Tom Brady, Drew Brees could both join the 500-touchdown club this week

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Only two players in NFL history have thrown for 500 touchdown passes. By Monday, there may be four players in NFL history who have thrown for 500 touchdown passes.

Tom Brady and Drew Brees are both poised to join the 500-touchdown club, which currently consists of Peyton Manning, who retired with an NFL-record 539 touchdown passes, and Brett Favre, who threw 508 touchdown passes.

Brady, who has 497 career touchdown passes, plays on Thursday night against the Colts. Brees, who has 496 career touchdown passes, plays on Monday night against Washington. So a three-touchdown game for Brady and a four-touchdown game for Brees will put both of them at 500 career touchdowns.

Both Brady and Brees seem likely to break Manning’s record, probably some time early in the 2019 season.

106 responses to “Tom Brady, Drew Brees could both join the 500-touchdown club this week

  1. Should be an asterisk next to it. I’m sorry but these records cannot possibly hold the same weight with the rule changes that have taken place over the past 10 years. Could you imagine what records there would be if guys like Marino, Elway, Farve, and Foutz played under these rules? Receivers were mugged down the field and QBs were not coddled like babies back then.

  2. Awesome. Just don’t get too carried away with stats when judging QB’s from previous era’s. TV money is everything nowadays, so the game has been changed dramatically for the benefit of the TV audience. I think Brees and Brady are great QB’s and would have been outstanding in any era. But the numbers are on steroids. Offensive linemen used to have to block. Now they allow holding. That’s only part of it.

  3. Selfishly i want Brady to get the 500 TD before Brees lol. I would not Hate to see Brees get it though. He seems like a class act as well. I think Brady gets it, unless it is the Sony N white Show on Thursday.

  4. I think saying they will both break Manning record by early next yr is a stretch. Right now that’s 43 and 44 touchdowns to break Manning record. Mid season next year if they both return seems more likely.

  5. Honestly PEDton* Manning’s record should not count because of cheating. The illegal HGH, with a source connected to BALCO, the biggest doping scandal (other than Ben Johnson) in sports history was not for his wife, we all know that. If he had played it straight he would have retired after the 2010 season with his legacy completely intact as one of the all time greatest. Unfortunately he chose to cheat and anything that happened after that is tainted.

    Favre is the current record holder as far as I’m concerned.

  6. It’s hard to get too excited about statistical records anyway, as defenses are not allowed to breathe on QBs anymore, and we’ll be seeing 6,000 yard passers in the league in the not too distant future. Look at all th 400 yard passers this past weekend, it’s getting out of hand.

    Because stats have been skewed this way, we must turn our attention to wins and rings and we all know who is the gold standard for that. 🙂

  7. It should also be noted that Tom Brady has 71 postseason TD passes, while Peyton had 40.

    Thus if you look at the total body of work, regular season plus postseason, Brady trails Manning not by 42 touchdowns but by only 11. Thus TB should pass PM this year.

    For completeness,
    Favre had 44 postseason TDs and 508 regular season,
    Brees has 29 postseason TDs and 496 regular season

    and thus regular season + postseason, combined, standings look like this:

    Manning 579
    Brady 568
    Favre 552
    Brees 525

  8. With Edelman back Thursday night and Josh Gordon working into the mix, I expect Brady to break Manning’s record This Thursday night against the Colts this week. ☺

  9. Ray says:
    So what. Postseason is just different. NE has had better teams.

    ——
    Famously, for the decade of the 2000s, the Colts had the better regular season record than the Patriots (barely). I’d say that they had darn good teams. NE just preformed a whole lot better in the postseason. One reason? Better postseason QB play.

  10. charliecharger says:
    October 2, 2018 at 5:15 pm
    Awesome. Just don’t get too carried away with stats when judging QB’s from previous era’s. TV money is everything nowadays, so the game has been changed dramatically for the benefit of the TV audience. I think Brees and Brady are great QB’s and would have been outstanding in any era. But the numbers are on steroids. Offensive linemen used to have to block. Now they allow holding. That’s only part of it.
    ——
    I think there should be a stat that normalizes your performance as an NFL quarterback against your peers. That would be much more useful to analyze.

    Kind of like baseball’s sabermetric ERA+ and OPS+ where 100 represents league average.

  11. Manning, Brees, Brady, Farve have all been incredible talents we are all lucky to have been able to watch in our lifetimes. The haters bagging on any of them here are just miserable wretches with no appreciation for the sport of football.

