rate Thi

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    one of the funniest things i have ever read

    yes, no one hates or is jealous of the pats yet the jets owner hired goodell and all this funny business from 345 park ave is all one big coincidence.you sure are intelligent little bandwagon la fan.

    did we see the rams get torched and in sept? yes, we did

  56. Love that the Pats are coming apart at the seams. Won’t be long before one of them spills on all the other ways he Patriots are cheating that we haven’t known about.

    Someone’s going to spill. Can’t wait.

  57. zombiepatriot says:
    September 29, 2018 at 10:35 am
    vaphinfan says:
    September 29, 2018 at 9:13 am
    nyneal says:
    September 29, 2018 at 8:47 am
    The Packers have won more championships than any NFL team and there are people who hate them for that reason alone.
    ____
    Actually its the Steelers

    ————————–

    The NFL existed before the Super Bowl era. You can read about it in books and there is the odd documentary you can watch as well. It will tell you all about the dominant Packers teams as well as some great Bears, Browns and then some odd stories involving the Lions, Eagles, Steelers and even the Steagles!

    —————

    Until the AFL and NFL merged there was no true NATIONAL football league. And since the days when winning a championship meant you had won over ALL of the teams it’s the Steelers that have won the most. Green Bay fans sound funny trying to come up with their rationalizations to try and count old history regional stuff the same as a true national championship.

  58. The Packers have won more championships than any NFL team and there are people who hate them for that reason alone.
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    Actually its the Steelers
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    13 > 6.. but hey, they’re halfway there!

    .. course, I don’t really blame Steelers fans for wanting to forget their first 39 years of existence, with their 1, singular, Playoff trip.

    Pretty much the worst run in NFL history. Probably sports history, period.

  59. Sorry could care less about the leather helmet days, I wasn’t there. I don’t jump up and down because the Mighty Minnesota Golden Gophers have won 7 National championships and the Wisconsin Badgers have won zero, who cares about the leather helmet championships? Packer fans. I guess in gb that’s all you have except for new 5 cheese nacho platter at Applebee’s
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    Fair enough.

    But.. what is the difference between a Championship in 1962.. which is beyond any reasonable debate Lombari’s best team.. and any Super Bowl winner 1966-1969?

    The difference was 1 extra game. Despite the Merger agreement, Inter-League games didn’t begin until 1970.

    So, fine, I’ll disregard Lambeau’s teams and their 6 Titles. But why should I have to toss out 3 of Lombari’s Championships? Beacuse they didn’t play the AFC in a Super Bowl? Teams he would have throttled, as he did the Raiders and Chiefs?

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