  12. Brees’ numbers were helped simply by getting out of San Diego early enough in his career.
    =====

    Drew Brees, Saints – 59,392 yards, 416 tds, 99.9 rating.. 122 wins (including Playoffs)

    His replacement;

    Phillip Rivers – 51,356 yards, 352 tds, 95.3 rating.. 112 wins (including Playoffs)

    .. perhaps Brees gets that San Diego team over the top at some point from 2006-2009 as he did with the Saints.

  13. Actuallly TB12 only needs 13 TD’s to pass Manning in total TD’s, regular season and playoffs

  14. truthprofessor says:
    October 2, 2018 at 5:32 pm
    Favre and Brady are impressive in that neither played 50% of their games indoors on turf for most of their careers.

    —–

    Well, Brady played 18 years or whatever against the great Jets, Dolphins and Bills teams. So,there’s that. 6 times per year.

  15. “So what. Postseason is just different.”

    You’re right. Its different because every opponent is a quality opponent and defenses are generally better than most of those faced in the regular season.

    Looking at it that way postseason TDs should get a multiplier applied

  16. rooneyruleblues says:
    October 2, 2018 at 5:07 pm
    Should be an asterisk next to it. I’m sorry but these records cannot possibly hold the same weight with the rule changes that have taken place over the past 10 years. Could you imagine what records there would be if guys like Marino, Elway, Farve, and Foutz played under these rules? Receivers were mugged down the field and QBs were not coddled like babies back then.

    23 39 Rate This

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    I agree except Fouts, Favre and Elway threw so many ints, please don’t pretend they are in Brady’s class.

    That said, the 1984 Marino season remains the pinnacle. I was a kid and saw it from some cold metal bleachers in Foxborough.

    But, none of those qbs you mention had the football iq of Brady. Not even close.

  17. Dan Marino -best QB I’ve ever seen. I can’t even imagine what he’d have with the current rules.

    -NE fan.

  18. garby95 says:
    October 2, 2018 at 6:12 pm
    truthprofessor says:
    October 2, 2018 at 5:32 pm
    Favre and Brady are impressive in that neither played 50% of their games indoors on turf for most of their careers.

    —–

    Well, Brady played 18 years or whatever against the great Jets, Dolphins and Bills teams. So,there’s that. 6 times per year.

    2 2 Rate This

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    Gomer
    Manning moved into the Afc south expansion division in 2002, so what is your point here?

    BB and Brady are so great, it only appears the teams in the afce are as bad as you try to spin.

  19. Appropriate to have two great clutch players and class individuals at the top whichever one ends up with more tds, probably Brees, he’s younger. Brady is locked in forever as the GOAT with the records and performances that count most, he can afford to have the Great Drew Brees have some HOF glory too. Mannings have the sleaze factor attached to them and Peyton Manning choked in the big moments.

  20. When Art Monk retired after the 1995 season he held the record for most career receptions with 980. It is not inconceivable that Michael Thomas may have 200 receptions this year. The game has changed way too much for these records to mean all that much.

  21. Brady would be nothing without BB. Any QB spending more than a decade in his system could throw 500 TDs, he makes it too easy

  22. tylawspick6 says:
    October 2, 2018 at 7:00 pm
    Brady would be nothing without BB. Any QB spending more than a decade in his system could throw 500 TDs, he makes it too easy
    ——
    There is no such thing as “his system”, the Patriots have had many offensive systems run by several OCs and Brady has excelled in all of them. 🙂

    As for Brady without BB – who knows. I happen to think he’d be great no matter where he was.

  23. tylawspick6 says: October 2, 2018 at 7:00 pm
    “Brady would be nothing without BB. Any QB spending more than a decade in his system could throw 500 TDs, he makes it too easy”

    ==================================

    This is just dumb. Can BB even throw a spiral?

  24. I’ve skimmed through these comments and my conclusion remains the same.

    Brady is a cheater and liar so his records are tarnished.

    Also Brady has never played against or beaten a Belicheat coached team

  25. directdriver says:
    October 2, 2018 at 7:26 pm
    tylawspick6 says: October 2, 2018 at 7:00 pm
    “Brady would be nothing without BB. Any QB spending more than a decade in his system could throw 500 TDs, he makes it too easy”

    ==================================

    This is just dumb. Can BB even throw a spiral?
    ———
    No he can’t but to be fair he certainly can coach a team to 11-5 with Matt Cassel and 3-1 with Jacoby Brissett and Jimmy Garoppolo getting snaps at QB. 🙂

    The fact the team didn’t fall apart in either case is all on Belichick. Look what happened to the Colts when they lost PEDton Manning.

  26. Thetruthspeaks says:
    October 2, 2018 at 7:36 pm
    I’ve skimmed through these comments and my conclusion remains the same.

    Brady is a cheater and liar so his records are tarnished.

    Also Brady has never played against or beaten a Belicheat coached team

    —————

    Keep fighting the good fight little guy!

  27. Thetruthspeaks says:
    October 2, 2018 at 8:22 pm
    Look what happened to the Colts and Broncos after Peyton

    Peyton is the true GOAT.

    Peyton has never been suspended for cheating
    ——-
    PEDton is a cheat. I do not acknowledge any of his accomplishments* after 2010 as they were gained by cheating with illegal HGH which he pretended were for his wife. Anyone with a brain knows better than that.

    You might support cheating but I don’t.

    Truth hurts huh? 🙂

  28. garby95 says:
    October 2, 2018 at 6:12 pm
    truthprofessor says:
    October 2, 2018 at 5:32 pm
    Favre and Brady are impressive in that neither played 50% of their games indoors on turf for most of their careers.

    —–

    Well, Brady played 18 years or whatever against the great Jets, Dolphins and Bills teams. So,there’s that. 6 times per year.

    ——————-
    When your own team loses to the Jets, Bills, and/or Dolphins you have no business trying to say they are a free ride for someone else.

  29. Thetruthspeaks says:
    October 2, 2018 at 8:22 pm
    Look what happened to the Colts and Broncos after Peyton

    Peyton is the true GOAT.

    Peyton has never been suspended for cheating

    ———————-
    Neither has Brees, Brady, or Farve.

  30. Honestly PEDton* Manning’s record should not count because of cheating. The illegal HGH, with a source connected to BALCO, the biggest doping scandal (other than Ben Johnson) in sports history was not for his wife, we all know that. If he had played it straight he would have retired after the 2010 season with his legacy completely intact as one of the all time greatest. Unfortunately he chose to cheat and anything that happened after that is tainted.

    Favre is the current record holder as far as I’m concerned.

    ———————————————————————-

    HGH suspension is 4 games, and if Manning took HGH he should have been suspended 4 games only. Stop the whining

  31. Thetruthspeaks
    Oct 2, 2018, 7:36 PM EDT
    I’ve skimmed through these comments and my conclusion remains the same.

    Brady is a cheater and liar so his records are tarnished.

    Also Brady has never played against or beaten a Belicheat coached team

    So I’m just curious, what would you say to all the current and former players that have unanimously agreed that Brady is the GOAT? Are you gonna tell them that they don’t know what their talking about? I would love to hear that conversation

  32. GoodellMustGo says:
    October 2, 2018 at 7:52 pm

    directdriver says:
    October 2, 2018 at 7:26 pm
    tylawspick6 says: October 2, 2018 at 7:00 pm
    “Brady would be nothing without BB. Any QB spending more than a decade in his system could throw 500 TDs, he makes it too easy”

    ==================================

    This is just dumb. Can BB even throw a spiral?
    ———
    No he can’t but to be fair he certainly can coach a team to 11-5 with Matt Cassel and 3-1 with Jacoby Brissett and Jimmy Garoppolo getting snaps at QB. 🙂

    The fact the team didn’t fall apart in either case is all on Belichick. Look what happened to the Colts when they lost PEDton Manning.

    13

    2

    ——————

    Yep.

  33. Peyton had waaaaaaay too
    many one and dones to ever be considered GOAT.

    GOAT’s win. A lot.

    Brady stands alone in that regard.

  34. If Goodell really had a conspiracy against the Patsies he would have made sure they didn’t win the Super Bowls against the Falcons and Seahawks.

    Brady is a cheater and liar 🤥

  35. TOM BRADY…..THE G.O.A.T…..NUFF SAID!!!
    & we get to watch him FURTHER DESROY the hopes & aspersions of so many fans of other teams FOR PROBABLY 4 MORE YEARS….. just read the comments above….lt will put a WICKED HUGE SMILE on your face!!!!! AWESOME!!!
    Go Pats!!!
    Cudos to Drew, he’s a stud QB too!!!

  36. HGH suspension is 4 games, and if Manning took HGH he should have been suspended 4 games only. Stop the whining
    ——
    He would have never been able to return to football without using it.

  37. ikeclanton says:
    October 2, 2018 at 9:52 pm
    Peyton had waaaaaaay too
    many one and dones to ever be considered GOAT.

    GOAT’s win. A lot.

    Brady stands alone in that regard.


    Cheating DQs PEDton from the conversation. But even if he didn’t, you would be correct. Plus an absolute beatdown in the Super Bowl after having the best offender in league history.

  38. Thetruthspeaks says:
    October 2, 2018 at 10:13 pm
    If Goodell really had a conspiracy against the Patsies he would have made sure they didn’t win the Super Bowls against the Falcons and Seahawks.

    Brady is a cheater and liar 🤥
    ——
    Don’t blame us or other teams or players for PEDton* cheating. We didn’t make him cheat, that’s all on him.

    I don’t take the accomplishments of a cheater seriously. You getting mad boy? 🙂

  39. Cheating DQs PEDton from the conversation. But even if he didn’t, you would be correct. Plus an absolute beatdown in the Super Bowl after having the best offender in league history
    ——
    Offense not offender

  40. I’m gonna make this simple for all you Pats fans to understand, Brady’s record in Superbowls is 0 and 0. I just looked it up on NFL.com and every other site. The Patriots have won 5 Superbowls because the greatest defensive mind to ever coach at the NFL level is the headcoach. Brady is great but this is the ultimate team sport. If Brady were on any other team they wouldn’t have 5 Superbowls. And don’t give me his bad defensive YARDAGE stats of the last few years, it’s about points and Belichick always figures out a way to keep teams out of the endzone.

  41. oswizard says:

    October 2, 2018 at 6:54 pm

    When Art Monk retired after the 1995 season he held the record for most career receptions with 980. It is not inconceivable that Michael Thomas may have 200 receptions this year. The game has changed way too much for these records to mean all that much.

    ———
    Actually Oswizard it’s completely inconceivable and unrealistic to think Michael Thomas has a shot at 200 receptions. A simple look at the numbers show to hit 200 Michael Thomas would have to average over 13 receptions a game the rest of the year and so far in 4 games he’s only recorded 13 receptions or more once. So you beleieve its realistic for him to average something ocer 12 games hes only done a single time? Even with his amazing start he is on pace for only 168 receptions which is only 25 receptions more than Marvin Harrison’s NFL record and it’s much more realistic that by midseason Thomas will barely be on pace to break the records. If your going to use stats to support a narrative, try to use actual stats.

  42. I checked with the Deflator and he says Brady cheated.

    Now you mad bro.

    I saw Brady tell an innocent camera guy to eff off last year. Belicheat ignored kids this year that wanted to high 5 him. But keep supporting these low character people. You people must have low self worth to keep idolizing and making excuses for the Patsies.

  43. aldonsmith4mvp says:
    October 2, 2018 at 11:20 pm

    Notable. Peyton retired at the age of 38. All the others into their 40’s.
    —————————–
    Peyton was a starter for 17 seasons- playing 100% on offensive minded teams
    Brady has been a starter for 16 seasons- playing only 10 seasons on offensive minded teams

  44. takeyourpunishmentandquitwhininglikeababy says:
    October 2, 2018 at 8:54 pm
    Is that 500 TDs with properly inflated balls?
    =
    Same balls as everyone else uses, temperature related PSI notwithstanding. Tell us why other teams have tampered with balls in games and it was NBD? You know why.

  45. New England fans are bad at science and math. No wonder they think 2-2 is a winning record!

  46. Notable. Peyton missed an entire season due to 4 neck surgeries.
    ————
    Notable: PEDton cheated to get back on the field after his surgeries.

  47. Thetruthspeaks says:
    October 3, 2018 at 6:29 am
    I checked with the Deflator and he says Brady cheated.
    Now you mad bro.
    I saw Brady tell an innocent camera guy to eff off last year. Belicheat ignored kids this year that wanted to high 5 him. But keep supporting these low character people. You people must have low self worth to keep idolizing and making excuses for the Patsies.

    ——
    Not mad at all. Much more amused that you justify and accept cheating by your binky PEDton.

    I bet that makes you frustrated doesn’t it boy? 🙂

  48. Cudos to Drew, he’s a stud QB too!!!

    —–
    Similar to Brady, Brees was the victim (indirectly) of a league that completely fabricated and embellished a scandal and he ended up losing his head coach for the season.

    Compare the treatment of these two players to a cheat like PEDton. PEDton was always a favorite son in the league’s eyes. Not only did the NFL dismiss his cheating, in fact there was a leak of press release BEFORE Super Bowl 50 congratulating him on his Super Bowl MVP. LOL. He sucked in the Super Bowl just like he did most of the season once his cheating stopped, and they had to give it to Von Miller.

    That’s ok I don’t have to take his accomplishments* after 2010 seriously and I don’t. 🙂

  49. Took a ride to THE PATRIOT HALL. Saw 5 ultra shiny Lombardi trophies with bright lights engulfing them. What a sight to behold. Wanted to make sure they weren’t tarnished. Hahahahahaha

  50. TheWizard says:
    October 3, 2018 at 7:05 am
    Dan Marino -best QB I’ve ever seen
    Too bad he got hung with Don Shula.

    ——–

    Right, the winningest coach of all time.

  51. Note: Peyton played in a soft division & 1/2 his games in a climate controlled dome
    =====

    Divisional opponents win%

    2002 AFCE .541 | AFCS .437
    2003 AFCE .458 | AFCS .458
    2004 AFCE .479 | AFCS .437
    2005 AFCE .375 | AFCS .375
    2006 AFCE .479 | AFCS .458
    2007 AFCE .250 | AFCS .604
    2008 AFCE .562 | AFCS .520
    2009 AFCE .458 | AFCS .500
    2010 AFCE .458 | AFCS .416

    Playoff trips;
    AFC East – 4
    AFC South -6

    Yeah.. the AFC East was a real juggernaut…

  52. The way the game has changed, some new upstart QB like Mahomes could smash the statistics. The rules protecting receivers and QBs changed during Brady and Manning’s careers so their status were better and better as the years went on. It’s obviously not stopping.

    A few records we might not see so easily smashed are Brady’s win total and playoff records. That will be really hard to do.

  53. bullcharger says:
    October 3, 2018 at 9:23 am
    TheWizard says:
    October 3, 2018 at 7:05 am
    Dan Marino -best QB I’ve ever seen
    Too bad he got hung with Don Shula.

    ——–

    Right, the winningest coach of all time.

    ———

    Not when it comes to SBs

  54. A few records we might not see so easily smashed are Brady’s win total and playoff records. That will be really hard to do.
    =====

    Heard the same thing about Montana.

    And has anyone really topped Starr?? 9-1, 5 Championships, highest rated post-season passer ever..

  55. aarons444 says:
    October 3, 2018 at 9:50 am
    A few records we might not see so easily smashed are Brady’s win total and playoff records. That will be really hard to do.
    =====
    Heard the same thing about Montana.
    And has anyone really topped Starr?? 9-1, 5 Championships, highest rated post-season passer ever..
    ———
    Montana’s wins were before the salary cap and rules to help create parity.

    Most of Starr’s career was before the merger in a league half the size it is now with just 2 playoff wins necessary to win a championship, so realistically it’s apples and oranges to compare his championships to others outside of his 2 Super Bowl rings.

  56. bullcharger says:
    October 3, 2018 at 9:41 am
    The way the game has changed, some new upstart QB like Mahomes could smash the statistics. The rules protecting receivers and QBs changed during Brady and Manning’s careers so their status were better and better as the years went on. It’s obviously not stopping.
    A few records we might not see so easily smashed are Brady’s win total and playoff records. That will be really hard to do.

    ——
    Oh yeah I expect 6,000 passing yards for the season to be eclipsed within 5 years. 7,000 not long after that. And if we go to 18 games 8,000 yards will be doable. Like I said above I would love to see a stat like they have in baseball to compare yourself against your peers in the same era playing under the same rules that favor offense.

  57. aarons444 says:
    October 3, 2018 at 9:26 am
    Note: Peyton played in a soft division & 1/2 his games in a climate controlled dome
    =====
    Divisional opponents win%
    2002 AFCE .541 | AFCS .437
    2003 AFCE .458 | AFCS .458
    2004 AFCE .479 | AFCS .437
    2005 AFCE .375 | AFCS .375
    2006 AFCE .479 | AFCS .458
    2007 AFCE .250 | AFCS .604
    2008 AFCE .562 | AFCS .520
    2009 AFCE .458 | AFCS .500
    2010 AFCE .458 | AFCS .416
    Playoff trips;
    AFC East – 4
    AFC South -6
    Yeah.. the AFC East was a real juggernaut…

    ——————
    Nobody is saying that but the AFC South was very soft. Also in that time frame the AFC East has made the conference championship game 6 times, with 3 one and dones by the division champion. The AFC South had 4, with the same number of one and dones by their division champion.

    Currently for the AFC East it’s 9 straight appearances in the conference championship game, no other division comes close to that.

    You’d think that if the AFC East was as weak as people say it is, the division champion would be exposed and eliminated very quickly in the playoffs. Not the case. They actually make and sometimes win Super Bowls too. 🙂

  58. 2007 AFCE .250 | AFCS .604
    —————————–
    I actually like to look back at record vs playoff teams to see how good you really are. Forget their division. The 2007 Patriots ended up 7-1 against teams that made the playoffs. I know the “1” was the biggest one but still… that’s very impressive and tells you they are far from a product of their division being .250.

    The 2008 Pats, who many point at an 11-5 record, were just 1-4 against the AFC playoff field, and were blown out 3 times, twice at home. Clearly that is much more of an indicator that they had taken a big step back and we all know why that was the case.

  59. patriotwayrules says:
    October 3, 2018 at 9:23 am
    Took a ride to THE PATRIOT HALL. Saw 5 ultra shiny Lombardi trophies with bright lights engulfing them. What a sight to behold. Wanted to make sure they weren’t tarnished. Hahahahahaha

    ///——

    You should get some real glasses and take off the rose colored glasses. Believe me they’re tarnished.

  60. GoodellMustGo says:
    October 3, 2018 at 9:05 am
    Thetruthspeaks says:
    October 3, 2018 at 6:29 am
    I checked with the Deflator and he says Brady cheated.
    Now you mad bro.
    I saw Brady tell an innocent camera guy to eff off last year. Belicheat ignored kids this year that wanted to high 5 him. But keep supporting these low character people. You people must have low self worth to keep idolizing and making excuses for the Patsies.

    ——
    Not mad at all. Much more amused that you justify and accept cheating by your binky PEDton.

    I bet that makes you frustrated doesn’t it boy?

    ——-////

    No I’m not frustrated at all. And I don’t have to justify or accept Peyton’s cheating cause he never was proven to be a cheater or suspended like Brady boy. You guys sound just like Trump. No wonder your owner and Tammy support Trump.

  61. Currently for the AFC East it’s 9 straight appearances in the conference championship game, no other division comes close to that.
    =====

    The Patriots have been great, yes.

    You seem to have confused that with the AFC East.

  62. I checked Belicheat and Bradys Wikipedia page and it references Spygate and Deflategate., respectively. I’m sure you think Wikipedia was in on the conspiracy too.

  63. You’d think that if the AFC East was as weak as people say it is, the division champion would be exposed and eliminated very quickly in the playoffs.
    =====

    The poster I responded to claimed Manning padded his stats on AFC South creampuffs.

    If that true, the same can be said of Brady, as proven above.

  64. aarons444 says:
    October 3, 2018 at 11:03 am
    Currently for the AFC East it’s 9 straight appearances in the conference championship game, no other division comes close to that.
    =====
    The Patriots have been great, yes.
    You seem to have confused that with the AFC East.
    —————-
    I also counted the Jets twice as part of the streak, since they were.

    And you agree the Patriots are this good… so does their division competition matter? 🙂

  65. Thetruthspeaks says:
    October 3, 2018 at 11:06 am
    I checked Belicheat and Bradys Wikipedia page and it references Spygate and Deflategate., respectively. I’m sure you think Wikipedia was in on the conspiracy too.
    ————
    I checked “Belicheat” and there was no such entry in Wikipedia.

    Oh SNAP. U got powned again. Tee hee 🙂 You must be so mad right now. 🙂

  66. Thetruthspeaks says:
    October 3, 2018 at 11:03 am
    GoodellMustGo says:
    October 3, 2018 at 9:05 am
    Thetruthspeaks says:
    October 3, 2018 at 6:29 am
    I checked with the Deflator and he says Brady cheated.
    Now you mad bro.
    I saw Brady tell an innocent camera guy to eff off last year. Belicheat ignored kids this year that wanted to high 5 him. But keep supporting these low character people. You people must have low self worth to keep idolizing and making excuses for the Patsies.
    ——
    Not mad at all. Much more amused that you justify and accept cheating by your binky PEDton.
    I bet that makes you frustrated doesn’t it boy?
    ——-////
    No I’m not frustrated at all. And I don’t have to justify or accept Peyton’s cheating cause he never was proven to be a cheater or suspended like Brady boy. You guys sound just like Trump. No wonder your owner and Tammy support Trump.

    —–
    You’re entitled to keep justifying and making excuses for PEDton* cheating. Don’t ask for respect though cause that’s not coming. I don’t respect cheaters or cheating. 🙂

    Brady of course was suspended in the end because the league wanted to demonstrate that they could and nothing more. I didn’t say that, the league did.

    #UGotPownedAGAINBoy
    #StopMessingWithYourSuperiors
    #IOwnUAndAlwaysWill

  67. And you agree the Patriots are this good… so does their division competition matter?
    =====

    I’ve said many times the Patriots are the best team of this era.

    Bradys mastery of the East.. Mannings dominance of the South… apples to apples, as you said above.

  68. aarons444 says:
    October 3, 2018 at 11:09 am
    You’d think that if the AFC East was as weak as people say it is, the division champion would be exposed and eliminated very quickly in the playoffs.
    =====
    The poster I responded to claimed Manning padded his stats on AFC South creampuffs.
    If that true, the same can be said of Brady, as proven above.
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    Except nobody really talked up Brady’s stats as much as Manning. It was Manning that was the stat guy and the argument was that Manning was better because of his stats. People talked up Brady for both his wins and stats.

    It’s fair to say Manning piled up those stats on a weak AFC South for most of his career there, there were no really good teams or good defenses besides IND in that division once TEN fell back to the pack in the early 2000’s. They had the benefit of an expansion Texans team in that division too.

    Case in point: Manning and the Colts shattered all kinds of records in 2004… and then they managed to score 3 points once the faced a good defense in Foxboro in the playoffs.

  69. aarons444 says:
    October 3, 2018 at 11:24 am
    And you agree the Patriots are this good… so does their division competition matter?
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    I’ve said many times the Patriots are the best team of this era.
    Bradys mastery of the East.. Mannings dominance of the South… apples to apples, as you said above.
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    But still – it’s accurate to say Manning piled up his stats on a weak division. Nobody ever accused Brady of being a stat padder. Just that he won a lot.

    With that said I can admit that it was Brady and Belichick together that mastered the East, and it’s doubtful either would have done so without each other. On the Colts side, Dungy was a good coach, Caldwell not so much. I do think it’s interesting that the Colts started to slip in 2010 under coach Caldwell- a middling 10-6 record and a one and done to the Jets at home. Had Manning stayed healthy they could have very well missed the playoffs the following year. So perhaps Manning as a Colt was never the “real” coach that he was made out to be.

  70. If New England’s success under Belichick & Brady is built upon their dominance of a weak AFC East, why does NE have a better winning percentage against 5 other divisions than they do against the AFC East?

    Why is NE’s overall winning percentage under Belichick & Brady, inside vs. outside the division, virtually identical?

    Help this chemistry professor understand, please.

  71. Notable: If Brady played the game like Manning, rather than running it in on 1st and goal he would be passing the football.

  72. tom brady & peyton manning were only in the same division for exactly 2 games….the san diego chargers drafted both ladanian tomlinson & drew brees in the same draft (2001)

  73. But still – it’s accurate to say Manning piled up his stats on a weak division. Nobody ever accused Brady of being a stat padder.
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    Their divisions were equally ‘strong’..

    So if Manning did it, so has Brady.

  74. Manning and the Colts shattered all kinds of records in 2004… and then they managed to score 3 points once the faced a good defense in Foxboro in the playoffs.
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    I’d love to see Brady against Belichick and that 2003-2004 Patriot defense.

    My suspicion is, the result would be exactly the same.

  75. tylawspick6 says:

    October 2, 2018 at 7:00 pm

    Brady would be nothing without BB. Any QB spending more than a decade in his system could throw 500 TDs, he makes it too easy

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    Belichick is only 18-19 as Pats coach without Brady starting. And if just any QB could equal Brady’s performance, BB would have traded or let go of Brady looooooong ago for a cheaper option like he has so many other talented players. Some “system”.

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